Weight loss

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That's great advice, Alobar. I would only add that a raw vegan diet may be

especially good for weight loss, as the body has a harder time extracting all

the calories from foods that haven't been broken down by cooking. The fat vegans

I know eat excessive amounts of sugars and cooked starches.

> > just to clarify - i was asking about weight loss on coconut oil not for a

discussion on my eating preferences!

> > any thoughts on weight loss with coconut oil would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > katie

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Would defer to experts on this forum for child dosages........

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> From: margretdzn@... <margretdzn@...>

> Subject: Re: weight loss

> Coconut Oil

> Date: Wednesday, 27 January, 2010, 15:07

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> I added coco oil to my diet quite a while ago and can't say I've

> experienced any weight loss solely due to the coco. oil......

> I started adding coco oil for it's overall healthy benefits, but want to

> add---I have used HCG for weight loss and belong to few groups on ,

> know personally many people who use/have used it---it's a strict low calorie

> diet for period of time without oils/fats--- they tried a coco oil experiment

> while ago and many people found their WEIGHT LOSS INCREASED with addition

> of about 1 TB coco. oil daily.....not with all people, but a good amount,

> SEEMED TO BE AN INDIVIDUAL THING.....

> also on that diet and as usual with many diets, after a period of time you

> " stall " with the weight loss, and it has been found that a little coco.

> oil seemed to jumpstart the weight loss again in most people, but again, an

> individual thing......

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> I have experienced weight gain from too much coco oil.........

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> Blessings, Margaret

> " We are not held back by the love we didn't receive in the past, but by

> the love we're not extending in the present. "

> nne on

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I have reduced my intake of amount of Iodoral, and have not taken any the past few days. I have noticed some weight loss. I have decided that I will take much lower doses od Iodoral since I began taking it to shrink my fibroids but they have not reduced in size. I think I am doing better on the Chinese herbs rather than the iodoral. My thyroid seems to be doing better in the herbs and off of the Iodoral. I will see how I do going forward. perhaps I well get back to taking it.

Jag

This is an area I am just learning about.Although NAET has helped with weight loss, I am stillnot optimal and it will be a while til I can afford to get ridof all of my food allergies through NAET.Meanwhile my doctor suggested we test my growth hormone,that it decreases over time and that could be contributing to to why my body holds on to fat.And to read the book Ultra Metabolism by Mark Hymenand to get my amalgan fillings removed, as that too cancontribute to weight gain.Anyone familiar with these areas of expertise?Because there is this belief that Hypothyroidism makes one fat.But now after being on iodine for about two years and now havingalmost optimal thyroid hormone, I have not loss the majority of myweight. And the search continues... .Ali

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You are lucky...After gaining weight and getting up to 25 mg, I stopped iodine

for a week and then took only 12.5 or 15 mg every other day for about a month,

and I think I may have even gained a little weight!

Sherry

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> This is an area I am just learning about.

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> Although NAET has helped with weight loss, I am still

> not optimal and it will be a while til I can afford to get rid

> of all of my food allergies through NAET.

>

> Meanwhile my doctor suggested we test my growth hormone,

> that it decreases over time and that could be contributing to

> to why my body holds on to fat.

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> And to read the book Ultra Metabolism by Mark Hymen

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> and to get my amalgan fillings removed, as that too can

> contribute to weight gain.

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> Anyone familiar with these areas of expertise?

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> Because there is this belief that Hypothyroidism makes one fat.

> But now after being on iodine for about two years and now having

> almost optimal thyroid hormone, I have not loss the majority of my

> weight. And the search continues... .

> Ali

>

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I agree Donna. Many come here thinking that if they can get their thyroid functioning and iodine being part of this that all will be well and they will lose weight. I am finding it is so much more complex than that. Maybe in years prior to those we live in this was the case but now we are dealing with environmental toxins, toxins in our foods, chemical preservatives, vaccinations that poison us with more preservatives and the list goes on. Not many people will work to detox their bodies on a regular basis to year after year it piles up.

I have been struggling with the weight issue and what I am finding / figuring out is interesting. I recently did a metabolic typing test. I did this one http://www.metabolictyping.com/ Dr Mercola offers one too that is $10 cheaper http://products.mercola.com/nutritional-typing/?aid=CD94 I am finding that when I eat this way I feel a lot better. No more fatigue and less cravings for carbs and coffee. I need to get my adrenals in line but I think eating the wrong foods was taxing them. I have read that once you get the right foods in your body it will heal and you will naturally lose weight. I just did this test on Saturday so I haven't done it for a long time. I have added potassium to my diet too which is helping to balance the sodium intake.

If anyone else decides to try this let me know. I would like to know how anyone else feels.

