Question

[Guest guest]

Hi Irene.

You haven't said how long you have been taking the Coconut oil, but if you have

just started then it may not be unusual for you to experience changes in your

bowels and digestion.

The coconut oil contains caprylic and lauric acid, both of which can be

powerful anti-fungals and may well be impacting on Candida and other yeasts in

your system.

Some can experience die-off type symptoms for a few days, but it should settle

down if you can hang in there. Perhaps you could give it a few more days and see

what happens?

Ali.

>

> Has anyone found that coconut oil has caused any problems with loose stools?.

I have been having ongoing trouble in this department and today I went all day

without taking any coconut oil and I've gone since 3.45am without having to rush

into the bathroom. I never suspected that the oil would do that because I know

a lot of you use it by the tablespoon. I am dairy intolerant and have had to

deal with that but I will be disappointed if I have to also give up the coconut

oil.

>

> Irene

>

[Guest guest]

If the loose stools are greasy or oily in nature, you may not be

digesting the coconut oil well.

How much are you taking? How long have you been taking it?

Alobar

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Irene<meandmy2cats@...> wrote:

> Has anyone found that coconut oil has caused any problems with loose stools?.

 I have been having ongoing trouble in this department and today I went all day

without taking any coconut oil and I've gone since 3.45am without having to rush

into the bathroom.  I never suspected that the oil would do that because I know

a lot of you use it by the tablespoon.  I am dairy intolerant and have had to

deal with that but I will be disappointed if I have to also give up the coconut

oil.

>

> Irene

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think I have some serious Candida and I'm wondering how long it should

take to get rid of it using CO? I use the spit test to check and although

the legginess varies, I still have it morning after morning. I have also

tried eating garlic and although I have felt better using the garlic, I

still have leggy spit. What else might I try? Thanks, Sylvia

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:49 PM, liasonframbod <alibamford@...> wrote:

> Hi Irene.

>

> You haven't said how long you have been taking the Coconut oil, but if you

> have just started then it may not be unusual for you to experience changes

> in your bowels and digestion.

>

> The coconut oil contains caprylic and lauric acid, both of which can be

> powerful anti-fungals and may well be impacting on Candida and other yeasts

> in your system.

>

> Some can experience die-off type symptoms for a few days, but it should

> settle down if you can hang in there. Perhaps you could give it a few more

> days and see what happens?

>

> Ali.

>

>

> >

> > Has anyone found that coconut oil has caused any problems with loose

> stools?. I have been having ongoing trouble in this department and today I

> went all day without taking any coconut oil and I've gone since 3.45am

> without having to rush into the bathroom. I never suspected that the oil

> would do that because I know a lot of you use it by the tablespoon. I am

> dairy intolerant and have had to deal with that but I will be disappointed

> if I have to also give up the coconut oil.

> >

> > Irene

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is happening to me as well.  I have been taking the CO now for 5 days. I

started by just taking 1TBL then for the past two days I took 2TBL (1 in the AM

& the other in the afternoon before dinner).  I have had stomach cramps that

come and go and I have loose bowel movements in the AM.  Is this all normal?

> Hi Irene.

>

> You haven't said how long you have been taking the Coconut oil, but if you

> have just started then it may not be unusual for you to experience changes

> in your bowels and digestion.

>

> The coconut oil contains caprylic and lauric acid, both of which can be

> powerful anti-fungals and may well be impacting on Candida and other yeasts

> in your system.

>

> Some can experience die-off type symptoms for a few days, but it should

> settle down if you can hang in there. Perhaps you could give it a few more

> days and see what happens?

>

> Ali.

>

>

> >

> > Has anyone found that coconut oil has caused any problems with loose

> stools?. I have been having ongoing trouble in this department and today I

> went all day without taking any coconut oil and I've gone since 3.45am

> without having to rush into the bathroom. I never suspected that the oil

> would do that because I know a lot of you use it by the tablespoon. I am

> dairy intolerant and have had to deal with that but I will be disappointed

> if I have to also give up the coconut oil.

> >

> > Irene

> >

>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

I suspect you are increasing your dose far too quickly. It also

depends on how you take coconut oil..I take coconut oil as part of my

daily meals and have no stomach or lower intestinal problems.

Alobar

On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Tina Mike<tmike3485@...> wrote:

> This is happening to me as well.  I have been taking the CO now for 5 days. I

started by just taking 1TBL then for the past two days I took 2TBL (1 in the AM

& the other in the afternoon before dinner).  I have had stomach cramps that

come and go and I have loose bowel movements in the AM.  Is this all normal?

>

[Guest guest]

That is exactly what I was thing as well.  Too much, too quickly.  I am small so

it might just be too much.  I love what the 1TBL has done in just a week so I

think I will just stick with that dose for awhile.  I take the 1TBL with my

morning breakfast.  Everyone that I tell I what I am doing with the coconut oil

thinks I am crazy and I direct them to the Coconut Oil MIracle book I've read. 

They are still skeptical.

