MY INTRODUCTION

[Guest guest]

Hi Diane, and welcome to this great family. I'm 'the other ',

2. How confusing is that? My twins are boy/girl, Brett (ds) and

...just turned 3 March 13th. My is definitely the dominant one,

a pint-sized little tyrant sometimes. Brett is sooo tolerant ...but he has

learned to retaliate in the most creative ways. (Waiting for Em to lose

interest in a toy she has taken away from him, then oh so carefully

reclaiming the prize.)

Brett falls into the finicky eater category...his diet is very close to

several others I've seen posted. I hide his multivitamin in morning

oatmeal/milk with banana and honey or a touch of brown sugar. Yogurt is his

favorite (second only to ice cream). I'm trying to introduce more veggies,

but weight is certainly not a problem. He's strong as an ox. His

vocabulary is under 50 words(dad, nonny--for mom, juice, all done, yes, up,

down, please, more, etc), yet I know his comprehension is pretty good. He

uses several signs, but seems irritated that we try to encourage signs over

words at times. He is an absolute love, but also willful and sometimes

demanding. No where close to the intensity of , however. She is the

master of manipulation. My two older children are my lifesavers. They are

13 and 11 and great sports about pitching in when they see a need (always!).

Everyone's been match-making with their kids here...so I think we need to

start thinking about my Brett and your 's future...now that could be

confusing!

So glad you're here to share. I couldn't believe my luck when I stumbled

upon this egroup at onelist. I live in Oregon, so we're not too far apart.

2

Re: My Introduction

> Hi Diane and welcome to your whole clan. I am 1 (theres two of us)

> and I have twins Rudy (ds) & 13, & TJ 16 (soon to be 40!). There

> are wonderful people here that will uplift and encourage you and have

really

> broad shoulders to cry on. Great sounding boards too!!!! lol

> 1

>

>

> http://DSyndrome.com/Multiples

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome Diane! This list is great place to find information,love and support.

My name is and I have 22 month old {23 months in 2 days} boy/girl

twins. (DS) and Sloan Isis.

I also thought when I found out that Vinnie had DS that there was no one else

like me out there.I had heard of a set of twins in our area,but I couldn't find

them.

I found too through a bulletin board and then the list started and then

the club.I never imaged that there was SO many of us!

Vinnie and Sloan were born a month early.Vinnie's only medical problem was

duodenal astersia (narrowing of small intestines) he had surgery when he was

less than 24 hours old.Sloan came home at 11 days and Vinnie at 3 weeks.They

stay home with my husband ,during the day when I work and works at

night.

I look forward to hearing more about you and your family.I'm also in the

club.

~

[Guest guest]

Hi Gail,

I am struggling with the room thing too. and are still in the same

room, although their sleep patterns are different. sometimes screams in the

middle of the night and I literally have to crawl into the room to get him out

so won't wake up and see me. Oh the things we have to do. I want to put

and Adam together, but my husband doesn't think that is a good idea quite

yet. I might wait until turns four and then move the boys into the big room

and into her own room. We'll see!

and are just starting to play together more. basically tells

everyone that he is a big boy and is a " baby " . When Adam is not in the

picture the twins get along great. does however tease without mercy.

Because is so highly sensitive she just has to barely touch his hair and he

freaks out. is 's number one protector. He carries her backpack to

school and the pre school teachers tell me that he also helps her off with her

coat. I am trying to convince that needs to take care of herself, but

he just reminds me that she is a " baby " , until she pulls his hair then she is

" bad Emmi " .

Diane

mom to Adam 8 and (ds) 3 1/2

[Guest guest]

Welcome Diane, I am mom to 6 1/2(DS) and Dayton 22months

(DS). Hope you enjoy the list as much as I do.

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My Introduction

>Hi my name is Diane and I have three wonderful children, Adam 8 and

>boy/girl twins and (DS). The twins are 3 1/2. I am so

>excited that I happened upon the Multiples with Down Syndrome Club on

>. I have emailed H. several times and am finally getting

>around to introducing myself to everyone. It is so wonderful to know

>that there are so many sets of multiples out there where one or more

>has Down Syndrome. When and were born I thought that no

>one else could possibly be going through this. Now I know better.