RE: Re: Weight loss

Remember the purpose of iodine is to get your body healthy. It took a year of iodine before I was able to start losing the weight I had been gradually gaining for 5 years. Your body needs to get running properly and detox. The more I did the salt vit C for detox, the more I cleared out toxins, and finally have been able to lose weight, but still have to work at it, exercise and healthy eating. Gaining weight in the short term is well worth it to get better health.

Donna in IL

You are lucky...After gaining weight and getting up to 25 mg, I stopped iodine for a week and then took only 12.5 or 15 mg every other day for about a month, and I think I may have even gained a little weight!Sherry

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Donna, what do you mean the more you did salt and vitamin c the more toxins came out? Did you do 1 teaspoon of salt in water and then the 12 ounces of water after with the vitamin c/ or did you do more? How much vitamin c did you take and did you start at one dose and increase it? I do the salt in the morning with the iodine and companion nutrients. The salt makes upsets my stomach. I am swollen and retaining fluid. It makes me have a BM and a little urination but not a lot of urine. I also do two coffee enemas a week for detox. I really am getting frustrated here.

Pam

From: Donna Iler <Donna@...>Subject: RE: Re: Weight loss"iodine " <iodine >Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 7:51 AM

Remember the purpose of iodine is to get your body healthy. It took a year of iodine before I was able to start losing the weight I had been gradually gaining for 5 years. Your body needs to get running properly and detox. The more I did the salt vit C for detox, the more I cleared out toxins, and finally have been able to lose weight, but still have to work at it, exercise and healthy eating. Gaining weight in the short term is well worth it to get better health.

Donna in IL

You are lucky...After gaining weight and getting up to 25 mg, I stopped iodine for a week and then took only 12.5 or 15 mg every other day for about a month, and I think I may have even gained a little weight!Sherry> > > > Â > > > > This is an area I am just learning about.>

> Although NAET has helped with weight loss, I am still> not optimal and it will be a while til I can afford to get rid> of all of my food allergies through NAET.> > Meanwhile my doctor suggested we test my growth hormone,> that it decreases over time and that could be contributing to > to why my body holds on to fat.> > And to read the book Ultra Metabolism by Mark Hymen> > and to get my amalgan fillings removed, as that too can> contribute to weight gain.> > Anyone familiar with these areas of expertise?> > Because there is this belief that Hypothyroidism makes one fat.> But now after being on iodine for about two years and now having> almost optimal thyroid hormone, I have not loss the majority of my> weight. And the search continues... .> Ali>

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Pam try adding potassium to balance out the

sodium, magnesium and calcium play a part as well.

If you have too much estrogen try a little

progesterone cream. And you need more water during

the day not just the 12 oz following the salt water.

Main causes of water retention are:

Decreased kidney function

Liver overload in detoxing, or diabetes, and

chronic liver problems

Hormone imbalances: Too much estrogen, not enough

progesterone to balance, low thyroid hormones.

High Cortisol. Low vassopressin. Angiotensin

problems. aldosterone, yada yada yada. Steroid

use, cortisone, hydrocortisone

Electrolyte imbalances: not enough potassium to

balance sodium, not enough magnesium and calcium

in relation to sodium and potassium.

Dehydration will cause the body to hang on to

water rather than get rid of it. So contrary to

what you'd think drink more water rather than

less. If you drink caffeinated beverages you need

more water yet, as they are diuretic in nature.

And last but not least high blood glucose will

cause the body to retain water to dilute the

glucose then cause you to urinate more often to

get rid of the glucose overload, that causes

dehydration and it's a vicious circle. That's why

diabetics are thirsty all the time. The body is

fighting to balance the blood glucose. Too little

insulin causes the glucose not to be stored as fat

so it sits in the blood with nowhere to go. In

this case the diabetic will lose a lot of weight

because the body is starving, and it uses the fat

stores for fuel, and therefor you get ketosis. The

glucose isn't being used by the cells because the

cells have become so resistant to insulin, or the

pancreas isn't making enough. Or conversely some

diabetics gain a load of weight very quickly due

to the pancreas pumping out more insulin because

the cells are insensitive and are not using the

glucose, so the higher the blood glucose rises

because the cells are not using it, the more

insulin is pumped out by the pancreas and the

insulin stores the excess glucose as fat as fast

as it can to balance the blood sugar levels.

That probably ain't all folks but they're probably

the most common reasons for dehydration and water

retention. And I probably left out some. There's

also central diabetes mellitus which is due to

very low vassopressin. Where a person is thirsty

all the time and drinks and drinks and pees and

pees. That one is not as common though.

