Re: Silver lined clothes?

[Guest guest]

> Did you wear them next to your skin or on top of something?

For the Silvertex 18% Anti-EMI pants, I wear that directly over the

skin. Originally, I was worried about that, but it's been fine. It's

a stretchy material similar to tights, so I'm able to wear pants/jeans

on top of it. However, for the vest that someone sewed for me using

the Tulle fabric, it's not that stretchy or comfortable on the skin,

and I prefer not to wash it, so I usually wear it sandwiched between

two shirts.

Oh... the ratings on the fabrics are on a different page

(http://www.shieldextrading.net). According to the data sheet on

Tulle in http://www.shieldextrading.net/images/pdfs/Tulle.pdf, it's

~60dB, I believe that's 99.9999% reduction.

By the way, someone e-mailed asked me exactly which fabric I'm

referring to-- it's " Tulle Ag Conductive Mesh Fabric; Silver plated

knit mesh fabric -60 " width. $29.28 per yard " under the " SHIELDEX

Metalized Fabrics & Conductive Fabric Tapes " section. Used to be

$24.73 per yard, so it's slightly more expensive before, but I think 1

yard should be enough to make a vest.

I hadn't tried their hood, since I use Tulle for head covering as

well. The reason I chose Tulle amongst their other fabrics is that I

was told that it is the most transparent of shieldex's offerings, and

I like the 60dB rating, since 20dB (99%) is not strong enough for some

of the more powerful cell towers-- additionally, I like that it is

silver unlike some of their other cloths.

> > > >

> > > > > As anyone had experience with silver lined clothes? There

> is a

> > > cell

> > > > > tower about 500 feet from where I live and I am disabled and

> spend

> > > > > most of my time here? (long story but the tower may play a

> big

> > > part in

> > > > > my diability!). I rent and have limited funds so paint is not

> an

> > > > > option (hope to move at the end of the lease as well). The

> > > clothes are

> > > > > appealing too as I could wear them when I go out as well. Do

> > > clothes

> > > > > need to be grounded? I don't trust the wiring in this apt so

> > > couldn't

> > > > > use the ground in the outlet.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Darn!! I ordered too soon from lessemf. To their credit I already

have the fabric, I believe they have same day shipping and sent it

priority mail. I've never recieved anything so fast. But I could have

saved alot by ordering the Tulle. Can you purchase partial yards,

like half a yard? Thanks for the rating website. Tonight will be the

first I sleep with a shield up. I got to the hardware store too late

(to buy grounding rod and wire) but will be doing that in a few

days.

The cap (baseball style) I bought from lessemf was a

dissapointment. I first planned to send it back, but after reading

the fine print, decided not to, there is a 20% restocking fee plus of

course the return shipping. The cap is just too shallow for my

tastes, it doesn't feel secure on my head. I compared it to other

baseball caps I own and I can see the difference. But mostly it

doesn't feel right, but I experimented by wrapping a bandana around

it and figured a way to hold it on my head better and plus make it

more attractive!! The cap is pale tan but now it can be any color

bandana I have. Just wanted to let everyone know in case they

considered buying this cap. It might work for you but it is shallow.

Kathy.

> > > > >

> > > > > > As anyone had experience with silver lined clothes?

There

> > is a

> > > > cell

> > > > > > tower about 500 feet from where I live and I am disabled

and

> > spend

> > > > > > most of my time here? (long story but the tower may play

a

> > big

> > > > part in

> > > > > > my diability!). I rent and have limited funds so paint is

not

> > an

> > > > > > option (hope to move at the end of the lease as well).

The

> > > > clothes are

> > > > > > appealing too as I could wear them when I go out as well.

Do

> > > > clothes

> > > > > > need to be grounded? I don't trust the wiring in this apt

so

> > > > couldn't

> > > > > > use the ground in the outlet.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/13/2008 4:05:55 A.M. GMT Daylight Time,

aquilawolf@... writes:

course the return shipping. The cap is just too shallow for my

tastes, it doesn't feel secure on my head. I compared it to other

baseball caps I own and I can see the difference. But mostly it

doesn't feel right, but I experimented by wrapping a bandana around

it and figured a way to hold it on my head better and plus make it

more attractive!! The cap is pale tan but now it can be any color

bandana I have. Just wanted to let everyone know in case they

considered buying this cap. It might work for you but it is shallow.

