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Hello Darlene,

Okay, take a deep breath, relax...okay. Now, forget all your

questions. Blank screen...now read below.

Step 1--breath all the air out (think of a golden straw)or like when

Becall said to Humphrey Bogart, " You know how to whistle don't

you? JUST PUT YOU LIPS TOGETHER AND BLOW. " (maybe a visual will help)!

Step 2--Gentle and slowly (mouth closed) breath threw your nose

bringing air to the back of your throat and note how your tummy

expands. (Place a hand resting on your lower abdomen) The had will

rise up a bit filling deeply with air.

Step 3--Open your mouth for a LONG Pahhhhhhhhhh, lower that jaw, the

more you lower and open your mouth you will find the air contracts

the lower abs back to expell. Don't have to force it, its automatic.

Contracting those muscles pulling " in " and the air goes out.

Step 4--Lift your inners up to your throat and through you head! (or

feels as such) place your tongue to the roof of your mouth. (This

always helps to remind me to keep my lift). The tongue to the roof of

them mouth is excellent for a facial lift too. Pulling up the neck

muscles and jaw etc. Hold for 8-10 counts, or however long you have

worked up to.

Step 5--Release. (that's it, now lets begin again!)

Sure hope this helps you!

Read some of the postings about breathing. Many are listed for lower

belly this month. Also the one on diaphragmic breathing is excellent.

Okay, let us know if this helps. Cheerio! Tig :)

> just got the LL tape (instuctional). now i am confused. on initial

exhale,

> should your stomach be normal,or make it expand out. on the next

inhale

> should my stomach go out also or be in normal stage. on the pah ,

should my

> stomach be expanding out or should i start the pulling in

(tightening) or

> after the pah only does the breath hploding and pulling process

take place

> only.??????? i feel the tape is not explaining this well enough

for me .

> help!!!!!!!!!

>

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Tij!

In the words of Rex on from "My Fair Lady", "I think she's got it!"

Finally!!! What a wonderful description. Hope you keep it on file so that you don't have to keep re-writing it for others who have the same struggle.

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Hello Darlene,Okay, take a deep breath, relax...okay. Now, forget all your questions. Blank screen...now read below.Step 1--breath all the air out (think of a golden straw)or like when Becall said to Humphrey Bogart, "You know how to whistle don't you? JUST PUT YOU LIPS TOGETHER AND BLOW." (maybe a visual will help)!Step 2--Gentle and slowly (mouth closed) breath threw your nose bringing air to the back of your throat and note how your tummy expands. (Place a hand resting on your lower abdomen) The had will rise up a bit filling deeply with air.Step 3--Open your mouth for a LONG Pahhhhhhhhhh, lower that jaw, the more you lower and open your mouth you will find the air contracts the lower abs back to expell. Don't have to force it, its automatic. Contracting those muscles pulling "in" and the air goes out.Step 4--Lift your inners up to your throat and through you head! (or feels as such) place your tongue to the roof of your mouth. (This always helps to remind me to keep my lift). The tongue to the roof of them mouth is excellent for a facial lift too. Pulling up the neck muscles and jaw etc. Hold for 8-10 counts, or however long you have worked up to.Step 5--Release. (that's it, now lets begin again!)Sure hope this helps you!Read some of the postings about breathing. Many are listed for lower belly this month. Also the one on diaphragmic breathing is excellent.Okay, let us know if this helps. Cheerio! Tig :)> just got the LL tape (instuctional). now i am confused. on initial exhale, > should your stomach be normal,or make it expand out. on the next inhale > should my stomach go out also or be in normal stage. on the pah , should my > stomach be expanding out or should i start the pulling in (tightening) or > after the pah only does the breath hploding and pulling process take place > only.??????? i feel the tape is not explaining this well enough for me . > help!!!!!!!!!> _________________________________________________________________________> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.> > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com.Make A Buck Or Two @ TheMail.com - Free Internet EmailSign-up today at http://themail.com/ref.htm?ref=1227417 *** You might as well be paid to read the mail from this group! Your List Owners/Moderators:Rashelle - rashelle@...Karma - karma@...Darlene - dar77y@...List Web Sites:http://www.lifelift.comhttp://www.angelmagic.comhttp://loaves-n-fishes.comhttp://themail.com/ref.htm?ref=1227417 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/karmasrecommerea/

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Greeting from of the United States.

