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You shouldn't expect much change until you get a proper fill. There

is no " should " at this point, though practicing as much possible on

all the appropriate bandster behaviors (small portions, small bites,

chewing well, eating good foods, no liquid calories, etc) will help

you when you do get tightened up. Are you exercising yet? That's

vital too.

Finally, remember, the goal isn't to see how MUCH you can get past the

band, but how LITTLE you can eat (within reason, or course).

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

dan

Monday, January 28, 2008, 10:42:11 AM, you wrote:

> I had my lapband procedure on Dec 6,07. I have not had a fill yet. I

> seem to be able to eat a lot more than what I should and I am hungry 2

> hours after I eat. Is this something normal that everyone goes thru?

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Started at 355, at goal in the 210-220 range for almost 4 years

Ultimate goal of 195 Tummytuck in Boise and SmartLipo in Tijuana

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Hi, and welcome! These are among the many things your doc and his

staff should be going over with you and teaching you about, so you

don't worry and know what to expect.

The band does not work well until we get to a good fill level. If

needed, you can begin fills about 6 weeks after surgery. Until then,

yes, it's very normal to feel little if any difference.

it takes most people 3-5 monthly fills to get to a good fill level,

of slow and gradual fills. THEN, serious weight loss will begin, IF

you have put into place the other things that YOU must contribute to

the " success formula " -the better exercise, the much better food

choices, the extra no-calorie fluids, and much more.

You might want to read the Band Guide in the files that covers many

of these things.

WE'll be happy to help you learn more, but it is primarily your doc's

respomsibility to teach you the many things needed - or to refer you

to someone who can.

Sandy r

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at goal > 4 yrs

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>

> I had my lapband procedure on Dec 6,07. I have not had a fill

yet. I

> seem to be able to eat a lot more than what I should and I am

hungry 2

> hours after I eat. Is this something normal that everyone goes

thru?

>

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Montelukast Systematic (IUPAC) name 2-[1-[[(1R)-1-[3-[2-(7-chloroquinolin-2-yl)ethenyl]phenyl]-3-[2-(2-hydroxypropan-2-yl)phenyl]propyl]sulfanylmethyl]cyclopropyl]acetic acid Identifiers CAS number 158966-92-8 ATC code R03DC03 PubChem 60951 DrugBank APRD00434 Chemical data Formula C35H36ClNO3S Mol. mass 586.184 g/mol SMILES eMolecules & PubChem Pharmacokinetic data Bioavailability 63% to 73% Protein binding 99% Metabolism Hepatic (CYP3A4 and CYP2C9-mediated) hepatically metabolized with a half life of 5 hours liz i would wait to take it till after i knew i would not test or take it after on test days... all the best,r mslizrn@... wrote: Does anyone know if Singular is OK. Have terrible allergies and my PMD says it is OK, just want to be sure.

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robin murray <remurraymd@...> wrote: consider www.nasalcrom.com also or instead OTC coats MAST cells prevent them from degranulating releasing histamine causing allergies.safer in terms of interaction side effects. no addictive potential...regards,r robin murray <remurraymd@...> wrote: Montelukast Systematic (IUPAC) name 2-[1-[[(1R)-1-[3-[2-(7-chloroquinolin-2-yl)ethenyl]phenyl]-3-[2-(2-hydroxypropan-2-yl)phenyl]propyl]sulfanylmethyl]cyclopropyl]acetic acid Identifiers CAS number 158966-92-8 ATC code R03DC03 PubChem 60951 DrugBank APRD00434 Chemical data Formula C35H36ClNO3S Mol. mass 586.184 g/mol SMILES eMolecules & PubChem Pharmacokinetic data Bioavailability 63% to 73% Protein binding 99% Metabolism Hepatic (CYP3A4 and CYP2C9-mediated) hepatically metabolized with a

half life of 5 hours liz i would wait to take it till after i knew i would not test or take it after on test days... all the best,r mslizrn@... wrote: Does anyone know if Singular is OK. Have terrible allergies and my PMD says it is OK, just want to be sure.