>

> and are doing great. They were two months early and had

>alot of health problems in the beginning. had open heart

>surgery when she was only 3 months old and only a mere 6lbs. She has

>done remarkable. She is still a little peanut at 3 1/2 she has just

>hit 24lbs. Her twin is a wild man. He is your typical boy. The

>twins are both enrolled in the development preschool in our school

>district. is a little delayed on his speech, more than likely

>due to his prematurity. He also is very sensitive to his environment.

>I have to admit that my " typical " (not a word a particularly like)

>twin is a little harder to handle than his sister! And now a word

>about big brother Adam. He is the best. He loves his brother and

>sister and is very patient with them, which is alot to ask of an 8

>year old. Oh and I forgot to mention I have a fantastic husband,

>Fred ( a name you can't forget!). loves her daddy, I am

>basically chopped liver to her.

>

>I look forward to meeting all of you. I have seen several pic's on

>the site. All of the kids are so CUTE. I hope to have pic's of my

>clan posted soon.

>

>Diane

>

>P.S. Kim, Mom to Abby and . I live in Snohomish, we talked

>about 3 years ago right after your twins were born!

>

>

>

>

>

>http://DSyndrome.com/Multiples

>

>

[Guest guest]

Diane-Welcome to the group. I have three children-- (7) and

and Alyssa(DS) who are almost 14 months. I have just recently joined this

site but have enjoyed reading the e-mails that have been sent and find the

support and information irreplacable!

Fran

[Guest guest]

Can you explain a little more about the traction affect on the nerves as the

neurosurgeon might have described?

C.P.

On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 16:29:42 -0300, Scoliosis Treatmentegroups wrote:

> a neurosurgeon has indicated that I still have quite a bit of curvature

left and this may be causing a traction effect on the

> nerves.

>

> Leger

>

>

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My neurosurgeon describe the effect like this. He said that due to

the curvature, which he considered still very significant, the nerves

on the opposite side of the curve are held stretched slightly and

held tight like guitar strings rather that in a normal relax state.

Any movement on that area will aggravate the nerves like the

strumming on the strings. It seems to be a reasonable explaination as

I have pain in this area which cannot be explained otherwise. My

orthopaedic surgeon calls the pain bizarre. However nothing shows on

x-rays for this area yet if I use my left arm too much or move it the

wrong way I have severe pain there. However using my right arm does

not seem to aggravate it at all. He wasn't certain about it but he

did say that this was likely what was happening. He felt that due to

the still large curvature that nothing could be done to stop the pain.

> Can you explain a little more about the traction affect on the

nerves as the

> neurosurgeon might have described?

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol/,

was also told her leg pain was caused by the tightening of the nerves

over the apex of her lumbar curve. It's was about 56 deg. before surgery.

The nerves are not made to stretch and in fact they don't. So when they get

tight you get varied symptoms of pain, tingling, pressure, etc.

After surgery, 's leg pain went away and she could walk normally. Too

bad she got an infection in the lumbar incision and had to undergo another

surgery to clean things out. Her upper hooks had also pulled loose from T3

so they were cut off during the infection surgery. Last April she had

another surgery to add and extension to C6 and correct a high thoracic hump.

She is now fused from S1 to C6.

is now recovering slowly from the extension surgery and having

difficulty with pain control. Her Trapezoids are in chronic spasm and are

not responding to Neurontin, flexural, Norco, Dilaudid, vallium, or Zoloft.

She finally had an appointment with a pain clinic at Stanford Hospital and

will be switching to Oxycontin and Percoset. She's been on norco and

dilaudid for over a year and we suspect she has grown tolerant of them.

We are happy to answer questions and tell you more of our story.

Warm regards,

n

[Guest guest]

I was told that narcotics used in chronic pain management do not

cause toleration or addiction in most people. I am not sure if this

is true or not however I think that in my case I have not built up a

tolerance yet to MS Contin. In fact I think it provides the same

level of pain management as it did about the same as a year and a

half ago. Since I forget to take it once in a while I do notice that

I have slight withdrawal from it but nothing really severe. Mind you

I have never just quit it for a few days though.

One interesting problem is that I take a higher dose at night than in

the morning. I find that I have a lot of sweating and shaking about 2

hour before my next evening dose. A few people have commented that I

look pale and not well. However it passes quickly and I am back to

normal when I take the evening dose so perhaps I do have a slight

physical addiction to it.