I too have had cancer and am treating it in the best way I can find. Finding

is the problem.

Cancer, like a splinter, isn't good for the body and must be removed...

Removing is mechanical and doesn't change a thing within the body except for

the growth of the cancer which has been removed.

Now, we need to work on that which caused the cancer. Well, now that again

is an another problem.

So now, where are we.

To discover a diet and a lifestyle that prevents cancer from taking a foot

hold within the body.

In all of animal life, only the shark is relatively free of cancer. So, to

find a solution to being cancer free is really a challenge.

There are many to can give a solution, but few have the answer.

Maybe one has to go back then we were first created. And again there will be

problems in this arena.

After removal of this malady, like a splinter, we then need to address a way

of prevention.

Raw foods, unprocessed foods, and most important, those foods that cause the

body to work in such a way that does not promote Peace from within.

For an example.

To eat fruits requires very little of the bodies energy to covert to energy.

To eat fats and proteins requires lots of work for the body to covert this

substance to useful material for life.

Therefore, we need to find a diet and a way of life that is good and pleasant

for the body and the mind and soul to survive.

One needs to go back a long time ago where people enjoyed the food of nature

in natures way, and this may be the way of good health.

Love,

.

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> Hello,

> My mother has liver and abdominal cancer. She has received

> chemotherapy, had surgery and is currently taking Tomoxifen and

> Megace. I've heard of so many alternative treatments _ Essiac tea,

> Shitake mushrooms, Agaricus, Haelen, Hulda e's Zapper - does

> anything really give good results?

> I'd be grateful to hear from anyone who has knowledge or personal

> experience good or bad.

> We live in the UK so if anyone knows of treatments available here

I'd

> like to know.

> Many thanks in advance

> Debbie

Hello Debbie , i can't tell to you wath is best for your mother , but

i think that all that she do with alternative natural product is ok.

First is very important the food that she eat, give to her more

vegetable like " Broccoli " and all the other vegetable but don't

cook to much and don't take milk, cheese, and meat expecialy red

meat, very important to eat biological food .

Secondary give to her the possibility to do Omeopatic visit to a

Doctor in england it's very easy to find one, this help the secondary

effect of the chemio.

If you want there is a new natural product i give to you the name of

the internet site is in english so you can read all the notice the

site is " http://www.avemar.it because is natural ingredients i think

it should never damage the health of your mother.

The other two natural plants is Aloe arborescens and Noni ( Morinda

citriofolia ).

The first is scientific that have antitumoral activity, to take this

plant you have to make like a yogurt, with this ingredients, 350 gr

of Aloe arborescens, 500 gr of biological honey, and 50 ml of wisky

40 °, then you have tu put all in a engine , i can't translate in

english in italien the name isa " frullatore " and at the end of all

take half an hour before the tre meal. My wife do this with other

people and it's very good for all the body there is many person that

go away of cancer with this or that have no many problem during the

chemio. Noni is fruit of polinesia and also this is scintific that

have anticancer activity,for this go in the site

http//www.hawaiiannoni.com or go in a motor internet and write noni

there is a lot of notice.

Sorry for my English if you want to do the Aloe food please tell to

me that i send to you the instruction in Italen so you can translate

and make all in the perfect mode, but first be shoore that you can

find the plant, " Aloe arborescens " , bye, Massimo.

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Debbie

Where in the UK are you?

I know of a Chinese Herbalist in Wales who might be able to help with treatment

for your mum? One of the things he uses is Ganoderma mushrooms. They have been

discussed before in this group and there is also a lot of information on the

net,

if you go to www.dogpile.com and type Ganoderma mushrooms in you'll be surprised

at all the results. Let me know if you want his contact details - I don't have

them to hand right now but I can find them for you

There is also a clinic in Manchester that helps people in a variety of ways,

again, let me know if you are interested and I'll find the contact details for

you

Good luck

Debbie

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Hi Debbie. Is Laetrile (B17) available in your country? Do you know of

anyone who has been helped by it in the U.K ? Laetrile (B17) was recently

banned in the land of the free by some Federal Judge who never took the time

to go out to the people that have been helped by taking this wonderful

suppliment in their war against cancer. Check out some of the sites in the

U.S.A. that once sold it and read some of the testamonials. I wish you the

best. Ciro

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Hi Debbie

I live in Northern Ireland, My dad was diagnoised with stomach cancer three weeks ago.......I was lucky enough to get my hands on B17 ...laetrile, and I started him on it as soon as i could.....he seems to have more energy and his appetite is returning. I got the B17 through mail order usa and the apricot seeds in Uk........ if i can be of any help, please don't hestiate to tell me know..........or if you need any questions answered ....best of luck

