Dogs

[Guest guest]

,

As long as Tigger wants to work, I dont think she's gonna be

bothered by added responsibility.

The guide dog schools are beginning to realize that many blind

people also have other disabilities or issues. GDb is also seeing

more and more instructors becoming certified in O & M training.

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People say I live in my own little fantasy world... well, at least

they *know* me there!

-- D.L. Roth

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Portland, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rlclark77@...

http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/

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In a message dated 7/5/2004 12:22:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

palhub@... writes:

Anybody have any

advice for me? What should I expect immediatly after surgery? I'm not

staying in the hospital overnight. My doctor uses dissolvable stitches and

I can wash my hair in a few days after surgery.

pamper yourself. you might feel a bit tender at the incision, there is no

restriction as what you can't do as long you feel fine. In fact, i was

driving the next day, of course, didn't have dizziness as some people had

mentioned.

I had disolvable stitch and did wash my hair 3 days after surgery, just be

gentle in that area and you will be fine.

good luck!

Lee

[Guest guest]

,

Are there any trainers at GDB who know sign (ASL or PSE)? Leader Dogs has

several trainers on staff who can sign.

(Of course, after I get my CI, I may no longer have to use sign!)

[Guest guest]

,

Not sure, but even with a CI, you may like being able to sign.

When you get to that point of putting in an application, you can ask

about that then.

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Reality.sys corrupted. Universe halted. Reboot(Y/N) ?

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Portland, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rlclark77@...

http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/

[Guest guest]

,

That's true. Even now, I communicate best using TC (FM system and tactile

sign). We'll see what happens. At any rate, it's nice to know I have options

once the time comes to make this decision.

[Guest guest]

II'm scheduled to have CI surgery on September 8th at NYU. Anybody have any

advice for me? What should I expect immediatly after surgery? I'm not

staying in the hospital overnight. My doctor uses dissolvable stitches and

I can wash my hair in a few days after surgery.

trish

Re: dogs

> ,

> As long as Tigger wants to work, I dont think she's gonna be

> bothered by added responsibility.

>

> The guide dog schools are beginning to realize that many blind

> people also have other disabilities or issues. GDb is also seeing

> more and more instructors becoming certified in O & M training.

>

> *---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

> People say I live in my own little fantasy world... well, at least

> they *know* me there!

> -- D.L. Roth

> & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

> Portland, Oregon

> N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

> rlclark77@...

> http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My throat was really sore--popsicles really soothed that.

Hal

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Maddviking@... wrote:

> In a message dated 1/19/2005 3:42:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> furryboots@... writes:

> Remember that dogs are basically carnivores - they are not designed

> to do a lot with plants.

>

> One mystery that you may be able to solve is dogs eating wild plants and

> grass.

Hi MAx,

It is hard to be sure what they are getting from plants - but it is

generally thought that it is folic acid. There is folic acid in the

green leaves or grasses and so on for example. The carnivore normally

has to rely on gut bacteria to get folic acid for them - but if those

are the wrong kind or lack the right fibres to ferment - then the dog

needs to get folic elsewhere and possible fiber elsewhere.

The other plant ingredient they do get - and cats get - is carotene,

which has important functions as carotene (not converted to Vit ! ) in

the immune system - and it is used in the gut area for immune function.

(Much or the immune system cell activity is in the gut - some estimate

80% of it!)

> I've been told that it's the MSM in the living plants.

I can't prove it is not - but my money would be on folic acid and

pigment. Sulfonyl compounds like MSM only occur in specific kinds of

plants high in sulphur - and it doesn't seem to me those are what dogs

go for???

My Siberian husky ate blackberries - very high in pigment, and not much

grass. Cats will also eat grass but they chew it, and barf it out. They

do not chew well at all so I do not know how much benefit they could

get. It's also thought cats may swallow grass as an emetic to help them

bring up a meal that does not sit well.

