RE: Re: FW: emr protection?

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> I thought I'd check out your group. I already got one very helpful

> message from Marc. I'd still be interested to know what any others

> think are good devices. The more I can learn about this the better.

Note that besides EMF protection devices, some people benefit from

things like having their mercury dental filling removed, or changing

your diet and supplementation to things which help. Some examples

of standard foods which have helped me are: dates, avacados, bananas,

oatcakes. Some nonstandard things which have helped me are

sea-vegetables (kelp), chia seeds (these seem particularly powerful

to me, and I can only tolerate a very small amount per day), powdered

barley grass juice, probiotics (primal defense is a good one),

antioxidants (mega-H is a good one).

I'm much more tolerant of EMF than I used to be, but EMF protection

devices are only part of the solution for me. (although I never

heard of the Electroshield product that you were using before)

Marc

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emr protection?

> >

> >

> > hello from the USA,

> > I'm very electrically sensitive. I had a protective device made

> in

> > New Zealand called an Electroshield. It really worked. Alas, my

> wife ran

> > it through the washer with a pair of pants. I tried to order

> another one

> > & found the company that made them went out of business. Now I'm

> > desperate to find something else that works as well. I had something

> > called a Q Link & it was worthless.

> > I wondered if you might know of someone that could point me in

> the

> > right direction of a device that really works. Thanks.

> >

> > Mauersberger

> > town, Ohio

> > USA

> >

> >

> >

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> Have you done an EDTA challange to see specifically what's in you?

No, I always had the fear that I was too toxic to be able to handle

any sort of " challenge " . I had a hair mineral test once, which showed

I was too high in mercury, arsenic, and uranium. However, the

problem with hair tests is that it's not that important what's

in your hair -- it's more important what's in your thyroid,

your brain, your liver, etc. And no testing shows this

(except autopsies!).

In the years since, I've come to the conclusion that all

such challenges are meangingless anyway. All they do is show

whether or not your body is excreting metals. That really has

nothing to do with how much metal is in your body, or where

it is located. People can be loaded with metals yet not

be able to excrete it until they have the right nutrition.

And any accumulation of metals in one organ will have

dramatically different symptoms and treatment than an

accumulation of the same metal in some other organ.

As for the things I've tried to eliminate heavy metals,

I've gone through all sorts of things which are supposed

to chelate metals (NDF, Seagreens, CLNZ, Microhydrin,

cilantro, chlorella, etc.). However, I have found that

using Springlife polarizers and/or Quantum Products

cause the same sort of detoxification, plus have the

benefit of improving tolerance for EMF. So I've mostly

been using just these for detoxification, and supplementing

for the additional nutritional requirements needed to

handle the detox.

Occasionally I experiment with adding an extra supplement

for detox, but I usually quickly find that I'm overdoing

it. They say that the folks who are REALLY toxic require

about 5 years to return to normal, and I can tell that

I'm definitely in this category. And I've been at this

for about 3-4 years now.

Marc

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Careful what you wish for . I am interested to know the consistency and

characteristics of the stones you mention? Feel free to chat off-list if it's

a bit gross and personal. Thanks

Lachlan

Re: FW: emr protection?

> > Have you done an EDTA challange to see specifically what's in you?

>

> No, I always had the fear that I was too toxic to be able to handle

> any sort of " challenge " . I had a hair mineral test once, which

showed

> I was too high in mercury, arsenic, and uranium. However, the

> problem with hair tests is that it's not that important what's

> in your hair -- it's more important what's in your thyroid,

> your brain, your liver, etc. And no testing shows this

> (except autopsies!).

>

> In the years since, I've come to the conclusion that all

> such challenges are meangingless anyway. All they do is show

> whether or not your body is excreting metals. That really has

> nothing to do with how much metal is in your body, or where

> it is located. People can be loaded with metals yet not

> be able to excrete it until they have the right nutrition.

> And any accumulation of metals in one organ will have

> dramatically different symptoms and treatment than an

> accumulation of the same metal in some other organ.

>

> As for the things I've tried to eliminate heavy metals,

> I've gone through all sorts of things which are supposed

> to chelate metals (NDF, Seagreens, CLNZ, Microhydrin,

> cilantro, chlorella, etc.). However, I have found that

> using Springlife polarizers and/or Quantum Products

> cause the same sort of detoxification, plus have the

> benefit of improving tolerance for EMF. So I've mostly

> been using just these for detoxification, and supplementing

> for the additional nutritional requirements needed to

> handle the detox.

>

> Occasionally I experiment with adding an extra supplement

> for detox, but I usually quickly find that I'm overdoing

> it. They say that the folks who are REALLY toxic require

> about 5 years to return to normal, and I can tell that

> I'm definitely in this category. And I've been at this

> for about 3-4 years now.

>

> Marc

It can unfortunately take a lifetime in my experience. It's like

going through life with a hundred pound weight on your back. I think

there is also an interplay with one or more pathogenic microorganisms

that have become permanent residents of the host. Their numbers wax &

wane as our wounded immune systems try to totally eliminate them in

vain.

This whole package, I think can also be called & is a variation

of : chronic fatigue syndrome, gulf war syndrome, multiple chemical

sensitivity, food allergies, encephelomyopathy, epstein barre viral

infection, candida infection, & probably other variations.

For instance, I've experienced problems with & been diagnosed in

the past with: food & inhalant allergies, multiple chemical

sensitivity, candida overgrowth, & chronic fatigue syndrome

As I've fought to rid myself of this horrible affliction certain

things have disappeared & others have taken prominence.

For instance, this year is the 1st year of my life that I haven't

had any allergies, no food, inhalent, or chemical allergies when they

totally ran my life for a number of year. I would have to attribute

this miraculous development to a program of colonic cleansings

followed by liver flushes at 3 week intervals for about 6 months. My

liver was chock full of stones which come out in large numbers on the

1st several flushes ,probably opening up passages in the liver that

have been partially obstrocted for years.

In addition I've finially gotten the right gut flora in my

digestive tract after years of trying to rid myself of yeast.

I've heard this whole situation explained as being like an onion,

where when one layer is peeled away there is another one on top. It

was always there but you could'nt recognize it because the previous

layer muddied the water too much. Peel it away that layer and another

takes prominence & on & on it goes & where or if it ever stops,

nobody, at least not me, knows..

I suspect that I still have a chronic viral infection that is

still a factor in the electrical sensitivity that seems to wax &

wane in conjunction with the malaise & other symptoms that make me

miserable periodically.

I wish it were just like a heart attack or something where the

cause & treatment was already known But unfortunately it's far from

that.

M.