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Can anyone tell me how you tell if you have soft or hard water? And if you

have hard water, how do you make it soft? I have a recipe for shampoo which

calls for soft water and states to soften it, you can add washing soda.

Anyone know what washing soda is? Thanks.

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i also have hard water but when i make toiletries i always buy good

distilled water which as far as i know is soft already.....you sould

always use distilled water for your poducts dolores

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The key to hardness in water is pH. Raise the ph and you soften the water.

Lower the ph and you harden the waterThe easiest definition of hardness is

the ability the form lather in soap. Hard water - not much lather. Soft

water - lots of lather. Home Depot or Lowes sell softening kits. HTH RIcky

in Texas

Re: Digest Number 619

> Can anyone tell me how you tell if you have soft or hard water? And if

you

> have hard water, how do you make it soft? I have a recipe for shampoo

which

> calls for soft water and states to soften it, you can add washing soda.

> Anyone know what washing soda is? Thanks.

>

>

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In a message dated 9/24/01 9:34:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

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> Message: 7

> Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 18:46:18 -0500

> From: " SUSAN TENBROOK " <viligidiot@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Thanks to Dr. R, I'm back for good now!

>

> THANKS !

>

> My hubby is noticing too! He told me a week or so ago " I'm a lucky

> man..I get older and uglier and u get younger and prettier " ..LOL

>

> in ARk

Is Tom coming ?????

Sassy

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HEY! He sounds like a keeper!!! You are sure a lucky lady!

Hugs,

Pat Lyle

<< From: " SUSAN TENBROOK " <viligidiot@...>

My hubby is noticing too! He told me a week or so ago " I'm a lucky

man..I get older and uglier and u get younger and prettier " ..LOL

in ARk>>

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Dear Carole,

I really do not have enough space for my pump, they just sort of had to cram

it in there. It is a constant irritation, as it is either hitting my rib

cage or bouncing off my iliac crest all the time. HOWEVER, it is a huge

improvement over the way my life was prior to getting it.

For 1 1/2 yrs. I slept (actually just squirmed around crying most of the

time) in a recliner in the living room. I couldn't straighten out in bed, it

was too painful. This would go on for days until I just " crashed " from sheer

exhaustion. It really didn't matter what meds they gave me, the pain would

wake me up. It was awful. I couldn't do much of anything without being in so

much pain that I'd be reduced to tears. So humiliating. I was so depressed.

I had been trying to get pregnant prior to this. I had been an RN, working

12 hour shifts. It was a really rough time as I gradually came to grips with

the fact that I'd never be able to work again if I wanted a family.

When I was in the hospital for the trial (they run an epidural for a few

days to see if it helps), there were several people from church who came to

see me. Over and over I heard " Oh my goodness Carla, you look so much

YOUNGER " . I'm afraid to ask what I must have looked like before - lol. For

the first time in forever, I was able to get up & go for a walk just because

I felt like it. I still needed my cane, and it really hurt, but finally, I

could stand it.

Since then, however, my goofy doc has done a rather pathetic job of

controlling my pain with this pump. I am very sensitive to narcotics. So I

have to really watch what they do when adjusting my pump or I'll end up with

symptoms of morphine overdose: urinary retention (I have some

retention/hesitation anyway & morphine makes mine bad enough that I must keep

catheters on hand), nausea/vomiting (I vomit until they turn the pump down,

if it's hours, days, whatever, & NOTHING stops it), intense itching,

headache. He has done this to me 4 or 5 times since this past April. Every

time it happens, he tries to tell me that I need to see a GI doc or that I

have the flu. Last time he did it was just before Christmas. I finally got

fed up & basically told him to get over his happy self. I've been his

patient for years & he KNOWS this is what happens when he increases my dose

too fast. He countered with " well I thought you were having all this pain " .

I told him that yes, I am, but do you really think puking my guts out is

gonna help it? He told me I'd just have to pay closer attention to what THEY

do. So, I guess he needs a baby-sitter - lol. I told him 5 years ago that

he needed a mommy to follow him around to keep his head out of his behind, as

he no sooner told a patient he'd do something, & then, as quickly as he said

it, he'd forget. He said I'd make a good one for the job - lol. He just has

SO many patients, it's unreal. So here I am, still working as an RN to get my

own care. We always did have to step around the docs HUGE egos to get

anything done for our patients. You know, if you want something ordered, it

has to be THEIR idea or they won't do it. So you gotta be creative. It's

truly ridiculous. I think he should have to put me on the payroll - ha ha.