The problem with definitive answers in this area is that the only

research anyone will pay for is that which has dollar rewards (such as

for food manufacturers) or that which may lead to human health

improvements. Very little " pure " canine or feline research is done,

more's the pity. Much of what we know has been discovered by the school

of hard knocks - and sometimes verified by research - but those are

always detrimental issues - not usually beneficial ones.

....Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

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In a message dated 1/21/2005 12:31:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,

furryboots@... writes:

I can't prove it is not - but my money would be on folic acid and

pigment. Sulfonyl compounds like MSM only occur in specific kinds of

plants high in sulphur - and it doesn't seem to me those are what dogs

go for???

My Siberian husky ate blackberries

Yes, I've had a dog who picked black raspberries while we were trying to pick

them. She had Huskie in her. This dog (Golden retriever/Chow) seems to be

very specific about what " weeds " he eats whereas my other dog just munches on

grass and throws up (looks like a small McNab). I'm sure they're eating

something they need and it's made me realize that maybe they need to walk in the

woods where they can ferret out the plants they need. I've read that when dogs

throw up after they eat grass, it's because the grass tips irritate the stomach

wall.

[Guest guest]

If you want a dog just for play, a beagle would be great. But, when

my child was small, i needed an extra set of eyes, as the minute i

wasnt looking, dd would step out of our yard. We got a collie, and

i'd stay outside with it and the children. The dog learned the kids

boundaries, from watching me:0). We got another collie later(first

one died), and it learned just as easily...it stopped dd from

climbing fences, leaving the yard, going in the road...and it would

bark and act, not just one or the other...she was it's sheep:0).

We have huskies, now, and they are useless for anything but play,

and not really good at that. Very stubborn little dogs, hard to

train for anything but pulling(they arent pullin' sleds here in

Georgia, they pull me, unfortunately, lol).

A dog with a natural protection instinct may be your best bet, but i

think the herding groups are a little more gentle. We tried a

border collie, but she was very hyper, which made training her

hard. A grown dog may not seem as cute, but i think upon meeting an

adult dog, you will better determine whether it will be what you

need for your child. And they can still be trained, even better

than a puppy, actually. There is a collie rescue group here. If

you use a rescue group, rather than the pound, they will require a

fence. I've checked with many here in georgia.

But, may i suggest having your child tested for allergies first? If

they only test for one thing, it shouldnt be too painful, but if

he's allergic and you dont know it, he could be affected in more

ways than a neurologically typical person.

Our animals(dogs and cats)are my child's playmates. She talked

better to them earlier than to us. She had no anxiety, as she was

born into a house with pets, but many children have extreme anxiety

with animals. I wish you great success in your search!

hugs,

scarlett

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have a 3 1/2 year old son who is autistic and an 18 month

old son

> who is typical. I would love to get them a dog but I am

not sure what

> kind. Probably something medium sized and definatly good with

small

> children. A dog that wouldn't be a lump on the floor but then

again wouldn't

> be so hyper and energetic that it scares or hurts . I have

been reading

> about different breeds and beagles seem to most fit that bill.

Does anyone

> know of any other breeds that are good or breeds to avoid?

>

> Also, I have heard some dogs can be good therapy for autism. Does

anyone

> have any experiece with that?

>

> Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

We have 3 middle aged basset hounds. Although my 4 year old autistic son generally ignores them, he does pet them sometimes and say doggie. They are definitely lumps on the floor as far as activity level goes. Keep in mind that beagles and bassets for that matter are scent hounds. They think with their noses and can be quite stubborn. A fence or outside on leash only is definitely required for a hound! See www.bhrg.org for a list of rescued basset hounds up for adoption if you're interested. There is also a local beagle rescue group called Beagles & More I believe.