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most common cause of bad allergies and non-medication prevention liz... Dust is the accumulation of very fine particulates, the kind that you can sometimes see floating around the air when the light streams through the windows late afternoon. It is not healthy to breathe in dirt. Dust mites are live microscopic creatures which inhabit our bedding, carpets and upholstery. Mites feed on human and animal dander, pollen, fungi and bacteria. The food consumption and development of the mites increases with higher relative humidity (70 to 80%) and common indoor temperatures (75 to 80 degrees fahrenheit). Since you spend up to 1/3 of your life in the bedroom and need a good night's sleep it is essential to take care of the dust mite problem there first! To keep it simple, dust mite proof covers on your bedding cut off their food source. Encase

mattresses, boxsprings, pillows and comforters in non-allergenic tightly woven zippered dust mite encasings. Keep your room at a low humidity level and eliminate any dust harboring articles in the room.mslizrn@... wrote: Does anyone know if Singular is OK. Have terrible allergies and my PMD says it is OK, just want to be sure.

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Thank you so much. I hate the thought of little bugs around me!!

-------------- Original message ----------------------

From: robin murray <remurraymd@...>

> most common cause of bad allergies and non-medication prevention liz...

>

> Dust is the accumulation of very fine particulates, the kind that you can

> sometimes see floating around the air when the light streams through the

windows

> late afternoon. It is not healthy to breathe in dirt. Dust mites are live

> microscopic creatures which inhabit our bedding, carpets and upholstery. Mites

> feed on human and animal dander, pollen, fungi and bacteria. The food

> consumption and development of the mites increases with higher relative

humidity

> (70 to 80%) and common indoor temperatures (75 to 80 degrees fahrenheit).

Since

> you spend up to 1/3 of your life in the bedroom and need a good night's sleep

it

> is essential to take care of the dust mite problem there first! To keep it

> simple, dust mite proof covers on your bedding cut off their food source.

Encase

> mattresses, boxsprings, pillows and comforters in non-allergenic tightly woven

> zippered dust mite encasings. Keep your room at a low humidity level and

> eliminate any dust harboring articles in the room.

>

> mslizrn@... wrote:

> Does anyone know if Singular is OK. Have terrible allergies and my

PMD

> says it is OK, just want to be sure.

>

>

>

most common cause of bad allergies and non-medication prevention liz... Dust is the accumulation of very fine particulates, the kind that you can sometimes see floating around the air when the light streams through the windows late afternoon. It is not healthy to breathe in dirt. Dust mites are live microscopic creatures which inhabit our bedding, carpets and upholstery. Mites feed on human and animal dander, pollen, fungi and bacteria. The food consumption and development of the mites increases with higher relative humidity (70 to 80%) and common indoor temperatures (75 to 80 degrees fahrenheit). Since you spend up to 1/3 of your life in the bedroom and need a good night's sleep it is essential to take care of the dust mite problem there first! To keep it simple, dust mite proof covers on your bedding cut off their food source. Encase

mattresses, boxsprings, pillows and comforters in non-allergenic tightly woven zippered dust mite encasings. Keep your room at a low humidity level and eliminate any dust harboring articles in the room.mslizrncomcast (DOT) net wrote: Does anyone know if Singular is OK. Have terrible allergies and my PMD says it is OK, just want to be sure.

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Er yes. I have a cousin in Salt Lake city with whom I regularly e-mail and MSN

Messenger with. We are both Achon:-)

Fred wanting FIVE more people for the occupations list:-))))))))

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Hi to everyone here. Any people here pen pal (or email pen pal)

between LP and/or between LP and those who are related to a LP (such

as myself)?

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Yes..... me! My 9 year old son and I (AH) both talk to and email an

English, achon, 64 year old, old fart..... hehe

Of course, we like to get him to say " hi " to his lovely wife too :o)

Caela

Mum to , 9, achon, New Zealand.

>

> Er yes. I have a cousin in Salt Lake city with whom I regularly

>

>

> Hi to everyone here. Any people here pen pal (or email pen pal)

> between LP and/or between LP and those who are related to a LP (such

> as myself)?

