Re: dark circles under eyes

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Dr. Goldberg told me the dark circles are from allergies and congestion. He

referred to them as " allergic shiners " . My son has them, but they've improved

since he's been on decongestants, nasal spray, and a humidifier in his room when

the weather is dry.

Donna

Hard to fall asleep

I have a 7 years old daughter with autism. We have been on protocol

since May of 2002. For the past 2 years it takes my daughter 2-3 hours to

fall asleep. If she is not sleeping by 12:00 AM I am giving her Benadryl.

So far that is the only thing that can help. Also she has dark circles

under her eyes. Yes, we went through Valtrex and that did not help. After

reading an article on phenol - I took raisons and grapes off her diet. That

helped alot with the headaches but not dark circles. I do not know if

sleeping and dark circles are related. Any ideas?

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Thanks, I will try humidifier tonight and see if it will help.

>From: " Donnaaron " <donnaaron@...>

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>Subject: Re: dark circles under eyes

>Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:37:57 -0800

>

>Dr. Goldberg told me the dark circles are from allergies and congestion.

>He referred to them as " allergic shiners " . My son has them, but they've

>improved since he's been on decongestants, nasal spray, and a humidifier in

>his room when the weather is dry.

>

>Donna

> Hard to fall asleep

>

>

> I have a 7 years old daughter with autism. We have been on protocol

> since May of 2002. For the past 2 years it takes my daughter 2-3 hours

>to

> fall asleep. If she is not sleeping by 12:00 AM I am giving her

>Benadryl.

> So far that is the only thing that can help. Also she has dark circles

> under her eyes. Yes, we went through Valtrex and that did not help.

>After

> reading an article on phenol - I took raisons and grapes off her diet.

>That

> helped alot with the headaches but not dark circles. I do not know if

> sleeping and dark circles are related. Any ideas?

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Donna....what decongestant is your son taking? Which nansal spray?

And how old is your son? DR G wants us to possibly start a

decongestant and nasal spray soon so I was curious as to what works.

> Dr. Goldberg told me the dark circles are from allergies and

congestion. He referred to them as " allergic shiners " . My son has

them, but they've improved since he's been on decongestants, nasal

spray, and a humidifier in his room when the weather is dry.

>

> Donna

> Hard to fall asleep

>

>

> I have a 7 years old daughter with autism. We have been on

protocol

> since May of 2002. For the past 2 years it takes my daughter 2-3

hours to

> fall asleep. If she is not sleeping by 12:00 AM I am giving her

Benadryl.

> So far that is the only thing that can help. Also she has dark

circles

> under her eyes. Yes, we went through Valtrex and that did not

help. After

> reading an article on phenol - I took raisons and grapes off her

diet. That

> helped alot with the headaches but not dark circles. I do not

know if

> sleeping and dark circles are related. Any ideas?

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I've also always thought of dark circles as allergy indicators but recently

learned that they can also be a sign of a stressed liver. One more thing to

consider if you've taken out all the allergens (though next to impossible I

know with inhalants).

Be careful with humidifiers especially if you live in a mold-prone area since

they can lead to major mold problems in the room you use them in, especially

if you have wall paper. Speaking from experience here .

As for getting to sleep, in addition to looking at foods, consider using a

weighted blanket. You can make one or buy them from many places that sell OT

items online. They're a bit pricey but well worth the money if you have a

wiggly or sleepless kid, especially one that has difficulty getting settled

at night. Lavendar aromatherapy oil sprayed on the pillow can also help

sometimes. We used to have a wonderful pillow made from flaxseed with

lavendar we could heat in the microwave. Putting that in the bed with my son

always sent him off to sleep quickly even when he was going through his

night-partying periods. Doing a websearch on aromatherapy pillows will

probably bring up several sources since I've seen them at many wholistic

health fairs recently.

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

Thank you very much for the info. Believe it or not last week we did a

blood test to check liver and it was a little bit elevated.

>From: Googahly@...

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>

>Subject: Re: Re: dark circles under eyes

>Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:12:45 EST

>

>I've also always thought of dark circles as allergy indicators but recently

>learned that they can also be a sign of a stressed liver. One more thing

>to

>consider if you've taken out all the allergens (though next to impossible I

>know with inhalants).