Bethann

" The greatest enemy of knowledge is not

ignorance...it is the illusion of knowledge "

~ Hawking

Pamela Olson wrote:

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> Donna, what do you mean the more you did salt and vitamin c the more

> toxins came out? Did you do 1 teaspoon of salt in water and then the 12

> ounces of water after with the vitamin c/ or did you do more? How much

> vitamin c did you take and did you start at one dose and increase it? I

> do the salt in the morning with the iodine and companion nutrients. The

> salt makes upsets my stomach. I am swollen and retaining fluid. It

> makes me have a BM and a little urination but not a lot of urine. I

> also do two coffee enemas a week for detox. I really am getting

> frustrated here.

> Pam

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> From: Donna Iler <Donna@Master- Solutions. com>

> Subject: RE: Re: Weight loss

> " iodine@groups .com " <iodinegroups (DOT) com>

> Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 7:51 AM

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> Remember the purpose of iodine is to get your body healthy. It took

> a year of iodine before I was able to start losing the weight I had

> been gradually gaining for 5 years. Your body needs to get running

> properly and detox. The more I did the salt vit C for detox, the

> more I cleared out toxins, and finally have been able to lose

> weight, but still have to work at it, exercise and healthy eating.

> Gaining weight in the short term is well worth it to get better health.

>

> Donna in IL

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> You are lucky...After gaining weight and getting up to 25 mg, I

> stopped iodine for a week and then took only 12.5 or 15 mg every

> other day for about a month, and I think I may have even gained a

> little weight!

>

> Sherry

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> > Â

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> > This is an area I am just learning about.

> >

> > Although NAET has helped with weight loss, I am still

> > not optimal and it will be a while til I can afford to get rid

> > of all of my food allergies through NAET.

> >

> > Meanwhile my doctor suggested we test my growth hormone,

> > that it decreases over time and that could be contributing to

> > to why my body holds on to fat.

> >

> > And to read the book Ultra Metabolism by Mark Hymen

> >

> > and to get my amalgan fillings removed, as that too can

> > contribute to weight gain.

> >

> > Anyone familiar with these areas of expertise?

> >

> > Because there is this belief that Hypothyroidism makes one fat.

> > But now after being on iodine for about two years and now having

> > almost optimal thyroid hormone, I have not loss the majority of my

> > weight. And the search continues... .

> > Ali

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I switched to the paleolithic diet, reversed arthritis and eliminated chronic muscle pain and stiffness and lost about 15 pounds without ever being hungry. My energy has increased, my hair is growing, and my eyebrows and coming back in. There's little point in supplementing with anything if people aren't willing to improve their diet. It's a nice idea that health can be found in a pill, but it's futile.Joannewww.joanneunleashed.comOn Apr 7, 2010, at 10:31 AM, iodine wrote:I have read that once you get the right foods in your body it will heal and you will naturally lose weight.

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Thanks, how much potassium should I take?> > > From: Donna Iler <Donna@Master- Solutions. com>> Subject: RE: Re: Weight loss> "iodine@groups .com" <iodine@groups . com>> Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 7:51 AM> > > > Remember the purpose of

iodine is to get your body healthy. It took> a year of iodine before I was able to start losing the weight I had> been gradually gaining for 5 years. Your body needs to get running> properly and detox. The more I did the salt vit C for detox, the> more I cleared out toxins, and finally have been able to lose> weight, but still have to work at it, exercise and healthy eating.> Gaining weight in the short term is well worth it to get better health.> > Donna in IL> > > > You are lucky...After gaining weight and getting up to 25 mg, I> stopped iodine for a week and then took only 12.5 or 15 mg every> other day for about a month, and I think I may have even gained a> little weight!> > Sherry> > > >> >> >> > Â > >> >> >> > This is an area I am just learning about.> >> > Although NAET has helped with weight loss, I am still> > not

optimal and it will be a while til I can afford to get rid> > of all of my food allergies through NAET.> >> > Meanwhile my doctor suggested we test my growth hormone,> > that it decreases over time and that could be contributing to> > to why my body holds on to fat.> >> > And to read the book Ultra Metabolism by Mark Hymen> >> > and to get my amalgan fillings removed, as that too can> > contribute to weight gain.> >> > Anyone familiar with these areas of expertise?> >> > Because there is this belief that Hypothyroidism makes one fat.> > But now after being on iodine for about two years and now having> > almost optimal thyroid hormone, I have not loss the majority of my> > weight. And the search continues... .> > Ali> >> >

[Guest guest]

That's hard to say, you'll probably have to fiddle

with it a bit and find out what your balance is

unless you get your electrolytes tested. I bought

a pound of potassium bicarb and take anywhere from

a half teaspoon to a teaspoon dissolved in water

every day depending on the types of potassium

foods I eat every day. Just start with a low dose

for a few days and see what happens and then

increase slowly. But you'll need to keep your

magnesium and calcium balanced as well. Probably

more the magnesium than the calcium as most people

get way more calcium than magnesium.