>

>

>

>

>

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Why would I wanna say " Hi " to my wife? She's at LEAST 2 " smaller than me:-)

Re: Question

Yes..... me! My 9 year old son and I (AH) both talk to and email an

English, achon, 64 year old, old fart..... hehe

Of course, we like to get him to say " hi " to his lovely wife too :o)

Caela

Mum to , 9, achon, New Zealand.

>

> Er yes. I have a cousin in Salt Lake city with whom I regularly

>

>

> Hi to everyone here. Any people here pen pal (or email pen pal)

> between LP and/or between LP and those who are related to a LP (such

> as myself)?

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hey nne,

I've had a scs for go on 5 yrs and I have the same problem you with my scs,

when it gets to where I don't feel too much from the scs I call and have them

re-program my scs.

Try it and see if it helps, any time that I don't feel the stimulation very

well I will call and have the scs re-programed, it's their job to keep you happy

with the scs! Hope this helps!

Rob

in Idaho

nne <iloveexoticanimals@...> wrote:

Hi

I am a relatively new SCS user- it was implanted 9-07. Sometimes I feel it

doesn't work as well as it did in the beginning. I also have the problem of

feeling like I'm an antenna and have to twist and bend to get it to work.

Sometimes, laying down on my back or some sitting positions - it does not work.

Usually if I'm sitting- I need to lean forward but on my back I can not find a

way to make it come on. Is this common and any input??

thank you in advance.

nne

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nne,

Do you have a technician to adjust your programs? That was one of my problems.

Also talk to the doctor about it. Your leads could have moved. He may need to do

an x-ray to determine if they have moved and if you need them adjusted. If you

have programs...contact the stimulator representative about new programs or

adjustments to the ones you have.

It is common that the intensity can vary based on your position, but you

shouldn't have to be working so hard to even feel it or get any effect from it.

I would definetely look into it.....

Deanna

nne <iloveexoticanimals@...> wrote:

Hi

I am a relatively new SCS user- it was implanted 9-07. Sometimes I feel it

doesn't work as well as it did in the beginning. I also have the problem of

feeling like I'm an antenna and have to twist and bend to get it to work.

Sometimes, laying down on my back or some sitting positions - it does not work.

Usually if I'm sitting- I need to lean forward but on my back I can not find a

way to make it come on. Is this common and any input??

thank you in advance.

nne

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Yup, chatting, voice and video. Brilliant!

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Does anyone do online chatting here like on messenger? (msn, ?)

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Hi Lukene:

Feel free to add me if you are using MSN.

bigshack918@....

Reese

----- Original Message ----- Does anyone do online chatting here like on

messenger? (msn, ?)

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Yep. Me too. Love it.

willow

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Yep I do it - not as much as I used to.

On 3/6/08, lukene2008 <nebraska32@...> wrote:

>

> Does anyone do online chatting here like on messenger? (msn, ?)

>

>

>

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It kills both. But since it is generally used topically as an antiseptic, it

only kills bacteria locally, unlike antibiotics, which kill bacteria all over

your body.

I'm not sure about low doses taken orally though. Obviously low levels

of iodine don't kill ALL bacteria, or seawater would be totally sterile.

I expect it's like salt: low levels of salt tend to kill bacteria that

cause food-borne illness mainly, but high levels of salt kill anything.

Iodine tends to concentrate in tissues, like your nose, that often

get infected though, so your body might use it to fight pathogens

in general.

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 9:25 PM, simachapchian <simachapchian@...> wrote:

> does iodine kills good and bad bacteria together, or just bad bacteria?

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Thank you !

I am only on 12.5mg of Iodoral. Should I hold off for 2 days and do

the salt flushes??

TKS!