 

How long does it usually take for the CO to " start " working?  I am taking the CO

for a few reasons but overall for the healing powers it has within my body.  I

have Connective Tissue Disorder and a rare disease called Raynald's which

basically means I can't get cold or I lose all blood flow to my hands and feet. 

Thank goodness I moved from Boston to South Florida in 1996   I'd never

survive in Mass with this disorder.

 

I am hoping that the CO can help heal.  I also was adopted and recently found my

father who is had passed away but he was VERY sick - die of diabetes

complications at the age of 45 - Yikes! - I'm 41 now.  That was so tragic to

hear. 

 

So in closing - I am hoping that the healing powers and positive changes can

help me live a healthier lifestyle.  I watch what I eat 90% of the time but on a

Friday night I like to have a glass of red wine with take out.  We have to have

a cheat day right?  My cheats are still good.

 

Thanks everyone for listening.

 

Tina

> This is happening to me as well.  I have been taking the CO now for 5 days. I

started by just taking 1TBL then for the past two days I took 2TBL (1 in the AM

& the other in the afternoon before dinner).  I have had stomach cramps that

come and go and I have loose bowel movements in the AM.  Is this all normal?

>

[Guest guest]

when you take antibiotics you must take also a good probiotics.

>

> My brother has had an infection in his foot since March and been treated

> with at least 4 rounds of antibiotics. I looked at both his feet yesterday

> when I was in town with him. He lives 4 hours from me. He is swollen up to

> his knee and now infection is in other foot. He has lost feeling with all

> the swelling. If anyone has any ideas on this please email me backlist

> directly. He has very little money so I would need to buy and send to him. I

> would hope that lugols would help and possibly olive leaf extract but am

> open to ideas. I am getting him to understand some basic ideas for care that

> doctors gave him in instructions but never got into detail with him. Like

> sitting with elevated feet doesn't help as kinks off at hip. Need to be

> laying down with whole lower body elevated above the heart by about a foot.

> Thanks for any ideas anyone has. Pam in Oregon

>

[Guest guest]

Pam...

Oregano oil orally, you can get it in capsules is a strong antibiotic.

Topically, living clay hydrated and wrapped with plastic wrap to keep wet. It

wouldn't hurt to mix some oregano oil with the clay either. The living clay co.

sells in powder and liquid form. It would be more economical to buy the powder

and have your brother mix up what he needs. There's an info web site about

living clay: -http://www.aboutclay.com/clay_info.htm and the owner

Aldridge runs a group aboutclay and can give you specific instructions for

applying the clay for your brother's infection. Iodine would be a good addition

to the clay and oregano oil internally. Ditto on probiotics. Colloidal silver

internally has antibiotic properties.

Lorie

-- In iodine , Pamela Valley <2007pams@...> wrote:

>

> My brother has had an infection in his foot since March and been treated

> with at least 4 rounds of antibiotics. I looked at both his feet yesterday

> when I was in town with him. He lives 4 hours from me. He is swollen up to

> his knee and now infection is in other foot. He has lost feeling with all

> the swelling. If anyone has any ideas on this please email me backlist

> directly. He has very little money so I would need to buy and send to him. I

> would hope that lugols would help and possibly olive leaf extract but am

> open to ideas. I am getting him to understand some basic ideas for care that

> doctors gave him in instructions but never got into detail with him. Like

> sitting with elevated feet doesn't help as kinks off at hip. Need to be

> laying down with whole lower body elevated above the heart by about a foot.

> Thanks for any ideas anyone has. Pam in Oregon

>

[Guest guest]

> My brother has had an infection in his foot since March and been treated

> with at least 4 rounds of antibiotics.

There is iodine and there is colloidal silver. I would try the silver.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

why not both iodine and silver? iodine is the big gun when it comes to

infection--antiviral, antibacterial etc.

gracia

dorothyroeder wrote:

>

>

>

> > My brother has had an infection in his foot since March and been treated

> > with at least 4 rounds of antibiotics.

>

> There is iodine and there is colloidal silver. I would try the silver.

>

> Dorothy

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would get both his feet into warm sea salt water at least three times or more per day. Put in some iodine too.-- Warmest Regards,Robin Little

My brother has had an infection in his foot since March and been treated

with at least 4 rounds of antibiotics. I looked at both his feet yesterday

when I was in town with him. He lives 4 hours from me. He is swollen up to

his knee and now infection is in other foot. He has lost feeling with all

the swelling. If anyone has any ideas on this please email me backlist

directly. He has very little money so I would need to buy and send to him. I

would hope that lugols would help and possibly olive leaf extract but am

open to ideas. I am getting him to understand some basic ideas for care that

doctors gave him in instructions but never got into detail with him. Like

sitting with elevated feet doesn't help as kinks off at hip. Need to be

laying down with whole lower body elevated above the heart by about a foot.

Thanks for any ideas anyone has. Pam in Oregon

[Guest guest]

> why not both iodine and silver? iodine is the big gun when it comes to

> infection--antiviral, antibacterial etc.