But if you want to detox properly the electrolytes

have got to be balanced.

If you get headaches and muscle cramps that can be

a sign of electrolyte imbalance as well as

dehydration. And dehydration can cause depression,

tiredness, lethargy, and weakness as well.

Nerve conduction and muscle function require

sodium, potassium, magnesium, and calcium.

Some people experience higher pulse rates when

electrolytes are unbalanced, and high blood

pressure, fuzzy thinking, brain fog, muscle cramps

and weakness, tingling, etc., etc.

I can always tell when I need more magnesium and

potassium because my pulse rate rises to more than

70 bpm. When my electrolytes are good my resting

pulse rate is around 60-65 bpm.

Sodium sensitive folks can sometimes lower their

BP just by increasing their potassium and

magnesium intake to offset the sodium.

Bethann

" The greatest enemy of knowledge is not

ignorance...it is the illusion of knowledge "

~ Hawking

Pamela Olson wrote:

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> Thanks, how much potassium should I take?

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> > From: Donna Iler <Donna@Master- Solutions. com>

> > Subject: RE: Re: Weight loss

> > " iodine@groups .com " <iodine@groups . com>

> > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 7:51 AM

> >

> >

> >

> > Remember the purpose of iodine is to get your body healthy. It took

> > a year of iodine before I was able to start losing the weight I had

> > been gradually gaining for 5 years. Your body needs to get running

> > properly and detox. The more I did the salt vit C for detox, the

> > more I cleared out toxins, and finally have been able to lose

> > weight, but still have to work at it, exercise and healthy eating.

> > Gaining weight in the short term is well worth it to get better

> health.

> >

> > Donna in IL

> >

> >

> >

> > You are lucky...After gaining weight and getting up to 25 mg, I

> > stopped iodine for a week and then took only 12.5 or 15 mg every

> > other day for about a month, and I think I may have even gained a

> > little weight!

> >

> > Sherry

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> > > Â

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This is an area I am just learning about.

> > >

> > > Although NAET has helped with weight loss, I am still

> > > not optimal and it will be a while til I can afford to get rid

> > > of all of my food allergies through NAET.

> > >

> > > Meanwhile my doctor suggested we test my growth hormone,

> > > that it decreases over time and that could be contributing to

> > > to why my body holds on to fat.

> > >

> > > And to read the book Ultra Metabolism by Mark Hymen

> > >

> > > and to get my amalgan fillings removed, as that too can

> > > contribute to weight gain.

> > >

> > > Anyone familiar with these areas of expertise?

> > >

> > > Because there is this belief that Hypothyroidism makes one fat.

> > > But now after being on iodine for about two years and now having

> > > almost optimal thyroid hormone, I have not loss the majority of my

> > > weight. And the search continues... .

> > > Ali

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Is potassium bicarb baking soda?> >> >> > From: Donna Iler <Donna@Master- Solutions. com>> > Subject: RE: Re: Weight loss> > "iodine@groups .com" <iodine@groups . com>> > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 7:51 AM> >> >> >> > Remember the purpose of iodine is to get your body healthy. It took> > a year of iodine before I was able to start losing the weight I had> > been gradually gaining for 5 years. Your body needs to get running> > properly and detox. The more I did the salt vit C for detox, the> > more I cleared out toxins, and finally have been able to lose>

> weight, but still have to work at it, exercise and healthy eating.> > Gaining weight in the short term is well worth it to get better> health.> >> > Donna in IL> >> >> >> > You are lucky...After gaining weight and getting up to 25 mg, I> > stopped iodine for a week and then took only 12.5 or 15 mg every> > other day for about a month, and I think I may have even gained a> > little weight!> >> > Sherry> >> > > > >> >

>> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > > This is an area I am just learning about.> > >> > > Although NAET has helped with weight loss, I am still> > > not optimal and it will be a while til I can afford to get rid> > > of all of my food allergies through NAET.> > >> > > Meanwhile my doctor suggested we test my growth hormone,> > > that it decreases over time and that could be contributing to> > > to why my body holds on to fat.> > >> > > And to read the book Ultra Metabolism by Mark Hymen> > >> > > and to get my amalgan fillings removed, as that too can> > > contribute to weight gain.> > >> > > Anyone familiar with these areas of expertise?> > >> > > Because

there is this belief that Hypothyroidism makes one fat.> > > But now after being on iodine for about two years and now having> > > almost optimal thyroid hormone, I have not loss the majority of my> > > weight. And the search continues... .> > > Ali> > >> >> >> >

[Guest guest]



No that's sodium bicarbonate.