De

>

> Hi De ~

>

> I went for 4 months on 50mg Iodoral, which caused minor acne for

me, until I

> went away for 2 weeks and didn't take my normal supplements. The

acne

> started to rage, but I didn't know it was bromide detox until I

read the

> info on www.breastcancerchoices.org and looked at the pictures in

the Files

> section. I stopped the iodoral for a few days and did salt

flushes, which

> helped. When I got home I started popping extra Vit C and a

liver/kidney

> cleanse product. Better overnight. I've reduced to 25mg/day and

my face is

> doing fine.

>

> As for the other flu-like symptoms, they could also be bromide

detox with

> your kidneys/liver not being able to keep up. Overstressed kidneys

can

> easily create flu-like symptoms.

>

> ~

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> Do either of these give you the flu like symptoms?????? or any

other side

> effects like cystic acne and I recently - 2 days ago woke up and

had a 1mm

> cut above my lip?? If so will these GO AWAY!!! I have an appt

tomorrow for

> my PCP and was going to get the Armour refilled, but now I can

barely

> swallow from a swollen throat/sores so gonna make him treat this

too. No

> other symptoms and the supplements with Armour are the only things

I have

> changed.

>

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I too thought hypothyroid was hypothyroid. If you need thyroid hormone replacement, they you are hypothyroid. However, I do believe that some doctors do refer to 'mild hypothyroidiosm' if you have borderline results. But, we know that having borderline results is one heck of an achievement when the majority of us have 'normal' results, even with many of the horrendous symptoms and signs.

You could write your own letter to the DLA about your symptoms and signs and what medication you are taking and the effect this is having on your life.

Luv - Sheila

Hi AllJust a question .My doctor has written a report for the DLA and statedthat I suffer from Mild Hypothyroidism. I assumed you were eitherhypothyroid or not and had no idea there were degrees ofhypothyroidism but maybe someone out there can put me wright?Luv Frances

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Hi Frances,

I would tend to agree, 'coz it ain't going to get better!

Subject: Question

Hi All

Just a question .My doctor has written a report for the DLA and stated

that I suffer from Mild Hypothyroidism. I assumed you were either

hypothyroid or not and had no idea there were degrees of

hypothyroidism but maybe someone out there can put me wright?

Luv Frances

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Ok I am still on the learning curve hear so

I have to say when you all abreviate stuff it makes me go HUH????

so sorry but what is this HC for adrenals I have been taking some

adrenal support tabs that I have found from Sprouts (our local

country market type Health food store) and I have noticed a good

amount of improvement so I started taking the Iodine 2 days ago.

my tempature before the adrenal support was 96.6-97.6 it is now

around 97.6- 98 and it is now at time hitting the 98.6 from time to

time not like before it never would hit 98.6 unless I was running a

fever and had the flue type symptoms now I when I the 98.6 it almost

feel like I should be there.

any how the reason I was wonder if this HC what ever it is can it

begotten over the counter?? and would it be better than what I am

using

Hear is what I am using now

it is adrenal factors by 's

it has

vitaman C 750mg

Vitamin B-12 (as cobalamin) 900mg

Pantothenic Acid (as Calcium Pantothenate) 450mg

folic acid (as Folacin) 600mcg

Eleuthero root (Eleutherococcus Senticousus) 300 mg

Ashwagandha Root (withania somnifera). 300 mg

Tumeric Root (Curcuma Longa) 300mg

Juniper Berry (Juniperus Communis)300mg

Licorice Root (Glycyrrhiza glabra)300mg

plus I am taking all these a day (daily totals all below)

Omgea 3 3,000 mg

vitman C 4,500 mg

St s Wart 900 mg

zinc 30 mg

magnisium 300 mg

selenium 200mcg

Riboflavon 100 mg

niacin 500 mg

gingko 120mg

Chromium Picolinate 400mcg to 600mcg

I stared all this a month ago because In listening to all of you I

saw how most of you have adreanl problems after you started taking

Iodine so I then found that I met all of the sypmptoms of adrenal

weakness (sorry can't rember the right term) as I have been diagnosed

with Fibormyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndrom so I felt since this

seem to already be a Problem with me I felt it better to start the

other stuff first for a while as it has now been one month and Like I

Said I just started the Iodine just yesterday and so far I cannot

remember ever feeling this good I feel like a human so far and boy

what a feeling.

