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keep us posted. Try a juice or water fast if possible or more raw foods ....maybe even some super tonic..kat <vanokat@...> wrote: Thanks for the info Suzi. Gonna watch him for a couple weeks. Kat -------Original Message-------

From: Suzanne Date: 09/14/06 16:12:31 health Subject: Re: Question Hi Kat. More than likely it is hormonal. Boys and men have breast tissue. If a male has breast tissue that is visible, this is called gynecomastia. As a normal part of development, young boys can have some breast swelling and tenderness. Like breast tenderness in women, this is due to hormonal changes. Is there any redness? Is this just

suddenly...? If it continues you may want to check it out. Suzi kat <vanokatmrtc> wrote: Hi everyone, I have a 12 yo son who has developed some swelling in one of his breasts- the nipple area to be exact. My husband is saying probably just hormones but I am kinda worried. Anyone know anything about this? He says it hurts to touch it. Geeezzzz I love motherhood. Kathy

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O.K., now, tears in my eyes again! Wonderfully said, Patty. Heart

to heart, woman to woman, hug by hug, prayer by prayer...oo! We

are doing it! I've been judged and persecuted all my life for

standing up for the truth, so it's not new to me.

I'm not here to be popular with many, just to be an instrument of

truth and healing. And to love my brothers and sisters to the nth

degree! Since love is an action word, we must speak out loud,

educate and celebrate our victories! There are victories every

day...already I alone have influenced atleast 20 - 30 women and men

with my testimony. Even an elderly Christian woman, very old school -

when I shared my story, she immediately said, " Oh, dear...a good

friend of ours has implants...I must warn her! " Gotta love it!

Bless you, Patty, for being vigilant with this site and not giving up

no matter what. That is courage.

Love, Sunny :)

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Kat, over 2/3 of puberty age boys develop

some breast swelling and tenderness. It is normal. Some even have a little

discharge. Most don’t notice it at all unless they are very conscious of

their body. Just reassure him it is OK and keep listening and observing. It’s

good to know I’m not the only mama worrying over these things hehehe.

*hugs*

Janet

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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006

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Hi Kat.

More than likely it is hormonal. Boys and men have breast tissue.

If a male has breast tissue that is visible, this is called gynecomastia. As a normal part of

development, young boys can have some breast swelling and tenderness. Like

breast tenderness in women, this is due to hormonal changes. Is there any

redness? Is this just suddenly...? If it continues you may want to

check it out.

Suzi

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Hi everyone,

I have a 12 yo son who has developed some

swelling in one of his breasts- the nipple area to be exact. My husband is

saying probably just hormones but I am kinda worried. Anyone know anything

about this? He says it hurts to touch it.

Geeezzzz I love motherhood.

Kathy

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My son also had the same thing when he was in Jr. Hi. school. The doctor was very concerned about it,

thinking it was breast cancer, so sent him to the local Children’s

Hospital for a lot of tests, which all showed negative. I’m sorry now that I put him through all

that. The breasts evened themselves out as he grew. Everything was fine, he’s 31 now, and

looks normal.

Carol

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Kat, over 2/3 of puberty age boys develop some

breast swelling and

tenderness. It is normal. Some even have a little

discharge. Most don't

notice it at all unless they are very conscious of

their body. Just reassure

him it is OK and keep listening and observing. It's

good to know I'm not the

only mama worrying over these things hehehe.

*hugs* Janet

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Pris

That depends. If you had a husband that paid into the S.S. system then you

possibly would be able to draw from his account. If you were self employed and

filed your taxes properly, you probably paid into the system too, by way of the

self-employment tax.

A lot depends on your marital situation, but the www.socialsecurity.gov website

should give you some answers. If you did not have a spouse that paid into the

system, and you as a self-employed person did NOT pay into the system, then

certainly you will not be able to draw from it, since you would not have

contributed to it.

Good luck, check out that website.