We could hook up with a brave surgeon and get a silver mesh inserted under

our scalps permanently - now how about that !

PUK

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/13/2008 7:26:23 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,

evie15422@... writes:

The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies. Trees are full of

water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they attract emfs

and microwaves just like we do. Since they are much larger than us, they

You dont think that trees absorb but also frequencies travel down to earth

via branches and trunk into roots only to re-emerge else where ?

puk

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

 

The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies.  Trees are full of water

(like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they attract emfs and

microwaves just like we do.  Since they are much larger than us, they can block

alot.  The trees I have mentioned (and others) grow very quickly--about 3 to 5

feet a year.  If you live far enough south, magnolia trees are also a good

shield, as they are evergreen.  I live in Pa, and also managed (!!!) to grow a

southern magnolia ( " Edith Bogue " ), which grew for me at a rate of at least 6

feet a year.  It was over the roof in no time!  This one tree shields a 24ft X

24 ft by 30ft hi section of my back yard--from 3 directions.  I strategically

placed it to shield my kitchen from sun and traffic noise, but allow me to

enjoy full view of my back yard.  It was an added bonus after I became ES that

it also shields from frequencies.  

 

If you are going to try trees for shielding remember to plant evergreens, as the

deciduous trees do not shield 6 months of the year, due to losing their moisture

rich leaves.  I buy the trees when they go on sale (after the big spring

gardening rush, but some places would have them still now).  And I buy as large

a tree I can find, as long as it is in good condition.  I personally have

sources to buy fairly large trees to begin with, tho you will not want to buy

more than a 5 foot tree (without the rootball) if you are planting it yourself,

with help of at least 1-2 other people.  If you have the help of 3 or 4 people,

you can manage to plant a tree that is close to 7ft, not including the

rootball.  Any more than that and you will need it professionally delivered and

installed.  If it is an arborvitae, it will be lighter and easier to plant and

you might be able to plant a bit larger one by yourself.  My husband and I have

managed 7ft

arborvitaes on our own.  Also, if you plan to remove bottom branches of the

tree in time, in order to see under it as I have done with my magnolia, you will

want to plant evergreen shrubs to the outside of your tree, as well.

 

Glad I was of some help,

Diane

From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...>

Subject: Re: Silver lined clothes?

Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM

What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop

has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help

scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,

you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there

are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some

type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers

(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other

directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come

up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I

can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I

did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want

to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let

everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and

can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the

fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more

efficent.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Dear Evie

Did you know that fall out shelters were not built near to trees because the

branches and leaves hold the harmful emissions.

And I'm not sure about trees shielding against emf and rf. I had several huge

pines all the way down my yard and used to sit under one when it was bad but it

didn't ease the effects felt from the high emf.

It seems logical that a tree that has its roots deep in the ground should be an

excellent ground but I believe we're dealing with things outside of the norm of

ordinary electricity.

Maureen

Re: Silver lined clothes?

Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM

What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop

has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help

scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,

you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there

are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some

type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers

(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other

directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come

up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I

can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I

did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want

to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let

everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and

can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the

fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more

efficent.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

If you looked hard enough you actually might find someone who would

try it. I think I'll stick with my cap!

Kathy

>

>

> In a message dated 7/13/2008 4:05:55 A.M. GMT Daylight Time,

> aquilawolf@... writes:

>

> course the return shipping. The cap is just too shallow for my

> tastes, it doesn't feel secure on my head. I compared it to other

> baseball caps I own and I can see the difference. But mostly it

> doesn't feel right, but I experimented by wrapping a bandana

around

> it and figured a way to hold it on my head better and plus make it

> more attractive!! The cap is pale tan but now it can be any color

> bandana I have. Just wanted to let everyone know in case they

> considered buying this cap. It might work for you but it is

shallow.

>

>

>

> We could hook up with a brave surgeon and get a silver mesh

inserted under

> our scalps permanently - now how about that !

> PUK

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Fortunately, there are already trees between me and the closest

(twin)cell tower. They are deciduous though. I'll keep that in mind

when I move. If I can't get away from radiation I can maybe pick a

spot with more trees.

I have an ash right in front of my apt living room window between

me and the tower and it grew really quick. I water it regular and it

is hugh compared to another ash that came up at the same time across

the parking lot. Yeah trees!

Kathy

> From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@...>

> Subject: Re: Silver lined clothes?