>

>Be careful with humidifiers especially if you live in a mold-prone area

>since

>they can lead to major mold problems in the room you use them in,

>especially

>if you have wall paper. Speaking from experience here .

>

>As for getting to sleep, in addition to looking at foods, consider using a

>weighted blanket. You can make one or buy them from many places that sell

>OT

>items online. They're a bit pricey but well worth the money if you have a

>wiggly or sleepless kid, especially one that has difficulty getting settled

>at night. Lavendar aromatherapy oil sprayed on the pillow can also help

>sometimes. We used to have a wonderful pillow made from flaxseed with

>lavendar we could heat in the microwave. Putting that in the bed with my

>son

>always sent him off to sleep quickly even when he was going through his

>night-partying periods. Doing a websearch on aromatherapy pillows will

>probably bring up several sources since I've seen them at many wholistic

>health fairs recently.

>Gaylen

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, sorry I've taken so long to answer. We've been out of town...went to

Disneyland/CA Adventure for 's birthday (went great -- loved the special

needs pass!).

We've been giving Zyrtec at night - on it's own I'm not all that

impressed, but the nasal spray is Nasonex, and it really seems to do the job of

keeping him clear. They were both prescribed by Dr. Goldberg. During the day,

Dr. G wanted us to give the yellow Triaminic if he needed it, but 's ears

and cheeks turned bright red, probably from the coloring, so we switched to

Dimetapp Cold & Allergy, but only if he's obviously congested. When he has a

cold, Dr. G has us use Nasocort spray instead of the Nasonex.

Donna

Hard to fall asleep

>

>

> I have a 7 years old daughter with autism. We have been on

protocol

> since May of 2002. For the past 2 years it takes my daughter 2-3

hours to

> fall asleep. If she is not sleeping by 12:00 AM I am giving her

Benadryl.

> So far that is the only thing that can help. Also she has dark

circles

> under her eyes. Yes, we went through Valtrex and that did not

help. After

> reading an article on phenol - I took raisons and grapes off her

diet. That

> helped alot with the headaches but not dark circles. I do not

know if

> sleeping and dark circles are related. Any ideas?

>

>

>

>

>

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>

> Hi all,

>

> Can anyone tell me if pineapple is a phenol?

Yes, very high salicylate.

Either

> that, or this young man is allergic to pineapple.

Some people are allergic to pineapple. If so, don't give enzymes with

bromelain.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> I am looking to find out an answer for the dark circles under eyes

> which are more and more visible in my dauyghter's case.

> I figure out that she ussualy gets them after too much avocados or

> bananas...

> Can there be any other foods that can cause these ?

Bananas and avocados are both high amine, avocados are also high salicylate.

Consider phenol issues

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

> DD and DS have been on Houston enzymes for 10 days now. Both have

> also been on antibiotics...dd for acute sinus infection, dd for 7th

> ear infection. Both have dark circles under their eyes that seemed

> to appear after the introduction of enzymes. Could this be from

the

> enzymes, just a coincidence with the illness, die-off or both?

Can be both. Which enzymes are you using?

Can also be yeast, which antibiotics will tend to increase.

Dana

[Guest guest]

We are using the Houston products (HN Zyme Prime, No Fenol and

Peptizyde).

> > DD and DS have been on Houston enzymes for 10 days now. Both

have

> > also been on antibiotics...dd for acute sinus infection, dd for

7th

> > ear infection. Both have dark circles under their eyes that

seemed

> > to appear after the introduction of enzymes. Could this be from

> the

> > enzymes, just a coincidence with the illness, die-off or both?

>

>

> Can be both. Which enzymes are you using?

>

> Can also be yeast, which antibiotics will tend to increase.

>

> Dana

[Guest guest]

Can dark circles under the eyes be an indication of an allergy to the

enzymes? Neither of my kids have shown signs of food allergies.

> > > DD and DS have been on Houston enzymes for 10 days now. Both

> have

> > > also been on antibiotics...dd for acute sinus infection, dd for

> 7th

> > > ear infection. Both have dark circles under their eyes that

> seemed

> > > to appear after the introduction of enzymes. Could this be

from

> > the

> > > enzymes, just a coincidence with the illness, die-off or both?

> >

> >

> > Can be both. Which enzymes are you using?

> >

> > Can also be yeast, which antibiotics will tend to increase.