I guess it depends on the person. While MS Contin helps a lot I do

get break through pain. I also notice that if I forget to take it I

more readily cause an inflamation problem more easily. I think that

the MS Contin probably relaxes the muscles. Without it I get plenty

of physical reminders that I have forgotten it.

[Guest guest]

HI,

I was on MS Contin for six months and while I certainly was not addicted to

it, there as a tolerance so that when I came off of it, I had to do it

slowly, which was no big deal. At the end, when I gave up the lowest dose, I

then had mild flu-like symptoms for about four days. That was a mild price

to pay for months of adequate pain relief. Also, when I went from 4

Neurontin doses per day to 3, I got dizzy every time I arose from a lying

down position, for about a week. Again, no big deal.

Bonnie

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Has your hip been hurting since the original surgery?

I had no pain in mine (they took bone from one of them, I think,

my parents don't remember) until this last year (30-some years

later) but I assumed it was from the pressure and strain of

the inflexible spine. (My muscles on both sides of my

lower back frequently go into spasms, and hurt a lot.)

NB

Scoliosis Treatmentegroups wrote:

> Hello everyone. First of all let me say I have renewed faith in the

progress of scoliosis treatment since finding this board. Everyones

support here has been an undescribeable blessing.

I had my first surgery in 1977 at the age of 13 for an S curve. The

surgery was posterior and they installed a Harrington Rod. 6 months

after the final cast came off, the rod broke due to a psuedoarthrosis

in the lower fusion. 6 years later I had the rod replaced and the

psuedoarthrosis fixed.

As most of you who had the surgery know, the pain from the bone graft

taken from the hip is more painful than the scoliosis every was...now

you would have hoped that during the second surgery they would use

the same hip...no such luck...the went ahead and ruined the other

one. My hips are generally the major source of my ongoing pain right

now. Additionally, I have extreme pain in my lower back right along

my spine which I'm finding out has to do with the one last good,

unfused, disc I have.

I am seeing a revision surgeon, Dr. Akbarnia, in San Diego in a few

weeks and I look forward to sharing my findings with people I know

understand!

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[Guest guest]

First of, let me say that since I haven't had an official diagnosis on what

is causing the pain, I can only speculate. Much of what I have read on this

board has helped me at least narrow it down.

The sources of my pain are narrowed to the following (based on opinions from

various doctors):

1. The bone grafts weakened the area that is expanded during child birth.

Although I had absolutely no pain during pregnancy, the birthing process

caused irreparable damage to that area which could be the cause of some

pain. In hind site, I should have had cesarean births.

2. I was not properly educated on the fact that since I only had one,

un-fused, lumbar disc remaining, I should be " kind " to it. After much

coaxing, I finally got a doctor to okay an MRI, but the rod made it

impossible to get any significant readings.

3. There has been some speculation that nerve endings are being aggravated

in the build up of scar tissue (this being the reason it took so many years

for the pain to develop).

Either way, exploratory surgery may be the logical next step since no one is

comfortable enough to give a definitive diagnosis.

Re: My introduction

Has your hip been hurting since the original surgery?

I had no pain in mine (they took bone from one of them, I think,

my parents don't remember) until this last year (30-some years

later) but I assumed it was from the pressure and strain of

the inflexible spine. (My muscles on both sides of my

lower back frequently go into spasms, and hurt a lot.)

NB

Scoliosis Treatmentegroups wrote:

> Hello everyone. First of all let me say I have renewed faith in the

progress of scoliosis treatment since finding this board. Everyones

support here has been an undescribeable blessing.

I had my first surgery in 1977 at the age of 13 for an S curve. The

surgery was posterior and they installed a Harrington Rod. 6 months

after the final cast came off, the rod broke due to a psuedoarthrosis

in the lower fusion. 6 years later I had the rod replaced and the

psuedoarthrosis fixed.

As most of you who had the surgery know, the pain from the bone graft

taken from the hip is more painful than the scoliosis every was...now

you would have hoped that during the second surgery they would use

the same hip...no such luck...the went ahead and ruined the other

one. My hips are generally the major source of my ongoing pain right

now. Additionally, I have extreme pain in my lower back right along

my spine which I'm finding out has to do with the one last good,

unfused, disc I have.

