RE: Understanding AND Experiencing

[Guest guest]

This reminds me of an experience I had some years ago with a protection

device. I don't know what they are currently called - am waiting to

hear from someone who knows more.

But first I would like to remind/inform people of the work of Prof Ted

Litovitz (Catholic University, US) who found that different frequencies

cancel each other out. Ie, ELF fields are annulled by RFR. I have

discovered this for my self on several occasions, the most marked being

when I was staying in a B & B in the UK a couple of years ago. On the

first night I noticed there was a lot of security devices, smoke

detectors, cordless phones etc, and I slept badly, very lightly and

waking up every hour or two. On the second night I accidentally left

the water heater on in the bathroom (each bathroom had its own mini-hot

water service) and lo and behold I slept very well! The ELF field from

the HWS cancelled the RFR from the RF devices.

So in answer to what Lachlan says about his HWS, yes, if I'm in a house

with such a system (and no smoke detectors or other RF stuff) then I

also sleep better if it is turned off. Ditto the whole system. I quite

often switch the electricity off at the mains before going to bed. Where

I live now the HWS is gas, so its not a problem.

Another thing to consider is the earth's EM field. If this is strong it

can also be a problem, but only if one is in a house, near the ground,

or especially in the country. This can be counteracted by just about

anything.

But getting back to this device I used to have. It was something that

contained bits of granite that were embedded in resin and then encased

in plastic. These bits of granite had been irradiated in order that

their natural radiation (whatever that was) was amplified many times.

This meant that the devices gave off a very high 'natural' frequency. I

used in when I lived in a caravan next to a house - and found that the

metal of the van picked up the fields from the house and magnified them.

I was so ill during this time that I thought I wasn't going to make it.

Then someone gave me this device, and again, I was saved. It worked

like a dream - HOWEVER there was a slight catch, which relates closely

to what Lachlan was saying about his irritation after using the

Sringlife device. If I had this device 'switched on' during a night

when the radiating devices in the house were off (electric radiators,

laptop on charge, video recorder on etc) then I would wake up in the

night feeling incredibly irritated, sometimes almost in a rage even, and

also had bad nightmares. This was most usually the case.

I have since got rid of the device, and find it easier to live away from

ELF fields altogether.

It would be interesting to know exactly how the Springlife devices work.

By the way Marc, with the flower essences I have found that it is

important to only use them when you're experiencing symptoms, otherwise

they can easily 'prove' - the homeopathic term for a remedy actually

doing the opposite of what it is supposed to do. Its complicated.

However, having said that, I also acknowledge that not everyone finds

these remedies effective.

Re: Understanding vs Experiencing

> I think that your idea about exchanging the devices for test purposes

> is good. I think that there won't be much problem with customs.

I actually mailed two EMF devices to two list members, but I have not

heard if they ever received them!

> Listening to your recommendations, I would have bought a Quantum

> product

> to test it, but you also say that it won't work if the Quantum Byte

didn't.

> So I am in a doubt now which one to try? Please suggest.

If the free software download of the Quantum Byte software has no effect

on your computer use, then it's my opinion that none of the other

Quantum Products will help either. The two other products which I

consider to be the best are the Springlife Polarizers

(http://bioharmonics.com) and the Earthcalm Resonator

(http://earthcalm.com). These are the things I also sent out to the two

other list members, so I'd be interested if they notice any differences

in using them or not. Also, perhaps they'll be willing to mail them to

you so that you can try them out for free.

>how about crystals, etc.

Crystals are an interesting topic. My wife has lately become interested

in buying fancy crystals (quartz, etc.), just because she likes them.

However, I quickly found that these were highly agitating to me, so I

try to keep my distance from them. However, some may find benefits from

them. One nice thing about crystals is that many cities have stores

where they sell crystals. So for no cost, you could go to a store, pick

up a crystal, and see if you feel anything. It shouldn't take any more

than a minute to tell.

> I read elsewhere that a special homeopathic remedy against ES

I once tried the " Yarrow Special Formula " homeopathic remedy, but for me

it didn't appear to do anything.