Steph

RE: Re: Weight loss> > "iodine@groups .com" <iodine@groups . com>> > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 7:51 AM> >> >> >> > Remember the purpose of iodine is to get your body healthy. It took> > a year of iodine before I was able to start losing the weight I had> > been gradually gaining for 5 years. Your body needs to get running> > properly and detox. The more I did the salt vit C for detox, the> > more I cleared out toxins, and finally have been able to lose> > weight, but still have to work at it, exercise and healthy eating.> > Gaining weight in the short term is well worth it to get better> health.> >> > Donna in IL> >> >> >> > You are lucky...After gaining weight and getting up to 25 mg, I> > stopped iodine for a week and then took only 12.5 or 15 mg every> > other day for about a month, and I think I may have even gained a> > little weight!> >> > Sherry> >> > > > >> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > > This is an area I am just learning about.> > >> > > Although NAET has helped with weight loss, I am still> > > not optimal and it will be a while til I can afford to get rid> > > of all of my food allergies through NAET.> > >> > > Meanwhile my doctor suggested we test my growth hormone,> > > that it decreases over time and that could be contributing to> > > to why my body holds on to fat.> > >> > > And to read the book Ultra Metabolism by Mark Hymen> > >> > > and to get my amalgan fillings removed, as that too can> > > contribute to weight gain.> > >> > > Anyone familiar with these areas of expertise?> > >> > > Because there is this belief that Hypothyroidism makes one fat.> > > But now after being on iodine for about two years and now having> > > almost optimal thyroid hormone, I have not loss the majority of my> > > weight. And the search continues... .> > > Ali> > >> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

Nope that's sodium bicarb..That would be adding to

your sodium levels instead of balancing them:)

Potassium Bicarb is the bicarbonate yes, but with

potassium added instead of sodium. It also

alkalizes the body:) So you're killing two birds

with one stone:)

Bethann

" The greatest enemy of knowledge is not

ignorance...it is the illusion of knowledge "

~ Hawking

Pamela Olson wrote:

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> Is potassium bicarb baking soda?

>

>

> > >

> > >

> > > From: Donna Iler <Donna@Master- Solutions. com>

> > > Subject: RE: Re: Weight loss

> > > " iodine@groups .com " <iodine@groups . com>

> > > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 7:51 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Remember the purpose of iodine is to get your body healthy. It took

> > > a year of iodine before I was able to start losing the weight I had

> > > been gradually gaining for 5 years. Your body needs to get running

> > > properly and detox. The more I did the salt vit C for detox, the

> > > more I cleared out toxins, and finally have been able to lose

> > > weight, but still have to work at it, exercise and healthy eating.

> > > Gaining weight in the short term is well worth it to get better

> > health.

> > >

> > > Donna in IL

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > You are lucky...After gaining weight and getting up to 25 mg, I

> > > stopped iodine for a week and then took only 12.5 or 15 mg every

> > > other day for about a month, and I think I may have even gained a

> > > little weight!

> > >

> > > Sherry

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > This is an area I am just learning about.

> > > >

> > > > Although NAET has helped with weight loss, I am still

> > > > not optimal and it will be a while til I can afford to get rid

> > > > of all of my food allergies through NAET.

> > > >

> > > > Meanwhile my doctor suggested we test my growth hormone,

> > > > that it decreases over time and that could be contributing to

> > > > to why my body holds on to fat.

> > > >

> > > > And to read the book Ultra Metabolism by Mark Hymen

> > > >

> > > > and to get my amalgan fillings removed, as that too can

> > > > contribute to weight gain.

> > > >

> > > > Anyone familiar with these areas of expertise?

> > > >

> > > > Because there is this belief that Hypothyroidism makes one fat.

> > > > But now after being on iodine for about two years and now having

> > > > almost optimal thyroid hormone, I have not loss the majority

> of my

> > > > weight. And the search continues... .

> > > > Ali

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well said Joanne, and a great testimony! So true on the last comment.

Thank you

Bruce

Re: Weight loss

I switched to the paleolithic diet, reversed arthritis and eliminated chronic muscle pain and stiffness and lost about 15 pounds without ever being hungry. My energy has increased, my hair is growing, and my eyebrows and coming back in.

There's little point in supplementing with anything if people aren't willing to improve their diet. It's a nice idea that health can be found in a pill, but it's futile.

Joanne

www.joanneunleashed.com

On Apr 7, 2010, at 10:31 AM, iodine wrote:

I have read that once you get the right foods in your body it will heal and you will naturally lose weight.

[Guest guest]

Just taking iodine is not enough although it helps . You need to look at the total picture and what other factors affect the endocrine system.

Two big contributors to weight gain are SOY and CORN. Both are used to fatten farm animals before slaughter. Both are the major crops in America and packed into virtually every boxed, packed, bottled, wrapped and canned food (along with high fructose corn syrup) making the food growers huge profits (hence the reason to put it in everything) while making Americans sick. Soy (and most corn)is estrogenic.

