ES and STRESS a bad combination !

June 13, 2006

Thanks Marc - They are the usual cassette type every 1m or so, no chance of

touching them. Never used any devices but have contemplated a hat, but of

course there are practicalities here and also prejdudice to encounter (oh look

its the twat with the hat sort of thing )

Yes I can relate to the 10 min this is when I start to feel symtoms heighten

and then on it down hill - that said and I have wanted to mention this for a

whiel I can get passed the real discomfort still feel grotty and find myself

in a sort of dull phase a plateux where I can function on 3 cylinders, but

sadly some while after a real low sets in say few hours to 24 -48hrs after !!

This is same with exposure to all forms of emr not just strip lights. Also

if I am on the move the symptoms are not so quick to set in, ie not sat at a

desk but moving around, it seems that the mussiness is more of a disability

when you are trying to get a complex task done in an office (elec appliance

overload) than say sitting in a pub chatting, has any one else made this

observation, it is this taht can sometimes make people think that its all in

mind

when they see you in both environments grr grrr grr !

cheers

June 13, 2006

Trying to hold down an office/travelling based job has got to be an

extreme challenge for the ES both mentally and physically. After

approx 40mins in an average office under flourescent lights my body

is saying " get me out of here " ,(have to add that this is not same

feeling as general anxiety but more deep almost cellular

stress/warning) it becomes an endurance test, feel the fear and do it

anyway ! I enjoy the positive stress, but the aformentioned gets you

from the inside out after a while. My worry here is that I have held

down a 2.5 day/week job for past 6 months, on 2 days much travelling

in a car to make site visits, plus a stop back at office say 1-2

hours, on 1/2 day 3.5 hours in office. Well folks Iam reaching

meltdown, like most Essers if I play my cards rights I can stay just

on the good side of health, but all this suffer/recover cycle is

heading downhill. Just recently I have found that my Glands under my

armpits are starting to throb when I get tired low, (impact of office

stays and travelling and bodysnatched mobile phone freaks) I have

increased sensitivity on lefthandside of temple/forehead/head a

feeling rather the aftermath of having been whacked with a bat !

somewhere between pain and ???, I have increased heat sensitivity ie

I notice heat from Lightbulbs and say gas stove even when they have

been off for some time walking past at say 1m away ? My short term

memory is getting to the point where Iam feeling like an alchiemers

patient, I have to stay very focussed in order to complete a

sentence.....

Well its the glands that are troubling me this is new - What do you

think my fellow Essers and co... ?

regards

June 13, 2006

> Well its the glands that are troubling me this is new - What do you

> think my fellow Essers and co... ?

You may need some thyroid or adrenal support (herbs, glandulars, etc.)

I usually defer such decisions to my nutritionist, who can come up

with something that will test well on the electrodermal screening

machine.

Perhaps flower essences could be of help? Have you tried Rescue

Remedy?

But yes, travel can be very difficult, as you can never predict

what will be in the environment you are going to, and what things

you need to bring with you to protect against them! (I was recently

on a short trip, and was overwhelmed with the smell of wood varnish,

which is something I could have never predicted. No ES issues

though, as I brought some devices with me to the local Internet

Cafe)

Marc

June 13, 2006

> After approx 40mins in an average office under flourescent lights

> my body is saying " get me out of here "

Do you have a desk where you spend most of your time? If so, can

you unscrew the flourescent lights directly above you?

Have you tried any of the items from Quantum Products for

flourescent light tolerance? I find these work better than

anything else I've tried.

Marc (who spends 8 hours a day in a large room full of flourescent

lights, and can definitely relate to this problem, as many years

ago I'd start feeling bad after about 10 minutes of this!)

June 13, 2006

> This is same with exposure to all forms of emr not just strip lights.

> Also if I am on the move the symptoms are not so quick to set in, ie not sat

> at a desk but moving around, it seems that the mussiness is more of a

> disability when you are trying to get a complex task done in an office (elec

> appliance overload) than say sitting in a pub chatting

I don't think the environment in a typical pub is nearly as bad as

a typical office. But there does seem to be something about

moving about/changing one's environment that seems to help. Could

be that the body doesn't become " entrained " on a single frequency

pattern. Could be that the lymphatics are being properly flushed

by moving about. Could also be that in an office, trying to

think & concentrate contributes to your overall stress load, which

contributes to the ES.