Trisha

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Hello,My mother has liver and abdominal cancer. She has received chemotherapy, had surgery and is currently taking Tomoxifen and Megace. I've heard of so many alternative treatments _ Essiac tea, Shitake mushrooms, Agaricus, Haelen, Hulda e's Zapper - does anything really give good results? I'd be grateful to hear from anyone who has knowledge or personal experience good or bad. We live in the UK so if anyone knows of treatments available here I'd like to know.Many thanks in advanceDebbie Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

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Ciro

Thanks for your help, I am actually following the whole protocol for administering B17, with enzymes, shark oil, vitamins A, C, and D.

best regards

Trisha

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Hi Trisha: It's very important for someone with cancer to take pancreatic enzymes and B15 tablets with Laetrile (B17) for rapid destruction of cancer cells. Good Luck. CiroGet HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

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Absolutely, diet is essential. Also reducing toxic chemical which are the

source of free radicals which causes cancer is also essential. I conduct

seminars on toxic chemicals and have much info. If you are interested, let

me know.

Kay Heizer

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>

>Greeting from of the United States.

>

>I too have had cancer and am treating it in the best way I can find.

Finding

>is the problem.

>

>Cancer, like a splinter, isn't good for the body and must be removed...

>

>Removing is mechanical and doesn't change a thing within the body except

for

>the growth of the cancer which has been removed.

>

>Now, we need to work on that which caused the cancer. Well, now that again

>is an another problem.

>

>So now, where are we.

>

>To discover a diet and a lifestyle that prevents cancer from taking a foot

>hold within the body.

>

>In all of animal life, only the shark is relatively free of cancer. So, to

>find a solution to being cancer free is really a challenge.

>

>There are many to can give a solution, but few have the answer.

>

>Maybe one has to go back then we were first created. And again there will

be

>problems in this arena.

>

>After removal of this malady, like a splinter, we then need to address a

way

>of prevention.

>

>Raw foods, unprocessed foods, and most important, those foods that cause

the

>body to work in such a way that does not promote Peace from within.

>

>For an example.

>

>To eat fruits requires very little of the bodies energy to covert to

energy.

>

>To eat fats and proteins requires lots of work for the body to covert this

>substance to useful material for life.

>

>Therefore, we need to find a diet and a way of life that is good and

pleasant

>for the body and the mind and soul to survive.

>

>One needs to go back a long time ago where people enjoyed the food of

nature

>in natures way, and this may be the way of good health.

>

>Love,

>.

>

>Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

>

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Since some of the websites that gave information on the protocol for laetrile therapy are down, there are some books that discuss it, including Dr. Binzel's protocol in his book Alive and Well.

Alt Medicine Definitive Guide to Cancer lists doctors in the US who use this therapy.

World Without Cancer by G. is the bible on laetrile, but doesn't get into the protocol.

You can get these books at your local library, bookstore, or on line at www.realityzone.com or www.amazon.com

Melinda

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Hi Trisha: It's very important for someone with cancer to take pancreatic enzymes and B15 tablets with Laetrile (B17) for rapid destruction of cancer cells. Good Luck. CiroGet HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

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Hi

I don't know of any person directly in this country that has used it, but I have

seen reference to B17 on British websites so I assume it is available and people

are using it!

Sorry I can't be more helpful

Debbie

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>From: " " <Jwlk@...>

>Reply-cures for canceregroups

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>Subject: HELP

>Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 20:17:57 -0000

>

>Hi everyone,

>I am in desperate need of some personal opinions.

>I am tierd of my chemo and feelg sick all the time. I have been sick

>all my life with one thing or another.

