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On 6/2/06, annbekins <annbekins@...> wrote:

> I have been using Crystal natural deodorant to avoid aluminum, but now

> have developed an itchy rash, so I'm apparently reacting to it. Does

> anyone have any good solutions to body odor? I have tried many

> natural deodorants, and they either make me itch or they don't work.

>

> Ann

Hi,

I've been using this little roll-on from Aubrey Organics called " E

plus high C " that's just coconut cream, grain alcohol and several

herbs and vitamin E. It works better than any other natural deodorant

I've tried, and doesn't have any nasty stuff in it.

Unfortunately it's kind of expensive, but I bet it wouldn't be hard to

make from scratch. I tried once with coconut oil but I wasn't able to

keep it from solidifying... maybe with actual coconut cream it would

work better. If we could figure out how to make it we wouldn't end up

tossing a big chunk of plastic in the trash just to keep others from

being offended that we smell like actual humans. :)

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On 6/4/06, dishchrista wrote:

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> , I apply it by hand after bathing. It doesn't take much so

> cost may not be an issue [i only own virgin CO so i don't know if

> refined would be different]. I dunk my finger tip into the jar and

> apply. It takes a few minutes to absorb. I use VCO to moisturize my

> entire body and I've never noticed any clothing stains. OTOH, I'm a

> casual dresser and stick to cotton tshirts and the like. I have no idea

> if it would be a problem with silk or other thin fabrics.

>

> Christa

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> > How do you apply the coconut oil? Do you use the virgin or would the

> cheaper kind be ok? Does the oil get on your clothes....seems like it

> would ruin the arm pits of all your shirts. ct

> >

>

I haven't tried it as deodorant, but I do use VCO as body lotion. I tried

the cheaper expeller pressed a while back, but it didn't soak in as well.

Like Christa said, it doesn't really take that much - especially when the

weather is warmer. I also dress pretty casually and haven't noticed oil

stains on my clothes - except the ones I get from cooking. LOL.

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-------->That's interesting...I'll have to try it :o) ct

, I apply it by hand after bathing. It doesn't take much so

cost may not be an issue [i only own virgin CO so i don't know if

refined would be different]. I dunk my finger tip into the jar and

apply. It takes a few minutes to absorb. I use VCO to moisturize my

entire body and I've never noticed any clothing stains. OTOH, I'm a

casual dresser and stick to cotton tshirts and the like. I have no idea

if it would be a problem with silk or other thin fabrics.

Christa

> How do you apply the coconut oil? Do you use the virgin or would the

cheaper kind be ok? Does the oil get on your clothes....seems like it

would ruin the arm pits of all your shirts. ct

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We just started using magnesium gel. It seems to work quite well.

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At 11:21 AM 6/2/06, you wrote:

>I have been using Crystal natural deodorant to avoid aluminum, but now

>have developed an itchy rash, so I'm apparently reacting to it. Does

>anyone have any good solutions to body odor? I have tried many

>natural deodorants, and they either make me itch or they don't work.

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Nina, Since I have been exposed to toxic mold I can no longer tolerate

scented candles of any kind. Most anything scented gives me debilitating

headaches, coughing, sore throats, tearing eyes, etc. The best advice is to stay

away

from, most if not, all fragrances! My husband started the grill yesterday for

the first time this season and the smell of the lighter fluid was horrible.

I ran into the house immediately but it was too late. It's 3PM on Monday and

I STILL have a bit of a headache!

Sue

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well ive had candles this whole time w/ no issue, certain smells hav

always triggered my migraines even before exposed to mold, so im very

careful about the types of candles that i buy, and actually I make

most of mine because i can regulate how much scent, and what kind,

goes into the candles.