> >

> > Dana

[Guest guest]

> We are using the Houston products (HN Zyme Prime, No Fenol and

> Peptizyde).

Dark circles can be a problem with the enzymes, yeast die off, or

that he is eating a food that the enzymes don't address.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Can dark circles under the eyes be an indication of an allergy to

the

> enzymes? Neither of my kids have shown signs of food allergies.

Yes, or allergy to one of the foods he is eating that is not helped

by the enzymes.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> DD's been on Houston enzymes and Culturelle for almost 5 weeks now

> but still has dark circles under her eyes.

Which enzymes?

>> I can't pinpoint what is

> causing this. Any ideas?

Something is not tolerated. Might be enzymes, might be another food

or supplement she is eating that the enzymes are not addressing.

Might be something else like an environmental factor.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> To lighten dark circles under your eyes, wrap a grated raw potato in

> cheesecloth and apply to eyelids for 15-20 minutes. Wipe off residue

> and apply an eye cream. Results: Circles will lighten and skin

> tighten.

>

A series of liver flushes, plus liver supporting antioxidants and raw

foods, will do it too.

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

Hi

It is nice to hear that Ian is doing well and sleeping well too. I

forgot the name of that dark line, but it is a sign of allergies.

Shouldn't have anything to do with the helmet. Is he sniffling or

sneezing? Or did you try out a new food?

Sandy Willow's mom Cranio Germany Grad 02/04

--- In Plagiocephaly , " soukasaurus " <soukup@c...>

wrote:

> Our son, Ian (5-1/2 months) received his helmet last week and has

> been wearing fulltime now for past 3 days. He's doing great so

far

> and seems to sleep well. (He's always been a good sleeper -

aren't

> we lucky!!!!) However, I have noticed for past 2 days that he is

> getting some darkened circles/bags under his eyes. At first I

> thought it was just me being neurotic, but my husband noticed it

as

> well (without me saying something first). He's sleeping as much

as

> he did prior to helmet .... I'm wondering if perhap it's not the

> same quality of sleep now that helmet is on. I have a call into

the

> orthosist to see if he has any experience with this. Just curious

> if anyone out there encountered anything like this.

>

[Guest guest]

Like Sandy said, dark circles can be a sign of allergies, they're

called " allergy shiners " . Being springtime, it may just be a

coincidence in timing with the helmet.

Connor (PPO helmet 5/4/04)

St. Louis, Mo.

> Our son, Ian (5-1/2 months) received his helmet last week and has

> been wearing fulltime now for past 3 days. He's doing great so far

> and seems to sleep well. (He's always been a good sleeper - aren't

> we lucky!!!!) However, I have noticed for past 2 days that he is

> getting some darkened circles/bags under his eyes. At first I

> thought it was just me being neurotic, but my husband noticed it as

> well (without me saying something first). He's sleeping as much as

> he did prior to helmet .... I'm wondering if perhap it's not the

> same quality of sleep now that helmet is on. I have a call into the

> orthosist to see if he has any experience with this. Just curious

> if anyone out there encountered anything like this.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Aside from the dark circles I'm glad Ian is doing well in his

helmet. I'm sure if he's sleeping as much the circles aren't from

the helmet. Like the others suggested, maybe he's just reacting to

something new in the springtime air.

, mom to Hannah, DOCband #3 3/30

Cape Cod, Ma

--- In Plagiocephaly , " soukasaurus " <soukup@c...>

wrote:

> Our son, Ian (5-1/2 months) received his helmet last week and has

> been wearing fulltime now for past 3 days. He's doing great so

far

> and seems to sleep well. (He's always been a good sleeper -

aren't

> we lucky!!!!) However, I have noticed for past 2 days that he is

> getting some darkened circles/bags under his eyes. At first I

> thought it was just me being neurotic, but my husband noticed it

as

> well (without me saying something first). He's sleeping as much

as

> he did prior to helmet .... I'm wondering if perhap it's not the

> same quality of sleep now that helmet is on. I have a call into

the

> orthosist to see if he has any experience with this. Just curious

> if anyone out there encountered anything like this.

>

[Guest guest]

AAhhh - interesting .... thanks so much for your thoughts. I'm so glad to hear it may not be the helmet. There are so many things flying out in the air outside I wouldn't doubt that it is some reaction to pollen,etc. Thanks again!