>I have done 4 rounds of chemo and the last one was really brutal. I

>have developed an allergic reaction to the neupogen,,that was helping

>my immune stay strong through the chemo. Now I can`t have it. I

>talked to my onc and he has said that it is up to me if I want to

>finish, but he can`t guarentee me that the cancer is gone and if I

>don`t finish chemo and the cancer comes back, I am going to die from

>it. He says the kind I have is very aggressive ans only will respond

>to chemo once. So that leaves me with the choice of finish and have

>my immunity stripped from me completely and develop many illnesses

>for the time I have left, or stop and pray that the cancer is gone

>and do what I can to help myself.

>My mom has offered her house to me so I grow vegis and get away from

>the preasures of life. My mom is however very difficult to live with.

>My dad thinks I`m crazy not to finish since I have come this far and

>dosen`t understand the long term side affects of chemo. He just wants

>me to live, BUT I don`t want to live being sick all the time.

>My son says he wants me to finish because he does n`t want me to die.

>

>The doctors can`t guarentee tha tI won`t have a reoccurance even

>after chemo. And then I will surely die because I have no immune to

>fight anymore.

>

>PLEASE can anyone comment to help my confused mind come to a secure

>decision that I will be satisfied with and not feel like I am signing

>my own death warrent.

>I cry all the time I am a basket case.

>

>JULIE

Dear ,

I have been reading things from this webcite for a few weeks now. I also

have read a book called Comprehensive Cancer Care. This webcite offers a

actual person to ask questions of and the book gives a lot of information on

alternative treatments. Whether you have faith in alternative treatments

for a cure or not, all information I have seen shows that alternatives will

help with side effects. Based on the book I have been reading I would

recommend seeing an Acupuncturist who practices Chinese Medicine. That will

help with nausea, it will get your energy flowing, and increase your white

blood cell count which is an immune system boost. I don't have the web

cite, but do a search on line www.google.com and then search for TCM

practitioners(which is traditional chinese medicine). Most states have some

and it is convered by some insurance. Hope this helps

>

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From: " " <Jwlk@...>

Date sent: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 20:14:26 -0000

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Subject: HELP

> Hi everyone,

> I am in desperate need of some personal opinions.

> I am tierd of my chemo and feelg sick all the time. I have been sick

> all my life with one thing or another.

Hi,

A study in Japan found that when patients took Chlorella algae with

chemo they did

not experience as much sickness and their white blood cell count did not drop

as much

as controls.

My sister took Spirulina algae (6-8 grams a day) and beta glucan with her

chemo

and the doctors were surprised at her lack of sickness from the chemo.

moonbeam

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Hi. I was given this information by an Asian woman (who is over 100 years

old) and according to this information " Yun-zhi " (essence of mushroom ) is

very good for those who are taking chemo or radiation treatments. In fact,

it also saved one of her sons from dying of cancer. It comes from Hong Kong

but I don't know where to find it in the U.S.A. Ciro291@...

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Angie,

Just read your email, and have to respond, since you seem seriously confused

and powerless. I have just been " observing " on this list, and have never

responded, so I hope this is right and also gets to you.

I also am taking chemo, I have been getting weekly infusions since 081500,

the first round as well did not work. Then I got mad, which gave me power,

I am sick of being victim to this hideous disease. It not only robs you of

your life but also makes everyone else sick to see you sick. Just try to

" feel " normal when you look so bad all the time!!

First and most, I am not in control, but my Father is. Whatever His plan,

no questions asked. However after many hours of begging, praying,

bargaining, ( I have two small children, and my husband also has metatastic

disease, primary, a year apart, 4 yrs ago, then recurring the same month in

April, this year. He is currently in remission, our story is just plain

mind boggling!) God has given me the knowlege and the power for my Healing,

which He ultimately will be given all the Praise.

My disease has continued to spread, before this revelation, and now I have

mulitiple bone metastisis and liver disease. And I am FIGHTING MAD!!! The

spread is of the Dr.s lack of response, and wait and see attitude. Like you

don't know whats going on in your body. So, now I am stuck with a very

seriously damaged body.

I was given a message through a wonderful book written by a

naturopath/homeopath, who was diagnosed with leukemia with only 6 months to

live, ten years ago. Petrea King, A Handbook for people with life

threatening illness. Very well written, and has been a " handbook " for me to

help me keep my perspective. I HAVE TOO MUCH TO LIVE FOR, and am not going

to live ill, however long I have.

I am " healthy " and currently not on any pain meds, my goal is to live

longer, and with as little pain as possible.

