Re: Infrasound detector - does it exist?

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I'm extremely interested in this because that is exactly what I experience too!!

From: rticleone <rticleone@...>

Subject: Infrasound detector - does it exist?

Date: Thursday, 19 February, 2009, 9:26 PM

Some of you might remember that I posted a message some time ago about

my mother who hears " the hum " (at least that's what we think it is),

and experiences symptoms such as, hearing it, feeling a vibration,

agitation, fatigue, etc...

Infrasound was suggested as something to look up. It's been a while

since I did - I can say we don't live remotely within the vicinity of

wind turbines, and she can hear and feel it in our house (and certain

other places, but not ever place, so she's obviously very sensitive to

it) even with the power shut off. We have no TETRA or anything like that.

I also wonder(ed) if, even though I don't notice it like she does,

being in an environment where it's present could add to the negative

things I experience.

So - it leads me to ask: is there such a thing as an infrasound

detector? (Other than a sensitive human being)

Thanking you!

R.

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Read the two September 2008 issues of *het bitje*.

http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina10.html

Look also for the Humsimulator at:

http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina114d.html

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

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Infrasound detector - does it exist?

> Some of you might remember that I posted a message some time ago about

> my mother who hears " the hum " (at least that's what we think it is),

> and experiences symptoms such as, hearing it, feeling a vibration,

> agitation, fatigue, etc...

>

> Infrasound was suggested as something to look up. It's been a while

> since I did - I can say we don't live remotely within the vicinity of

> wind turbines, and she can hear and feel it in our house (and certain

> other places, but not ever place, so she's obviously very sensitive to

> it) even with the power shut off. We have no TETRA or anything like that.

>

> I also wonder(ed) if, even though I don't notice it like she does,

> being in an environment where it's present could add to the negative

> things I experience.

>

> So - it leads me to ask: is there such a thing as an infrasound

> detector? (Other than a sensitive human being)

>

> Thanking you!

>

> R.

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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Thanks but I don't see any September 2008 issue at that link.

One theory I heard from A. Firstenberg is that the hum is caused

by LORAN-C, an-obsolete but still operating navigational system

that I think operates with electromagnetic waves around 100kHz.

I have heard of infra-sound detectors. I think I saw instructions on

how to make one. Basically a special microphone, but you also need

equipment to analyze the output (or send to your computer?). I think

it's possible some ventilation systems can vibrate through a whole city.

Look up " Taos hum " and you'll find some experiments, but not quite

conclusive if I recall.

Refrigerators and things like that can also be a factor. Putting industrial

rubber dampers under the feet might help. Although I often experience such

a phenomenon with the fridge off, and our house is on a big lot. Wind over

vent pipes I think is also considered a possibility.

Wish I knew...

Bill

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:25 PM, charles <charles@...> wrote:

> Read the two September 2008 issues of *het bitje*.

>

> http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina10.html

>

> Look also for the Humsimulator at:

> http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina114d.html

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> www.milieuziektes.nl

> www.milieuziektes.be

> www.hetbitje.nl

> checked by Bitdefender

>

>

> Infrasound detector - does it exist?

>

> > Some of you might remember that I posted a message some time ago about

> > my mother who hears " the hum " (at least that's what we think it is),

> > and experiences symptoms such as, hearing it, feeling a vibration,

> > agitation, fatigue, etc...

> >

> > Infrasound was suggested as something to look up. It's been a while

> > since I did - I can say we don't live remotely within the vicinity of

> > wind turbines, and she can hear and feel it in our house (and certain

> > other places, but not ever place, so she's obviously very sensitive to

> > it) even with the power shut off. We have no TETRA or anything like that.

> >

> > I also wonder(ed) if, even though I don't notice it like she does,

> > being in an environment where it's present could add to the negative

> > things I experience.

> >

> > So - it leads me to ask: is there such a thing as an infrasound

> > detector? (Other than a sensitive human being)

> >

> > Thanking you!

> >

> > R.

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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You have to scroll down to the bottom of the page.

Waves around 100 kHz are far beyond the hearing possibilities.

And they are not regarded as infrasound.

Infrasound is between 0 Hz and 20 Hz.

And one has to distinguish between sound and vibrations.

And both can be measured easily with what I have written in *het bitje*.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

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Infrasound detector - does it exist?

>>

>> > Some of you might remember that I posted a message some time ago about

>> > my mother who hears " the hum " (at least that's what we think it is),

>> > and experiences symptoms such as, hearing it, feeling a vibration,

>> > agitation, fatigue, etc...

>> >

>> > Infrasound was suggested as something to look up. It's been a while

>> > since I did - I can say we don't live remotely within the vicinity of

>> > wind turbines, and she can hear and feel it in our house (and certain

>> > other places, but not ever place, so she's obviously very sensitive to

>> > it) even with the power shut off. We have no TETRA or anything like

>> > that.

>> >

>> > I also wonder(ed) if, even though I don't notice it like she does,

>> > being in an environment where it's present could add to the negative

>> > things I experience.

>> >

>> > So - it leads me to ask: is there such a thing as an infrasound

>> > detector? (Other than a sensitive human being)

>> >

>> > Thanking you!

>> >

>> > R.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > ------------------------------------

>> >

>> >

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Thank you ,

I will have a look at those. In the meantime, I also found this:

http://www.scantekinc.com/frequency.htm

(Scroll down to the meter named " NA-18 " )

R.

> >

> >> Read the two September 2008 issues of *het bitje*.

> >>

> >> http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina10.html

> >>

> >> Look also for the Humsimulator at:

> >> http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina114d.html

> >>

> >> Greetings,

> >> Claessens

> >> member Verband Baubiologie

> >> www.milieuziektes.nl

> >> www.milieuziektes.be

> >> www.hetbitje.nl

> >> checked by Bitdefender

> >>

> >>

> >> Infrasound detector - does it exist?