Plant and chemical estrogens will affect the thyroid and adrenals. You must reduce estrogen dominance. Loading with iodine gives some 'protection', but other things can block iodine uptake, as you will read further down.

Estrogens readily diffuse across cell membranes.

Plant estrogens (with a half life of hours) are:

* Flax oil, Canola oil/rapeseed oil

* Cottonseed oil (also known as Olestra in the states)

* Coffee, chamomile, licorice

* Alphalfa sprouts, sunflower seeds

* Pomegranate, hops

*Soy (any word soy in the ingredient list including soy extract, soy casienate, soy lactate, soy protein, textured vegetable protein, soybean oil, soya sauce, Soy extract, soy flour, vegetable gum, hydrolyzed veg. protein, lethicin, bean curd, tofu.)

*Fungally infected corn is estrogenic. Corns other names are: maize, cornstarch, dextrose, citric acid, invert syrup, corn syrup, zanthan gum, methylcellulose, vegetable oil, zea. Corn is also in caramel color, aspartame, and artificial flavor.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC546954/

Xenoestrogens (half life of decades.) These have greater effects than even human estrogen does at lower values:

*Chlorine in tap drinking water and absorption from showers, pools, and hot tubs

* Parabens in lotions

* Benzophenone in perfume and soaps

* Bisphenol A in plastics

* Phalates in cosmetics,nonphenol/ octyphenol in detergents

* Teflon coated pans

* Propyl gallate- preserves fats/liquid oils from spoiling

* BHA/BHT - preservative in cereals and other foods

* Tagamet

* Atrazine,edosulfan,toxophene,malathion (sprayed on crops and weeds)

All that excess estrogen feeds gut yeast, which is HORMONE dependant.

Although iodine gives us some protection, Chlorine depletes iodine. These substances block iodine receptors: phosphoric acid (sodas),percholate, which is a rocket fuel (found in human and animal milk,water) Splenda, bromine (all baked goods, hot tubs, asthma inhalers) and heavy metals.

As far as weight loss, another contributor to weight gain is UNsaturated fats, as they suppress metabolic rate, creating hypothyroidism. Coconut oil helps create progesterone which opposes estrogen dominance, and, Coconut oil will increase metabolism.

Decreasing grains in the diet will help you loose weight, and buy GRASS fed, not grain fed, meat. Chlorine filters help but ensure you put magnesium and other minerals back into your body if they are taken out of your water supply by a filter.

I say shame on the FDA, USDA, AFA or whoever it was (a group in cahoots with each other) that created the food pyramid with it's heavy influx of grains. What a sham on the American public. Grain consumption is encouraged for PROFITS, not for our health. Grains deplete so many minerals and vitamins. Soy is loaded with aluminum, corn (syrup) loaded in mercury, and soy forms MSG (an excitotoxin) during it's processing. Soy is a more powerful inhibitor of TPO than common anti thyroid drugs.

http://www.rense.com/general18/darkside.htm

Lastly, the idea that the body traps and stores heavy metals in fat, might be another reason for the body to resist shedding fat. But this is another subject and I'm afraid my post is already way to long.

Gail

[Guest guest]

oh dear, the paleolithic diet looks so hard to follow, because of the grain ban. I followed a diet similar to that one with no grains at all and felt horrible for a month then I started feeling better but I'm not sure I'm made for a 0 carb diet, I mean 0 grain-no rice nor quinoa nor millet.. I do believe that we need at least a tiny bit of those a day.From: Bruce P <bruce@...>To:

iodine Sent: Wed, April 7, 2010 10:57:22 PMSubject: Re: Re: Weight loss

Well said Joanne, and a great testimony! So true on the last comment.

Thank you

Bruce

Re: Weight loss

I switched to the paleolithic diet, reversed arthritis and eliminated chronic muscle pain and stiffness and lost about 15 pounds without ever being hungry. My energy has increased, my hair is growing, and my eyebrows and coming back in.

There's little point in supplementing with anything if people aren't willing to improve their diet. It's a nice idea that health can be found in a pill, but it's futile.

Joanne

www.joanneunleashed .com

On Apr 7, 2010, at 10:31 AM, iodinegroups (DOT) com wrote:

I have read that once you get the right foods in your body it will heal and you will naturally lose weight.

[Guest guest]

people that miss the carb have serotonine problem.they can try to solve it with 5HTP

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Caroline Croon <carolinecroon@...> wrote:

 

oh dear, the paleolithic diet looks so hard to follow, because of the grain ban. I followed a diet similar to that one with no grains at all and felt horrible for a month then I started feeling better but I'm not sure I'm made for a 0 carb diet, I mean 0 grain-no rice nor quinoa nor millet.. I do believe that we need at least a tiny bit of those a day.