I am seeing a revision surgeon, Dr. Akbarnia, in San Diego in a few

weeks and I look forward to sharing my findings with people I know

understand!

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[Guest guest]

Interesting. I had terrible back labor pains when I lost a baby

at 6 mos.

With my son, I had to stay in bed for 6 months

(cervix problems), then had a cesarean (which was wonderful--no

pain, they put me out, you wake up and there's the baby, safe

and sound! So much for " natural childbirth " !)

One of my doctors felt the time in bed weakened things.

Probably they will not no until they do an MRI or surgery.

NB

Scoliosis Treatmentegroups wrote:

>

1. The bone grafts weakened the area that is expanded during child birth.

Although I had absolutely no pain during pregnancy, the birthing process

caused irreparable damage to that area which could be the cause of some

pain. In hind site, I should have had cesarean births.

2

[Guest guest]

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From: <babydue99@...>

I still have to reasearch the actual measles and mumps

> diseases before I make up my mind. I would appreciate any links on these

> diseases.

http://www.whaleto.freeserve.co.uk/vaccines/measles.html

http://www.whaleto.freeserve.co.uk/vaccines/mumps.html

> I have decided he is not getting that last HIB because all I have

> heard about the majority of kids that get it, get it before age one. Does

> anyone have any links about the above statement? I would like to show them

to

> dh. I look forward to getting to know you all!

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

My name is Sandi Ranallo. I have been a lurker for quite a while on

the scoliosis group. When I joined egroups, I decided to tell my

story. I was diagnosed with scoliosis in my early twenties. I am

now 56 years old. I had my first surgery in Jul 1998. I was fused

from S1-T3 with (I am not sure what kind of rods). After about 7

months, my top hooks pulled loose and I had to have surgery again in

Feb 99. I was then fused to C-6. Like , my trapezoids are in

spasm alot. I don't have alot of pain, but my back feels very heavy.

Dr. is Shelokov in Plano, TX, performed my surgery. I know I

should exercise more than I do, but it is so hard after working all

day as a Medical Records Technician. I am thinking of investing in

a

spa. Does anyone have one, and does it help?

Thanks,

Sandi R.

[Guest guest]

Sandi, I've used one a health clubs for years, and I'm having

one put in my backyard the end of this month. It helps a lot!

Has anyone bought one, and tried to take it off on taxes?

I've heard you used to be able to take it off as a medical

expense, but that the IRS is stricter now.

My house already had one of those Sauna units in one of my

bathrooms, and I bought one of those whirlpool units for my

bathtub, but neither one helped as much as the jacuzzi at

my health club.

NB

Scoliosis Treatmentegroups wrote:

> I am thinking of investing in

a

spa. Does anyone have one, and does it help?

Thanks,

Sandi R.

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[Guest guest]

I know a friend that put in a pool and took it off their taxes. My

daughter-in-law is an accountant, and she says you can.

> > I am thinking of investing in

> a

> spa. Does anyone have one, and does it help?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Sandi R.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I had a jacuzzi spa put right outside my family room about 7 years ago.

It really helps. I use it every night to help loosen my muscles and

help me sleep. It is worth every penny as I find " heat " the best for

me. I only use one side--and I start with neck jets and move over the

the lounge and back to get as much of my body as possible. I do not

stay in very long since I prefer to keep it very hot--about 107

degreees.

diane popiuk

lazyr@... wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> My name is Sandi Ranallo. I have been a lurker for quite a while on

> the scoliosis group. When I joined egroups, I decided to tell my

> story. I was diagnosed with scoliosis in my early twenties. I am

> now 56 years old. I had my first surgery in Jul 1998. I was fused

> from S1-T3 with (I am not sure what kind of rods). After about 7

> months, my top hooks pulled loose and I had to have surgery again in

> Feb 99. I was then fused to C-6. Like , my trapezoids are in

> spasm alot. I don't have alot of pain, but my back feels very heavy.

> Dr. is Shelokov in Plano, TX, performed my surgery. I know I

> should exercise more than I do, but it is so hard after working all

> day as a Medical Records Technician. I am thinking of investing in

> a

> spa. Does anyone have one, and does it help?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Sandi R.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I just replied to Sandy but to add to your comment...

