Re: Stay tuned folks!

[Guest guest]

Dear Jani,

You are very brave to put this on line andto expose this.

Personally I think this ranks right up there with techs not having

you have any education, just otj or passing the PTCB. I do not think

it is enough!

Thanks so much for sharing.

You will be a leader to make that change!

Respectfully,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chem

> Jeanetta,

> I cannot say why the nursing programs do not require math. I

attend a private university in Houston, Tx, in the medical center.

I have not once had to take one math class. They gave us a list of

medication calculations to study and the next day we had a 10

question quiz which allowed to let us into our pharmacology class.

The University I do attend is very well know for its BSN program as

well, so I was actually surprised they did not require math. Most

excuses I hear about this subject is that a lot of the medications

already come pre-filled from the pharmacy. Which is not always

true, I mean I have been in the hospital before when I delivered my

son and I saw they did draw up some syringes right there in the

room..Personally, its very scary. I mean, I wouldn't want nurse

drawing up a syringe for me and she didn't know how to do drug

conversions/calculations...I believe we all need to think about that

next time we see a nurse drawing up a syringe. Before starting my

BSN I

> considered a number of schools, and there was only one that

required math and that math was algebra. As far as the ADN

(associate nursing programs) go, they are even worse, and most of

the general workforce in nursing are ADN's(RN). But I do hear right

now they are trying to pass a new law stating a RN with a ADN degree

will have to have a different license than those who have a BSN.

But, I also think some MD's are just as bad as calculating, My

father has his master in nursing and he has seen it time and time

again, an MD giving the wrong dose for a particular person, and if

he didn't catch it, it is then up to the nurse, if the nurse doesn't

catch it the last and final failsafe is the pharmacy.

>

> WHEWWW sorry i was so winded.....

> Jani

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Crystal ,

You are most Welcome to any and all the help that the moderator,

Dora, the resident pharmacist, Della, all the TEXPERTS and I can

provide. That is what we are here for.

Let's see: 2/10 = 1/5 or 20% while 3/10 = 33.33% I'd say that is

moderately peppered with math. I think older tests were about 50%

math and then law + assisting the RPh. I think today's tests have

much more assisting the RPh. I base this on the feedback that I get

on this site.

I would NOT worry about when others finished. What you do not know

is this: did they know so very little that they just chose any

lettered answer and turned it in? OR did they in fact know what they

were answering and are fast readers or quick processors of

information? OR Both? The fact remains each of us read, process and

answer at a different pace. This is why they give us 4 hours (or is

it 3). I myself too all the time they gave me! I went back over and

over my answers. They say this is not a good thing. But I got a 859

so I say go for the time you need. I also challenged two questions.

So that took a bit of my time.

I am glad your experience was good. I am sure you passed,keep us

posted.

Thank you for sharing with us,

Jeanetta

> hey jeanetta,

>

> I did take the test----whew!!! It was not that bad my test did not

have a lot of math maybe 2 or 3 every 10 questions. I am so glad

that it is over with, now I feel like I am being tortured (waiting

on results) What made me nervous most of all was the people around

me finishing like within an hour and hour and half. I still

maintained my pace and finished the test with confidence which is

gradually fading now I am forced to wait on the results. I will be

sure to complete to poll once the scores come back. Once again,

thank you Jeanetta for all you do for us.

[Guest guest]

That is very odd to hear- I was in a BSN program in a private school

in Minnesota and we were required to take both Calculus and

Statistics, and then there was nursing math mixed into the general

nursing classes. (And before the Calculus class, you were required

to take a college algebra class or test out of it, which I was able

to do.) You also needed at least algebra-level math competency to

get through the chemistry classes. I don't understand how a BSN

program would let nurses through without even a stats class - you

need to be able to objectively read and understand clinical studies

and without an understanding of statistics you can't do that. I

could see if they were training LPNs, but BSNs generally work their

ways up into levels of more autonomy and even go on to become NPs.

> Jeanetta,

> I cannot say why the nursing programs do not require math. I

attend a private university in Houston, Tx, in the medical center.

I have not once had to take one math class. They gave us a list of

medication calculations to study and the next day we had a 10

question quiz which allowed to let us into our pharmacology class.

The University I do attend is very well know for its BSN program as

well, so I was actually surprised they did not require math. Most

excuses I hear about this subject is that a lot of the medications

already come pre-filled from the pharmacy. Which is not always

true, I mean I have been in the hospital before when I delivered my

son and I saw they did draw up some syringes right there in the

room..Personally, its very scary. I mean, I wouldn't want nurse

drawing up a syringe for me and she didn't know how to do drug

conversions/calculations...I believe we all need to think about that

next time we see a nurse drawing up a syringe. Before starting my

BSN I

> considered a number of schools, and there was only one that

required math and that math was algebra. As far as the ADN

(associate nursing programs) go, they are even worse, and most of

the general workforce in nursing are ADN's(RN). But I do hear right

now they are trying to pass a new law stating a RN with a ADN degree

will have to have a different license than those who have a BSN.

But, I also think some MD's are just as bad as calculating, My

father has his master in nursing and he has seen it time and time

again, an MD giving the wrong dose for a particular person, and if

he didn't catch it, it is then up to the nurse, if the nurse doesn't

catch it the last and final failsafe is the pharmacy.

>