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Old fashion telephones can be a problem for electrosensitives.

In that case a piezo telephones can be advised.

Most radios *with a wire* do contain a transformer, which gives magnetic

fields.

In that case a radio with batteries can be advised.

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Help - Two Questions

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> Questions for a friend who is unable to use computers.

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> 1. Are there any MP3s or radios are very low frequency???

> He is very very sensitive.

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> 2. Is it possible to develop sensitivities also to old fashion

> phones? If yes, which would be the telephone or if possible to

> get some type of protective cable for the old fashion phone?

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> Many thanks

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> Kooky

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What is a piezo telephone??

He is using a tiny 2 cm radio, with batteries,

and even this, he only tolerate for a few mins?

Any suggestions??

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> Old fashion telephones can be a problem for electrosensitives.

> In that case a piezo telephones can be advised.

>

> Most radios *with a wire* do contain a transformer, which gives magnetic

> fields.

> In that case a radio with batteries can be advised.

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> www.milieuziektes.nl

> www.milieuziektes.be

> www.hetbitje.nl

> checked by Norton

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> Help - Two Questions

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> > Questions for a friend who is unable to use computers.

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> > 1. Are there any MP3s or radios are very low frequency???

> > He is very very sensitive.

> >

> > 2. Is it possible to develop sensitivities also to old fashion

> > phones? If yes, which would be the telephone or if possible to

> > get some type of protective cable for the old fashion phone?

> >

> > Many thanks

> >

> > Kooky

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A piezo telephone is a phone where the element consists of an piezo element,

without a strong magnet.

Like http://www.vitalitools.nl/nl/communicatie/litefon.php

That is in dutch, but it gives you an impression.

Which country are yoy from ?

I think that a 2 cm radio is too close to the body.

Try a normal one, and place it farther away, like 2 meters.

Greetings,

Claessens

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www.milieuziektes.nl

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>> > Questions for a friend who is unable to use computers.

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>> > 1. Are there any MP3s or radios are very low frequency???

>> > He is very very sensitive.

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>> > 2. Is it possible to develop sensitivities also to old fashion

>> > phones? If yes, which would be the telephone or if possible to

>> > get some type of protective cable for the old fashion phone?

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>> > Many thanks

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>> > Kooky

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Thanks ,

I live in London, UK.

Kooky

From: charles <charles@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Help - Two Questions

Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 2:09 PM

 

A piezo telephone is a phone where the element consists of an piezo

element,

without a strong magnet.

Like http://www.vitalito ols.nl/nl/ communicatie/ litefon.php

That is in dutch, but it gives you an impression.

Which country are yoy from ?

I think that a 2 cm radio is too close to the body.

Try a normal one, and place it farther away, like 2 meters.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes. nl

www.milieuziektes. be

www.hetbitje. nl

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>> > Questions for a friend who is unable to use computers.

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>> > 1. Are there any MP3s or radios are very low frequency???

>> > He is very very sensitive.

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>> > 2. Is it possible to develop sensitivities also to old fashion

>> > phones? If yes, which would be the telephone or if possible to

>> > get some type of protective cable for the old fashion phone?

>> >

>> > Many thanks

>> >

>> > Kooky

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There are some speakerphones that don't plug into the AC power that may be

OK. Filtering the phoneline may help. A paper cup with a hole over the

bottom may be taped to the phone so it is not so close to the ear. You

could also try mu metal around the phone's speaker...

Bill

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Kooky <furstc0404@...> wrote:

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> From: charles <charles@... <charles%40milieuziektes.be>>

> Subject: Re: Re: Help - Two Questions

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> Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 2:09 PM

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> A piezo telephone is a phone where the element consists of an piezo

> element,

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> without a strong magnet.

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> Like http://www.vitalito ols.nl/nl/ communicatie/ litefon.php

>

>

> That is in dutch, but it gives you an impression.

>

> Which country are yoy from ?