Note I also am only starting with 25 mg Iodoral in the mornings as I

did not think it was wise to shock my systom and then send me back

into a adrenal fatigue after waking up from it here in this last

month of taking all of this vitamins.

also since I have started all of this I have been able to cut down on

the amount of Ibphrophin and tylonol that I have been taking I have

been living on it for the last 2 years and now I am doing way better

my leg pains have diminished quite abit so yea wow I just hope that

today is a good example of how I will feel in 3 months cuase if I

keep feeling better here Then I will be able to go back to work for

the first time in 3 years

well again thanks and do not forget to let me know about the HC

thanks

>

> OK guys,

> Please clarify. I started the HC for adrenals and have been on this

> for 4.5 days now. I have been on Iodoral for 3 weeks now. I take

many

> supplements, but definitely 4,000 of Vit C...especially NOW...

>

> Do either of these give you the flu like symptoms?????? or any other

> side effects like cystic acne and I recently - 2 days ago woke up

and

> had a 1mm cut above my lip?? If so will these GO AWAY!!! I have an

appt

> tomorrow for my PCP and was going to get the Armour refilled, but

now I

> can barely swallow from a swollen throat/sores so gonna make him

treat

> this too. No other symptoms and the supplements with Armour are the

> only things I have changed.

>

> It's so odd...NO TONSils tough....is this possibly related to the

> iodine???

>

> But then, why would it show up after 3 weeks?

> De

>

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HC is hydrocortisone - it is a prescription for a hormone that is created by

the adrenals.

Iodine actually heals the adrenals. For some it is an issue at higher doses

and for others not. For me it was not. I started right at 50 mgs and

supported my adrenals with a glandular (Biotics Research Cytozyme AD) all

through my start.

Re: QUESTION

> Ok I am still on the learning curve hear so

> I have to say when you all abreviate stuff it makes me go HUH????

> so sorry but what is this HC for adrenals I have been taking some

> adrenal support tabs that I have found from Sprouts (our local

> country market type Health food store) and I have noticed a good

> amount of improvement so I started taking the Iodine 2 days ago.

> my tempature before the adrenal support was 96.6-97.6 it is now

> around 97.6- 98 and it is now at time hitting the 98.6 from time to

> time not like before it never would hit 98.6 unless I was running a

> fever and had the flue type symptoms now I when I the 98.6 it almost

> feel like I should be there.

>

> any how the reason I was wonder if this HC what ever it is can it

> begotten over the counter?? and would it be better than what I am

> using

> Hear is what I am using now

> it is adrenal factors by 's

> it has

> vitaman C 750mg

> Vitamin B-12 (as cobalamin) 900mg

> Pantothenic Acid (as Calcium Pantothenate) 450mg

> folic acid (as Folacin) 600mcg

> Eleuthero root (Eleutherococcus Senticousus) 300 mg

> Ashwagandha Root (withania somnifera). 300 mg

> Tumeric Root (Curcuma Longa) 300mg

> Juniper Berry (Juniperus Communis)300mg

> Licorice Root (Glycyrrhiza glabra)300mg

> plus I am taking all these a day (daily totals all below)

> Omgea 3 3,000 mg

> vitman C 4,500 mg

> St s Wart 900 mg

> zinc 30 mg

> magnisium 300 mg

> selenium 200mcg

> Riboflavon 100 mg

> niacin 500 mg

> gingko 120mg

> Chromium Picolinate 400mcg to 600mcg

>

> I stared all this a month ago because In listening to all of you I

> saw how most of you have adreanl problems after you started taking

> Iodine so I then found that I met all of the sypmptoms of adrenal

> weakness (sorry can't rember the right term) as I have been diagnosed

> with Fibormyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndrom so I felt since this

> seem to already be a Problem with me I felt it better to start the

> other stuff first for a while as it has now been one month and Like I

> Said I just started the Iodine just yesterday and so far I cannot

> remember ever feeling this good I feel like a human so far and boy

> what a feeling.