[Guest guest]

dear scarlett,

thank you for so beautifully stating what i tried to convey in my post earlier! dogs such as lab and golden retreivers are great for the blind but experience (as well as others experiences) tell me that a herding dog that treats your child as his 'sheep' is an excellent source for the extra eyes that u mentioned.

my son is 13 now but when he was younger , he was a runner. i rented my house also and the landlord forbade animals but i wish i could have used to dog concept for my little escape artist.

sincerely,

christy perkins

Re: Dogs

If you want a dog just for play, a beagle would be great. But, when my child was small, i needed an extra set of eyes, as the minute i wasnt looking, dd would step out of our yard. We got a collie, and i'd stay outside with it and the children. The dog learned the kids boundaries, from watching me:0). We got another collie later(first one died), and it learned just as easily...it stopped dd from climbing fences, leaving the yard, going in the road...and it would bark and act, not just one or the other...she was it's sheep:0).We have huskies, now, and they are useless for anything but play, and not really good at that. Very stubborn little dogs, hard to train for anything but pulling(they arent pullin' sleds here in Georgia, they pull me, unfortunately, lol).A dog with a natural protection instinct may be your best bet, but i think the herding groups are a little more gentle. We tried a border collie, but she was very hyper, which made training her hard. A grown dog may not seem as cute, but i think upon meeting an adult dog, you will better determine whether it will be what you need for your child. And they can still be trained, even better than a puppy, actually. There is a collie rescue group here. If you use a rescue group, rather than the pound, they will require a fence. I've checked with many here in georgia.But, may i suggest having your child tested for allergies first? If they only test for one thing, it shouldnt be too painful, but if he's allergic and you dont know it, he could be affected in more ways than a neurologically typical person.Our animals(dogs and cats)are my child's playmates. She talked better to them earlier than to us. She had no anxiety, as she was born into a house with pets, but many children have extreme anxiety with animals. I wish you great success in your search!hugs,scarlett> > Hi everyone,> > I have a 3 1/2 year old son who is autistic and an 18 month old son > who is typical. I would love to get them a dog but I am not sure what > kind. Probably something medium sized and definatly good with small > children. A dog that wouldn't be a lump on the floor but then again wouldn't > be so hyper and energetic that it scares or hurts . I have been reading > about different breeds and beagles seem to most fit that bill. Does anyone > know of any other breeds that are good or breeds to avoid?> > Also, I have heard some dogs can be good therapy for autism. Does anyone > have any experiece with that?> > Thanks!>

[Guest guest]

Carole - you haven't "lost it" at all! Being a dog person myself, I highly recommend having one - especially during the 'rough times' - as a dog can be both soothing and comforting when you feel so all alone. I don't know what I would do without mine here during my postop recoveries. He stays right with me night and day, listens to all my woes, becomes my crying pillow, is my cheerleading squad, never criticizes, and is at his happiest just to lie there with me and be loved in return.

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[Guest guest]

Oh, ,

What a kind and caring letter you wrote me! Thank you so much! This first adoption try didn't go through, but I am assured that I shall get there and, eventually, be the proud owner of a Bichon Frise!

Sincerely,

Carole

[Guest guest]

I have two very wonderful dogs. After my revision surgery it was

nearly a month before I got to go back home for the first time. One

of my dogs wrapped his paws around my arm as I lay on the couch,

burried his little head in my arm and cried, he cried for a long, long

time. It made me feel so good and loved to know that he had missed me

that much. I kept making a few short visits home every day and he was

right there to watch out for me and to make sure that I didn't get

hurt. I am positive that my dogs made the difference in how much

sooner I was able to come home.

> Carole - you haven't " lost it " at all! Being a dog person myself,

I highly

> recommend having one - especially during the 'rough times' - as a

dog can be

> both soothing and comforting when you feel so all alone. I don't

know what I

> would do without mine here during my postop recoveries. He stays

right with

> me night and day, listens to all my woes, becomes my crying pillow,

is my

> cheerleading squad, never criticizes, and is at his happiest just

to lie there

> with me and be loved in return.

> ~~

[Guest guest]

, that is the sweetest story about your dog crying. We know they have feelings, for sure. We've usually had one of each (cat and dog) and they have always made friends, slept together, etc. Each time we've lost one, the other searches for a long time for the missing one!