The first thing I did, was to clean up my body, so I could support my

damaged organ (my liver) and try to regenerate new liver tissue and reverse

the cancer. Don't know if I can do anything about the bone mets but easy

excersise should keep the bones supported. My feeling is the liver disease

will kill you, the bone mets will only make you miserable. So, first step

take care of my liver.

Eliminated caffeine, salt, sugar, dairy, red meats, (6 or so protein serv

per week during chemo, deep sea fish, or range-free chicken), preservatives,

additives, all fats and any chemicals, plus as much distilled water I can

take in. Started juicing - 85% carrots/10% beet/10% dark leafy green veg (I

prefer collards, or broccoli is especially tasty!) 3 times per day! I

abounded with energy within a week!!! Backing my compromised immune system

with Flax Oil caps/6000 mg per day Schizandra caps/2320 mg per day

Ginger Root /1200 mg per day Echniacea (a must) Mulit-mineral Vitamin

Dandelian Root Tea/all day. And I also have Milk Thistle Plus/4500 mg per

day/but holding off until after chemo, because I'm not sure of the

anitoxidants interfering with chemo.

My rate of increase of disease was 75% last month. Took a tumor marker test

last week and the rate of increase has decreased by 50%!!! All in just 2

1/2 weeks. Plus, my kids have been sick all around me (with the usual

colds)! And I feel fabulous! Yes, I still have chemo side effects, but not

bad, the book is very usful. We are striving for QUALITY of life, as well

as a longer life. This of course along with FAITH, visualization,

meditation, and PEACE in your life, will help you be the best you can be

right now. God Bless, I hope this helps.

In Spirit,

Christi R.

HELP

>Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 20:17:57 -0000

>

>Hi everyone,

>I am in desperate need of some personal opinions.

>I am tierd of my chemo and feelg sick all the time. I have been sick

>all my life with one thing or another.

>I have done 4 rounds of chemo and the last one was really brutal. I

>have developed an allergic reaction to the neupogen,,that was helping

>my immune stay strong through the chemo. Now I can`t have it. I

>talked to my onc and he has said that it is up to me if I want to

>finish, but he can`t guarentee me that the cancer is gone and if I

>don`t finish chemo and the cancer comes back, I am going to die from

>it. He says the kind I have is very aggressive ans only will respond

>to chemo once. So that leaves me with the choice of finish and have

>my immunity stripped from me completely and develop many illnesses

>for the time I have left, or stop and pray that the cancer is gone

>and do what I can to help myself.

>My mom has offered her house to me so I grow vegis and get away from

>the preasures of life. My mom is however very difficult to live with.

>My dad thinks I`m crazy not to finish since I have come this far and

>dosen`t understand the long term side affects of chemo. He just wants

>me to live, BUT I don`t want to live being sick all the time.

>My son says he wants me to finish because he does n`t want me to die.

>

>The doctors can`t guarentee tha tI won`t have a reoccurance even

>after chemo. And then I will surely die because I have no immune to

>fight anymore.

>

>PLEASE can anyone comment to help my confused mind come to a secure

>decision that I will be satisfied with and not feel like I am signing

>my own death warrent.

>I cry all the time I am a basket case.

>

>JULIE

Dear ,

I have been reading things from this webcite for a few weeks now. I also

have read a book called Comprehensive Cancer Care. This webcite offers a

actual person to ask questions of and the book gives a lot of information on

alternative treatments. Whether you have faith in alternative treatments

for a cure or not, all information I have seen shows that alternatives will

help with side effects. Based on the book I have been reading I would

recommend seeing an Acupuncturist who practices Chinese Medicine. That will

help with nausea, it will get your energy flowing, and increase your white

blood cell count which is an immune system boost. I don't have the web

cite, but do a search on line www.google.com and then search for TCM

practitioners(which is traditional chinese medicine). Most states have some

and it is convered by some insurance. Hope this helps

>

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From: " Christi and Eugene Riggs " <riggs@...>

Date sent: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:27:08 -0800

Subject: Re: HELP

> I also am taking chemo, I have been getting weekly infusions since 081500,

> the first round as well did not work. Then I got mad, which gave me power,

> So, first step take care of my liver.

> Echniacea (a must)

> And I also have Milk Thistle Plus/4500 mg per

> day/but holding off until after chemo, because I'm not sure of the

> anitoxidants interfering with chemo.