>

> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM

> What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to

stop

> has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they

help

> scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,

> you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that

there

> are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some

> type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers

> (that really worry me) and also have protection from the other

> directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I

come

> up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and

I

> can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I

> did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really

want

> to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will

let

> everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store

and

> can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the

> fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more

> efficent.

>

> Kathy

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[Guest guest]

You mean once radiations are grounded they can erupt elsewhere? Don't

they just go deeper into the earth and get recycled into something

harmless? I thought that was the purpose of a grounding rod.

Kathy

>

>

> In a message dated 7/13/2008 7:26:23 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,

> evie15422@... writes:

>

> The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies. Trees are

full of

> water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they

attract emfs

> and microwaves just like we do. Since they are much larger than

us, they

>

>

> You dont think that trees absorb but also frequencies travel down

to earth

> via branches and trunk into roots only to re-emerge else where ?

>

> puk

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Maureen,

 

I can't refute or support anything you say here.  I am not schooled in these

subjects.  I only know that trees shield me.  They might not work for everyone

and they don't always work 100% for me.  Do I feel a difference behind one?  I

surely do.  When I was looking for a new home, I was amazed how I could walk

thru the yards of houses we were considering and be completely fine, only to

come to a gap in the landscaping and get an immediate headache.  There are

probably reasons why trees work for me and not you.  There are areas I go to

where trees do not help, as well.  These are areas where there are many close

towers all over the place in a several mile radius.  (One such town has 77 cell

towers and nearly 100 microwave towers--no amount of trees help me there!)  But

in most of the areas I am in, trees do shield enough for me to be comfortable,

because they are between me and only 1 or 2 towers. 

 

Diane

From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolfjuno (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Silver lined clothes?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM

What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop

has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help

scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,

you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there

are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some

type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers

(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other

directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come

up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I

can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I

did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want

to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let

everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and

can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the

fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more

efficent.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Hi, ,

 

Nor do I have expertise in this subject.  I have no idea whether the emfs emerge

somewhere else.  But my experience is it isn't seeming to bother me, if they

are.  If that were the case tho, wouldn't we feel awful in a forest, instead of

feeling revived and invigorated?  And, actually, the same is true for leaves

harboring harmful whatever.  When you walk thru a forest, do you feel better or

worse?  I feel better, personally. 

 

Diane

From: paulpjc@... <paulpjc@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Silver lined clothes?

Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 5:51 PM

In a message dated 7/13/2008 7:26:23 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,

evie15422 (DOT) com writes:

The trees work by attracting and absorbing frequencies. Trees are full of

water (like us; that is why we attract frequencies) and so they attract emfs

and microwaves just like we do. Since they are much larger than us, they

You dont think that trees absorb but also frequencies travel down to earth

via branches and trunk into roots only to re-emerge else where ?

puk

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/14/2008 6:48:29 A.M. GMT Daylight Time,

evie15422@... writes:

Hi, ,

Nor do I have expertise in this subject. I have no idea whether the emfs

emerge somewhere else. But my experience is it isn't seeming to bother me, if

they are. If that were the case tho, wouldn't we feel awful in a forest,

instead of feeling revived and invigorated? And, actually, the same is true

for

leaves harboring harmful whatever. When you walk thru a forest, do you feel

better or worse? I feel better, personally.

Diane

I think that trees will of course offer some shade from RF, but most of the

forests/woods I have walked in are generally less irradiated on the basis

that the antennea is often not aim directly at large swathes of woodland as

this

would be a waste of RF transmissions as they are largely uninhabited areas.

The temperature in a forest, the humidity, and general ambience will no

doubt seem protective. I have not had enough experience of wlaking in such

areas

to make a solid decision on how they compare to say an open area with same

ambient radiation, but trees must make a difference hopefully a positive one

on the whole.

puk

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/14/2008 3:10:32 A.M. GMT Daylight Time,

aquilawolf@... writes:

You mean once radiations are grounded they can erupt elsewhere? Don't

they just go deeper into the earth and get recycled into something

harmless? I thought that was the purpose of a grounding rod.

Kathy

>

>

In my experience earth locally you will get it broadcast back locally the

earth cable needs to be full shielded and the earthling rod or better still

rods, should be well away from your vicinity. We also have the problem whne

earthing not to bring in unwanted RF energies from elsewhere ie from someone

else`s earthing system such as HAM radio etc,,

See how you feel ES does not lie or give you respite for nothing.

puk

[Guest guest]

Dear Evie, sorrry for my late reply.