In Canada, I was able to write approximately 15% off with a doctor's

note--not much, but at least something.

Also, I originally put in a regular size jacuzzi bathtub--but it just

didn't work--the jets are not in the right positions. The one I have

now probably sits 4-5, but it's mine--not a toy and I keep it hotter

than anyone else cares for--as I said I just use one side so that the

lid does not have to be lifted on and off.

diane p

wrdtech@... wrote:

>

> Sandi, I've used one a health clubs for years, and I'm having

> one put in my backyard the end of this month. It helps a lot!

>

> Has anyone bought one, and tried to take it off on taxes?

>

> I've heard you used to be able to take it off as a medical

> expense, but that the IRS is stricter now.

>

> My house already had one of those Sauna units in one of my

> bathrooms, and I bought one of those whirlpool units for my

> bathtub, but neither one helped as much as the jacuzzi at

> my health club.

>

> NB

> Scoliosis Treatmentegroups wrote:

> > I am thinking of investing in

> a

> spa. Does anyone have one, and does it help?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Sandi R.

>

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kristy

Welcome to the list! I don't want to questioning the fact that the dr

suggested surgery, but have you tried a second/third opinion? There are

different approaches to scoliosis surgery and one of the latest trends is

that they fuse only the major curve, and leave the compensating curve to

correct itself over time. This is a major breakthrough, as it eliminates a

long fusion in a lot of cases. The younger you are when you have this

surgery, the better chance you have of a good outcome (of the compensating

curve correcting itself). You are fortunate to have the major curve in the

thoracic area, because virtually no movement (twisting/bending) takes place

in this area. As soon as they fuse thoracic to lumbar (when the fusion

extends over T12-L1), you will not be allowed to twist or bend for some time

after surgery (this is regardless of how many vertebrae they fuse). The more

lumbar vertebrae they fuse, the more of our bending and twisting function we

loose. If only part of the lumbar spine is fused, you will get some back.

But if I were you, I would definitely try to find someone who are willing to

evaluate me and see if it isn't possible to fuse only part of the scoliosis

(thoracic). I know it is a big surgery and we sometimes feel we just want to

get it over and done with. But I truly believe it's worth trying half a

fusion and adding later, than having a long fusion and wondering if the

" partly fused scoliosis " might have worked. Being young you should try and

" save " those lumbar disks and vertebrae as long as possible, as they are the

main weight carriers and shock absorbers of your body. Once they are fused,

the impact moves from there to the Sacro Iliac joints, hips, knees and feet.

I don't mean to scare you, just trying to encourage you to seek a second

opinion and to look into the latest methods. You can look for a Scoliosis

Research Society dr in Australia here:

http://www.srs.org/htm/mbrlst/intnlmbrlst.htm

These are drs with a special interest in scoliosis. I am not a member and am

not paid to " advertise " them. It's just one place to start when you are

looking for someone with a special interest in Scoliosis, and the experience

and expertise in Scoliosis surgery that you would want for your surgeon.

What I have done in the past, is I have sent my x-rays by mail and got a

second opinion that way. Just a thought...Good luck with your upcoming

surgery-

Take care

Sanette

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Hi Sanette...

Actually, the technique of fusing only the major curve has been around

for quite a while. Unfortunately, at least until now, I believe there

is no way of predicting which of the patients will have their

compensatory curve(s) self correct. And, if the compensatory curve does

not self correct, the patient is usually left with an unbalanced spine.

My surgeon offered the option of fusing only the major curve, and

risking an unbalanced spine and additional surgery, or fusing both

curves in the initial surgery. Since I didn't want to take the risk of

having additional surgery at that time, I chose to have him fuse both

curves.

I believe you're absolutely correct in that longer fusions are much

tougher on the patient than shorter ones. You have a good argument for

opting for fusion of only the major curve. If I were to do it over

again, I MIGHT rethink my decision. As we've all said so many times,

we're all very different, and can only know what's right for each of us.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

, Thank you for writing your scoliosis story - I was wondering what

your 'gray area' curve was when you all decided to wait on having surgery -

my son has a 40 degree thoracolumbar curve - he is 15 and in the bracing

stage of treatment - he just couldn't wear a TLSO to school and is now in a

Providence nighttinme bending brace - I just wonder what the inevitibility of

surgery is for him which is why I wondered what your curves were when you

made the not-now surgery decision. thank you for your response,

[Guest guest]

Hi!