The reason it made me wodner is this is the first time ive burned

candles since the work was done on my house, and the smell was

aweful. it wasnt candle smell it smelled like something was burning

(like that nasty kinda smell, not burning candles), and im wondering

if it were either the mold spores being kicked up from the work, or

else chemicals they used to clean it after that had gotten on the

candles. CAuse the candles in the kitchen didnt have that

smell,however the ones in the living room, within a few feet of where

the work was done, had that horrible smell

On Jun 19, 2006, at 9:25 AM, ssr3351@... wrote:

> Nina, Since I have been exposed to toxic mold I can no longer tolerate

> scented candles of any kind. Most anything scented gives me

> debilitating

> headaches, coughing, sore throats, tearing eyes, etc. The best

> advice is to stay away

> from, most if not, all fragrances! My husband started the grill

> yesterday for

> the first time this season and the smell of the lighter fluid was

> horrible.

> I ran into the house immediately but it was too late. It's 3PM on

> Monday and

> I STILL have a bit of a headache!

>

> Sue

>

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The microwave popcorn issue has already been solved. The bags are

toxic, the people that work there have a class action lawsuit.

According to the news use a brown paper bag to pop the popcorn, I have

not tried it yet. Of course I cannot handle any fragrances, cleaning

products, candles, etc.

>

> Dear Sue,

> I do the same thing. I cant even handle the smell of microwave

popcorn

> Janet

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Absolutely! I definitely noticed increased fatigue after starting the

antibiotic protocol (AP) -- couldn't wait to get into bed, sometimes

as early as 7:00 p.m.! The most severe/intense fatigue must have

lasted a couple of months (I've forgotten, thankfully :-) and it

gradually improved to the point that now, I'm " fatigue free " :-) I do

remember Dr. Franco saying that the fatigue is often the last symptom

to improve, and that was the case for me.

Just remember that the increased fatigue is part of the Jarisch-

Herxheimer reaction. I noticed lots of things worsening those first

few months, and they seemed to take turns. There were days the

fatigue was my overriding complaint, and the next day my arms and legs

would turn into noodles (I have, or " had " dermatomyositis...a skin and

muscle disease in the RA family). As the AP took hold, each and every

symptom improved -- a lot!

~Connie :-)

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> Hello everyone

> Has anyone been feeling soooooooooooo tired and exhausted at the

beginning of the AP?

>

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I'm assuming that you have already removed the sources of moisture and tried

HEPA filtration, etc..so I won't go into that. But sometimes it takes time

to move.. and you're sick..

Have you tried cholestyramine - Its a prescription drug, but it can 'bind'

many (but not all) mold mycotoxins from the bile - where they collect in

many people.. and recirculate in enterohepatic recirculation -

Cholestyramine helped me a lot.

( Read the materials at moldwarriors.com )

Sometimes its enough so that after a week or so, you feel better. At least

this is what happened for me.... I was really sick and feeling incredibly

weak, and the cholestyramine reduced both the length and severity of the

symptoms from each exposure, so that eventually, when combined with 3 air

filters and air blowing through my mold-ridden apt 24/7 I could get well

enough to move... Don't stay - this situation seems like it could kill you

if you don't evacuate.. Seriously.

I'd also strongly recommend asking your doctor about, and taking

n-acetyl-cysteine for anything that involves the mucous membranes of the

nasal passages and the lungs.. Many people who have breathing issues have

found it to help with them, and its also an incredibly powerful antioxidant

that helps the body reduce the damage caused by some mold toxins. Your

mileage may vary, but I try to take it every day at least twice.. (500 mg

each time)

Alpha-lipoic acid is also a very powerful antioxidant that helps the body

utilize other antioxidants more effectively as well. Molds are different,

and some reactions are allergic and some are to the toxins, so its difficult

to suggest 'catch all' solutions.. besides mold avoidance.. but these are

the best harm reduction strategies I know of..

Important!!! ****Get out of there as quickly as you can*****

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--- In low dose naltrexone , Gloud Blaikie <hysavy@...>

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> I have a question does the dosage of ldn that a person takes regulate

> how long the pituitary gland will be shut down.. at night to produce

> more endorphines?/ and would it depend on regular endorphin

production

> ina person? carol

>

--

Seems logical the larger the dose the longer the shut down but that's

only my guess. Maybe Cindi Lenz can help out here.