> My rate of increase of disease was 75% last month.

> In Spirit,

> Christi R.

Hi,

Thanks for your information. I know you will continue to improve.

About the Echinacea, what variety do you take? Pallida, Purpurea or

Angustifolia. There

seems to exist some confusion ever which Echinacea variety is best.

I attended a herb lecture once where the expert speaker said, with Echinacea

Purpurea, only the root has sufficient actives to be usable, the leaf is not

suitable for use.

Whereas with Echinacea Angustifolia the whole plant, leaf and root can be used,

though

the root is always the best.

Yet in my local store many Echinacea liquids contain Purpurea leaf or whole

plant.

The milk thistle is always good for the liver.

moonbeam

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What do you guys think I should do about this? Bad mother!!!!!!! My eight month old just got in to the cat box. When I went over there he had a nice big terd covered in cat litter in his mouth. I washed out his mouth and stuck my finger in there to make him gag and washed his hands. I'm more worried about the litter than the poop.  The kitten is a baby and only kept in the house.  My baby seems fine in fact he was laughing at me. Any suggestions?

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At 03:14 PM 12/19/2000 EST, you wrote:

>What do you guys think I should do about this? Bad mother!!!!!!!

>My eight month old just got in to the cat box. When I went over there he

had

>a nice big terd covered in cat litter in his mouth.

>I washed out his mouth and stuck my finger in there to make him gag and

>washed his hands.

>I'm more worried about the litter than the poop.  The kitten is a baby and

>only kept in the house.  My baby seems fine in fact he was laughing at me.

>Any suggestions?

>

>

You need to find out what the litter is made of.

Call poison control hotline

Probably not a problem - but don't know what they put in that and they can

tell you.

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At 06:47 PM 12/19/2000 EST, you wrote:

>its likely just clay

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I wouldn't assume - there are perfumed ones and who knows what.

Read the bag and if any question call poison control.

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Give your baby either Silica 6x as a tissue salt or Calcarea Carbonica in a

1LM in distilled water succussed 5 or 7 times using 5 to 7 drops at least

once before you place him in bed for the night. He is going into the litter

because the smell of the clay is enticing him. The rubric in the Repertory

is under Food, desire, undigestable things. Pica is what it is about. I

doubt that there will be any clay incrusted poop for snack time after a few

doses of the Calc.Carb or the Silica. I would decide which remedy to use

after reading the Materia Medica....but I am sure that using both...one as a

LM and the other as a 6x tissue salt will not be a problem.

I can just image the look on your face as you discovered what he was

doing..... The joys of Motherhood....!!!!

Re: help

> At 03:14 PM 12/19/2000 EST, you wrote:

> >What do you guys think I should do about this? Bad mother!!!!!!!

> >My eight month old just got in to the cat box. When I went over there he

> had

> >a nice big terd covered in cat litter in his mouth.

> >I washed out his mouth and stuck my finger in there to make him gag and

> >washed his hands.

> >I'm more worried about the litter than the poop. The kitten is a baby and

> >only kept in the house. My baby seems fine in fact he was laughing at me.

> >Any suggestions?

> >

> >

>

> You need to find out what the litter is made of.

> Call poison control hotline

>

> Probably not a problem - but don't know what they put in that and they can

> tell you.

>

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In a message dated 2/28/01 2:22:10 PM GTB Standard Time, ducesixtytwo@...

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<< s a hospital visit, but he is

in a bit of pain. any natural remedies? >>

arnica-homeopathic remedy is all I can think of off hand.

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At 12:20 PM 02/28/2001 -0000, you wrote:

>i need some help, please.

>this morning my 8 month old crawled off of my bed and hit his mouth

>on our heat register! he bled i know for 10 mins! one part of his

>gums on the top (the front left) looks very light purple and i see

>where it tore. i do not think it warrants a hospital visit, but he is

>in a bit of pain. any natural remedies? things around the house to

>help? the bleeding has stopped, and he is sleeping. i though for sure

>it would affect his nursing but he nursed on both sides just fine

>about 15 mins after it happened.

>please mail me privately. thanks for reading !

>TIA

>luv

>jen

Sounds like he is doing fine! Poor baby and mom!

I would have given arnica homeopathically

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