Patsy

El Mirage, AZ

DX 2005 Stage 1 PBC

AIH/SLE/RA/COPD

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In a message dated 11/26/06 6:49:08 AM, ikennedy2@... writes:

> The states have a medical assistance program intended for very low income

> families and individuals. It is funded by the Feds and administered by the

> states. It is known as Medicaid

>

No, we would not qualify, but thanks for thinking of us!

Hubby is on Medicare with the gap insurance, but I have virtually no

insurance, except for disasters.

That is because I have RA and other diseases (like most of you).

I am not REALLY disabled because I do work.

But I have to suffer and take pain meds to do it .

Some day I will not be able to......I am entertainer, self employed..how much

longer can I crawl to the stage, lol!

Hubby was on national TV yesterday (Animal Planet) and will be on another

national show tomorrow,

Country Music Station.

Thanks again,

Pris

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Pris.

The states have a medical assistance program intended for very low income

families and individuals. It is funded by the Feds and administered by the

states. It is known as Medicaid at the federal level but some states have

their own name for it. Here in Arizona it is called AHCCCS and it pays your

premium for health care to one of three plans. You get to chose the plan

best for you. It is no frills but adequate care can be gotten at doctors who

accept the coverage. It pays for treatment and medication. You don't get to

go to the Mayo Clinic but our major hospitals accept the coverage. Covers

some dental also.

I do not know your situation but perhaps there would be some help available

in your state. I do know you must have an address......not be living under a

bridge......to qualify.

" Never, never, never, never give up! "

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> Pris

> That depends. If you had a husband that paid into the S.S. system then

> you possibly would be able to draw from his account. If you were self

> employed and filed your taxes properly, you probably paid into the system

> too, by way of the self-employment tax.

>

> A lot depends on your marital situation, but the www.socialsecurity.gov

> website should give you some answers. If you did not have a spouse that

> paid into the system, and you as a self-employed person did NOT pay into

> the system, then certainly you will not be able to draw from it, since you

> would not have contributed to it.

>

> Good luck, check out that website.

>

> Patsy

> El Mirage, AZ

> DX 2005 Stage 1 PBC

> AIH/SLE/RA/COPD

> Just a woman of letters....

>

>

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you may still be eligible for ssi benefits...but probably not ssd....frank

NELLIESTAR@... wrote: I have been a stay at home mom all my life,

then had my own business, so do

not qualify for SS.

So, this means (I suppose) if I am disabled I get nothing, too?

THANKS,

Pris

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you would be able to get SSI. I found that out last year when I

applied. I have not worked in 14 years. You do go through the same

process with SS office and most of the time are turned down. I

was.

>

> I have been a stay at home mom all my life, then had my own

business, so do

> not qualify for SS.

> So, this means (I suppose) if I am disabled I get nothing, too?

> THANKS,

> Pris

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In order to get SSI you must be over 65 or disabled or blind. If you are

claiming disability then you must prove you are truly disabled by their

definitions.

SSI information can be found at:

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/11000.html#part1

Take note that while SSI is administered by the Social Security office it is

Supplemental Security Income and paid for with U.S. Treasury funds and not

Social Security Trust funds.

K.

" il faut d'abord durer " Hemingway

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> you would be able to get SSI. I found that out last year when I

> applied. I have not worked in 14 years. You do go through the same

> process with SS office and most of the time are turned down. I

> was.

>

>

>

>

>>

>> I have been a stay at home mom all my life, then had my own

> business, so do

>> not qualify for SS.

>> So, this means (I suppose) if I am disabled I get nothing, too?

>> THANKS,

>> Pris

>>

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dont think u have to be over 65 to get ssi...go to the web site..ssa.gov and

take the eligibility questionaire...frank

Kennedy <ikennedy2@...> wrote: In order to get SSI you must

be over 65 or disabled or blind. If you are

claiming disability then you must prove you are truly disabled by their

definitions.

