Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 One of the reasons that I'm looking into negative ion generators is because this is the beginning of my public engraving season. As such, I am surrounded by staff & /or shoppers who may be sneezing & coughing, spreading more than holiday spirit. After my last event, I was exposed & came down with a bug. I am taking steps to prevent that from happening again. The negative ion generator is one consideration. Any feedback on the efficacy of the following: What about using a humidifier & instead of water, using colloidal silver to create a nice " safe zone " cloud around me that is blasting all viruses & bacteria? Would this combo be possible or is there something (like heat) in the humidifier that would negate the effects of the silver? Would this be as efficient or possibly more efficient at protecting me than a negative ion generator? With the generator, I figure " if it can't reach me, it can't infect me. With the humidifier/silver, I figure " if it does get near, it's dead. " . How's the logic on this? Seems linear, but which one would work better? My thinking about using both at the same time is that the generator would minimize/cancel the cloud-effect of the humidifier, so either one or the other, right? ('Cause if both are better, I'll do 'em all.) What do y'all think? Which approach is better? Is there a better 3rd approach (besides what I can put in myself, supplement/herbal-wise. I'm going to be doing that too.)? Yours for prohealth measures, -richard- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 People do use ultrasonic humidifiers or nebulizers to make CS mist, but it's breathed in directly out of the machine in order to deliver the CS's anti-pathogenic properties directly to the inside of the lungs. I've never heard of CS mist being used to create purified air space; sounds pretty wasteful to me, and I doubt it would be very effective. Silver has to be in an aqueous medium for it to work, so as soon as the CS mist's water evaporates, it's no longer effective. I think a better method would be to use a cleaned out nasal spray bottle filled with CS to periodically spray the inside of the nose and ears (along with periodically sipping and gargling CS.) And, just to clarify, by CS, I mean any silver preparation of 20 PPM or less that is made solely with pure silver and pure distilled water. Silver products with more than 20 PPM of silver should be avoided. > > One of the reasons that I'm looking into negative ion generators is because this is the beginning of my public engraving season. > As such, I am surrounded by staff & /or shoppers who may be sneezing & coughing, spreading more than holiday spirit. > After my last event, I was exposed & came down with a bug. I am taking steps to prevent that from happening again. > The negative ion generator is one consideration. > > Any feedback on the efficacy of the following: > What about using a humidifier & instead of water, using colloidal silver to create a nice " safe zone " cloud around me that is blasting all viruses & bacteria? > Would this combo be possible or is there something (like heat) in the humidifier that would negate the effects of the silver? > Would this be as efficient or possibly more efficient at protecting me than a negative ion generator? > > With the generator, I figure " if it can't reach me, it can't infect me. > With the humidifier/silver, I figure " if it does get near, it's dead. " . > > How's the logic on this? Seems linear, but which one would work better? > My thinking about using both at the same time is that the generator would minimize/cancel the cloud-effect of the humidifier, so either one or the other, right? > ('Cause if both are better, I'll do 'em all.) > > What do y'all think? Which approach is better? > Is there a better 3rd approach (besides what I can put in myself, supplement/herbal-wise. I'm going to be doing that too.)? > > Yours for prohealth measures, > -richard- > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 So basically, you're saying that spraying the silver out in a mist would be helping others who would be breathing it in & if I wasn't one of them, it wouldn't help me. (Didn't know that it wasn't air effective.) Gotta admit, I'm not interested in being that good a samaritan! lol! Gotta keep it about me! (Sounds selfish, but if I don't take care of my health, I'm not expecting the public to, eh? lol!) Thanks for straightening that out. I will follow your suggestions & prepare a nasal solution. I was already considering a saline nasal spray, but the colloidal solution sounds more effective, right? Do you have a preferred/favorite brand? And who's got the good deals/prices on it? -richard- People do use ultrasonic humidifiers or nebulizers to make CS mist, but it's breathed in directly out of the machine in order to deliver the CS's anti-pathogenic properties directly to the inside of the lungs. I've never heard of CS mist being used to create purified air space; sounds pretty wasteful to me, and I doubt it would be very effective. Silver has to be in an aqueous medium for it to work, so as soon as the CS mist's water evaporates, it's no longer effective. I think a better method would be to use a cleaned out nasal spray bottle filled with CS to periodically spray the inside of the nose and ears (along with periodically sipping and gargling CS.) And, just to clarify, by CS, I mean any silver preparation of 20 PPM or less that is made solely with pure silver and pure distilled water. Silver products with more than 20 PPM of silver should be avoided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Alobar, Oh, oh, read the other post on colloidal silver before reading yours. Please let me know why you consider it dangerous. Always interested &  respect your views/opinions. Thank you. -richard- > One of the reasons that I'm looking into negative ion generators is because this