>

> Note I also am only starting with 25 mg Iodoral in the mornings as I

> did not think it was wise to shock my systom and then send me back

> into a adrenal fatigue after waking up from it here in this last

> month of taking all of this vitamins.

>

> also since I have started all of this I have been able to cut down on

> the amount of Ibphrophin and tylonol that I have been taking I have

> been living on it for the last 2 years and now I am doing way better

>

> my leg pains have diminished quite abit so yea wow I just hope that

> today is a good example of how I will feel in 3 months cuase if I

> keep feeling better here Then I will be able to go back to work for

> the first time in 3 years

>

> well again thanks and do not forget to let me know about the HC

> thanks

>

>

>

>

>>

>> OK guys,

>> Please clarify. I started the HC for adrenals and have been on this

>> for 4.5 days now. I have been on Iodoral for 3 weeks now. I take

> many

>> supplements, but definitely 4,000 of Vit C...especially NOW...

>>

>> Do either of these give you the flu like symptoms?????? or any other

>> side effects like cystic acne and I recently - 2 days ago woke up

> and

>> had a 1mm cut above my lip?? If so will these GO AWAY!!! I have an

> appt

>> tomorrow for my PCP and was going to get the Armour refilled, but

> now I

>> can barely swallow from a swollen throat/sores so gonna make him

> treat

>> this too. No other symptoms and the supplements with Armour are the

>> only things I have changed.

>>

>> It's so odd...NO TONSils tough....is this possibly related to the

>> iodine???

>>

>> But then, why would it show up after 3 weeks?

>> De

>>

>

>

>

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Would be interested in reading the research to support the comment

that Iodine heals the adrenals. Savvy

> >>

> >> OK guys,

> >> Please clarify. I started the HC for adrenals and have been on

this

> >> for 4.5 days now. I have been on Iodoral for 3 weeks now. I take

> > many

> >> supplements, but definitely 4,000 of Vit C...especially NOW...

> >>

> >> Do either of these give you the flu like symptoms?????? or any

other

> >> side effects like cystic acne and I recently - 2 days ago woke

up

> > and

> >> had a 1mm cut above my lip?? If so will these GO AWAY!!! I have

an

> > appt

> >> tomorrow for my PCP and was going to get the Armour refilled,

but

> > now I

> >> can barely swallow from a swollen throat/sores so gonna make him

> > treat

> >> this too. No other symptoms and the supplements with Armour are

the

> >> only things I have changed.

> >>

> >> It's so odd...NO TONSils tough....is this possibly related to

the

> >> iodine???

> >>

> >> But then, why would it show up after 3 weeks?

> >> De

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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There are a few adrenal articles on www.iodine4health.com Iodine is in

every gland and mucosal lining in the body. It is necessary. When not

there the gland will run suboptimally.

Steph

Re: QUESTION

> Would be interested in reading the research to support the comment

> that Iodine heals the adrenals. Savvy

>

>> >>

>> >> OK guys,

>> >> Please clarify. I started the HC for adrenals and have been on

> this

>> >> for 4.5 days now. I have been on Iodoral for 3 weeks now. I take

>> > many

>> >> supplements, but definitely 4,000 of Vit C...especially NOW...

>> >>

>> >> Do either of these give you the flu like symptoms?????? or any

> other

>> >> side effects like cystic acne and I recently - 2 days ago woke

> up

>> > and

>> >> had a 1mm cut above my lip?? If so will these GO AWAY!!! I have

> an

>> > appt

>> >> tomorrow for my PCP and was going to get the Armour refilled,

> but

>> > now I

>> >> can barely swallow from a swollen throat/sores so gonna make him

>> > treat

>> >> this too. No other symptoms and the supplements with Armour are

> the

>> >> only things I have changed.

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The picture is a good one. I go to a Dr. that has one similiar but

shows all the lead wires also.

> Does the group like the added photo I added to the group

> homepage? mike

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Hi Mike,

Thanks for the picture !

mike2boys <mike2boys@...> wrote:

Does the group like the added photo I added to the group

homepage? mike

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