Well now that I've told you way more than you probably wanted to know, I'll

close. Dd has fallen asleep in my lap here & she's killing my belly on the

pump area. See ya soon ----------------- Carla Kay

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Dear longevity members,

I could not agree more with Dr. Dean's reply.

I use vitamins and supplements regularly and I make my choices based on my

reading and understanding of the medical literature. But to be on the safe

side, I keep an eye on the " other side " , i.e. the opposers of the use of

vitamins and supplements. What I see is most reassuring for me.

Every so and then the media circulate some new study that supposedly defames

vitamins and supplements and scares people away. In about 7 years of

carefully watching, I have never seen a single piece of compelling evidence.

Some examples:

- Vitamin C kills B12 (claim withdrawn a few years later)

- Vitamin C causes cancer (actual study says that it caused some DNA

mutations in vitro under special conditions that are not met in vivo)

- Folic acid is dangerous because it can mask a vitamin B12 deficiency (I

take a lot of vit B12 anyway so why should I care?)

- Huge doses of vit B6 (e.g. 1gr) can cause numbness at the fingers which

hints to neuropathy but the symptoms fade away when B6 dose is reduced (I

take 200mg of vit B6 so I do not care; would only increase my dose if I test

high on homocystein - BTW this was the basis of a huge media attack on

vitamins about a year ago.)

- Vitamin C is useless because it is excreted in urine and taking vit C

supplements does not increase plasma levels (turns out that this NIH study

measured vit C plasma levels 12 HOURS AFTER vit C injestion; vit C injestion

DOES increase vit C plasma levels for about 4-6 hours, i.e. they waited

until it was excreted and then took the measurement, I take vit C 4-5 times

a day so I do not care.)

- Such and such herb killed such and such innocent unsuspecting consumer

therefore all supplements should be banned (well, what is new, opium is a

herb; I know herbs are powerful and can be dangerous, before one takes a

herb one has to study it carefully, read the label, etc. I take gingko

biloba, huperzine, ginseng, curcumin, green tea, etc. and some times I see a

terrorizing study suggesting that one of my herbs may be half as dangerous

as coffee.)

Given the power of the supplement haters (pharmaceutical companies have to

hate supplements; even if they do not believe that they are effective,

supplements are an alternative to their products and there are people who

take supplements rather than their products), if this is all they can come

up with then I feel most reassured.

Best,

vasilis

Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:24:13 -0500

From: " Ward Dean, M.D. " <warddeanmd@...>

Subject: RE: Study Confirms Ephedrine Diet Supplements Can Kill

More Dysinformation

This is a confusing article, that provides conflicting information.

First, ephedra-containing supplements are no longer available. The article

talks about ephedrine, throughout, and it is not until the end that ephedra

is mentioned.

Ephedrine, contrary to this story, has never, to my knowledge, been

available in health food stores, as stated in this article.

Whatever the substance used was in the study, it was administered to dogs

with artificially-induced arterial stenosis. Warning labels on all

ephedra-containing products cautioned people with heart conditions, or under

treatment for any condition, to consult with their physician before using

the product.

Ephedra has been safely used in China and Europe for hundreds of years. It

has been safely used in this country for many years for weight loss, and as

a bronchodilator. Congressman (Dr.) Ron (who is an obstetrician), once

told me that ephedra is the safest substance there is for pregnant

asthmatics. How's that for an endorsement?

When the FDA doesn't like something that's not made by a pharmaceutical

company, you know that it's got to be good. And the FDA really didn't like

ephedra.

Ward Dean, M.D.

Study Confirms Ephedrine Diet Supplements Can Kill

Be careful with ephedrine.

-gts

--------

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A study in dogs confirms that ephedrine weight loss

supplements can kill, U.S. researchers said on Thursday, supporting the U.S.

Food and Drug Administration's action to ban them.

The supplements containing ephedrine -- originally a herbal extract taken

from a shrub and also used as a decongestant -- had little effect on healthy

dogs, the study found.