is the beginning of my public engraving season. > As such, I am surrounded by staff & /or shoppers who may be sneezing & coughing, spreading more than holiday spirit. > After my last event, I was exposed & came down with a bug. I am taking steps to prevent that from happening again. > The negative ion generator is one consideration. > > Any feedback on the efficacy of the following: > What about using a humidifier & instead of water, using colloidal silver to create a nice " safe zone " cloud around me that is blasting all viruses & bacteria? > Would this combo be possible or is there something (like heat) in the humidifier that would negate the effects of the silver? > Would this be as efficient or possibly more efficient at protecting me than a negative ion generator? > > With the generator, I figure " if it can't reach me, it can't infect me. > With the humidifier/silver, I figure " if it does get near, it's dead. " . > > How's the logic on this? Seems linear, but which one would work better? > My thinking about using both at the same time is that the generator would minimize/cancel the cloud-effect of the humidifier, so either one or the other, right? > ('Cause if both are better, I'll do 'em all.) > > What do y'all think? Which approach is better? > Is there a better 3rd approach (besides what I can put in myself, supplement/herbal- wise. I'm going to be doing that too.)? > > Yours for prohealth measures, > -richard- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Silver is not an element I feel is good for humans. If one oversdoses CS, one turns grey for life. Even if one does not overdose, it is a toxin which kills bacteria, whether the bscteria are needed for health or are pathogens. I do not anything which messes with my internal ecosystem. Alobar On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Silva <silvaworks@...> wrote: > Alobar, > Oh, oh, read the other post on colloidal silver before reading yours. > Please let me know why you consider it dangerous. > Always interested & respect your views/opinions. > Thank you. > -richard- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Also for the aerosol to distribute in the lungs the particles have to be .5-3 microns in size. 90 percent of what an ultrasonic nebulizer (usn) distributes is that size. However if you attach a cn particule to it, the size of the total particle would be wrong and not effectively distribute. Jules. Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Re: Off Topic: Negative Ion Generators vs. Humidifier/Colloidal Silver Combo People do use ultrasonic humidifiers or nebulizers to make CS mist, but it's breathed in directly out of the machine in order to deliver the CS's anti-pathogenic properties directly to the inside of the lungs. I've never heard of CS mist being used to create purified air space; sounds pretty wasteful to me, and I doubt it would be very effective. Silver has to be in an aqueous medium for it to work, so as soon as the CS mist's water evaporates, it's no longer effective. I think a better method would be to use a cleaned out nasal spray bottle filled with CS to periodically spray the inside of the nose and ears (along with periodically sipping and gargling CS.) And, just to clarify, by CS, I mean any silver preparation of 20 PPM or less that is made solely with pure silver and pure distilled water. Silver products with more than 20 PPM of silver should be avoided. > > One of the reasons that I'm looking into negative ion generators is because this is the beginning of my public engraving season. > As such, I am surrounded by staff & /or shoppers who may be sneezing & coughing, spreading more than holiday spirit. > After my last event, I was exposed & came down with a bug. I am taking steps to prevent that from happening again. > The negative ion generator is one consideration. > > Any feedback on the efficacy of the following: > What about using a humidifier & instead of water, using colloidal silver to create a nice " safe zone " cloud around me that is blasting all viruses & bacteria? > Would this combo be possible or is there something (like heat) in the humidifier that would negate the effects of the silver? > Would this be as efficient or possibly more efficient at protecting me than a negative ion generator? > > With the generator, I figure " if it can't reach me, it can't infect me. > With the humidifier/silver, I figure " if it does get near, it's dead. " . > > How's the logic on this? Seems linear, but which one would work better? > My thinking about using both at the same time is that the generator would minimize/cancel the cloud-effect of the humidifier, so either one or the other, right? > ('Cause if both are better, I'll do 'em all.) > > What do y'all think? Which approach is better? > Is there a better 3rd approach (besides what I can put in myself, supplement/herbal-wise. I'm going to be doing that too.)? > > Yours for prohealth measures, > -richard- > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Actually, I don't think misting the air with CS will help you or others because it will be too dilute and quickly evaporated into ineffectiveness. As for brands, you're throwing money away when you buy commercial silver products. I am a strong advocate for homebrew CS made with the proper equipment. The CS generators I recommend are: http://silverpuppy.com/ http://www.silvergen.com/ Personally, I use the machine from http://wishgranted.com/ But, it requires the addition of some stirring method to make optimal quality CS. > > > > > > > People do use ultrasonic humidifiers or nebulizers to make CS mist, but it's breathed in directly out of the machine in order to deliver the CS's anti-pathogenic properties directly to the inside of the lungs. I've never heard of CS mist being used to create purified air space; sounds pretty wasteful to me, and I doubt it would be very effective. Silver has to be in an aqueous medium for it to work, so as soon as the CS mist's water evaporates, it's no longer effective. I think a better method would be to use a cleaned out nasal spray bottle filled with CS to periodically spray the inside of the nose and ears (along with periodically sipping and gargling CS.) > > And, just to clarify, by CS, I mean any silver preparation of 20 PPM or less that is made solely with pure silver and pure distilled water. Silver products with more than 20 PPM of silver should be avoided. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Argyria (skin turning gray) is highly unlikely with CS that is 20 PPM or less. At that concentration, most people would die of excess water intake before enough silver to cause argyria could be ingested. The body has a certain capacity to excrete silver from the body, and it is only when that capacity is exceeded that the silver is deposited in the skin. As for CS and intestinal flora, unless the contents of the GI tract are liquid, CS should have no impact. The contents of a healthy colon are moist solids in which any silver would be immobilized by the insufficient amount of water. If you're taking probiotics, then you shouldn't take CS for a couple hours before and after the probiotics so that they're not killed by the CS in the liquid environment of the upper GI tract. > > Alobar, > > Oh, oh, read the other post on colloidal silver before reading yours. > > Please let me know why you consider it dangerous. > > Always interested & respect your views/opinions. > > Thank you. > > -richard- > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I have been using Colloidal silver for years, and with only good results. I have made my own, and never over 20ppm, but I think I am going to start ordering from Ben , Utopia Advanced silver, he's the best, and will answer any question that anyone wants to know about. From: Stanley <j_alexander_stanley@...> Subject: Re: Off Topic: Negative Ion Generators vs. Humidifier/Colloidal Silver Combo Coconut Oil Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 10:44 AM Â Argyria (skin turning gray) is highly unlikely with CS that is 20 PPM or less. At that concentration, most people would die of excess water intake before enough silver to cause argyria could be ingested. The body has a certain capacity to excrete silver from the body, and it is only when that capacity is exceeded that the silver is deposited in the skin. As for CS and intestinal flora, unless the contents of the GI tract are liquid, CS should have no impact. The contents of a healthy colon are moist solids in which any silver would be immobilized by the insufficient amount of water. If you're taking probiotics, then you shouldn't take CS for a couple hours before and after the probiotics so that they're not killed by the CS in the liquid environment of the upper GI tract. > > Alobar, > > Oh, oh, read the other post on colloidal silver before reading yours. > > Please let me know why you consider it dangerous. > > Always interested & Â respect your views/opinions. > > Thank you. > > -richard- > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 That is exactly what I do several times a day as well as spraying directly into my eyes. I snort it deep into my lungs,3-4 shots ,each nostral.Haven't had a cold or sinus infection or congestion in over 8 years. cheers, doug Re: Off Topic: Negative Ion Generators vs. Humidifier/Colloidal Silver Combo People do use ultrasonic humidifiers or nebulizers to make CS mist, but it's breathed in directly out of the machine in order to deliver the CS's anti-pathogenic properties directly to the inside of the lungs. I've never heard of CS mist being used to create purified air space; sounds pretty wasteful to me, and I doubt it would be very effective. Silver has to be in an aqueous medium for it to work, so as soon as the CS mist's water evaporates, it's no longer effective. I think a better method would be to use a cleaned out nasal spray bottle filled with CS to periodically spray the inside of the nose and ears (along with periodically sipping and gargling CS.) And, just to clarify, by CS, I mean any silver preparation of 20 PPM or less that is made solely with pure silver and pure distilled water. Silver products with more than 20 PPM of silver should be avoided. > > One of the reasons that I'm looking into negative ion generators is because this is the beginning of my public engraving season. > As such, I am surrounded by staff & /or shoppers who may be sneezing & coughing, spreading more than holiday spirit. > After my last event, I was exposed & came down with a bug. I am taking steps to prevent that from happening again. > The negative ion generator is one consideration. > > Any feedback on the efficacy of the following: > What about using a humidifier & instead of water, using colloidal silver to create a nice " safe zone " cloud around me that is blasting all viruses & bacteria? > Would this combo be possible or is there something (like heat) in the humidifier that would negate the effects of the silver? > Would this be as efficient or possibly more efficient at protecting me than a negative ion generator? > > With the generator, I figure " if it can't reach me, it can't infect me. > With the humidifier/silver, I figure " if it does get near, it's dead. " . > > How's the logic on this? Seems linear, but which one would work better? > My thinking about using both at the same time is that the generator would minimize/cancel the cloud-effect of the humidifier, so either one or the other, right? > ('Cause if both are better, I'll do 'em all.) > > What do y'all think? Which approach is better? > Is there a better 3rd approach (besides what I can put in myself, supplement/herbal-wise. I'm going to be doing that too.)? > > Yours for prohealth measures, > -richard- > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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