Re: Dark Circles Under Eyes

Like Sandy said, dark circles can be a sign of allergies, they'recalled "allergy shiners". Being springtime, it may just be acoincidence in timing with the helmet. Connor (PPO helmet 5/4/04)St. Louis, Mo.> Our son, Ian (5-1/2 months) received his helmet last week and has > been wearing fulltime now for past 3 days. He's doing great so far > and seems to sleep well. (He's always been a good sleeper - aren't > we lucky!!!!) However, I have noticed for past 2 days that he is > getting some darkened circles/bags under his eyes. At first I > thought it was just me being neurotic, but my husband noticed it as > well (without me saying something first). He's sleeping as much as > he did prior to helmet .... I'm wondering if perhap it's not the > same quality of sleep now that helmet is on. I have a call into the > orthosist to see if he has any experience with this. Just curious > if anyone out there encountered anything like this.> For more plagio info

[Guest guest]

Epsom Salts baths? No fenol enzymes?

Mandi in UK

:

Hi there my ASD daughter has had dark circles under her eyes since she

was 6 months old, and she is 23 months old now. We have tried

everything, allergy medicine, gf/cf diet, yeast treatment, melatonin,

and rotation diet to try to see any food intolerances. Nothing has

helped the dark circles. I hate them because they make her look really

sick. If this is a vitamin deficiency I would really like to know, so

I can get rid of these dark circles.

[Guest guest]

Dark circles are supposed to be a symptom of allergy. Blood gets

trapped because of nasal inflammation, so it looks dark for the same

reason that a bruise does--extra blood under the skin.

Jane

On Nov 3, 2004, at 12:42 PM, The Byk Family wrote:

> I remember reading that dark circles under the eyes is a sign of a

> particular vitamin deficiency but I can't remember which one.  My 18mo

> seemingly NT has been mildly ill & now has dark circles under his

> eyes.

>

> Any help?

>

> Thanks much.

>

> -Sara.

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

It's funny, someone asked me this same question yesterday because my

son had huge dark circles under his eyes, and my first thought was

allergy as well.

Then, someone reminded me of the TIME CHANGE (setting the clocks back)

and that he had been awake at 5 a.m. every day this week. I think

that is a major factor!!!

W.

AutismLink

>

> > I remember reading that dark circles under the eyes is a sign of a

> > particular vitamin deficiency but I can't remember which one. My

18mo

> > seemingly NT has been mildly ill & now has dark circles under his

> > eyes.

> >

> > Any help?

> >

> > Thanks much.

> >

> > -Sara.

> >

> >

> >

> > =======================================================

> >

[Guest guest]

If anything he's sleeping more than usual. Long afternoon naps.

I will think about whether his diet has changed.

The other thing is with it being fall there's a lot of mold in the air.

I do remember, though, a specific vitamin deficiency being mentioned with

this. ?

Thanks,

-Sara.

[Guest guest]

Hi there my ASD daughter has had dark circles under her eyes since she

was 6 months old, and she is 23 months old now. We have tried

everything, allergy medicine, gf/cf diet, yeast treatment, melatonin,

and rotation diet to try to see any food intolerances. Nothing has

helped the dark circles. I hate them because they make her look really

sick. If this is a vitamin deficiency I would really like to know, so

I can get rid of these dark circles.

Thanks

rochelle

[ ] Dark circles under eyes

I remember reading that dark circles under the eyes is a sign of a

particular vitamin deficiency but I can't remember which one. My 18mo

seemingly NT has been mildly ill & now has dark circles under his eyes.

Any help?

Thanks much.

-Sara.

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

Hi mandi I had cayla on no fenol for over a month with no results,

and she gets Epsom salt baths every night. We have tried

everything!!!!

Re: [ ] Dark circles under eyes

Epsom Salts baths? No fenol enzymes?

Mandi in UK

:

Hi there my ASD daughter has had dark circles under her eyes since

she

was 6 months old, and she is 23 months old now. We have tried

everything, allergy medicine, gf/cf diet, yeast treatment, melatonin,

and rotation diet to try to see any food intolerances. Nothing has

helped the dark circles. I hate them because they make her look really

sick. If this is a vitamin deficiency I would really like to know,

so

I can get rid of these dark circles.