But in dogs that had their arteries artificially blocked, ephedrine had

dangerous effects, said Dr. Philip on of the University of Oklahoma.

" For our experiment, we went to the local health food store, bought

ephedrine supplements and gave our animals the dose recommended on the

label, " on told a briefing sponsored by the American Medical

Association.

" In past experiments on obese, otherwise healthy individuals, ephedrine did

not raise their heart rates when they were either at rest or exercising, "

on added.

" When we gave healthy animals ephedrine, we found exactly the same thing.

But the moment they developed a blockage in their heart artery, which we are

able to cause reversibly, their heart rates went through the roof. "

These fast heart rates, called fibrillation, can kill.

" The heart starts beating so fast it can no longer pump blood, " on

said. " We didn't expect such a dramatic response to ephedrine. "

Many people have such blockages without symptoms, on noted.

In a report to be published in the Oct. 26 issue of the Journal of the

American College of Cardiology, on said the findings could also begin

to shed light on the 100,000 or so deaths every year in the United States

from sudden cardiac deaths.

Ephedrine is not the cause in most, but the supplement affects the

sympathetic nervous system, which in turn controls heart rate.

" This study certainly supports the FDA's decision to ban ephedrine from

dietary supplements, " on said in a statement. " I hope it will offer us

additional insights into the nature and causes of unheralded sudden death. "

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration banned dietary supplements containing

ephedra in February because it can cause a heart attack and stroke. The ban

took effect in April.

Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no

circumstances should any information published here be considered a

substitute for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the

owner

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Dear longevity members,

I could not agree more with Dr. Dean's reply.

I use vitamins and supplements regularly and I make my choices based on my

reading and understanding of the medical literature. But to be on the safe

side, I keep an eye on the " other side " , i.e. the opposers of the use of

vitamins and supplements. What I see is most reassuring for me.

Every so and then the media circulate some new study that supposedly defames

vitamins and supplements and scares people away. In about 7 years of

carefully watching, I have never seen a single piece of compelling evidence.

Some examples:

- Vitamin C kills B12 (claim withdrawn a few years later)

- Vitamin C causes cancer (actual study says that it caused some DNA

mutations in vitro under special conditions that are not met in vivo)

- Folic acid is dangerous because it can mask a vitamin B12 deficiency (I

take a lot of vit B12 anyway so why should I care?)

- Huge doses of vit B6 (e.g. 1gr) can cause numbness at the fingers which

hints to neuropathy but the symptoms fade away when B6 dose is reduced (I

take 200mg of vit B6 so I do not care; would only increase my dose if I test

high on homocystein - BTW this was the basis of a huge media attack on

vitamins about a year ago.)

- Vitamin C is useless because it is excreted in urine and taking vit C

supplements does not increase plasma levels (turns out that this NIH study

measured vit C plasma levels 12 HOURS AFTER vit C injestion; vit C injestion

DOES increase vit C plasma levels for about 4-6 hours, i.e. they waited

until it was excreted and then took the measurement, I take vit C 4-5 times

a day so I do not care.)

- Such and such herb killed such and such innocent unsuspecting consumer

therefore all supplements should be banned (well, what is new, opium is a

herb; I know herbs are powerful and can be dangerous, before one takes a

herb one has to study it carefully, read the label, etc. I take gingko

biloba, huperzine, ginseng, curcumin, green tea, etc. and some times I see a

terrorizing study suggesting that one of my herbs may be half as dangerous

as coffee.)

Given the power of the supplement haters (pharmaceutical companies have to

hate supplements; even if they do not believe that they are effective,

supplements are an alternative to their products and there are people who

take supplements rather than their products), if this is all they can come

up with then I feel most reassured.

Best,

vasilis

Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:24:13 -0500

From: " Ward Dean, M.D. " <warddeanmd@...>

Subject: RE: Study Confirms Ephedrine Diet Supplements Can Kill

More Dysinformation

This is a confusing article, that provides conflicting information.

First, ephedra-containing supplements are no longer available. The article

talks about ephedrine, throughout, and it is not until the end that ephedra

is mentioned.

Ephedrine, contrary to this story, has never, to my knowledge, been

available in health food stores, as stated in this article.

Whatever the substance used was in the study, it was administered to dogs

with artificially-induced arterial stenosis. Warning labels on all

ephedra-containing products cautioned people with heart conditions, or under

treatment for any condition, to consult with their physician before using

the product.

