Guest guest Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Dear Mike, Thanks for your kind offer to help me locate a raw dairy source. I am in south Florida. Even the local health food store that used to carry raw milk on a regular basis can't get it any more. The Health Department Gestapo really got nasty with them and brought that to a halt. I imagine the milk producers were also harrassed and intimidated. I have also looked into cow sharing, but the shipping expenses were prohibitive. At this point, dairy really isn't as much of a priority as VCO, coconuts and cultured veggies. Hopefully, in a few years, I will have an organic coconut farm in Belize, and my own goats to tend to. --- Mike <mikeroyusa@...> wrote: > What state are you in that you can't get raw milk > anymore? > > I had that problem when I first was making my kefir. > I > found out ways to still get some. If you are > interested, I can share with you some of the ways > such > as cow-sharing, COOP, etc.... > > --- Henley <heavenlycoconuts@...> > wrote: > > > Mike, > > > > As I recall, Graves/Hasimoto's Disease are > > synonymous > > with each other. Your explanation that you are > > healing > > and empowering your immune system seems logical, > > although I'm not a doctor. And, I am encouraged by > > your progress! > > > > Your raw egg/keifer breakfast sounds familiar, > > except > > I prepared mine with vanilla (not Spirulina). > [Don't > > get me wrong, I love the taste of Spirulina too.] > I > > assume that you are culturing your own keifer with > > raw > > milk. I no longer have access to fresh, raw dairy > > products, so I have been without for about a year > > now. > > I have been enjoying home-made cultured veggies > > instead. > > > > From 1990 -2003, I was allergic to ALL dairy > > products, > > and wound-up with a sinus infection every time I > ate > > or drank the minutest amount of it. Then after > > reading > > Jordan Rubin's book, Restoring Your Digestive > > Health, > > I decided to try GOL Gotein IG (Goat milk > > Colostrum). > > To my amazement, I was then able to enjoy raw > dairy > > (and eggs) without any problems. I still can't > > handle > > pasteurized. > > > > I am wondering how long are you planning the > Detox? > > I'll be thinking of you. After reading the candida > > site information, I now have a better > understanding > > of > > how the die-off process works: if your die-off > > symptoms get too intense, that means that your > body > > is > > not eliminating the toxic load quickly enough. So > to > > correct this, you can decrease the VCO and > increase > > water to flush it out faster. VCO truly is > powerful > > medicine! > > > > Hopefully, your experience will be better than > what > > I > > went through, but if the Detox is more than you > can > > handle, you might consider doing a coconut > smoothie > > fast instead. The following is borrowed from an > > earlier post: > > > > WFN is having a closeout on their (dated) coconut > > spread. I just ordered TEN CASES (240 jars total). > > > I > > have been mixing it in the blender with water, > ice, > > vanilla and stevia to transform it into a > delicious > > drink... > > > > I am now on Day Three of a delicious Coconut > > Smoothie > > Fast (see my recipe above), while supplementing > with > > Caproil and Super Seed. I have ample energy, and > NO > > uncomfortable die-off symptoms! I wasn't really > > planning on it. It is just that I have been > feeling > > so > > well, I thought I'd continue until I feel the need > > for > > something else. > > > > Asanti! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Discover > > Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM > > and more. Check it out! > > http://discover./online.html > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 I recommend finding the underground local sources of raw organic milk. Yes, my brother runs Organic Pastures and I am still recommending everyone to find local sources. There is plenty to go around and the raw milk movement is more important than individual profit. Go here to find some sources: http://www.realmilk.com/ On Dec 13, 2005, at 8:57 PM, Cara wrote: > Yikes. Unavailable or illegal? I hope not. Does anyone know if this is > true of other states > too, like Kentucky or Indiana? My husband and I are finally fed up > with the San Francisco > Bay Area and will be moving back to the Midwest early in 2006. I know > Whole Foods has > locations in the Midwest and I was assuming (naively I guess) that > they would stock > Organic Pastures products, since the California (or at least San > Francisco) locations do. > Someone please tell me I won't have to pay a $21 shipping charge for > milk! We are going > through five to six gallons of this stuff a week, right now. > > Marc, seriously, have you filled out one of those customer service > request forms at Whole > Foods, asking them to stock this product? > > ~ Cara > > > >> Well, at least you have a local store that you can buy this from. >> It seems to be unavailable (or possibly illegal) in Washington >> state. >> >> As for drop-shipments, they told me that the shipping cost of >> 2 gallons of milk was $23 (as opposed to $21 for 1 gallon), and >> that in the freezer the milk would last 3 months. >> >> Marc >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 > I recommend finding the underground local sources of raw organic milk. > Yes, my brother runs Organic Pastures and I am still recommending > everyone to find local sources. In our local news yesterday there was a big story about some local children getting e-coli from a local source of raw milk. I think I'll stick to Organic Pastures, since they seem to have excellent safety standards. BTW, my raw milk arrived in the mail yesterday, and I tried a little (the frozen container was thawing). My first impression is that this was doing *very* good things for my health, and also that it was quite tasty (like drinking melted vanilla ice cream). Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Marc, please keep us posted on your impressions. I'm very interested in specific health effects that you may perceive. I'm still trying to understand why this practically the only food my husband seems able to tolerate. I agree that it's delicious. Have never been a milk drinker, but I really like this stuff. My husband and I almost got into a fistfight over the last glassful yesterday. :-) Too bad supply/distribution are limited. I can't imagine what we'll do when we move out of California and no longer a local distributor. ~ Cara > > > I recommend finding the underground local sources of raw organic milk. > > Yes, my brother runs Organic Pastures and I am still recommending > > everyone to find local sources. > > In our local news yesterday there was a big story about some > local children getting e-coli from a local source of raw milk. > I think I'll stick to Organic Pastures, since they seem to have > excellent safety standards. > > BTW, my raw milk arrived in the mail yesterday, and I tried a > little (the frozen container was thawing). My first impression > is that this was doing *very* good things for my health, and also > that it was quite tasty (like drinking melted vanilla ice cream). > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Hi, I am pretty lucky (?) after i wished someone would just bring me raw milk, a couple decided to bring it around with their car(??!!!). They are here every morning. usually buy the two liter bottle. Not always drink it, sometimes it goes to the the dogs. Ever so often i do use it (will be a couple of days in a row i wanna have it, fat replacement??) and I like the taste as well, never was one for milk normally. Also here there is a lot of raw cheese for sale (comes in the car as well or in any store). Eat mostly cheese, also pastuerised, with cloves, with cumin, with fine herbs, or pesto, with fennegreek. good stuff (probably a mayor supplement source). We pay $1.50 for two liters, and gold for imported cheeses.. Love and Light Marc <marc@...> wrote: > I recommend finding the underground local sources of raw organic milk. > Yes, my brother runs Organic Pastures and I am still recommending > everyone to find local sources. In our local news yesterday there was a big story about some local children getting e-coli from a local source of raw milk. I think I'll stick to Organic Pastures, since they seem to have excellent safety standards. BTW, my raw milk arrived in the mail yesterday, and I tried a little (the frozen container was thawing). My first impression is that this was doing *very* good things for my health, and also that it was quite tasty (like drinking melted vanilla ice cream). Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 > Marc, please keep us posted on your impressions. I'm very interested in > specific health effects that you may perceive. My first impression was that it acted like a probiotic, in that I felt some churning going on in my gut (same reaction I've had in the past to strong probiotics). Also I felt some immune-boosting aspect to it, as I've been battling a virus for a while and I felt improved energy and unclogged ears after drinking the milk. Of course, only time will tell if I continue to perceive any benefits. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 Hi, Oh the milk i get is warm (sun, cow or car??) and goes off the same day, does not make it in the fridge overnight even.. The white cheese is easily made with some drops of rennet (cuajo) overnight (also with lemon, or vinegar) here we buy it at the vet, that rennet.. unclogged ears sounds good!! love Marc <marc@...> wrote: > I recommend finding the underground local sources of raw organic milk. > Yes, my brother runs Organic Pastures and I am still recommending > everyone to find local sources. In our local news yesterday there was a big story about some local children getting e-coli from a local source of raw milk. I think I'll stick to Organic Pastures, since they seem to have excellent safety standards. BTW, my raw milk arrived in the mail yesterday, and I tried a little (the frozen container was thawing). My first impression is that this was doing *very* good things for my health, and also that it was quite tasty (like drinking melted vanilla ice cream). Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 It does do that. All those good enzymes, and the colostrum (immune booster). Depending on the stage of milking the cow/s are in, they make more or less. In spring, or whenever they've been bred to start, they make another immune booster, just tried to find it in the book I thought it was in... can't recall the name, but what's new? That isn't present the rest of the time. When I get that, I just can't get enough of it, and I don't do well with other milk products anyway, even the organic that's pasteurized/homogonized, although I use some yogurt. Not sure if I mentioned before, for people that can't buy raw milk in the stores, a " Cow share program " might be findable. That's what we did here. You pay a small amount for your share of the cow, a couple dollars for the gallon jars, a couple a gallon for the milk, to cover feed and maintenance costs. Besides that, you get to see just where the milk is coming from and the conditions, cleanliness, etc. I doubt one would turn down any offers of extra help either. The milk supply isn't always stable, as the cows produce less at certain times, or occasionally one may be iffy as to quality, and their milk held back, but it works. ~ Snoshoe > > > Marc, please keep us posted on your impressions. I'm very interested in > > specific health effects that you may perceive. > > My first impression was that it acted like a probiotic, in that > I felt some churning going on in my gut (same reaction I've had > in the past to strong probiotics). Also I felt some immune-boosting > aspect to it, as I've been battling a virus for a while and > I felt improved energy and unclogged ears after drinking the > milk. > > Of course, only time will tell if I continue to perceive any > benefits. > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 Just found this link about colostrum benefits, fresh, like always, being best. http://antiaging-usa.com/6_faq2.htm#adult > > > Marc, please keep us posted on your impressions. I'm very interested in > > specific health effects that you may perceive. > > My first impression was that it acted like a probiotic, in that > I felt some churning going on in my gut (same reaction I've had > in the past to strong probiotics). Also I felt some immune-boosting > aspect to it, as I've been battling a virus for a while and > I felt improved energy and unclogged ears after drinking the > milk. > > Of course, only time will tell if I continue to perceive any > benefits. > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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