>

> I think that a 2 cm radio is too close to the body.

>

> Try a normal one, and place it farther away, like 2 meters.

>

> Greetings,

>

> Claessens

>

> member Verband Baubiologie

>

> www.milieuziektes. nl

>

> www.milieuziektes. be

>

> www.hetbitje. nl

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> checked by Norton

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> Help - Two Questions

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> >> > 2. Is it possible to develop sensitivities also to old fashion

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> >> > phones? If yes, which would be the telephone or if possible to

>

> >> > get some type of protective cable for the old fashion phone?

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> >> > Many thanks

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> >> > Kooky

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In a message dated 01/03/2010 07:43:45 GMT Standard Time,

charles@... writes:

>> > Questions for a friend who is unable to use computers.

>> >

>> > 1. Are there any MP3s or radios are very low frequency???

>> > He is very very sensitive.

>> >

>> > 2. Is it possible to develop sensitivities also to old fashion

>> > phones? If yes, which would be the telephone or if possible to

>> > get some type of protective cable for the old fashion phone?

>> >

>> > Many thanks

>> >

>> > Kooky

PUK replies - MP3s are a problem for me after say 15mins use, I simply want

to tear the headphones off despite enjoying the music. I put this down to

the EMF pulses and spikes that are emitted by the headphones, any speaker

type device that uses electromagnets will do this, perhaps using a very

good quality old tape walkman would be better, less electronics ? As for

radios I dont have a problem with these as I am never more than 500mm from

these and obviously listen via the external speaker, but generally only use

battery powered ones.

As for old landline phones, I have had a problem with these for over 10yrs,

holding the handset to my ear cuases strangley enough a stinging sensation

which is more pronounced on the otherside of my head, the usual fuzziness

also occurs along with slower speech. I took an old speaker phone and

modified it by taking out the microphone and extending it onto a long wire then

attaching the mic to a small wooden pencil (non conductive)as a holder,

this worked well as I could get my distance from the telephone and the

socket, but still hear the caller very well. I have since found a speaker

phone

that has such good quality sound that I dont need the extender to use it as

the mic is very sensitive. I found that one of the reasons I could not

tolerate landline phones, - one they use a spaeker in the handset which

osscilates/pulses every time the caller speaks (that may include disturbing

background sounds as well) two, I found as most people on the site may recall

that my telephone cabling and my house wiring are contaminated to a VERY

excessive degree with the with low frequency signal emissions from a Plasma

TV over the road ! The signal seems unbelievably adept at crossing over and

coupling to anything conductive ( we must all be in a big circuit) so the

phone was litterally transfering this into my head and body, I hasten to

say that this phenomenon may have increased my ES exponentially over the last

few years, despite ironically working from home ( no more offices!) so

watch out as telephone lines more so than the actual telephone ie landline

type can be the harbinger of untold emissions ! Using a wireless phone a

least gives you a gap from this, but then gives you another problem.

puk

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Perhaps you could ask where those piezo telephones are sold in the UK.

- http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/

- http://www.mast-victims.org, who have also a forum

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

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Help - Two Questions

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>> >

>> >

>> > Questions for a friend who is unable to use computers.

>> >

>> > 1. Are there any MP3s or radios are very low frequency???

>> > He is very very sensitive.

>> >

>> > 2. Is it possible to develop sensitivities also to old fashion

>> > phones? If yes, which would be the telephone or if possible to

>> > get some type of protective cable for the old fashion phone?

>> >

>> > Many thanks

>> >

>> > Kooky

>> >

>> >

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> 2. Is it possible to develop sensitivities also to old fashion

> phones? If yes, which would be the telephone or if possible to

> get some type of protective cable for the old fashion phone?

We get many inquiries from people who are too sensitive to use a standard

telephone handset. We recommend using a corded phone which has a jack for a

headset. Then add an air tube headset with as many extension cords as

necessary. See http://www.lessemf.com/es.html#725

Emil

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