That sounds good. Use both inside and outside.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam,

A year ago, my husband had cellulitis in his foot. It swelled

quickly with a red splotchiness, had blood blisters, but no opening in his foot

that it entered. After being in the hospital on antibiotics – at which

time he had been on and continued to take iodine – we put him on

Oregasil, from Dr. Lamphier’s website. It was tested directly against very

strong antibiotics, and worked the same. We kept hearing that others who had

cellulitis usually had it reoccur at least once, and some many times, so we put

him on the six week course of Oregasil. He is at the one year anniversary of

that infection, and has had no reoccurance.

Donna in IL

[Guest guest]

Thanks Pam for the article. it is very interesting. another example where simple approach works best! I hope your brother gets better soon.

From: Pamela Valley <2007pams@...>Subject: Re: questioniodine Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 10:47 AM

This article may help others to heal too. D'Ann sent it to me this morning. I ordered oil of oregano, probiotics, coconut oil, MSM, olive leaf extract, and colloidial silver. Also sending cinnamon, garlic and onions and bentonite to fight fungus too. Still this simple solution seems good place to start. Pam

The Sweet Art of Healingby Dr. n WhitakerSee all articles by this authorEmail this author(NaturalNews) Jerome, a 53-year-old high school teacher, was in the hospital awaiting amputation of his left leg. He'd been receiving IV antibiotics to treat a diabetic ulcer, a wide, oozing open wound on his ankle, but this didn't halt the steady advance of gangrene, and he was told they had no choice but to take his leg.About five hours before he was scheduled for surgery, Jerome talked to the teacher who was

substituting for him to tell him he'd probably be out for the rest of the year. The substitute had heard about the Whitaker Wellness Institute and the work we do here, so he suggested that Jerome check us out. Jerome immediately phoned his wife, who called the clinic and asked if there was anything we could do to save his leg. I said we would certainly try. Figuring he had nothing to lose, Jerome left the hospital-against strongly worded medical advice-and came to my clinic that same day."I Wouldn't Be Walking Today"We immediately started Jerome on two therapies. First, he began a course of EDTA chelation, an IV treatment that improves circulation. Second, we dressed his ulcer with sugar. That's right, white table sugar. We simply poured sugar into the wound, wrapped it up, and changed the dressing regularly.

Within days he noticed a difference."I could see the sores were starting to get better and the swelling had gone down. At first the leg was almost all black. Then it started to get pinkish. It was just amazing how it continued to feel so much better." Within three weeks, Jerome's ulcer was healed, and he was able to resume teaching and coaching the girl's softball team."I didn't know anything about alternative medicine when I went to see you. I guess I was skeptical because I had no idea what to expect. I just felt that it was my last hope. I wouldn't be walking today if it weren't for you. I've often thought about sending a card to the doctor who wanted to amputate, with a picture of my leg, and say, 'I still have it.'"5,000 Years of SuccessChelation is an amazing

treatment, however, in this article I want to focus on sugar because it is an incredibly powerful therapy that was instrumental in saving Jerome's leg. I've been using sugar to dress open wounds for 20-plus years, but this therapy has been around for much longer-at least 5,000 years.Honey (which works just like sugar) is mentioned in the world's earliest known medical document, discovered in Luxor, Egypt, in 1862. Known as the Edwin Papyrus, it was written around 1600 BC and is believed to be based on materials from as early as 3000 BC. This ancient manuscript is essentially a textbook on traumatic surgery, and it describes anatomy, examination, diagnosis, treatment, and prognosis of a variety of injuries in great detail. In particular, it tells how honey, along with animal fat, herbs, roots, bark, spices,

and cat dung, can be used to treat open wounds and burns.Pedanius Dioscorides, a Greek physician who lived in Rome in the first century AD, also extolled the therapeutic powers of honey. In his five-volume De Materia Medica, which was the primary pharmacopeia in Europe and the Middle East for 16 centuries, he described honey as "good for all rotten and hollow ulcers." In fact, honey-and later, sugar-continued to be widely used to treat wounds well into the twentieth century. Then antibiotics came along.Better Than AntibioticsToday, antibiotic ointments are the treatment of choice for ulcers, cuts, scrapes, and burns. Yet honey and sugar are far superior to any antibiotic ointment ever used.Antibiotics aren't as effective as they once were, because bacteria rapidly becomes resistant to them. While an antibiotic kills most of the bacteria, the stronger ones-those with some genetic variation that allows them to withstand the effects of the drug-survive and reproduce. Over time, that strain of bacteria becomes completely resistant to the effects of the antibiotic. Another antibiotic comes on the market that kills most of these "superbugs," and the process starts over again.Today, antibiotic resistance has reached a critical mass: Many infections do not respond to any antibiotics at all. This is what happened to Jerome and the 82,000 other Americans who lose a leg or foot to non-healing diabetic ulcers annually. It's also what affects the two million patients who acquire an infection while they're in the hospital and the 90,000 who die from these infections every year.Wounds are particularly prone to infection because the gauze used to dress them absorbs fluid from the wound and becomes a breeding ground for bacteria and fungus. Drug companies are working around the clock to come up with antibiotics that stay