From: Bruce P <bruce@...>iodine

Sent: Wed, April 7, 2010 10:57:22 PMSubject: Re: Re: Weight loss 

Well said Joanne, and a great testimony! So true on the last comment.

Thank you

 

Bruce

 

Re: Weight loss

 

I switched to the paleolithic diet, reversed arthritis and eliminated chronic muscle pain and stiffness and lost about 15 pounds without ever being hungry. My energy has increased, my hair is growing, and my eyebrows and coming back in. 

There's little point in supplementing with anything if people aren't willing to improve their diet. It's a nice idea that health can be found in a pill, but it's futile.

Joanne

www.joanneunleashed .com

On Apr 7, 2010, at 10:31 AM, iodinegroups (DOT) com wrote:

I have read that once you get the right foods in your body it will heal and you will naturally lose weight. 

[Guest guest]

The "paleo" diet isn't 0 carb. nor is that a good idea.

Most who go off grains etc do so quicky, a week average of cravings.

Some have harder time.

Bruce

Re: Weight loss

I switched to the paleolithic diet, reversed arthritis and eliminated chronic muscle pain and stiffness and lost about 15 pounds without ever being hungry. My energy has increased, my hair is growing, and my eyebrows and coming back in.

There's little point in supplementing with anything if people aren't willing to improve their diet. It's a nice idea that health can be found in a pill, but it's futile.

Joanne

www.joanneunleashed .com

On Apr 7, 2010, at 10:31 AM, iodinegroups (DOT) com wrote:

I have read that once you get the right foods in your body it will heal and you will naturally lose weight.

[Guest guest]

no I know it's not a O carbs but I meant 0 carbs from grains. I know I have issues with food, emotional mainly and that's probably the reason why I have extremely strong cravings, especially around the time of my periods, so it's due to hormones but also to serotonin like I do said. I take Tryptophan which is more efficient than HTTP5 apparently but it doesnt help. At the moment I dont have cravings and I'm fine I mean yes I could do with a chocolate or whatever but I wont die if I dont eat it, I have the willingness to not eat it but when I have those uncontrollable cravings, it's like someone is inside me and control me it's crazy. I really feel there's something missing if I dont eat grains, I mean there are so many different diets we're not even sure it's that good for health and we're all so

different, it can be very beneficial for some and not for others. BTW for the ones that could interest, Ross wrote a book called Mood cure and Diet cure, they'r eboth really interesting. I have the diet cure and there's one part on hidden thyroid issue. here's the website:http://www.dietcure.com/it's not only about weight loss, it's the reason why we can't lose weight-thyroid problems, candidas, glycemia disturbance etc and it's all very interesting. I got it second hand for 6 dollars.From: Bruce P

<bruce@...>iodine Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 4:40:35 PMSubject: Re: Re: Weight loss

The "paleo" diet isn't 0 carb. nor is that a good idea.

Most who go off grains etc do so quicky, a week average of cravings.

Some have harder time.

Bruce

Re: Weight loss

I switched to the paleolithic diet, reversed arthritis and eliminated chronic muscle pain and stiffness and lost about 15 pounds without ever being hungry. My energy has increased, my hair is growing, and my eyebrows and coming back in.

There's little point in supplementing with anything if people aren't willing to improve their diet. It's a nice idea that health can be found in a pill, but it's futile.

Joanne

www.joanneunleashed .com

On Apr 7, 2010, at 10:31 AM, iodinegroups (DOT) com wrote:

I have read that once you get the right foods in your body it will heal and you will naturally lose weight.

[Guest guest]

Tryptophan is not more efficient then 5HTP.go to iherb come and read what the people say about 5HTP of jarrows

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Caroline Croon <carolinecroon@...> wrote:

 

no I know it's not a O carbs but I meant 0 carbs from grains. I know I have issues with food, emotional mainly and that's probably the reason why I have extremely strong cravings, especially around the time of my periods, so it's due to hormones but also to serotonin like I do said. I take Tryptophan which is more efficient than HTTP5 apparently but it doesnt help. At the moment I dont have cravings and I'm fine I mean yes I could do with a chocolate or whatever but I wont die if I dont eat it, I have the willingness to not eat it but when I have those uncontrollable cravings, it's like someone is inside me and control me it's crazy. I really feel there's something missing if I dont eat grains, I mean there are so many different diets we're not even sure it's that good for health and we're all so different, it can be very beneficial for some and not for others.

BTW for the ones that could interest, Ross wrote a book called Mood cure and Diet cure, they'r eboth really interesting. I have the diet cure and there's one part on hidden thyroid issue. here's the website:

http://www.dietcure.com/it's not only about weight loss, it's the reason why we can't lose weight-thyroid problems, candidas, glycemia disturbance etc and it's all very interesting. I got it second hand for 6 dollars.