Marc

[Guest guest]

>If I had this device 'switched on' during a night

>when the radiating devices in the house were off then I would wake up in the

>night feeling incredibly irritated, sometimes almost in a rage even, and

>also had bad nightmares.

There have been a few devices I've purchased over the years which I have

had bad reactions to. By far the worst was the " Seed of Life " Sacred

Geometry medallion:

http://www.languageoflight.com/store.html

Looking at this thing, it appears harmless enough. As is usually the case,

I don't expect such a device to do anything. Especially when it supposedly

works just because of it's geometric properties.

And yet, within 5-10 minutes of putting this thing around my neck, I felt

highly agitated, and also like I was having a panic attack and heart

palpitations. For the next week or so, I tried experimenting with it by

having it several feet away from me. The effect was reduced, however it

was still very unpleasant. And it even left a lingering effect that took a

week to go away. I eventually had to dispose of it in some public garbage

can -- and even the drive to the garbage can was agitating!

I had a similar reaction to a supplement called " Modifilan "

(http://www.modifilan.com/). This is a supplement which was designed to

detoxify radiation from the victims in Chernobyl. And I later learned that

the agitation I was experiencing is a symptom of radiation detox. But

still, I believe that there are safe ways to detox and unsafe ways. And

that pendant and that supplement seemed to be very unsafe.

Marc

[Guest guest]

I think its important to find out how these devices work. What do the

creators of, say, the Sacred Geometry medallion, say about WHY and HOW

it works? So many devices are on the market, and discussed here, but

I'm worried that no one seems interested in something so basic. If we

don't understand how and why something works, how can we assess its

value as a protective device? Ditto, of course, the human body.

Bioelectromagnetics is a fairly new field - but one that will hopefully

develop much further in the years to come.

it supposedly works just because of it's geometric properties.

What geometric properties?!!!! How could this affect the human being?

I have not experienced radiation detox in a negative way - because I

can't store it. However after I switch off the electricity at night I

sometimes get an augmented buzzing sensation before everything calms

down.

Marc your trip to the rubbish bin amused me because with the device I

had - although I didn't throw it away I stored it somewhere at work -

out of sight - and then realised it had disappeared after a few years!

sarah

RE: Understanding AND Experiencing

>If I had this device 'switched on' during a night

>when the radiating devices in the house were off then I would wake up

>in the night feeling incredibly irritated, sometimes almost in a rage

>even, and also had bad nightmares.

There have been a few devices I've purchased over the years which I have

had bad reactions to. By far the worst was the " Seed of Life " Sacred

Geometry medallion:

http://www.languageoflight.com/store.html

Looking at this thing, it appears harmless enough. As is usually the

case, I don't expect such a device to do anything. Especially when it

supposedly works just because of it's geometric properties.

And yet, within 5-10 minutes of putting this thing around my neck, I

felt highly agitated, and also like I was having a panic attack and

heart palpitations. For the next week or so, I tried experimenting with

it by having it several feet away from me. The effect was reduced,

however it was still very unpleasant. And it even left a lingering

effect that took a week to go away. I eventually had to dispose of it

in some public garbage can -- and even the drive to the garbage can was

agitating!

I had a similar reaction to a supplement called " Modifilan "

(http://www.modifilan.com/). This is a supplement which was designed to

detoxify radiation from the victims in Chernobyl. And I later learned

that the agitation I was experiencing is a symptom of radiation detox.

But still, I believe that there are safe ways to detox and unsafe ways.

And that pendant and that supplement seemed to be very unsafe.

Marc

[Guest guest]

>I think its important to find out how these devices work. What do the

>creators of, say, the Sacred Geometry medallion, say about WHY and HOW

>it works? So many devices are on the market, and discussed here, but

>I'm worried that no one seems interested in something so basic.

I think the problem is that most of the people on the planet (including

current scientists) are oblivious to the way things work in the universe.

The makers of the medallion insist that it is the SHAPE of the medallion

that makes it work. Yes, I realize that this sound ridiculous to most,

but then do an Internet and Amazon.com search on " Sacred Geometry " .