one step ahead of microbes. Yet, the solution is as near as your sugar bowl. The reason? Bacteria cannot become resistant to the killing effects of sugar or honey.Sweet, Powerful MedicineWhen sugar or honey is packed on top of and inside of an open wound, it dissolves in the fluid exuding from the wound, creating a hyperosmotic, or highly concentrated, medium. Bacteria cannot live in a hyperosmotic environment any more than a goldfish could survive in the Great Salt Lake. Scientists have tested the viability of many types of bacteria, including Klebsiella, Shigella, Staphylococcus aureus, and Streptococcus pyogenes, and none of them have been able to survive in a honey or sugar solution.In addition to curbing infection, this therapy facilitates healing in other ways. It draws fluid out of the wound, which reduces edema (swelling). It provides a covering or filling and therefore prevents scabbing. It encourages the removal of dead

tissue to make way for new growth. It promotes granulation, the formation of connective tissue and blood vessels on the surfaces of a wound. Finally, it supports the growth of new skin covering the wound. The net result is rapid healing with minimal scarring.This Doctor Has Treated 7,000 WoundsThe country's, if not the world's, leading expert on the use of sugar as a wound dressing is A. Knutson, MD, now retired but for many years an orthopedic surgeon at the Delta Medical Center in Greenville, Mississippi. Dr. Knutson first learned about the healing power of sugar from an elderly nurse who worked in the hospital where he was making rounds to check on his patients. When he expressed concern about a patient's bedsore that was so deep it was down to the bone, she told him, "In the old days, we used

to put sugar on them wounds."Although he was dubious, he gave it a try. To his surprise, it worked like a charm. Within a couple of days the wound was free of pus, and with continued use of sugar dressings, healing was complete. Dr. Knutson, a meticulous record keeper, went on to treat and document nearly 7,000 wounds of all sizes and degrees of severity: ulcers, abrasions, lacerations, amputations, abscesses, gunshot wounds, frostbite, punctures, post-operative incisions, cat scratches, burns, and bites (dog, human, snake, spider, and, believe it or not, one lion bite).He told me about a patient who had accidentally shot himself in the foot at close range with a shotgun. I saw pictures of this, and it was incredible: a perfectly round, inch-and-a-half diameter hole right through his foot. After the bleeding was stopped and the wound cleaned, Dr. Knutson packed it with sugar and wrapped it up. Seven weeks later it had healed completely,

and today the patient is fully functional.Burns: No Skin Grafts, No ScarringSugar dressings are also great for burns. Most burn centers insist on using silver sulfadiazine, an antibiotic ointment, to treat burns, but it doesn't work nearly as well as sugar or honey.In a study published in the ls of Burns and Fire Disasters, 900 patients who presented with second-degree burns were treated with either honey or an antibiotic ointment. All burns were then covered with gauze and bandaged, and the dressing was changed every other day. The 450 patients treated with honey fared much better than those receiving the usual treatment. They healed faster, in an average of nine days compared to 13.5 days in the antibiotic group. They had fewer infections, 5.5 percent versus 12 percent. And minor scarring occurred in only 6.2 percent of the honey-treated patients, while a whopping 20 percent of those receiving conventional treatment ended up

with scars.Dr. Knutson's experience mirrors the results of this study. He has treated 1,622 burns with sugar dressings, and virtually all of them were infection-free and required no antibiotics or skin grafts. He told me about one patient with extensive burns who received antibiotic treatment on some areas of his body and sugar on others. The sugar-treated burns healed faster and scarred less.If It's So Good, Why Isn't It Used?Trying to figure out why inexpensive, effective therapies like sugar and honey dressings aren't being used is an exercise in futility. That's because there is no rational explanation. Some physicians claim it would cause elevations in blood sugar, which is nonsense because sugar or honey used on an open wound does not enter the bloodstream. Others think it's unscientific or just plain weird.I suspect it's because, like so many other overlooked therapies, it doesn't fit into the model of

conventional medicine. It isn't a drug. It costs pennies. It can be administered by the patient as easily as by a nurse or doctor, so it doesn't require many return office visits. Whatever the reason, do not expect your doctor to offer this therapy or even be open to it. But next time you get a cut, scrape, or burn, give it a try, and let me know how it works.Protocol for Treating Wounds With SugarSugar or honey dressing may be used to treat any kind of open wound or burn. (We use sugar at the clinic because it's less messy.) It will not work on abscesses or pustules that are covered with skin. Do not use on a bleeding wound as sugar promotes bleeding.1)Unravel a 4" x 4" piece of gauze into a long strip and coat it with Vaseline. Place it around the outside edges of the wound, like a

donut.2)Cover the wound with 1/4-inch of sugar. (The Vaseline "donut" will keep it in place.)3)Place a 4" x 4" sponge on top of the wound. Bandage it firmly but not too snugly with a cling dressing.4)Change the dressing every one or two days. Remove, irrigate with water, saline, or hydrogen peroxide, pat dry, and repeat steps 1-3.ReferenceSubrahmanyam M. Honey dressing for burns-an appraisal. ls of Burns and Fire Disasters. 1996;IX:33-35.