Ephedra has been safely used in China and Europe for hundreds of years. It

has been safely used in this country for many years for weight loss, and as

a bronchodilator. Congressman (Dr.) Ron (who is an obstetrician), once

told me that ephedra is the safest substance there is for pregnant

asthmatics. How's that for an endorsement?

When the FDA doesn't like something that's not made by a pharmaceutical

company, you know that it's got to be good. And the FDA really didn't like

ephedra.

Ward Dean, M.D.

Study Confirms Ephedrine Diet Supplements Can Kill

Be careful with ephedrine.

-gts

--------

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A study in dogs confirms that ephedrine weight loss

supplements can kill, U.S. researchers said on Thursday, supporting the U.S.

Food and Drug Administration's action to ban them.

The supplements containing ephedrine -- originally a herbal extract taken

from a shrub and also used as a decongestant -- had little effect on healthy

dogs, the study found.

But in dogs that had their arteries artificially blocked, ephedrine had

dangerous effects, said Dr. Philip on of the University of Oklahoma.

" For our experiment, we went to the local health food store, bought

ephedrine supplements and gave our animals the dose recommended on the

label, " on told a briefing sponsored by the American Medical

Association.

" In past experiments on obese, otherwise healthy individuals, ephedrine did

not raise their heart rates when they were either at rest or exercising, "

on added.

" When we gave healthy animals ephedrine, we found exactly the same thing.

But the moment they developed a blockage in their heart artery, which we are

able to cause reversibly, their heart rates went through the roof. "

These fast heart rates, called fibrillation, can kill.

" The heart starts beating so fast it can no longer pump blood, " on

said. " We didn't expect such a dramatic response to ephedrine. "

Many people have such blockages without symptoms, on noted.

In a report to be published in the Oct. 26 issue of the Journal of the

American College of Cardiology, on said the findings could also begin

to shed light on the 100,000 or so deaths every year in the United States

from sudden cardiac deaths.

Ephedrine is not the cause in most, but the supplement affects the

sympathetic nervous system, which in turn controls heart rate.

" This study certainly supports the FDA's decision to ban ephedrine from

dietary supplements, " on said in a statement. " I hope it will offer us

additional insights into the nature and causes of unheralded sudden death. "

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration banned dietary supplements containing

ephedra in February because it can cause a heart attack and stroke. The ban

took effect in April.

Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no

circumstances should any information published here be considered a

substitute for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the

owner

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Hi Vas

Apples are the one fruit I eat a few times a week (after a year on the

diet), as apples aren't as sweet as some of the other fruits.

Here's a link to a nifty chart that lists the sugar content of fruits (among

other things). One of the group posted the link last year sometime, and I

find I use it often.

http://www.thefruitpages.com/contents.shtml

I also think Bee has posted a listing or ranking of fruits (and vegetables)

in our group's files.

Kim M.

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If you want to read a great story about chelation go to leesilsby.com click on autism specialties topic dmsa and josh soe make story. We will have an update very soon as this will break on national news. thanks alan wrote: There are 6 messages in this issue.Topics in this digest:1. Re: OTFrom: "The Marotta Family" 2. Re: OTFrom: Laurie Kowalski 3. MOM'S NIGHT OUT - Join us!, 2/11/2006, 7:00 pmFrom: 4. Re: OTFrom: Biehl 5. About the TOY LIBRARY, 2/11/2006, 12:00 amFrom: 6. How to write into our Group - Weekly Reminder, 2/11/2006, 12:00 amFrom:

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 1 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:14:05 -0500From: "The Marotta Family" Subject: Re: OTThank your husband for me! The only reason I knew about the tests were because another mother in CA told me about them. She's an at-home mom now, but was a public school teacher in the past (a sp ed teacher, I think). Thank God for the internet. Thank God for kind hearted parents who, after learning the hard way, impart their wisdom and experience to us neophytes!! I agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY that each parent of a special needs child should not have to "discover" what the schools have to offer, what evaluations can be done, what services and supports their child can have to succeed in school, etc etc etc!!And the native Americans are upset