From: Bruce P <bruce@...>iodine

Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 4:40:35 PMSubject: Re: Re: Weight loss 

The " paleo " diet isn't 0 carb. nor is that a good idea.

Most who go off grains etc do so quicky, a week average of cravings.

Some have harder time.

Bruce

 

Re: Weight loss

 

I switched to the paleolithic diet, reversed arthritis and eliminated chronic muscle pain and stiffness and lost about 15 pounds without ever being hungry. My energy has increased, my hair is growing, and my eyebrows and coming back in. 

There's little point in supplementing with anything if people aren't willing to improve their diet. It's a nice idea that health can be found in a pill, but it's futile.

Joanne

www.joanneunleashed .com

On Apr 7, 2010, at 10:31 AM, iodinegroups (DOT) com wrote:

I have read that once you get the right foods in your body it will heal and you will naturally lose weight. 

[Guest guest]

I've been taking 5-HTP for a few days, and it seems to have decreased my

appetite...I would take it just for that effect

Sherry

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[Guest guest]

Caroline, I'm telling you that if I could do it, YOU can. I love pasta, love

pizza, love bagels, love Italian bread, love pie, love, love, love, etc., etc.,

etc.

Loved it all the way to 220 pounds.

Have Hashi/hypo and other AI diseases, so started gluten-free. Well, there are

too many gluten-free alt. grain products out there, now. So, no improvement.

Started no-flour, little (he he)-sugar. Two days, two days only of craving.

After that, whammo! gone. I do get some carbs in the sheep milk yogurt/maple

flavored that I have once a day. I get carbs in the BIG salad I have with my

protein for dinner every night. I DID have a couple bites of Easter candy on

Sunday (enough to know I didn't want it.....)

I pick the beans out of my chili. I eat the spaghetti sauce in a bowl when I

fix spaghetti for my family. I bought some Ezekiel Sprouted (flourless) Bread,

keep it in the freezer, and have a couple slices every few days, with good

organic butter.

It works and I'm losing weight. But more importantly, I feel great. I walked

into Walmart the other day and FORGOT to take my cane (I have MS). Keep trying.

Beverly

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[Guest guest]

Actually, some people gain and some lose. It varies for each person.

Barbara

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> I know Lexapro says weightgain is a side effect but has anyone suffered weight

loss? I have been on Lexapro 10 mg for about 4 weeks and here in the last week

have notice that my clothes are a little looser. I weighed my self but havent

lost any weight but I just feel better in my clothes.

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[Guest guest]

Rule of thumb I learned many years ago is that it is not safe to lose weight

faster than a pound a week. Yet the " idiot proof diet " talks about close

to a pound a day weight loss. I am curious about its healthfulness and

safety.

Alobar

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Taffy <taffya@...> wrote:

> Ronna Harlow wrote:

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> " For the past 5 years I have been

> trying to figure out the right combination to lose 30 pounds! I am stuck at

> 160. Surely some day I will find the right combo to help me lose 30

> pounds! "

>

>

>

> Hi, Ronna and others who are trying to lose weight..you may wish to check

> our a diet called " The Idiot Proof Diet " . It can be found on the internet.

> One is never hungry, diet is fairly well balanced...average weight loss

> about eight to ten pounds in eleven or so days. I have seen it work for

> many people. I do not need to lose weight, but use this diet when my

> energy

> is low, because it seems to provide a lot of energy..for me, at least.

>

> Taffy

>

>

[Guest guest]

The idiot proof diet is not a bad diet, nutritionally speaking, but the " pound a

day " is pure hype. A pound a week or 2 lbs. a month are more like it but it

does work for those who are stuck at a plateau. It's somewhat similar to the

zig zag diet I mentioned but it got really boring as the food choices were too

limited. Basically the rotation has more to do with certain carbs and protein

rather than calories, whereas the zig zag diet simply rotates total calories for

the day. In either case, however, the idea of rotation really works to get the

weight loss going when you're stalled.

Dee

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> > " For the past 5 years I have been

> > trying to figure out the right combination to lose 30 pounds! I am stuck at

> > 160. Surely some day I will find the right combo to help me lose 30

> > pounds! "

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi, Ronna and others who are trying to lose weight..you may wish to check

> > our a diet called " The Idiot Proof Diet " . It can be found on the internet.

> > One is never hungry, diet is fairly well balanced...average weight loss

> > about eight to ten pounds in eleven or so days. I have seen it work for

> > many people. I do not need to lose weight, but use this diet when my

> > energy

> > is low, because it seems to provide a lot of energy..for me, at least.

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> > Taffy

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