Marc

June 13, 2006

> Never used any devices but have contemplated a hat, but of

> course there are practicalities here and also prejdudice to encounter (oh

> look its the twat with the hat sort of thing )

Yes, I have been conscious of appearances, so I've excluded

a number of options suggested here (aluminum foil surrounding the

computer, special hats, etc.) just based on appearances. Also,

some of the EMF devices stand out and look rather strange, especially

if you have to stick them onto your computer monitor, etc.

But nobody notices things in your pants pocket, or something that

looks like a regular power strip.

Marc

June 14, 2006

Hi, ,

Sorry to hear you are having so much trouble working! My sympathies.

As for the underarm pain... That is a lymphatic congestion symptom. If you

use anti-perspirant, stop using it. You can use a deodorant without

anti-perpirant, but the chemicals in those might make your underarms more

tender. Baking soda or the deodorant mineral rocks might work for you if you

need something to control odor. You want to promote as much perspiration as

possible so that your underarm glands are not congested or blocked. Also,

soaking in sea salts or epsom salts, various herbs helps alot. I get lymphatic

swelling alot in my ankles and behind my knees. The salts soaks do wonders

immediately.

There are various things which help lymphatic congestion. Getting good

exercise is very helpful--especially rebounding on a trampoline (creates a

weightless point and also a point where upward force is exerted). This helps

because the lymphatic system moves against gravity and has only muscle movement

to propel it along. Creating a good sweat and then soaking or showering right

after is very helpful. Very hot soaks or showers are helpful. Also, I have

alot of problem with swelling behind my ears. EFT and neck/upper back massages

help this alot. EFT--I pat the top of my head for 20 seconds, slap my wrists on

each hand three finger widths up from wrist creases 20 seconds (gently), and

slap my ankles four finger widths up from my inner ankles on each foot 20

seconds gently.

Lymphatic congestion can be a sign of bad toxin removal elsewhere. In other

words, the liver, kidneys, and lungs need to be in working order, as well. You

can do a search online for all sorts of helps for these. Detoxing products,

drinking more quality water +/or cranberry juice, breathing exercises, etc, etc,

etc... Just enter a search for lymphatic congestion and this will bring up

alot. Constipation (find ways to control constipation) can play a part in this

and, of course, toxin overload is the cause in the first place, so anything that

can lower your bodily toxin load helps. This can be anything from eating better

foods (more organic foods, no sugar or artificial sweeteners, fewer processed

foods, getting a handle on personal food intolerances); to avoiding molds and

mildew, dust, personal allergens, pesticides; to taking supplements to support

the lymphatic system (pantethine, CoQ10, and calcium).... The list is endless.

Of all the problems I have had to deal with in my life, I have never had a

problem that had so many choices of therapies from which to choose and so many

which were very inexpensive or cost nothing. Lymphatic congestion can cause

incredible problems if it is not dealt with. For many, many years I didn't know

what was causing this and I mentioned it to many doctors or they, in fact,

mentioned it to me (due to feeling the swollen glands themselves) but they gave

me no idea there were treatments or what the causes were! This led me to have

adrenal dysfunction literally due to lack of nutrition to run them, because my

nutrients were all going to running my dysfunctional lymphatic system. When I

finally found out how to deal with this, it truly changed my life in just a few

months! (I had been bed-ridden for over a decade! I could not walk across a

room without collapsing from my blood pressure plummeting, due to adrenal

dysfunction.) Also, I had painful fibromyalgia,

which I know now goes by another name--lymphatic congestion. The memory

problems are a part of this too--also brain fog and concentration problems. The

temple pain also.

So, good luck. Happily, finding help for the lymphatic congestion is a walk

in the park compared to your other problems. Getting toxins under control that

lead to lymphatic congestion will be the hardest part of this.

My best to you,

Diane

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