On Google you get 75,000 matches. On Amazon there are dozens of books.

So there are a LOT of people interested in this subject, just nobody

on this list. Not even me, actually. The Earthcalm pendant (which

is also very powerful, BTW), also lists as one of its 3 reasons for

working as being Sacred Geometry.

For a skeptic, it's much easier to just laugh and ridicule the

idea that geometry could have any effect on someone's health.

And yet, that's not a very scientific approach, now is it?

Someone who is truly interested in a scientific approach should

read some websites and books on Sacred Geometry, and they'd

probably figure out how these devices work just from that

alone. And they could try buying the device and establishing

that it has some sort of effect on them if they need some

motivation to learn something new. Also, they would probably

notice that there are geometric healing things on the web

(I recall a series of credit-card devices with shapes printed

on them, but I never bought them).

BTW, since I had such a huge reaction to this device, I emailed

the manufacturer, and they said that my reaction was extremely

rare (that's what they ALL say...), and was mostly likely

a detox reaction. They suggested keeping it a certain distance

from me and for only short periods of time, but they didn't

seem to understand that I couldn't even keep it in the house!

I also let my wife try it on -- she wore it for 2 hours, and

noticed nothing. I also lent it to a coworker, who said she

felt energized pretty quickly, but I guess she didn't like

it well enough to want to keep it, because she returned it

to me a few hours later (and a week later it was in the

trash).

By the way, I also have some old devices stored away at the

opposite side of the building at my workplace. I don't

think people can comprehend that I can't just store them

at my desk, because they have an effect on me...

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hello,

it is not Sacred Geometry.

It is just some geometry.

Symbols.

Special symbols.

Just that.

And they work.

Mystery at work.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/

http://www.hese-project.org

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RE: Understanding AND Experiencing

> >I think its important to find out how these devices work. What do the

> >creators of, say, the Sacred Geometry medallion, say about WHY and HOW

> >it works? So many devices are on the market, and discussed here, but

> >I'm worried that no one seems interested in something so basic.

>

> I think the problem is that most of the people on the planet (including

> current scientists) are oblivious to the way things work in the universe.

> The makers of the medallion insist that it is the SHAPE of the medallion

> that makes it work. Yes, I realize that this sound ridiculous to most,

> but then do an Internet and Amazon.com search on " Sacred Geometry " .

> On Google you get 75,000 matches. On Amazon there are dozens of books.

> So there are a LOT of people interested in this subject, just nobody

> on this list. Not even me, actually. The Earthcalm pendant (which

> is also very powerful, BTW), also lists as one of its 3 reasons for

> working as being Sacred Geometry.

>

> For a skeptic, it's much easier to just laugh and ridicule the

> idea that geometry could have any effect on someone's health.

> And yet, that's not a very scientific approach, now is it?

> Someone who is truly interested in a scientific approach should

> read some websites and books on Sacred Geometry, and they'd

> probably figure out how these devices work just from that

> alone. And they could try buying the device and establishing

> that it has some sort of effect on them if they need some

> motivation to learn something new. Also, they would probably

> notice that there are geometric healing things on the web

> (I recall a series of credit-card devices with shapes printed

> on them, but I never bought them).

>

> BTW, since I had such a huge reaction to this device, I emailed

> the manufacturer, and they said that my reaction was extremely

> rare (that's what they ALL say...), and was mostly likely

> a detox reaction. They suggested keeping it a certain distance

> from me and for only short periods of time, but they didn't

> seem to understand that I couldn't even keep it in the house!

>

> I also let my wife try it on -- she wore it for 2 hours, and

> noticed nothing. I also lent it to a coworker, who said she

> felt energized pretty quickly, but I guess she didn't like

> it well enough to want to keep it, because she returned it

> to me a few hours later (and a week later it was in the

> trash).

>

> By the way, I also have some old devices stored away at the

> opposite side of the building at my workplace. I don't

> think people can comprehend that I can't just store them

> at my desk, because they have an effect on me...

>

> Marc

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