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About the authorReprinted from Dr. n Whitaker's Health & Healing with permission from Healthy Directions, LLC. For information on subscribing to this newsletter, visit www.drwhitaker. com or call (800) 539-8219.About the Authorn Whitaker, MD, is the author of Health & Healing, a monthly newsletter that has reached millions of readers since 1991. He has also written 13 books and hosts The Dr. Whitaker Show, a popular radio program. In 1979, Dr. Whitaker founded the Whitaker Wellness Institute. Today, it is the largest alternative medicine clinic in the United States. To learn more, visit www.whitakerwellnes s.com or call (800) 488-1500

[Guest guest]

I use the magnetic pulser for specific targeted areas.

From: dorothyroeder <dorothyroeder@...>Subject: Re: questioniodine Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 10:39 PM

> My brother has had an infection in his foot since March and been treated> with at least 4 rounds of antibiotics. There is iodine and there is colloidal silver. I would try the silver.Dorothy

[Guest guest]

Another inexpensive, overlooked therapy that we treated my wife's pneumonia

with, is dilute HCL acid. 10cc iv 3x/day 500:1 HCL (from AllergyResearchGroup)

had her back to normal in 3 days, with no loss in strength (which occurs with

cancer patients who receive high dose antibiotics). Google it at HCL therapy.

It can be used for blood poisoning or any other internal infection.

Ted

Ted

>

> This article may help others to heal too. D'Ann sent it to me this morning.

> I ordered oil of oregano, probiotics, coconut oil, MSM, olive leaf extract,

> and colloidial silver. Also sending cinnamon, garlic and onions and

> bentonite to fight fungus too. Still this simple solution seems good place

> to start. PamThe Sweet Art of Healingby Dr. n Whitaker

> See all articles by this author <http://www.naturalnews.com/Author705.html>

> Email this

author<http://www.naturalnews.com/contactauthor.asp?ID=705 & Token=0 & Title=The%20S\

weet%20Art%20of%20Healing>

>

>

> (NaturalNews) Jerome, a 53-year-old high school teacher, was in the hospital

> awaiting amputation of his left leg. He'd been receiving IV antibiotics to

> treat a diabetic ulcer, a wide, oozing open wound on his ankle, but this

> didn't halt the steady advance of gangrene, and he was told they had no

> choice but to take his leg.

>

> About five hours before he was scheduled for surgery, Jerome talked to the

> teacher who was substituting for him to tell him he'd probably be out for

> the rest of the year. The substitute had heard about the Whitaker Wellness

> Institute and the work we do here, so he suggested that Jerome check us out.

> Jerome immediately phoned his wife, who called the clinic and asked if there

> was anything we could do to save his leg. I said we would certainly try.

> Figuring he had nothing to lose, Jerome left the hospital-against strongly

> worded medical advice-and came to my clinic that same day.

>

> " I Wouldn't Be Walking Today "

> We immediately started Jerome on two therapies. First, he began a course of

> EDTA chelation, an IV treatment that improves circulation. Second, we

> dressed his ulcer with sugar <http://www.naturalnews.com/sugar.html>. That's

> right, white table sugar. We simply poured sugar into the wound, wrapped it

> up, and changed the dressing regularly. Within days he noticed a difference.

>

> " I could see the sores were starting to get better and the swelling had gone

> down. At first the leg was almost all black. Then it started to get pinkish.

> It was just amazing how it continued to feel so much better. " Within three

> weeks, Jerome's ulcer was healed, and he was able to resume teaching and

> coaching the girl's softball team.

>

> " I didn't know anything about alternative

> medicine<http://www.naturalnews.com/alternative_medicine.html> when

> I went to see you. I guess I was skeptical because I had no idea what to

> expect. I just felt that it was my last hope. I wouldn't be walking today if

> it weren't for you. I've often thought about sending a card to the doctor

> who wanted to amputate, with a picture of my leg, and say, 'I still have

> it.' "

>

> 5,000 Years of Success

> Chelation is an amazing treatment, however, in this article I want to focus

> on sugar because it is an incredibly powerful therapy that was instrumental

> in saving Jerome's leg. I've been using sugar to dress open wounds for

> 20-plus years, but this therapy has been around for much longer-at least

> 5,000 years.

>

> Honey (which works just like sugar) is mentioned in the world's earliest

> known medical document, discovered in Luxor, Egypt, in 1862. Known as the

> Edwin Papyrus, it was written around 1600 BC and is believed to be

> based on materials from as early as 3000 BC. This ancient manuscript is

> essentially a textbook on traumatic surgery, and it describes anatomy,

> examination, diagnosis, treatment, and prognosis of a variety of injuries in

> great detail. In particular, it tells how

> honey<http://www.naturalnews.com/honey.html>,

> along with animal fat, herbs, roots, bark, spices, and cat dung, can be used

> to treat open wounds and burns.