> >>

> >> > Some of you might remember that I posted a message some time

ago about

> >> > my mother who hears " the hum " (at least that's what we think it

is),

> >> > and experiences symptoms such as, hearing it, feeling a vibration,

> >> > agitation, fatigue, etc...

> >> >

> >> > Infrasound was suggested as something to look up. It's been a while

> >> > since I did - I can say we don't live remotely within the

vicinity of

> >> > wind turbines, and she can hear and feel it in our house (and

certain

> >> > other places, but not ever place, so she's obviously very

sensitive to

> >> > it) even with the power shut off. We have no TETRA or anything

like

> >> > that.

> >> >

> >> > I also wonder(ed) if, even though I don't notice it like she does,

> >> > being in an environment where it's present could add to the

negative

> >> > things I experience.

> >> >

> >> > So - it leads me to ask: is there such a thing as an infrasound

> >> > detector? (Other than a sensitive human being)

> >> >

> >> > Thanking you!

> >> >

> >> > R.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > ------------------------------------

> >> >

> >> >

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Sure, in the beginning I also did a test with such a meter, the NA22 I

believe.

You obviously did not notion the price of that meter.

And not for the price of the probe as well as the needed amplifier.

My solution is the cheapest available.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

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Infrasound detector - does it exist?

>> >>

>> >> > Some of you might remember that I posted a message some time

> ago about

>> >> > my mother who hears " the hum " (at least that's what we think it

> is),

>> >> > and experiences symptoms such as, hearing it, feeling a vibration,

>> >> > agitation, fatigue, etc...

>> >> >

>> >> > Infrasound was suggested as something to look up. It's been a while

>> >> > since I did - I can say we don't live remotely within the

> vicinity of

>> >> > wind turbines, and she can hear and feel it in our house (and

> certain

>> >> > other places, but not ever place, so she's obviously very

> sensitive to

>> >> > it) even with the power shut off. We have no TETRA or anything

> like

>> >> > that.

>> >> >

>> >> > I also wonder(ed) if, even though I don't notice it like she does,

>> >> > being in an environment where it's present could add to the

> negative

>> >> > things I experience.

>> >> >

>> >> > So - it leads me to ask: is there such a thing as an infrasound

>> >> > detector? (Other than a sensitive human being)

>> >> >

>> >> > Thanking you!

>> >> >

>> >> > R.

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > ------------------------------------

>> >> >

>> >> >

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People can of course even hear microwaves in the GHz range if modulated with

audible frequencies. The bandwidth of LORAN-C is 10 or 20 kHz, so

plenty of room for modulation (indeed I think the system relies on

beat frequencies for navigation?).

A funny thing happened a couple nights ago. I was hearing such a hum,

a very low vibration with a modulation of around 1 Hz. Then it occurred to

me that the sound might be what my own heartbeat might sound like if

I was underwater. As I listened carefully, considering this, I suddenly

heard instead a different sound that was clearly my heart beat. It was as

though something relaxed in me somewhere and changed what was happening.

I can't explain it, but result was very positive for me, so others might

benefit.

Bill

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 5:09 AM, charles <charles@...> wrote:

> You have to scroll down to the bottom of the page.

>

> Waves around 100 kHz are far beyond the hearing possibilities.

> And they are not regarded as infrasound.

> Infrasound is between 0 Hz and 20 Hz.

>

> And one has to distinguish between sound and vibrations.

>

> And both can be measured easily with what I have written in *het bitje*.

>

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> www.milieuziektes.nl

> www.milieuziektes.be

> www.hetbitje.nl

> checked by Bitdefender

>

> Infrasound detector - does it exist?

> >>

> >> > Some of you might remember that I posted a message some time ago about

> >> > my mother who hears " the hum " (at least that's what we think it is),

> >> > and experiences symptoms such as, hearing it, feeling a vibration,

> >> > agitation, fatigue, etc...

> >> >

> >> > Infrasound was suggested as something to look up. It's been a while

> >> > since I did - I can say we don't live remotely within the vicinity of

> >> > wind turbines, and she can hear and feel it in our house (and certain

> >> > other places, but not ever place, so she's obviously very sensitive to

> >> > it) even with the power shut off. We have no TETRA or anything like

> >> > that.

> >> >

> >> > I also wonder(ed) if, even though I don't notice it like she does,

> >> > being in an environment where it's present could add to the negative

> >> > things I experience.

> >> >

> >> > So - it leads me to ask: is there such a thing as an infrasound

> >> > detector? (Other than a sensitive human being)

> >> >

> >> > Thanking you!

> >> >

> >> > R.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > ------------------------------------

> >> >

> >> >

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In a message dated 2/21/2009 4:37:49 P.M. GMT Standard Time,

wbruno@... writes:

me that the sound might be what my own heartbeat might sound like if

I was underwater. As I listened carefully, considering this, I suddenly

heard instead a different sound that was clearly my heart beat. It was as

though something relaxed in me somewhere and changed what was happening.

I can't explain it, but result was very positive for me, so others might

benefit.

sounds like the beginning of some meditative state, that said

Quantum effects, entrainment come to mind, I suppose it can be good and bad,

but my concerns lie with chronic exposure from multiple scources in the home

leading to entrainment of the heart muscle so that when you are removed from

the signals that you have become acustomed to you may then be at risk of

sudden heart problems and so on, of course if your heart and other systems

resist the artificial signals then strain will take place until any congenital

weakness is exploited and the subject will suffer sudden failure as well pr

perhaps a slow decent into such a condition.

PUK