If I had the choice to be close to trees or not I would

choose them, But I felt I had to point out for other

sufferers here that trees didn't help me with the emf.

I do believe that there is different technology and that what

you may be experiencing is different to me. Certainly mine

is not due to power lines or masts.

77 cell towers in one town is a lot and it's time something

was done to stop their spread. We're getting some concept

of what they're capable of and one has to wonder.

All the best to you I hope you're able to overcome.

Maureen

Re: Silver lined clothes?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM

What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop

has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help

scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,

you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there

are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some

type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers

(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other

directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come

up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I

can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I

did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want

to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let

everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and

can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the

fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more

efficent.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Hi, Maureen,

 

Yes, trees help me only with shielding outside power lines, cell or microwave

towers, or transformers.  They do not help with in-house problems or emfs caused

by dirty electricity or fan motors, etc.  They are much like using aluminum

foil.  They have to be placed correctly or they will not shield at all.  But I

like to use them because they really make the yard more peaceful from

everything: traffic noises and smells, barking dogs, prying eyes, emfs....  you

name it, trees seem to help absorb and shield it.  And trees grow and shield

much quicker than most give them credit for.  They even help I think with some

of the vibrational frequencies that bother me.

 

Re 77 towers, etc--yes, really excessive, don't you think?!?  We finally bought

a house in a small town where there are 5 towers--I think 2 are microwaves, but

all are over 3 miles away.  I looked for 2 1/2 years to find this!  Couldn't

find a house in all that time that was mold-free, pesticide-free, +/or ES free

anywhere within a 100 mile radius!  We almost bought a house a year ago in a

town with only 3 towers, but then we found out that the area was slated for a

large garbage treatment plant.  (Of course, locate it in the only clean area

around!)  We were amazed that even in the country away from everything, it was

often as bad or worse than the towns!  There the towers are much stronger

frequencies.  It never occurred to me that finding a house would be so

difficult.  I joked to a friend that I was going to move to Amish country and

she (who lives closer to Amish country) replied that I could forget that.... 

she knew an Amish farmer

who just leased his grain silo out to a cell phone company for a tower site! 

That beats all, doesn't it? 

 

Hope things are better for you and the people (not) in the house next to yours

are quiet, es-wise, now.  

 

Thanks, Maureen;  

Diane

  

From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>

Subject: Re: Silver lined clothes?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM

What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop

has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help

scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,

you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there

are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some

type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers

(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other

directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come

up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I

can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I

did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want

to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let

everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and

can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the

fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more

efficent.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

I think a difficulty with all of this is telling loved ones

what is there and how it's affecting you, especially

when they're thousands of miles away and unable to

help. It's like a dual agony in sharing and just causes

hurt so I tend to not speak of it as it is. It's not good.

How can you explain things like frequencies which

today in my home have been different tones that

disorient me if I'm not shielded? In fact if I didn't shield

myself I truly don't think I'd be able to live with it. As it

is I scrape by. But what a way to live. I look like a

martian in my own home

At times I just can't keep awake, it's like an hypnotic

frequency sound that just sends me to sleep.

The EMF has also been high and it really is too much.

Enjoy your trees and I hope your new home is one of

safety for you.

Maureen

Re: Silver lined clothes?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM

What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop

has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help

scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,

you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there

are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some

type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers

(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other

directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come

up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I

can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I

did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want

to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let

everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and

can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the

fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more

efficent.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Hi again, Maureen,

 

I am almost the opposite--I can share with my family/friends far away, but not

the close ones.  My local relatives are all very close-minded, provincial

people.  My son in NYC and relatives out West are all very progressive minded. 

They have no problem understanding what I am struggling with.  You should try

talking about it with your family some.  You might find they are more open than

you think.  My son read an article on another woman in Texas with ES.  He was

stunned because he knew I had a problem, but didn't know how profoundly it

affected me because I had never told him.  It opened up the entire subject for

us and now we discuss possible helps for me and all sorts of things that might

or might not have to do with ES--solar flares, for instance, and body polarity,

when he calls.  He is a really out-of-the-box thinker.  He comes up with all

sorts of new spins on things.  I have been accused of this myself, but he can

make me sound

completely normal by comparison.  lol

 

I used to have the problem with staying awake also, but I really think that was

due to not enough exercise and movement on my part and/or too little vit D. 