Carole

[Guest guest]

I agree with you , dogs cannot eat anything. Cats can't either,

the same foods that will kill dogs will also kill cats. I don't think

that Kombucha Tea is a problem though, my youngest loves the taste of

the culture and will break his neck to get to my face when I use the

blended culture as a mask. He also likes the cream I use on my face, I

blended a culture with pure liquid minerals, Miracle II moisturizer,

and powdered Vitamin C.

I may as well make this a testimonial. I used to use ProActiv on my

skin because I would break out occasionally with a zit which wouldn't

go away without help! I used it for about 5 years and never had a

problem with my skin. When I started drinking the Kombucha Tea and got

more information on how to use the culture for other things, I

cancelled my autoship of the ProActiv and have been using the culture

and cream ever since. This has been about 3 months and I haven't had a

breakout or a problem with my skin since. It's wonderful stuff.

Judy

>

> > Dogs can eat anything a human does and more.

[Guest guest]

I also agree with . I also know from my vet that Potato shins are harmful

for your pets.

May The Great and Wise Wolf Guide your Path, And May He protect You

Always....Myrna

[Guest guest]

Hi,

You're question may not be as off topic as you think, animals can be calming,

and grow to be a real part of the family providing stability. All I can say is

research all breeds and narrow them down by size temperment, excersise

requirements, grooming needs. If you really want to know what you're getting you

can either purchase from a breeder or adopt a dog within your short list. Labs

are known for their wonderful temperment - Just remember first year puppy,

second year idiot, third year dog!!! I have daschunds and I would have ten in a

heartbeat but I tell people interested in getting them they can be hard to house

train. Any good breeder should ask YOU 20 questions.

Good Luck

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1. Re: When OCD hurts

From: " Marilyn "

2. A off topic question.

From: " Marilyn "

3. Re: A off topic question.

From: mnmomof1@...

4. Re: When OCD hurts

From: " "

5. Re: When OCD hurts

From: " mctodd444 "

6. Re: A off topic question.

From: " "

7. Re: A off topic question.

From: w birkhan

8. Re: Digest Number 2921

From: jimvans@...

9. Re: A off topic question.

From: Dina

10. Re: Digest Number 2921 (Sandy)

From: mnmomof1@...

11. Re: Off topic question

From: " Sandy "

12. Re: when ocd hurts

From: " Sandy "

13. Re: A off topic question.

From: " "

14. Re: A off topic question.

From: wasborngmama@...

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Message: 1

Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 15:07:27 -0000

From: " Marilyn "

Subject: Re: When OCD hurts

Hi Sandy,

I am so sorry your daughter had to go through that. Girls are

brutal in the teen years as it is. My son started with his ocd at age

12 and he lost so much of his life as it was because friends who didn't

understand thought he was also " psyco " . I learned along time ago that

you are better off having only one true friend than a thousand false

ones. My son had one friend who never judged him and to this day (my

son is now 15) he accepts his ocd behavior and it makes no difference

to him. I have thanked his parents repeatly because as far as I am

concerned how other children treat their peers all begins at home with

how they are rasied. You daughter will find that one true friend or

even teacher or counselor who will give her the support she needs. I

know as a parent your heart breaks to see your child in pain. Just keep

doing what you have been and I know it will work out.

Marilyn in PA

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Message: 2

Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 15:21:08 -0000

From: " Marilyn "

Subject: A off topic question.

Hello Everyone,

I was wondering if anyone could give me some postitive

feedback on finding a dog. Here is my situtation: Our beloved dog (16

yrs) passed away this past February. We finally decided to find a dog

through a rescue shelter this past week. We went on Tuesday and spent

time with this 4 year old lab/pit mix. He was so

gentle,sweet,listened etc. Well we brought him home and it had been

just great. Not one problem. Well yesterday we came in the house and

he was their with my daughter and her friend. The dog came up to my

son and when he went to pet him he tried to bite him! Luckly he

didn't break the skin. We tole the dog no and it seemed fine. Well

not 10 mintues later a friend of ours came over and was sitting

talking with all of us. He went (not in a threating way) to pet the

dog and it attached him and we had to put the dog in the yard and our

friend had to go to the ER his face was bitten up and his lip. He

needed his lip on top stiched up and may need plastic surgery! His

other cuts were not deep enough (thank god) to require stiches. We

are so sick about this whole thing. The dog had to be taken to the

spca. The place where we rescued him from said " oh the man they got

him from never turned in the paper stating if he had bitten anyone " .

