Guest guest Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Good Day Everyone! Question.... I bought a set of point probes in Vegas last year and was instructed to clean them by boiling and using alcohol. I have been diligent and everything was fine until........yesterday I opened the plastic bag I store them in and they have acquired a most beautiful shade of blue/gray/black patina! So, the question is, unless STAINLESS steel is supposed to do this, which I don't think is the case, can I get the stainless steel look back. I paid a lot of money for this stuff and it looks pretty funky. I definitely can't put them in someones mouth looking like this and I don't want it to repeat on my backup set. Namaste, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 The probes are silver coated. The substrateis brass for high conductivity. Staineless steel is less good in this application Boiling in sulphurous water or water containing conmtaminants may cause wa reaction with the silver. Silver is pretty inert but all chemaical reactions accelerate with temperature. Thus autoclave are used where there is steam which is not contaminated. The manuafcatures nor the manual recommends boiling Alcohol immersion is satisfactory. Alt. use a cold sterilant available form dental/med supply shops. To restore try some silver cleaner then alcohol clean with toothbrush or similar Kelsey PhD QXCI User Manual Author, Advanced Trainer Visit www.qxcisynergy.co.uk for tech infos tarnished point probes > > > Good Day Everyone! > Question.... I bought a set of point probes in Vegas last year and was > instructed to clean them by boiling and using alcohol. I have been diligent > and everything was fine until........yesterday I opened the plastic bag I > store them in and they have acquired a most beautiful shade of blue/gray/black > patina! So, the question is, unless STAINLESS steel is supposed to do this, > which I don't think is the case, can I get the stainless steel look back. I > paid a lot of money for this stuff and it looks pretty funky. I definitely > can't put them in someones mouth looking like this and I don't want it to > repeat on my backup set. > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > ............................................ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 try cleaning with baking soda. Shouldn't be a major problem. is Rotella, M.Ac. > > Good Day Everyone! > Question.... I bought a set of point probes in Vegas last year and was > instructed to clean them by boiling and using alcohol. I have been diligent > and everything was fine until........yesterday I opened the plastic bag I > store them in and they have acquired a most beautiful shade of blue/gray/black > patina! So, the question is, unless STAINLESS steel is supposed to do this, > which I don't think is the case, can I get the stainless steel look back. I > paid a lot of money for this stuff and it looks pretty funky. I definitely > can't put them in someones mouth looking like this and I don't want it to > repeat on my backup set. > Namaste, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 > > Good Day Everyone! > Question.... I bought a set of point probes in Vegas last year and was > instructed to clean them by boiling and using alcohol. I have been diligent > and everything was fine until........yesterday I opened the plastic bag I > store them in and they have acquired a most beautiful shade of blue/gray/black > patina! So, the question is, unless STAINLESS steel is supposed to do this, > which I don't think is the case, can I get the stainless steel look back. I > paid a lot of money for this stuff and it looks pretty funky. I definitely > can't put them in someones mouth looking like this and I don't want it to > repeat on my backup set. > Namaste, > Hello People, Savage from New Zealand Reply from DR Alastair Bourne Ph.D. (Alastair is the designer, developer and tester of the QXCI / Scio attachments) Re tarnished tips. let me first point out that good housekeeping in a clinic will tell one to clean them. A basic principle of the principles of practice and philosophy of running a clinic and being a clinician is that one practices clean needle techniques and clean equipment techniques to keep ones patients safe. You are morally required to do this if you do not belong to an assoc that demands it. I would now like to point out what is going on here. Stainless steel is not employed in the manufacture of good quality EAV equip that gives the operator optimally functioning equipment. Silver is the product the tips are made up with. Silver is 100% more conductive than Stainless that is the most important reason for its use. There is another, mercury is a component of stainless steel . All you need to do with a tarnished tip is clean it . Tarnish will not poison one by the way. 's reply The Probe tips are Silver Plated, not stainless steel, stainless is nasty stuff, it contains Chromium, Nickel and Mercury, ( most stainless steel welders don't live past 70, I know I have worked with them. A number of my (ex- welder) patients come up with heavy metals) Nickel is toxic, knives and forks are not nickel plated for this reason, Silver plating is safe, that's why tableware is silver plated. I have not coated the tips with anything to stop tarnishing as I want to keep everything chemical free To Clean = Chemical (quickest) " Silvo " Like " Brasso " for cleaning brass, Contains Ammonia Chemical free = 4 Teaspoons of salt, 4 Teaspoons of Baking soda ( bicarbonate of soda) Add to 1 litre of water, soak for 10 minutes and dry with a soft cloth or paper towel. Re the pads. To clean use hot soapy water or meths or better still surgical meths To stick the pads to the patient, buy the white surgical tape from a pharmacy , or you can use the gel pads that are used in the hospitals ,acupuncture and pain clinics, but these have to thrown away and renewed for each patient as the gel is in contact with each persons skin Another note, the BLACK side of the MATS ( when mats are supplied with a grey on one side and black on the other ) are to touch the patients skin for more direct contact Thank you Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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