Artie

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oh no the pressure. the answer to the question is I'm not sure. cyndior maybe its so late that i can't reason it rhough but i will find outOn Jun 27, 2006, at 6:09 PM, Art wrote:>> I have a question does the dosage of ldn that a person takes regulate > how long the pituitary gland will be shut down.. at night to produce > more endorphines?/ and would it depend on regular endorphin production > ina person? carol>--Seems logical the larger the dose the longer the shut down but that's only my guess. Maybe Cindi Lenz can help out here.Artie

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I dont think LDN shuts down the pituitary. What it does is block the receptors that would normally receive the endorphins that are produced BY the pituitary. These receptors then send a message to the pituitary that it needs to create and send over a lot more endorphins, because the last batch didnt get through, and the receptors will need MORE than normal now to make up for it. Endorphins are responsible for regulating the immune system, a lot more endorphins means a lot more regulation.

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: question

oh no the pressure. the answer to the question is I'm not sure.

cyndi

or maybe its so late that i can't reason it rhough but i will find out

On Jun 27, 2006, at 6:09 PM, Art wrote:

>> I have a question does the dosage of ldn that a person takes regulate > how long the pituitary gland will be shut down.. at night to produce > more endorphines?/ and would it depend on regular endorphin production > ina person? carol>--Seems logical the larger the dose the longer the shut down but that's only my guess. Maybe Cindi Lenz can help out here.Artie

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this is good:

Low Dose Naltrexone Explained

Naltrexone (Low Dose Naltrexone)

The following explains Low Dose Naltrexone (also known as LDN) from

a layperson's perspective that everyone should be able to

understand.

Please note that we are not medical doctors, and that there is no

formal proof of the following statements; they are merely informed

hypotheses. You should always do your own research and consult with

your doctor before undertaking any medical treatment.

The simple explanation: Naltrexone is an FDA approved drug (1984)

that was originally intended to treat people suffering from opium

(e.g., heroin) addiction. It treated these addictions by blocking

the " pleasant " effects from the drug, so addicts who took it did not

get " high " anymore.

How does it block the " high? " There are receptors in our brain that

an opioid like heroin would use to get into the cell and do its

deed. Naltrexone blocks those receptors, so the heroin can't have an

effect. Think about it like a puzzle piece-- some brain cells have a

piece that accepts opium and its derivatives, and the Naltrexone

simply matches that piece. When the heroin floats around, it has no

where to go.

OK, that's all well and good, but what relevance is there to

Multiple Sclerosis? Well, those opiod receptors in our brains are

not JUST for receiving drugs like heroin-- our bodies actually

produce opiods every day, among other things, we produce a set of

hormones called endorphins. So if you were to take Naltrexone, you

would actually block the reception of something your body produces.

These hormones, as it turns out, play a very important part in

controlling the immune system. Keep this in mind for what we'll talk

about below.

The FDA-approved dosage for heroin addicts was 50 milligrams per

day. This ensured that those receptors were blocked all day and

there was no chance that any heroin could connect with a cell and

give the user a " high. " BUT a medical doctor named Dr. Bihari found

that if you give someone a much lower dose, say THREE milligrams

instead of 50, you would not block the receptors all day, but just

for a couple of hours. After that, everything would function as

normal.

But the human body is funny-- when you block something, it often

responds by producing more. In other words, if you were to take

Naltrexone at a low dose (Low Dose Naltrexone, even!) you would

block the receptors for a couple hours. The body would notice that

it was not receiving the endorphins it produced, so it would

think " Since they're not getting though, I must not be producing

enough-- turn it up! "

The gland responsible for producing the endorphins, called the

pituitary, would respond by producing significantly more. Not enough

to cause any problems, but enough to make a difference. So how can

this all matter for Multiple Sclerosis? Remember how we discussed

above that the endorphins actually regulate the immune system? Well,

in Multiple Sclerosis, the immune system is malfunctioning-- it's

attacking it's own body. Anything that helps regulate, control, and

tame the immune system could potentially have a positive effect on

MS. And that's exactly what some people who take LDN report-- a halt

of the progression of the disease, and even some improvement in

symptoms.