Well then the dog should have not been adopted out to anyone! My

daughter is so upset as she think we shouldn't have taken him away.

Well we tried explaining to her we can't have an animal that would

hurt anyone. So now back to my original question: What kind of dog

would anyone recommend for a home with two teenagers and alot of

people visting? Would it be wise to start with a puppy instead of a

older dog? Thanks so much.

Marilyn in PA

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Message: 3

Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 11:44:20 EDT

From: mnmomof1@...

Subject: Re: A off topic question.

Hi Marilyn. What a terrible thing to happen! Personally, I think it is a

tough call whether to start with a puppy or an older dog. I have a pure bred

black lab and they are suppose to be wonderful dogs. As a 5 year old, he is a

wonderful dog, but he was a terrible puppy. He would tear our clothes. My arm

was covered in scratches and marks from him. I wish I could have gotten him

when he was about 1 1/2 because that is when he became so much easier to live

with. What size dog are you looking for? Kim

In a message dated 8/14/2005 10:21:40 AM Central Standard Time,

prschool4me@... writes:

Well we tried explaining to her we can't have an animal that would

hurt anyone. So now back to my original question: What kind of dog

would anyone recommend for a home with two teenagers and alot of

people visting? Would it be wise to start with a puppy instead of a

older dog? Thanks so much.

Marilyn in PA

[Guest guest]

,

I saw this posted on another list and it was just as poignant to read the

second time around.

Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with Freedom BTE

Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05

Right ear - Nucleus Freedom

Implanted: 2/1/06 Activated: 3/1/06

Deafblind/Postlingual

[Guest guest]

Even though I'm prolonging this off-topic post, I'd like to give

credit where credit is due.

According to all-creatures.org, this was written by Robin Downing, DVM

Judy in Jax

[Guest guest]

GOLDEN RETRIEVER!See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 19/10/2007 15:41:18 GMT Daylight Time, slpanda2@... writes:

Hello everyone. My son is 26 with DS and we had a cat for over 14 years until she passed away last year. My son would love a dog. Any suggestions on what would be best? I would want a medium sized dog that he could help take for a walk (no fenced in yard) and be his buddy. Any suggestions on where to get one too would help. I am in Elmhurst, Illinois. Thanks.

hears a pic of r lab his 10years old and my kids can do oat to him he will allways stay with the kids was my dog once but now the kids lol alex rides him like a pony hope u like the pic hus sylv mum of 11

[Guest guest]

Nice but they are a little too large for us. Both my sister-in-laws have Goldens but again too large. We are thinking Terrier or Beagle? Any comments?sylviabrtpck@... wrote: In a message dated 19/10/2007 15:41:18 GMT Daylight Time, slpanda2@... writes: Hello everyone. My son is 26 with DS and we had a cat for over 14 years until she

passed away last year. My son would love a dog. Any suggestions on what would be best? I would want a medium sized dog that he could help take for a walk (no fenced in yard) and be his buddy. Any suggestions on where to get one too would help. I am in Elmhurst, Illinois. Thanks. hears a pic of r lab his 10years old and my kids can do oat to him he will allways stay with the kids was my dog once but now the kids lol alex rides him like a pony hope u like the pic hus sylv mum of 11

[Guest guest]

I would have to go with beagle. My grandfather has one and she is the sweetest soul I've ever met. The thing is she does not like being left alone so if he'll be gone a bit you might consider that aspect.

Dogs

Hello everyone. My son is 26 with DS and we had a cat for over 14 years until she passed away last year. My son would love a dog. Any suggestions on what would be best? I would want a medium sized dog that he could help take for a walk (no fenced in yard) and be his buddy. Any suggestions on where to get one too would help. I am in Elmhurst, Illinois. Thanks.