>

> Pedanius Dioscorides, a Greek physician who lived in Rome in the first

> century AD, also extolled the therapeutic powers of honey. In his

> five-volume De Materia Medica, which was the primary pharmacopeia in Europe

> and the Middle East for 16 centuries, he described honey as " good for all

> rotten and hollow ulcers <http://www.naturalnews.com/ulcers.html>. " In fact,

> honey-and later, sugar-continued to be widely used to treat wounds well into

> the twentieth century. Then

> antibiotics<http://www.naturalnews.com/antibiotics.html> came

> along.

>

> Better Than Antibiotics

> Today, antibiotic <http://www.naturalnews.com/antibiotic.html> ointments are

> the treatment of choice for ulcers, cuts, scrapes, and burns. Yet honey and

> sugar are far superior to any antibiotic ointment ever used.

> Antibiotics aren't as effective as they once were, because

> bacteria<http://www.naturalnews.com/bacteria.html> rapidly

> becomes resistant to them. While an antibiotic kills most of the bacteria,

> the stronger ones-those with some genetic variation that allows them to

> withstand the effects of the drug-survive and reproduce. Over time, that

> strain of bacteria becomes completely resistant to the effects of the

> antibiotic. Another antibiotic comes on the market that kills most of these

> " superbugs, " and the process starts over again.

>

> Today, antibiotic resistance has reached a critical mass: Many

> infections<http://www.naturalnews.com/infections.html> do

> not respond to any antibiotics at all. This is what happened to Jerome and

> the 82,000 other Americans who lose a leg or foot to non-healing

> diabetic<http://www.naturalnews.com/diabetic.html> ulcers

> annually. It's also what affects the two million patients who acquire an

> infection while they're in the

> hospital<http://www.naturalnews.com/hospital.html> and

> the 90,000 who die from these infections every year.

>

> Wounds are particularly prone to infection because the gauze used to dress

> them absorbs fluid from the wound and becomes a breeding ground for bacteria

> and fungus. Drug companies are working around the clock to come up with

> antibiotics that stay one step ahead of microbes. Yet, the solution is as

> near as your sugar bowl. The reason? Bacteria cannot become resistant to the

> killing effects of sugar or honey.

>

> Sweet, Powerful Medicine

> When sugar or honey is packed on top of and inside of an open wound, it

> dissolves in the fluid exuding from the wound, creating a hyperosmotic, or

> highly concentrated, medium. Bacteria cannot live in a hyperosmotic

> environment any more than a goldfish could survive in the Great Salt Lake.

> Scientists have tested the viability of many types of bacteria, including

> Klebsiella, Shigella, Staphylococcus aureus, and Streptococcus pyogenes, and

> none of them have been able to survive in a honey or sugar solution.

>

> In addition to curbing infection, this therapy facilitates healing in other

> ways. It draws fluid out of the wound, which reduces edema (swelling). It

> provides a covering or filling and therefore prevents scabbing. It

> encourages the removal of dead tissue to make way for new growth. It

> promotes granulation, the formation of connective tissue and

> blood<http://www.naturalnews.com/blood.html> vessels

> on the surfaces of a wound. Finally, it supports the growth of new skin

> covering the wound. The net result is rapid healing with minimal scarring.

>

> This Doctor Has Treated 7,000 Wounds

> The country's, if not the world's, leading expert on the use of sugar as a

> wound dressing is A. Knutson, MD, now retired but for many years an

> orthopedic surgeon at the Delta Medical Center in Greenville, Mississippi.

> Dr. Knutson first learned about the healing power of sugar from an elderly

> nurse who worked in the hospital where he was making rounds to check on his

> patients. When he expressed concern about a patient's bedsore that was so

> deep it was down to the bone, she told him, " In the old days, we used to put

> sugar on them wounds. "

>

> Although he was dubious, he gave it a try. To his surprise, it worked like a

> charm. Within a couple of days the wound was free of pus, and with continued

> use of sugar dressings, healing was complete. Dr. Knutson, a meticulous

> record keeper, went on to treat and document nearly 7,000 wounds of all

> sizes and degrees of severity: ulcers, abrasions, lacerations, amputations,

> abscesses, gunshot wounds, frostbite, punctures, post-operative incisions,

> cat scratches, burns, and bites (dog, human, snake, spider, and, believe it

> or not, one lion bite).

>

> He told me about a patient who had accidentally shot himself in the foot at

> close range with a shotgun. I saw pictures of this, and it was incredible: a

> perfectly round, inch-and-a-half diameter hole right through his foot. After

> the bleeding was stopped and the wound cleaned, Dr. Knutson packed it with

> sugar and wrapped it up. Seven weeks later it had healed completely, and

> today the patient is fully functional.

>

> Burns: No Skin Grafts, No Scarring

> Sugar dressings are also great for burns. Most burn centers insist on using

> silver sulfadiazine, an antibiotic ointment, to treat burns, but it doesn't

> work nearly as well as sugar or honey.