Well, I've been living in Alaska for 3 years. I'm right near Anchorage, so

it's not COMPLETELY barbaric. It's better to just visit, though.

Dee

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>Reply-egroups

>egroups

>Subject: Re: My introduction

>Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 18:15:42 -0400

>

>At 12:33 PM 10/5/2000 +0000, you wrote:

> >First let me say that I'm new to this egroup thing, so I hope I'm not

> >breaking any rules or traditions, I just wanted to introduce myself. My

> >name is Dee, I currently live in Alaska, but am from New England. I'm

>26,

> >and Married, no kids.

>

>Hi Dee,

> Welcome to the list. We're glad to have you join. I've always

>dreamed of going to Alaska. Someday, I hope to get there, even if it's

>just for a vacation. Such a beautiful place.

>

> > I read the description and some of the archives for

> >this group, and it looks like a great bunch of people, dealing with

>really

> >hard issues but supporting each other. Just what I have been looking

>for.

>

> This group is great. Sure we have our ups and downs, but we're all

>here to help each other.

>

> > Worse that that, though, is the loneliness of living

> >way up here with very few friends, and certainly no one who understands

>my

> >health issues.

>

> How long have you been in Alaska?

>

> >Thank the powers above for the Internet, even up here in the

> >Boonies! Okay, that's enough about me, just wanted to say hi, and I'm

>glad

> >I found you all.

>

> We're glad you found us.

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HA! Don't move here, it's all a big snowy trap, that you can never escape

from! But seriously, it's nice here, just lonely. Better to visit than

live here. But I'm close to a " major " city, so it's not too bad. Glad to

find other people my age here, though. I see there's lots of lively

discussions going on. And how come you smiled after saying no kids?

Afraid of them? hehe

Dee

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>Subject: Re: My introduction

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>HEHE Welcome Dee!

>Its funny that you should arrive on the list at exactally the same time my

>hubby and i had been talking about moving to alaska. ( we decided no cause

>of family) we also live in New England.

>I am 25 married and no kids.

>SO welcome!

>Melinda

> My introduction

>

>

>Hello all,

>First let me say that I'm new to this egroup thing, so I hope I'm not

>breaking any rules or traditions, I just wanted to introduce myself. My

>name is Dee, I currently live in Alaska, but am from New England. I'm 26,

>and Married, no kids. I read the description and some of the archives for

>this group, and it looks like a great bunch of people, dealing with really

>hard issues but supporting each other. Just what I have been looking for.

>

>I have been a victim of depression ( my shrink calls it Subversive

>Depression) and CFS, as well as some back troubles ever since I was a

>teenager. (I'm not a VICTIM of them any longer, but I still have them,

>there's a differance). Worse that that, though, is the loneliness of

>living

>way up here with very few friends, and certainly no one who understands my

>health issues. Thank the powers above for the Internet, even up here in

>the

>Boonies! Okay, that's enough about me, just wanted to say hi, and I'm

>glad

>I found you all.

>

>Dee

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HEHE Welcome Dee!

Its funny that you should arrive on the list at exactally the same time my

hubby and i had been talking about moving to alaska. ( we decided no cause

of family) we also live in New England.

I am 25 married and no kids.

SO welcome!

Melinda

My introduction

Hello all,

First let me say that I'm new to this egroup thing, so I hope I'm not

breaking any rules or traditions, I just wanted to introduce myself. My

name is Dee, I currently live in Alaska, but am from New England. I'm 26,

and Married, no kids. I read the description and some of the archives for

this group, and it looks like a great bunch of people, dealing with really

hard issues but supporting each other. Just what I have been looking for.

I have been a victim of depression ( my shrink calls it Subversive

Depression) and CFS, as well as some back troubles ever since I was a

teenager. (I'm not a VICTIM of them any longer, but I still have them,

there's a differance). Worse that that, though, is the loneliness of living

way up here with very few friends, and certainly no one who understands my

health issues. Thank the powers above for the Internet, even up here in the

Boonies! Okay, that's enough about me, just wanted to say hi, and I'm glad

I found you all.

Dee

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