Adding some scientific validity are studies that show that in MS

patients, the pituitary gland (which produces endorphins) shrinks as

the disease progresses. This shrinkage can be assumed to correspond

with less endorphin production, though the link is not concrete. The

million dollar question is: is the pituitary gland shrinking BECAUSE

of the MS, in which case fixing the pituitary is more like treating

a symptom rather than the cause, OR is the pituitary smaller in

people who have multiple sclerosis and could potentially be a, if

not the, cause of the disease in the first place? In other words, is

a shrunken pituitary a cause of MS or is it an effect?

If it's a cause, making up for the lower endorphin output by taking

something like LDN could have significant positive implications.

There is a catch to all of this-- there are no formal, clinical

trials on taking low dose naltrexone for multiple sclerosis. All

there is is speculation, a few doctors backing it, and most

remarkably, many positive testimonials from patients.

Source: This Is MS Unbiased Multiple Sclerosis Community

http://www.thisisms.com

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> > I have a question does the dosage of ldn that a person takes

regulate

> > how long the pituitary gland will be shut down.. at night to

produce

> > more endorphines?/ and would it depend on regular endorphin

> production

> > ina person? carol

> >

>

> --

>

> Seems logical the larger the dose the longer the shut down but

that's

> only my guess. Maybe Cindi Lenz can help out here.

>

> Artie

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Hi Laurie,

I don't know of anything you are missing. I flushed 9 times with no

" help " from the established medical world. I got about 50 marble

sized stones out the first time, anywhere from 200-450 out subsequent

times, and ended up with 50 or less bb sized stones the last few

times. I feel better than ever. No allergies... Haven't been sick

enough to miss work for a couple of years now... I'm healthy enough

to need NO OTC or pharmeceutical drugs or surgeries. I don't know of

any reason I need input from a doctor right now, but that's just my

opinion. Everyone needs to make the decision best for themselves :)

The Lord has been very good to me without the help of doctors.

Doctors have only a few tools in their shed. Their tools aren't

always the most helpful for a given health need.

Best Regards,

Vince

>

> If I already know I have gallstones, and already know I won't have

> surgery and won't take synthetic meds - is there any reason to go to

> the doc or to get a scan? I have such classic symptoms, plus my

> bilirubin level is way up, I'm thinkin' there's no need to pay a

> doctor to tell me what I already know and just have to once again get

> treated like a red-headed step child because I choose the holistic

> approach.

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, sorry the heat is bothering you so, but I don't know. There are a lot

of possible reasons for heat intolerance:

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/sym/temperature_sensitivity.htm

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003094.htm

Here is drug information that lists " heat sensitivity " as a side effect of

prednisone:

http://www.hmc.psu.edu/transplants/patient/meds/prednisone.htm

I would mention it to your physician. In the meanwhile, keep drinking fluids

and have the air conditioning on at all times!

Not an MD

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

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>

> I have a question for you. This summer the heat is bothering me to the

> extreme.

> The last couple of years the heat did not affect me , in fact half the

> time I was cold , especially if the air was on. During this time I was on

> Humeri, but this year I am on Prednsone and MTX. Could it be the

> Prednsone that is affecting me this way?

> Thanks in WI

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I live in Arizona where the summers are brutal and I didn't have much

of a problem with it until the symptoms of RA/fibro started showing

up. I didnt notice any difference in tolerance after I started on the

prednisone. So I was thinking that it was the RA or fibro that was

causing the being unable to tolerate the heat...who knows?? Sure wish

fall would get here though!!!...........jenna

>

>

> >

> > I have a question for you. This summer the heat is bothering me

to the

> > extreme.

> > The last couple of years the heat did not affect me , in fact

half the

> > time I was cold , especially if the air was on. During this time

I was on

> > Humeri, but this year I am on Prednsone and MTX. Could it be the

> > Prednsone that is affecting me this way?