>

> In a study published in the ls of Burns and Fire Disasters, 900 patients

> who presented with second-degree burns were treated with either honey or an

> antibiotic ointment. All burns were then covered with gauze and bandaged,

> and the dressing was changed every other day. The 450 patients treated with

> honey fared much better than those receiving the usual treatment. They

> healed faster, in an average of nine days compared to 13.5 days in the

> antibiotic group. They had fewer infections, 5.5 percent versus 12 percent.

> And minor scarring occurred in only 6.2 percent of the honey-treated

> patients, while a whopping 20 percent of those receiving conventional

> treatment ended up with scars.

>

> Dr. Knutson's experience mirrors the results of this study. He has treated

> 1,622 burns with sugar dressings, and virtually all of them were

> infection-free and required no antibiotics or skin grafts. He told me about

> one patient with extensive burns who received antibiotic treatment on some

> areas of his body and sugar on others. The sugar-treated burns healed faster

> and scarred less.

>

> If It's So Good, Why Isn't It Used?

> Trying to figure out why inexpensive, effective therapies like sugar and

> honey dressings aren't being used is an exercise in futility. That's because

> there is no rational explanation. Some physicians claim it would cause

> elevations in blood sugar, which is nonsense because sugar or honey used on

> an open wound does not enter the bloodstream. Others think it's unscientific

> or just plain weird.

>

> I suspect it's because, like so many other overlooked therapies, it doesn't

> fit into the model of conventional

> medicine<http://www.naturalnews.com/medicine.html>.

> It isn't a drug. It costs pennies. It can be administered by the patient as

> easily as by a nurse or doctor, so it doesn't require many return office

> visits. Whatever the reason, do not expect your doctor to offer this therapy

> or even be open to it. But next time you get a cut, scrape, or burn, give it

> a try, and let me know how it works.

>

> Protocol for Treating Wounds With Sugar

> Sugar or honey dressing may be used to treat any kind of open wound or burn.

> (We use sugar at the clinic because it's less messy.) It will not work on

> abscesses or pustules that are covered with skin. Do not use on a bleeding

> wound as sugar promotes bleeding.

>

> 1)Unravel a 4 " x 4 " piece of gauze into a long strip and coat it with

> Vaseline. Place it around the outside edges of the wound, like a donut.

> 2)Cover the wound with 1/4-inch of sugar. (The Vaseline " donut " will keep it

> in place.)

> 3)Place a 4 " x 4 " sponge on top of the wound. Bandage it firmly but not too

> snugly with a cling dressing.

> 4)Change the dressing every one or two days. Remove, irrigate with water,

> saline, or hydrogen peroxide, pat dry, and repeat steps 1-3.

>

> Reference

> Subrahmanyam M. Honey dressing for burns-an appraisal. ls of Burns and

> Fire Disasters. 1996;IX:33-35.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I did. I was working really hard with my PT and getting no where. After the

manipulation my hard work paid off and I went from the 90's to 120

something. My surgeon also cleaned out scar tissue. I was so glad I did it.

I have since been told that 3 % of the population has these problems, and we

are one of the " lucky ones. " lol J

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Dot Sheltie <dotsheltie@...> wrote:

> Hi all,

> I am 10 weeks post op.I am having trouble with the bending.The number is

> 101.I just saw my pcp and he said to work real hard at it or the surgeon

> will put me back into hospital and under anesthetic will bend the knee

> back.Has any one had this done?

> Dot

>

> A curve that can set a lot of things straight is a smile. " ~~ Anonymous

>

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[Guest guest]

, This is frustrating, but normal. You should increase the intensity when

you are standing, and decrease the intensity before you lay down. The position

of your body will also increase and decrease the intensity. This is something

you will get used to and will know how to adjust to. Ex: when I go to a drs.

office I either lower or turn off my stims until after the exam, before I go to

bed at night I lower  the stim. Hope this helps

Sue C

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From: <kenya@...>

Stimulator

Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 4:52:15 PM

Subject: question

 

I have had my stim for 5 months now and it seems to be very posistional. I can

be standing up and its barely on , then when I lay down its so high I have to

find my remote and turn it down. does anyone else experience this

thanks,

melissa

[Guest guest]

Yes ...it's much worse in the beginning months than later on. I have had

my current one for 2 years and I rarely notice the difference when I change

positions unless I have it very high. I use mine 24/7 and it's so comfortable n

helpful now that I sometimes forget I have it....until my battery diesand I have

NO stimulation until it's charged back up. Those are the moments I am reminded

how much I live it and how much it helps. Within an hour or so of it dying I get

a glimpse into my pre-stimulator past. It actually seems to get better with

time....the longer it's there the more relief I have come to enjoy. I must tell

you that it was about a year before I started really seeing the difference

enough to start reducing my Meds to a point where I can be happy....my Meds are

so low now that as of 2 weeks ago they aren't even detected in a urine test....

Everyone has slightly different stories n experiences, but mine got better with

time. My body needed to be able to have time to adjust n settle down...it is a

foreign object afterall.