SSI information can be found at:

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/11000.html#part1

Take note that while SSI is administered by the Social Security office it is

Supplemental Security Income and paid for with U.S. Treasury funds and not

Social Security Trust funds.

K.

" il faut d'abord durer " Hemingway

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> you would be able to get SSI. I found that out last year when I

> applied. I have not worked in 14 years. You do go through the same

> process with SS office and most of the time are turned down. I

> was.

>

>

>

>

>>

>> I have been a stay at home mom all my life, then had my own

> business, so do

>> not qualify for SS.

>> So, this means (I suppose) if I am disabled I get nothing, too?

>> THANKS,

>> Pris

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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On November 26 frank wrote:

" dont think u have to be over 65 to get ssi...go to the web site..ssa.gov

and take the eligibility questionaire...frank "

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

frank.

SSI is for people over 65 or blind or disabled. It is also available for

some children who are blind or disabled.

If you will click on the link it will explain everything about SSI benefits.

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/11000.html#part1

K

" il faut d'abord durer " Hemingway

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> dont think u have to be over 65 to get ssi...go to the web site..ssa.gov

> and take the eligibility questionaire...frank

>

> Kennedy <ikennedy2@...> wrote: In order to get SSI you

> must be over 65 or disabled or blind. If you are

> claiming disability then you must prove you are truly disabled by their

> definitions.

>

> SSI information can be found at:

> http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/11000.html#part1

>

> Take note that while SSI is administered by the Social Security office it

> is

> Supplemental Security Income and paid for with U.S. Treasury funds and not

> Social Security Trust funds.

>

> K.

> " il faut d'abord durer " Hemingway

>

>

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Hi " B " ,

Interesting observation. The " theory " says that a BPES carrier, whether

male or female, has a 50% chance of passing BPES on, it apparently being

" autosomal dominant " and all, as if that explains anything. I'd be

interested to see how that matches with the real world.

In my case, I inherited BPES from my father but my sister doesn't have

it. Only one of my father's four sisters had it, but her (as far as I

know) child/ren didn't. My only child (son) possibly has BPES, but only

very mildly if so.

Maybe you could set up a poll in the group for this.

Rob W

bry_thomps wrote:

> Morning All

>

> I have a question which may seem a little strange; it's merely

> curiosity on my behalf.

>

> I have only heard of one instance where a man did not pass BPES to his

> child, but know of loads of cases where the mother hasn't. I was just

> wondering other people take on this. There is a poll asking who has

> BPES in the family but nothing as specific as a mother or father

> carrier.

>

> Sorry to be so random!!

>

> Thanks

> B

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--- In blepharophimosis , " bry_thomps " <bryony2@...>

wrote:

>

> Morning All

>

> I have a question which may seem a little strange; it's merely

> curiosity on my behalf.

>

> I have only heard of one instance where a man did not pass BPES to

his

> child, but know of loads of cases where the mother hasn't. I was

just

> wondering other people take on this. There is a poll asking who

has

> BPES in the family but nothing as specific as a mother or father

> carrier.

>

> Sorry to be so random!!

>

> Thanks

Hi, I'm a mother of 4.1 daughter & 3 sons.2 of my sons have BPES.

I'm the 1st in my family to have BPES.

Hope this helps,

Ally.

> B

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hi

I am the mother of a 5 month old little girl named samantha and she was born with Bleph her daddy was the carrier and she is the second in the family to be born with it.

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IN my family - there are only males with this until myself. I have grown our family through adoption because of some fertility issues we faced. So, I am not sure if I would have passed this on or not! Lynette in SC

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Morning AllI have a question which may seem a little strange; it's merely curiosity on my behalf. I have only heard of one instance where a man did not pass BPES to his child, but know of loads of cases where the mother hasn't. I was just wondering other people take on this. There is a poll asking who has BPES in the family but nothing as specific as a mother or father carrier.Sorry to be so random!!ThanksB

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Hi Rob

I was always told that it was a random 50/50 gene but I do wonder!