> > Thanks in WI

> >

> >

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On July 18th Jenna wrote:

" I live in Arizona where the summers are brutal " <snip>

Yeah, but it is a dry heat :>)

Glendale

" il faut d'abord durer " Hemingway

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You want brutal summer? Come to Chicago, we are in the middle of a heat wave. It

is over 100 degrees and humid like you wouldn't believe. I am all sweaty

[dripping wet] going from my front door to my car door. This is a true case of

" il faut d'abord durer! " I am not going to " durer " too much .... I am melting

away.... alas, not the little love-handle :(

Kennedy <ikennedy2@...> wrote:

On July 18th Jenna wrote:

" I live in Arizona where the summers are brutal " <snip>

Yeah, but it is a dry heat :>)

Glendale

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Does anyone have the problem of being woreout all the time, and constantly sick

to your stomach, and everything you eat or drink run right through you?

I have been on enbrel for one month and one week, and it all started after the

second shot,but I am not sure if it is just the enbrel, or a combo of

everything,or if I am trying to get sick. Any thoughts or suggestions will be

helpful, I don't want to aggreavate my doctor until my next apt.in a couple of

weeks.If it keeps on I will hoard in on my daughters apt.

Rhonda

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HI

Were all using it as an abreviation of Methotrexate.

I dont know if youre familiar with it, but it is a

very common drug used to control R.A. Its also a very

long word!!! Hope that helps.

--- jean macintosh <ctsofa@...> wrote:

> I ve worked out that DX stands for diagnosis but

> waht does MX stand for?- i'm still new to all this

>

> cheers

> Jean

>

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> Try the all-new . " The New Version is

> radically easier to use " – The Wall Street Journal

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Not sure, unless it was a typo for MTX which is methotrexate

>

> I ve worked out that DX stands for diagnosis but waht does MX stand

for?- i'm still new to all this

>

> cheers

> Jean

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In a message dated 9/13/2006 10:09:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, mwin7906@... writes:

Did anyone get there implants in 1992 or around? My friend got hers about seven years ago and she said her doc said she should replace hers every ten years. I don't ever remember my doctor telling me that and I don't think I would have gotten them if I had known that. I just knew that there was possibility of rupture and other complications.PS. I'm excited.. I got my appointment with Dr. LuFeng this morning..Oct. 5th here I come!!

My first ones were implanted 1997, and the second ones 1999 (due to leaky valves). At no time was I ever told they need replaced -EVER, unless they ruptured or leaked -in which case they glorified how the doctor would replace them for free. The only complications I was warned of, I'm thinking, were leakage, rupture, bleeding, infection, shifting, and rippling... I thought if I could come up with $8,000 I was set with otherwise problem free cleavage for life. Had I been told they needed replaced every 7-10 years, I wouldn't have gotten them. I knew I couldn't afford that. I'd saved for years, and years, and borrowed money as it was.

I think MOST of us weren't informed, and trusted our doctors.

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Breast implants have a life expectancy of 10 years or less.

Lynda

At 08:02 AM 9/13/2006, you wrote:

>Did anyone get there implants in 1992 or around? My friend got hers

>about seven years ago and she said her doc said she should replace

>hers every ten years. I don't ever remember my doctor telling me that

>and I don't think I would have gotten them if I had known that. I just

>knew that there was possibility of rupture and other complications.

>

>PS. I'm excited.. I got my appointment with Dr. LuFeng this

>morning..Oct. 5th here I come!!

>

>

>

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When did you have yours and did the doctor tell you that...mine did

not.

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- In , Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

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> Breast implants have a life expectancy of 10 years or less.

>

> Lynda

>

> At 08:02 AM 9/13/2006, you wrote:

>

> >Did anyone get there implants in 1992 or around? My friend got

hers

> >about seven years ago and she said her doc said she should replace

> >hers every ten years. I don't ever remember my doctor telling me

that

> >and I don't think I would have gotten them if I had known that. I

just

> >knew that there was possibility of rupture and other

complications.

> >

> >PS. I'm excited.. I got my appointment with Dr. LuFeng this

> >morning..Oct. 5th here I come!!

> >

> >

> >

> >

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