Deanna

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 16, 2009, at 1:52 PM, " " <kenya@...> wrote:

I have had my stim for 5 months now and it seems to be very posistional. I can

be standing up and its barely on , then when I lay down its so high I have to

find my remote and turn it down. does anyone else experience this

thanks,

melissa

[Guest guest]

Dear Christie,Speaking from experience you need to do the loading days or 'bingeing' days, or else you will be completely miserable on protocol. The pounds that you gain, are quickly lost within the first couple of days. When I didn't load correctly, I was starving three weeks into protocol. This shouldn't be. yan.From: Christie Mackie <lv2glf1227@...>Subject: Question Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 9:51 AM

Has anyone ever did a couple day binge before starting the shots? Yes I have done the protocol a couple times and know you are supposed to binge for the first 2 days on protocol, but I hate gaining the 5-6 lbs and having to lose those also.....

So just wondering if anyone has done the protocol without the binge the first 2 days and how they did??

THanks for your answers

[Guest guest]

I have never binged on my load days and gained weight.

Load days don’t mean eating all the twinkies and donuts and pizza you

want it means good fats. Like almonds, avocados, peanut butter, flaxseed

oil. Maybe red meats instead of chicken and fish if you want. Get lots of protein

and good fats. Junk food is just a bunch of crap your body never needs.

From:

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Of ingrignia johansen

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:58 AM

Subject: Re: Question

Dear Christie,

Speaking from experience you need to do the loading days or 'bingeing' days,

or else you will be completely miserable on protocol. The pounds that

you gain, are quickly lost within the first couple of days.

When I didn't load correctly, I was starving three weeks into protocol.

This shouldn't be.

yan.

From: Christie Mackie <lv2glf1227@...>

Subject: Question

Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 9:51 AM

Has anyone

ever did a couple day binge before starting the shots? Yes I have done the

protocol a couple times and know you are supposed to binge for the first 2

days on protocol, but I hate gaining the 5-6 lbs and having to lose those

also.....

So just

wondering if anyone has done the protocol without the binge the first 2

days and how they did??

THanks for

your answers

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Get back in touch with the surgeon- If she has a cholesteatoma she needs an operation (as well as giving steroids and antibiotics) With best wishesMr WareingConsultant ENT SurgeonFrom: Nimmons <tiffanynimmons@...>cholesteatoma Sent: Friday, 25

September, 2009 5:06:08Subject: Question

Hi my two year old daughter has a large c-toma. Over the weekend we noticed she wasn't smiling as big on one side. We took her in to the ENT and he said it may be infected. This could cause pressure on the facial nerve and was put on antbiotics. The Dr. said if it works it will get better in 2-3 days. I have not noticed any change. He also said maybe some steroids would help. Dr. also said it could be the c-toma, even though she had a ct scan a month ago. I thought this was a slow growing issue?I am waiting for a call back. Has anyone had this before surgery? I am scared.

Please tell me any info. NimmonsMom to Brody, , and le (7-14-07)

[Guest guest]

,

I'm so glad that a couple of the doctors that listen in on this list

were able to take the time to respond. At this point, is a surgery

scheduled? Do you have a good pediatric ENT with a lot of experience

dealing with cholesteatoma? If they don't have a lot of experience,

they should be guiding you to someone that does. I hope the treatment

for the infection does relieve the pressure and that they consider

moving up the surgery date. I know there are lots of parents on the

list that have been through this with their children and I hope they

chime in. I'm one of the ones that, although I've had ear problems all

my life, I was in my early 40's before the cholesteatoma was caught.

Children typically bounce back from this surgery quickly so maybe they

can share tips on keeping them from being too active before the doctor

wants them to be. Hang in there.

Matt

Nimmons wrote:

>

>

> Hi my two year old daughter has a large c-toma. Over the weekend we

> noticed she wasn't smiling as big on one side. We took her in to the

> ENT and he said it may be infected. This could cause pressure on the

> facial nerve and was put on antbiotics. The Dr. said if it works it

> will get better in 2-3 days. I have not noticed any change. He also

> said maybe some steroids would help. Dr. also said it could be the

> c-toma, even though she had a ct scan a month ago. I thought this was

> a slow growing issue?I am waiting for a call back. Has anyone had

> this before surgery? I am scared. Please tell me any info.

>

> Nimmons

> Mom to Brody, , and le (7-14-07)

>

>

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Here is one study:Medical News: ASMBS: Gastric Banding Less Effective than Other Procedures - in Meeting Coverage, ASMBS from MedPage Today

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Stores <stores945@...> wrote:

 

Have looked at allot of fourms, chat rooms and several different studies. Can't seem to find a stat on the relation between BMI and complications. Most of what I've read leads me to believe the higher the BMI the high the risk. Naturally anything can happen, I understand that but has anyone seen any stats on this?

[Guest guest]

Hey,

I know these things usually grow slowly, but we have experienced a

couple episodes of rapid growth with Chloe's, usually when an

infection is present. If your " mom " radar is going off, listen!

Hopefully, things are better already, but if not, I would try to get

him to see her right away.

Best!!!

On 9/25/09,