whenever anyone says, "Columbus discovered the new world." They say, "But we were here all along!" The parent of a special needs student says, "I just discovered my child could have had this evaluation, this service, this support all along! Too bad he's 16 years old!" And the school administrator thinks, "Drat, they found us out" We could tell those native Americans a thing or too about discrimination!!Chris>From: Biehl >Reply- > >Subject: Re: [ ] OT>Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 07:40:06 -0800 (PST)>>Thank you > I am so glad you are here. I have some news to share. My husband is >looking into talking to Congressman Dennis Kucinich about introducing a law >so that all the services our children deserve do not fall on the parents to >find out what they are and prove the need for

them but the school to tell >us what they offer. Right now in front of the supreme court parents have >sued a school system for not telling them know what services were available >to that child. I guess according to the law now the school does not have to >tell you which tests they can do or what services they are entitled. This >law would make it so the school has to tell us what our kids are entitled >to and not make us do all the research of what tests they can do and so >forth. If it had not been for you telling me about the Auditory Processing >tests and the others you told me about I would not have known. The school >was not offering them. So hopefully with the pull he has with some of >politicans we can get something> done. Wish him luck. He is an idea man and I he has talked to so many >people about this already all we need is to have the lawmakers to hear >about now. I will let you

know what happens when they talk.> Talk soon> >>The Marotta Family wrote:> - You are not bothering me. We moms have got to stick >together!! Bobby gets very limited OT at school. It pretty much focuses >on fine motor skills - letter formation and lace tying. His therapist >changed in the middle of first semester and it took the new therapist a >long time to understand how to motivate my son. However, in his IEP, they >mention a sensory diet, that when he gets wound up, he can go do something >that he finds relaxing. But the sensory diet happens to be independent of >the OT. Tomorrow, I meet his new spec ed tutor (yes, yet another school >staff change), and I can ask how everything is going. I get the impression >that my son hasn't adjusted to the new tutor or the new tutor hasn't >adjusted to him. I'm catching fleeting symptoms of anxiety. I'll

have to >take a copy of the IEP and mention things to help him relax if indeed the >tutor is too overbearing.>> Anyway, you asked about seeing the OT's notes. If the OT's notes are >going into your son's file, then by law you have every right to see those >notes. I would also think you would have a right to see the notes if they >were recording his progress in meeting the IEP goals. I do believe there >is a case where you would not, by law, be able to see those notes. I'm >afraid I haven't done much research on this since I haven't had to deal >with similar issues in my son's schooling. Maybe someone else on the list >could answer your question better.>> www.wrightlaw.com basically says that if the OT (or teacher) makes >personal notes and she DOES NOT SHARE them with a anyone else, then legally >you can't see them. But if she shares the notes with anyone else, such as

>the teacher or the SLP or an aide, then they are no longer personal notes. >They become part of your son's educational records and by law you have >access to them. Are you on good terms with your son's OT? If so, maybe >she would let you see them if you just asked to. Here's what slaw >says:> ""What are education records?> “Education records” are broadly defined as:> those records, files, documents, and other materials, which (i) contain >information directly related to a student; and (ii) are maintained by an >educational agency or institution or by a person acting for such agency or >institution. 20 U.S.C. §1232g(a)(4)(A). See also 34 CFR §99.3.> Education records include “all instructional materials, including >teacher’s manuals, films, tapes, or other supplementary material which will >be used in connection with any survey, analysis, or evaluation as part of >any

applicable program shall be available for inspection by the parents or >guardians of the children.”> The transcript of a hearing is an education record for purposes of >Section 504. Due process decisions are education records. Tapes of IEP >meetings are education records as are IEPs. Letters between parent and >school are education records.> Personal notes and memory aids that are used only by the person who made >them are not educational records. But if notes are shared with or disclosed >to another person, notes are educational records.""> I hope you find this helpful, . Good luck with those notes! If >the OT can't or won't share the notes with you, maybe she would be willing >to write a report or answer specific questions. Chris>> ----- Original Message -----> From: Biehl> > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:09 PM>

Subject: [ ] OT>>> > I hate to keep bothering you, but I have another question. Does Bobby >recieve OT at school and if so do you get a report of those sessions? The >reason I am asking is because I would like to ask the school OT for her >notes from all his sessions. Do I have the right to see them? I think I >know the answer is yes but I am not sure.> Thanks> >>>>

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