I have done a really basic poll to see if it tends to be fathers or mothers

who pass it along, I guess something more complicated can be done if need

be. I think the female fertility issues also affect the results.

I also inherited from my father, but my daughter does not have it.

It's an interesting one I think so we will see what the results kick up.

Thanks

B

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Our daugther is the first on booth sides..... we went sooooo far back in our family tree... she just the first bry_thomps <bryony2@...> wrote: Morning AllI have a question which may seem a little strange; it's merely curiosity on my behalf. I have only heard of one instance where a man did not pass BPES to his child, but know of loads of cases where the mother hasn't. I was just wondering other people take on this. There is a poll asking who

has BPES in the family but nothing as specific as a mother or father carrier.Sorry to be so random!!ThanksB

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B, In My husbands family has the bpes gene. All the males in the family have it and have passed it onto there children. My daughter is 1 of 3 girls that have it in the family. The first reported family member to have it is my husbands great grandmother. How weird genes work. Carla bry_thomps <bryony2@...> wrote: Morning AllI have a question which may seem a little strange; it's merely curiosity on my behalf. I have only heard of

one instance where a man did not pass BPES to his child, but know of loads of cases where the mother hasn't. I was just wondering other people take on this. There is a poll asking who has BPES in the family but nothing as specific as a mother or father carrier.Sorry to be so random!!ThanksB

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Genes are very weird things, so far the father passing BPES on is 70% so

we will see....................

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>blepharophimosis

>From: Carla Howell <carlahwll@...>

>Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 05:56:32 -0800 (PST)

>Subject: Re: blepharophimosis Question

>Reply-blepharophimosis

>

>

>B,

> In My husbands family has the bpes gene. All the males in the family have

>it and have passed it onto there children. My daughter is 1 of 3 girls that

>have it in the family. The first reported family member to have it is my

>husbands great grandmother. How weird genes work.

> Carla

>

>

>bry_thomps <bryony2@...> wrote:

> Morning All

>

>I have a question which may seem a little strange; it's merely

>curiosity on my behalf.

>

>I have only heard of one instance where a man did not pass BPES to his

>child, but know of loads of cases where the mother hasn't. I was just

>wondering other people take on this. There is a poll asking who has

>BPES in the family but nothing as specific as a mother or father

>carrier.

>

>Sorry to be so random!!

>

>Thanks

>B

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Someone made a comment about maybe the results will be affected because A

LOT of females have POF so they do not have children as much.... Would you

not say that this is an important fact before deciding that it is

usually/only males who pass it on? my career in the medical field

makes me look at the whole picture that is why I have this question..... Im

just wondering, that's all

Tonikka (edmonton canada)

On 2/15/07 7:19 AM, " bryony2@... " wrote:

> Genes are very weird things, so far the father passing BPES on is 70% so

> we will see....................

>

>> -- Original Message --

>> blepharophimosis

>> From: Carla Howell <carlahwll@...>

>> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 05:56:32 -0800 (PST)

>> Subject: Re: blepharophimosis Question

>> Reply-blepharophimosis

>>

>>

>> B,

>> In My husbands family has the bpes gene. All the males in the family have

>> it and have passed it onto there children. My daughter is 1 of 3 girls that

>> have it in the family. The first reported family member to have it is my

>> husbands great grandmother. How weird genes work.

>> Carla

>>

>>

>> bry_thomps <bryony2@...> wrote:

>> Morning All

>>

>> I have a question which may seem a little strange; it's merely

>> curiosity on my behalf.

>>

>> I have only heard of one instance where a man did not pass BPES to his

>> child, but know of loads of cases where the mother hasn't. I was just

>> wondering other people take on this. There is a poll asking who has

>> BPES in the family but nothing as specific as a mother or father

>> carrier.

>>

>> Sorry to be so random!!

