Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 There may also be case to say that children and young people in particular don't like to singled out for their deficiencies and that may include being given positive consideration (special needs) just as much as dismissal. Don't kids desperately want to pass for normal? Even if they know they're not getting it they may not want to put up a fuss - the teachers may be accomodating but less it's likely that their peers ever will be. And it's hard work for them too and so they may prefer to cultivate non-engagement strategies such as daydreaming or simply bluffing it. Recently at a supermarket checkout, the cashier said something to me. Six or more attempts and I still didn't get it - she was irritated but more surprisingly I felt ashamed of who I was - as if I'd done her a disservice. That's not a regular experience but rather a long lost ghost popping back for a moment. I suddenly remembered being a kid again! Phil I am an elementary school teacher, and until it was my own son with the hearing problem, I don't think I truely understood what a hearing loss might do to a child in regard to his attentiveness and learning. I had a teacher ask me why my son doesn't let her know when he doesn't hear something. I had to tell her that because he has trouble hearing, he can't hear well enough to know that he missed something. I have to admit that this statement is common sense now, but I don't know that I would have realized the answer before my son's hearing loss. It is important that you have a conference early in the school year to discuss your child's hearing loss with the teacher(s)that will be working with your child. - Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Does your son wear a hearing aid(s)? My daughter had a massive c-toma removed at the age of 4 1/2. She started kindergarten with a hearing aid. Her school is very old and doesn't have central air. The racket from the fans, along with the normal classroom noise was making it even more difficult for her to hear. Hearing aids amplify all the noise as well. So I started "battling" with the school district to get her the hearing equipment for the classroom that she is entitled to. After six months, I was finally able to get her a top of the line FM/type system. The "speaker" sits on her desk and the teacher wears a microphone. My daughter can hear the teacher no matter where she is in the classroom AND this system doesn't amplify all the noise. She is now 10 1/2 and every year since has been a different adjustment with the hearing aid; looks, etc. BUT there are certain guidelines hearing impaired children have and teachers should be aware of and adhere to. Your child should be seated in the front of the classroom, it helps if your child as a "help" mate who can inform them of anything they think they might have missed the teacher saying, classmates should be made aware of the situation and above all, I've taught my daughter not to be afraid to tell people she is hearing impaired and ask them to repeat what they said if she didn't quite hear them. Her classmates know the must talk louder to hear, slower, talk face-to-face and/or to her good ear. It doesn't take a lot to help these children but awareness is a key. Caryn L. Gleixner Tabet DiVito & Rothstein LLC (312) 762-9473 This e-mail/internet message may contain material and/or information that is privileged, confidential and/or attorney work product and which is exempt from disclosure. It is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and delete all copies, and do not forward or use this information in any way. Thank you. -----Original Message-----From: kathrynaoconnell [mailto:kaoconnell@...]Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 6:51 PMcholesteatoma Subject: Hearing loss and teachersI am an elementary school teacher, and until it was my own son with the hearing problem, I don't think I truely understood what a hearing loss might do to a child in regard to his attentiveness and learning. I had a teacher ask me why my son doesn't let her know when he doesn't hear something. I had to tell her that because he has trouble hearing, he can't hear well enough to know that he missed something. I have to admit that this statement is common sense now, but I don't know that I would have realized the answer before my son's hearing loss. It is important that you have a conference early in the school year to discuss your child's hearing loss with the teacher(s)that will be working with your child. - Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 I couldn't agree more, Kathy. I met with my son's teacher shortly after school started to inform her of his hearing loss. I gave her information I found over the internet on unilateral hearing, directed to teachers. She approached me about getting an FM system in the classroom. Because Troy is in a parochial school, there is no funding for this. The resource teacher is now working with me to get funding from charities in the area. I was going to try and get help from his local public school, but his audiologist was pessimistic, because their funds are limited and therefore, used to help children with major hearing losses. Troy's doctor does not want him to wear a hearing aid, because it would block air to his ear and could possibly cause infection, so this is our only hope. -----Original Message-----From: kathrynaoconnell [mailto:kaoconnell@...]Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 7:51 PMcholesteatoma Subject: Hearing loss and teachersI am an elementary school teacher, and until it was my own son with the hearing problem, I don't think I truely understood what a hearing loss might do to a child in regard to his attentiveness and learning. I had a teacher ask me why my son doesn't let her know when he doesn't hear something. I had to tell her that because he has trouble hearing, he can't hear well enough to know that he missed something. I have to admit that this statement is common sense now, but I don't know that I would have realized the answer before my son's hearing loss. It is important that you have a conference early in the school year to discuss your child's hearing loss with the teacher(s)that will be working with your child. - Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Hi Terri - my daughter Chelsy goes to a parochial school. Any student in any school in a school district, whether public or parochial, is entitled to special services. I pay nothing for her special equipment because she is entitled to it. She also wears a hearing aid - she started kindergarten with it. Her school is old and they don't have air conditioning. The fans in the warm months, along with the classroom noise, created a problem for her with her hearing aid. It amplified the background noise as well. She now has an FM system for the classroom. It sits on her desk and she can hear the teacher (who wear a microphone) from anywhere in the classroom BUT it doesn't amplify the background noise. We paid nothing for this - check with your special education services for your school district. You may have to fight for it like I did, but its for your child. Caryn L. Gleixner Tabet DiVito & Rothstein LLC (312) 762-9473 This e-mail/internet message may contain material and/or information that is privileged, confidential and/or attorney work product and which is exempt from disclosure. It is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and delete all copies, and do not forward or use this information in any way. Thank you. -----Original Message-----From: Terri Potts [mailto:tpotts@...]Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:31 AMcholesteatoma Subject: RE: Hearing loss and teachers I couldn't agree more, Kathy. I met with my son's teacher shortly after school started to inform her of his hearing loss. I gave her information I found over the internet on unilateral hearing, directed to teachers. She approached me about getting an FM system in the classroom. Because Troy is in a parochial school, there is no funding for this. The resource teacher is now working with me to get funding from charities in the area. I was going to try and get help from his local public school, but his audiologist was pessimistic, because their funds are limited and therefore, used to help children with major hearing losses. Troy's doctor does not want him to wear a hearing aid, because it would block air to his ear and could possibly cause infection, so this is our only hope. -----Original Message-----From: kathrynaoconnell [mailto:kaoconnell@...]Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 7:51 PMcholesteatoma Subject: Hearing loss and teachersI am an elementary school teacher, and until it was my own son with the hearing problem, I don't think I truely understood what a hearing loss might do to a child in regard to his attentiveness and learning. I had a teacher ask me why my son doesn't let her know when he doesn't hear something. I had to tell her that because he has trouble hearing, he can't hear well enough to know that he missed something. I have to admit that this statement is common sense now, but I don't know that I would have realized the answer before my son's hearing loss. It is important that you have a conference early in the school year to discuss your child's hearing loss with the teacher(s)that will be working with your child. - Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Thanks so much for the suggestion, Caryn. I just called the Parent Resource Center for our county and she is going to have her supervisor give me a call. I will keep you posted. Terri Hearing loss and teachers I am an elementary school teacher, and until it was my own son with the hearing problem, I don't think I truely understood what a hearing loss might do to a child in regard to his attentiveness and learning. I had a teacher ask me why my son doesn't let her know when he doesn't hear something. I had to tell her that because he has trouble hearing, he can't hear well enough to know that he missed something. I have to admit that this statement is common sense now, but I don't know that I would have realized the answer before my son's hearing loss. It is important that you have a conference early in the school year to discuss your child's hearing loss with the teacher(s)that will be working with your child. - Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Good luck Terri and stick to your guns. Its a shame that sometimes we have to fight to get what is our/children's rights... Caryn L. Gleixner Tabet DiVito & Rothstein LLC (312) 762-9473 This e-mail/internet message may contain material and/or information that is privileged, confidential and/or attorney work product and which is exempt from disclosure. It is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and delete all copies, and do not forward or use this information in any way. Thank you. -----Original Message-----From: Terri Potts [mailto:tpotts@...]Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:17 AMcholesteatoma Subject: RE: Hearing loss and teachers Thanks so much for the suggestion, Caryn. I just called the Parent Resource Center for our county and she is going to have her supervisor give me a call. I will keep you posted. Terri -----Original Message-----From: Caryn Gleixner [mailto:cgleixner@...]Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:54 AMcholesteatoma Subject: RE: Hearing loss and teachers Hi Terri - my daughter Chelsy goes to a parochial school. Any student in any school in a school district, whether public or parochial, is entitled to special services. I pay nothing for her special equipment because she is entitled to it. She also wears a hearing aid - she started kindergarten with it. Her school is old and they don't have air conditioning. The fans in the warm months, along with the classroom noise, created a problem for her with her hearing aid. It amplified the background noise as well. She now has an FM system for the classroom. It sits on her desk and she can hear the teacher (who wear a microphone) from anywhere in the classroom BUT it doesn't amplify the background noise. We paid nothing for this - check with your special education services for your school district. You may have to fight for it like I did, but its for your child. Caryn L. Gleixner Tabet DiVito & Rothstein LLC (312) 762-9473 This e-mail/internet message may contain material and/or information that is privileged, confidential and/or attorney work product and which is exempt from disclosure. It is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and delete all copies, and do not forward or use this information in any way. Thank you. -----Original Message-----From: Terri Potts [mailto:tpotts@...]Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:31 AMcholesteatoma Subject: RE: Hearing loss and teachers I couldn't agree more, Kathy. I met with my son's teacher shortly after school started to inform her of his hearing loss. I gave her information I found over the internet on unilateral hearing, directed to teachers. She approached me about getting an FM system in the classroom. Because Troy is in a parochial school, there is no funding for this. The resource teacher is now working with me to get funding from charities in the area. I was going to try and get help from his local public school, but his audiologist was pessimistic, because their funds are limited and therefore, used to help children with major hearing losses. Troy's doctor does not want him to wear a hearing aid, because it would block air to his ear and could possibly cause infection, so this is our only hope. -----Original Message-----From: kathrynaoconnell [mailto:kaoconnell@...]Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 7:51 PMcholesteatoma Subject: Hearing loss and teachersI am an elementary school teacher, and until it was my own son with the hearing problem, I don't think I truely understood what a hearing loss might do to a child in regard to his attentiveness and learning. I had a teacher ask me why my son doesn't let her know when he doesn't hear something. I had to tell her that because he has trouble hearing, he can't hear well enough to know that he missed something. I have to admit that this statement is common sense now, but I don't know that I would have realized the answer before my son's hearing loss. It is important that you have a conference early in the school year to discuss your child's hearing loss with the teacher(s)that will be working with your child. - Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Thanks, Caryn. Hearing loss and teachers I am an elementary school teacher, and until it was my own son with the hearing problem, I don't think I truely understood what a hearing loss might do to a child in regard to his attentiveness and learning. I had a teacher ask me why my son doesn't let her know when he doesn't hear something. I had to tell her that because he has trouble hearing, he can't hear well enough to know that he missed something. I have to admit that this statement is common sense now, but I don't know that I would have realized the answer before my son's hearing loss. It is important that you have a conference early in the school year to discuss your child's hearing loss with the teacher(s)that will be working with your child. - Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Your welcome and have a grand day. Also, in passing, most school districts also have social workers assigned to that district. They are always a good source of help and alliance. Caryn L. Gleixner Tabet DiVito & Rothstein LLC (312) 762-9473 This e-mail/internet message may contain material and/or information that is privileged, confidential and/or attorney work product and which is exempt from disclosure. It is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and delete all copies, and do not forward or use this information in any way. Thank you. -----Original Message-----From: Terri Potts [mailto:tpotts@...]Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:40 AMcholesteatoma Subject: RE: Hearing loss and teachers Thanks, Caryn. -----Original Message-----From: Caryn Gleixner [mailto:cgleixner@...]Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 12:28 PMcholesteatoma Subject: RE: Hearing loss and teachers Good luck Terri and stick to your guns. Its a shame that sometimes we have to fight to get what is our/children's rights... Caryn L. Gleixner Tabet DiVito & Rothstein LLC (312) 762-9473 This e-mail/internet message may contain material and/or information that is privileged, confidential and/or attorney work product and which is exempt from disclosure. It is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and delete all copies, and do not forward or use this information in any way. Thank you. -----Original Message-----From: Terri Potts [mailto:tpotts@...]Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:17 AMcholesteatoma Subject: RE: Hearing loss and teachers Thanks so much for the suggestion, Caryn. I just called the Parent Resource Center for our county and she is going to have her supervisor give me a call. I will keep you posted. Terri -----Original Message-----From: Caryn Gleixner [mailto:cgleixner@...]Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:54 AMcholesteatoma Subject: RE: Hearing loss and teachers Hi Terri - my daughter Chelsy goes to a parochial school. Any student in any school in a school district, whether public or parochial, is entitled to special services. I pay nothing for her special equipment because she is entitled to it. She also wears a hearing aid - she started kindergarten with it. Her school is old and they don't have air conditioning. The fans in the warm months, along with the classroom noise, created a problem for her with her hearing aid. It amplified the background noise as well. She now has an FM system for the classroom. It sits on her desk and she can hear the teacher (who wear a microphone) from anywhere in the classroom BUT it doesn't amplify the background noise. We paid nothing for this - check with your special education services for your school district. You may have to fight for it like I did, but its for your child. Caryn L. Gleixner Tabet DiVito & Rothstein LLC (312) 762-9473 This e-mail/internet message may contain material and/or information that is privileged, confidential and/or attorney work product and which is exempt from disclosure. It is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and delete all copies, and do not forward or use this information in any way. Thank you. -----Original Message-----From: Terri Potts [mailto:tpotts@...]Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:31 AMcholesteatoma Subject: RE: Hearing loss and teachers I couldn't agree more, Kathy. I met with my son's teacher shortly after school started to inform her of his hearing loss. I gave her information I found over the internet on unilateral hearing, directed to teachers. She approached me about getting an FM system in the classroom. Because Troy is in a parochial school, there is no funding for this. The resource teacher is now working with me to get funding from charities in the area. I was going to try and get help from his local public school, but his audiologist was pessimistic, because their funds are limited and therefore, used to help children with major hearing losses. Troy's doctor does not want him to wear a hearing aid, because it would block air to his ear and could possibly cause infection, so this is our only hope. -----Original Message-----From: kathrynaoconnell [mailto:kaoconnell@...]Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 7:51 PMcholesteatoma Subject: Hearing loss and teachersI am an elementary school teacher, and until it was my own son with the hearing problem, I don't think I truely understood what a hearing loss might do to a child in regard to his attentiveness and learning. I had a teacher ask me why my son doesn't let her know when he doesn't hear something. I had to tell her that because he has trouble hearing, he can't hear well enough to know that he missed something. I have to admit that this statement is common sense now, but I don't know that I would have realized the answer before my son's hearing loss. It is important that you have a conference early in the school year to discuss your child's hearing loss with the teacher(s)that will be working with your child. - Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2002 Report Share Posted October 8, 2002 Hi Terri, Good luck with this. Troy deserves it. Please keep us posted on the process you may have to go through to get this FM system. I had never heard of this until recent posts and if you share what it takes to get this equipment for Troy, I believe you will be helping other children on this site. Michele Terri Potts wrote: Thanks so much for the suggestion, Caryn. I just called the Parent ResourceCenter for our county and she is going to have her supervisor give me acall. I will keep you posted.Terri-----Original Message-----From: Caryn Gleixner [mailto:cgleixner@...]Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:54 AMcholesteatoma Subject: RE: Hearing loss and teachersHi Terri - my daughter Chelsy goes to a parochial school. Any student in anyschool in a school district, whether public or parochial, is entitled tospecial services. I pay nothing for her special equipment because she isentitled to it. She also wears a hearing aid - she started kindergartenwith it. Her school is old and they don't have air conditioning. The fansin the warm months, along with the classroom noise, created a problem forher with her hearing aid. It amplified the background noise as well. Shenow has an FM system for the classroom. It sits on her desk and she canhear the teacher (who wear a microphone) from anywhere in the classroom BUTit doesn't amplify the background noise. We paid nothing for this - checkwith your special education services for your school district. You may haveto fight for it like I did, but its for your child. Caryn L. Gleixner Tabet DiVito & Rothstein LLC (312) 762-9473 This e-mail/internet message may contain material and/or information that isprivileged, confidential and/or attorney work product and which is exemptfrom disclosure. It is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Anyreview, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without expresspermission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient,please contact the sender immediately and delete all copies, and do notforward or use this information in any way. Thank you.-----Original Message-----From: Terri Potts [mailto:tpotts@...]Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:31 AMcholesteatoma Subject: RE: Hearing loss and teachersI couldn't agree more, Kathy. I met with my son's teacher shortly afterschool started to inform her of his hearing loss. I gave her information Ifound over the internet on unilateral hearing, directed to teachers. Sheapproached me about getting an FM system in the classroom. Because Troy isin a parochial school, there is no funding for this. The resource teacheris now working with me to get funding from charities in the area. I wasgoing to try and get help from his local public school, but his audiologistwas pessimistic, because their funds are limited and therefore, used to helpchildren with major hearing losses. Troy's doctor does not want him to weara hearing aid, because it would block air to his ear and could possiblycause infection, so this is our only hope.-----Original Message-----From: kathrynaoconnell [mailto:kaoconnell@...]Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 7:51 PMcholesteatoma Subject: Hearing loss and teachersI am an elementary school teacher, and until it was my own son with the hearing problem, I don't think I truely understood what a hearing loss might do to a child in regard to his attentiveness and learning. I had a teacher ask me why my son doesn't let her know when he doesn't hear something. I had to tell her that because he has trouble hearing, he can't hear well enough to know that he missed something. I have to admit that this statement is common sense now, but I don't know that I would have realized the answer before my son's hearing loss. It is important that you have a conference early in the school year to discuss your child's hearing loss with the teacher(s)that will be working with your child. - Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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