(Vit D may play a part because I really notice this in the wintertime when

I don't get out enough.)  I found that when I made a habit of frequenting parks

for walking that my sleepiness went away after awhile (at first, I wanted to

sleep as soon as I arrived back home!  I was really sleepy!)  I find that if I

miss my walks for several days that I end up falling asleep when I sit down and

am quiet.  But if I go out for a walk at least every other day, I am not as apt

to fall asleep when I am sitting down.  I swear sometimes I can even feel my

blood coagulating--it feels almost like my blood stops moving in my body from

being too sedate.  Of course I know that isn't actually what is happening, but

that is what it feels like.  I need to work alot sitting down, so I try sitting

on the

sofa with my feet propped up and I set a timer to remind me to break, as I can

work for hours without moving if I am not interrupted.  Then at least if I do

fall asleep I wake up when I hear the timer go off.     

 

Sorry to hear you are still having such bad days.  Is there anywhere you can go

for some peace?  I can imagine what you look like!  You are a cute martian,

btw!  lol 

 

Thank you, dear, re wishing me success in my new home.  I hope we can all find

peace from ES very soon,

Diane 

From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolf@ juno. com>

Subject: Re: Silver lined clothes?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM

What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop

has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help

scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,

you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there

are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some

type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers

(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other

directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come

up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I

can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I

did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want

to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let

everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and

can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the

fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more

efficent.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Hallo Evie,

trees are shielding because the water contained in the leafes. In

electroacupuncture I could measure that about one inch of water is enough to

block out the biological harmful effect of the microwaves of the mobile phone.

Measuring this effect in front and behind an apple tree near a mobile station,

there was a significant decrease of this harmful effect - 30-50% depending on

the size of the tree. Silver lined clothes are no real solution, because the

Tesla waves responsible for the harmful effect of emf easily penetrate any

metallic shielding. Though they are somewhat modified, which helps a little and

gives the illusion that a perfect shielding with metallic material eventually

would solve the problem. I have discussed the background of this repeatedly in

this list with no response, so i will not repeat myself here.

dietrich

Dear Evie

Did you know that fall out shelters were not built near to trees because the

branches and leaves hold the harmful emissions.

And I'm not sure about trees shielding against emf and rf. I had several huge

pines all the way down my yard and used to sit under one when it was bad but it

didn't ease the effects felt from the high emf.

It seems logical that a tree that has its roots deep in the ground should be an

excellent ground but I believe we're dealing with things outside of the norm of

ordinary electricity.

Maureen

Re: Silver lined clothes?

Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM

What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop

has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help

scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,

you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there

are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some

type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers

(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other

directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come

up with. Thanks for your detailed20description. It is encourging and I

can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I

did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want

to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let

everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and

can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the

fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more

efficent.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

> I have discussed the background of this repeatedly in this list

> with no response, so i will not repeat myself here.

One can read the background of this in an article downloadable

from this page:

http://golden-ray.com/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=12 & Itemid=15

Marc

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Dietrich,

 

That is my experience also (tho I have gone on personal intuition and how things

affect me, as I am not a scientist myself).  Thanks for sharing your

experiment.  

 

Diane aka Evie 

From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolfjuno (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Silver lined clothes?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM

What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop

has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help

scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,

you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there

are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some

type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers

(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other

directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come

up with. Thanks for your detailed20descripti on. It is encourging and I

can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I

did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want

to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let

everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and

can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the

fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more

efficent.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Gruendg wrote:

> Silver lined clothes are no real solution, because the Tesla waves >

responsible for the harmful effect of emf easily penetrate any

> metallic shielding.

I just want to point out that there are others who have ES who have

similarly benefited from silver mesh as you can see from the following

two programs:

http://www.mastsanity.org/index.php?option=com_content & task=view & id=157 & Itemid=1\

28

regarding Dacre, and

http://www.robindestoits.org/-Portables,-Wifi-ondes-dangereuses-Emission-66-Minu\

tes-sur-M6-20-05-2008_a348.html

It is so heart-warming to hear about other individuals using silver

mesh and RF detection devices, knowing that I am not alone in this.

> From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolfjuno (DOT) com>

> Subject: Re: Silver lined clothes?