>>

>> Thanks

>> B

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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That someone was me. I wouldn't want someone to think that based on

the results of this poll the chances of offspring having BPES would

increase or decrease dependent upon the mother or father having the

gene.

Any of the doctors out there?

> >> Morning All

> >>

> >> I have a question which may seem a little strange; it's merely

> >> curiosity on my behalf.

> >>

> >> I have only heard of one instance where a man did not pass BPES

to his

> >> child, but know of loads of cases where the mother hasn't. I was

just

> >> wondering other people take on this. There is a poll asking who

has

> >> BPES in the family but nothing as specific as a mother or father

> >> carrier.

> >>

> >> Sorry to be so random!!

> >>

> >> Thanks

> >> B

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

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The reason I started the poll was just a personal question whether there

was a difference in males or females passing BPES along.

I am very aware that female reproductive issues will affect the results but

for those ladies who can have children I wondered if their children did inherit.

I respect that your profession makes you see a much wider picture but I am

curious on a personal level. If you have any advice for the poll I welcome

any comments.

B

xx

>-- Original Message --

><blepharophimosis >

>From: Tonikka & <lyndenhunter@...>

>Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 08:18:47 -0700

>Subject: Re: blepharophimosis Question

>Reply-blepharophimosis

>

>

>Someone made a comment about maybe the results will be affected because

A

>LOT of females have POF so they do not have children as much.... Would you

>not say that this is an important fact before deciding that it is

>usually/only males who pass it on? my career in the medical field

>makes me look at the whole picture that is why I have this question.....

>Im

>just wondering, that's all

>

>

>Tonikka (edmonton canada)

>

>

>On 2/15/07 7:19 AM, " bryony2@... " wrote:

>

>> Genes are very weird things, so far the father passing BPES on is 70%

so

>> we will see....................

>>

>>> -- Original Message --

>>> blepharophimosis

>>> From: Carla Howell <carlahwll@...>

>>> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 05:56:32 -0800 (PST)

>>> Subject: Re: blepharophimosis Question

>>> Reply-blepharophimosis

>>>

>>>

>>> B,

>>> In My husbands family has the bpes gene. All the males in the family

>have

>>> it and have passed it onto there children. My daughter is 1 of 3 girls

>that

>>> have it in the family. The first reported family member to have it is

>my

>>> husbands great grandmother. How weird genes work.

>>> Carla

>>>

>>>

>>> bry_thomps <bryony2@...> wrote:

>>> Morning All

>>>

>>> I have a question which may seem a little strange; it's merely

>>> curiosity on my behalf.

>>>

>>> I have only heard of one instance where a man did not pass BPES to his

>>> child, but know of loads of cases where the mother hasn't. I was just

>>> wondering other people take on this. There is a poll asking who has

>>> BPES in the family but nothing as specific as a mother or father

>>> carrier.

>>>

>>> Sorry to be so random!!

>>>

>>> Thanks

>>> B

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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I agree that is why I brought it up again.....

Im not a doctor, I am a nurse but I have a genetics diploma..... Sadly not specialized in BPES

Tonikka (edmonton canada)

On 2/15/07 8:32 AM, " bethgordon03 " wrote:

That someone was me. I wouldn't want someone to think that based on

the results of this poll the chances of offspring having BPES would

increase or decrease dependent upon the mother or father having the

gene.

Any of the doctors out there?

> >> Morning All

> >>

> >> I have a question which may seem a little strange; it's merely

> >> curiosity on my behalf.

> >>

> >> I have only heard of one instance where a man did not pass BPES

to his

> >> child, but know of loads of cases where the mother hasn't. I was

just

> >> wondering other people take on this. There is a poll asking who

has

> >> BPES in the family but nothing as specific as a mother or father

> >> carrier.

> >>

> >> Sorry to be so random!!

> >>

> >> Thanks

> >> B

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ---------------------------------

> >> Be a PS3 game guru.

> >> Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at

Games.

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> >

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