> groups (DOT) com

> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM

> What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop

> has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help

> scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,

> you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there

> are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some

> type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers

> (that really worry me) and also have protection from the other

> directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come

> up with. Thanks for your detailed20descripti on. It is encourging and I

> can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I

> did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want

> to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let

> everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and

> can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the

> fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more

> efficent.

>

> Kathy

>

>

[Guest guest]

 

A Building Biologist said that trees would block some of the RF from the Cell

towers.

 

Loni

 

From: spiralwindintrees <aquilawolfjuno (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Silver lined clothes?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:47 PM

What great ideas. Doesn't sound like overkill if it is needed to stop

has much microwaves has possible. How do the trees work? Do they help

scatter the radition? I may try something with aluminum foil then,

you have given me some ideas, though one concern for me is that there

are towers in other directions has well, so I would love it if some

type of clothing would help. Then I could block the closer towers

(that really worry me) and also have protection from the other

directions has well has whatever is flowing around the shields I come

up with. Thanks for your detailed description. It is encourging and I

can get creative with what inexpensive things I can come up with. I

did order a 5'x6' silver mesh fabric from lessemf.com. I really want

to make sure I can get some good shielding while I sleep. I will let

everyone here know how it works! I checked at the hardware store and

can buy copper insulated wire and a brass stake so I can ground the

fabric. Just about $11 and it seems it might make the shield more

efficent.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Wearing metallic mesh makes you a great destination for ground current. It

does not matter whether the fabric is touching you or not. When I was first

learning about electrical pollution and ground currents, I had a very

frightening experience that involved having metallic cloth surrounding my chest

area,

but not touching me. My intention was to shield myself from communication

frequencies from a nearby radio tower. It turned out that ground current was

going up a leg, circling my chest, then going back down the other leg, as I was

standing in a place with high-frequency ground current. The RF was

broadcast into my chest and affected my heart and it was indeed scary.

Shivani Arjuna

www.LifeEnergies.com

**************

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[Guest guest]

Interesting. I think that may be possible especially when there are high

frequency ground currents,

which is usually the case.

If you had a conductive pad under your feet that would have solved the

problem I'm pretty sure.

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:42 PM, <SArjuna@...> wrote:

> Wearing metallic mesh makes you a great destination for ground current.

> It

> does not matter whether the fabric is touching you or not. When I was first

>

> learning about electrical pollution and ground currents, I had a very

> frightening experience that involved having metallic cloth surrounding my

> chest area,

> but not touching me. My intention was to shield myself from communication

> frequencies from a nearby radio tower. It turned out that ground current

> was

> going up a leg, circling my chest, then going back down the other leg, as I

> was

> standing in a place with high-frequency ground current. The RF was

> broadcast into my chest and affected my heart and it was indeed scary.

> Shivani Arjuna

> www.LifeEnergies.com

>

> **************

> Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and

> fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos.

>

> (

>

http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017)

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/8/2008 2:57:39 P.M. GMT Daylight Time, wbruno@...

writes:

Interesting. I think that may be possible especially when there are high

frequency ground currents,

which is usually the case.

If you had a conductive pad under your feet that would have solved the

problem I'm pretty sure.

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:42 PM, <_SArjuna@..._ (mailto:SArjuna@...) >

wrote:

> Wearing metallic mesh makes you a great destination for ground current.

> It

> does not matter whether the fabric is touching you or not. When I was first

>

> learning about electrical pollution and ground currents, I had a very

> frightening experience that involved having metallic cloth surrounding my

> chest area,

> but not touching me. My intention was to shield myself from communication

> frequencies from a nearby radio tower. It turned out that ground current

> was

> going up a leg, circling my chest, then going back down the other leg, as I

> was

> standing in a place with high-frequency ground current. The RF was

> broadcast into my chest and affected my heart and it was indeed scary.

> Shivani Arjuna

> www.LifeEnergies.

whatever hf signal is coming in via my telecoms and electrics form approx

3pm until 9pm every day makes my skin crawl and heart feel dippy. I wish I

could get to the bottom of it but nobody seems interested in helping me. I

have

tracked it to 2 telecom poles one near my house and one further away. Over

the road it dies off between 2 houses. But the owners are not open to my

concerns. Offcom will come out only if tv or radio are effected not intrested

is

bio effects occur !! This is almost driving me out of my home. Were are

talking Dirty power/invasive broadband/sky radiation leakage across utilities.

I am getting increasingly angry here.

P UK