Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 04:24:25 -0700 (PDT), selina sayong <selina_rareearthvcno@...> wrote: > What was the name of the co. im curios at the price > and its centrifuge? what assurance did they give that > its centrifuged. Coz i know how expensive it is . did > you look at rare earth booth coz theres a picture of > the centrifgued plant in the brochure. I don't think I passed by that booth. I remember " Quezon's Best " , " Pure and Clear " from , the same people who supply Hershey's with grated coconut, " Oil of Life " , " Nature's Gift " and " The Farm at San Benito " . The 1 liter bottle I bought was from Tropicana Food Products in San Pablo City, Laguna. The same company makes the Coconut King brand coconut powder (i.e. " instant gata " ) and macraroons. No frills packaging - The plastic bottle is similar to the container used for cooking oil. None of the fancy shmancy bottles used by the " boutique labels " like San Benito. However the oil seems to be of really good quality, very clear, good taste and acceptable aroma. At 170 pesos for a 1 liter bottle, it has finally broken the price barrier of being cheaper than olive oil (previously VCNO was more expensive than even Italian olive oil). I look forward to seeing this being distributed in supermarkets. There will always be a market for the expensive oils I guess, as there is for fancy olive oil. But Tropicana's looks like a brand we can use for everyday cooking. I hope other affordable brands will follow. I took some photos of the bottle and uploaded it to a temporary " cocoblog " gallery in Pbase.com. You can read the labels. The URL is: http://www.pbase.com/cocoblog/natures_gift I also transferred the other coconut exhibit photos (since Photos.ph is sometimes inaccessble) to: http://www.pbase.com/cocoblog/thecocofair - jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 10:37:46 -0700, P & M Banagale <pbanagal@...> wrote: > Did they say they are centrifuged? They are known -- here in San Pablo -- to produce expeller pressed coconut oil. It is a by product of their cocopowder. , I just looked at the label again (see http://www.pbase.com/image/33325973) It does say it is " cold pressed from fresh coconuts with chemicals " - so I guess this does refer to being expeller pressed. No it doesn't say anything about a centrifuge process, and no I didn't hang around the booth long enough to get any technical brochures -) This the booth that had that coconut oil fountain going. So I stand corrected - although if my understanding of the process is correct, once the oil is pressed from the meat, there's that extra step of removing moisture which is what the centrifuge process is supposed to achieve... they must have some process as well. Any guess what this could be? But if the proof of the pudding is in the eating, it seems to be a good quality oil, better than the " Prosource " brand sold atr Mercury drug stores. But that's all my opinion :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Did they say they are centrifuged? They are known -- here in San Pablo -- to produce expeller pressed coconut oil. It is a by product of their cocopowder. More coconut oil photos On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 04:24:25 -0700 (PDT), selina sayong <selina_rareearthvcno@...> wrote: > What was the name of the co. im curios at the price > and its centrifuge? what assurance did they give that > its centrifuged. Coz i know how expensive it is . did > you look at rare earth booth coz theres a picture of > the centrifgued plant in the brochure. I don't think I passed by that booth. I remember " Quezon's Best " , " Pure and Clear " from , the same people who supply Hershey's with grated coconut, " Oil of Life " , " Nature's Gift " and " The Farm at San Benito " . The 1 liter bottle I bought was from Tropicana Food Products in San Pablo City, Laguna. The same company makes the Coconut King brand coconut powder (i.e. " instant gata " ) and macraroons. No frills packaging - The plastic bottle is similar to the container used for cooking oil. None of the fancy shmancy bottles used by the " boutique labels " like San Benito. However the oil seems to be of really good quality, very clear, good taste and acceptable aroma. At 170 pesos for a 1 liter bottle, it has finally broken the price barrier of being cheaper than olive oil (previously VCNO was more expensive than even Italian olive oil). I look forward to seeing this being distributed in supermarkets. There will always be a market for the expensive oils I guess, as there is for fancy olive oil. But Tropicana's looks like a brand we can use for everyday cooking. I hope other affordable brands will follow. I took some photos of the bottle and uploaded it to a temporary " cocoblog " gallery in Pbase.com. You can read the labels. The URL is: http://www.pbase.com/cocoblog/natures_gift I also transferred the other coconut exhibit photos (since Photos.ph is sometimes inaccessble) to: http://www.pbase.com/cocoblog/thecocofair - jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Jim Expeller pressed oil undergoes very high heat, and that removes moisture. But the vit e is diminished, though the lauric acid is unchanged. Why should we worry if the heat does not change the quality and quantity of the lauric acid; it is what we are all after anyhow. But to take oil treated with chemical is another story. Could it be hexane? Has anyone seen any report on hexane being toxic/cancerous to humans? You know a cousin of mine came with me and I told her to purchase from the San Benito Farm. At least I know that it is cold pressed without chemicals and no heat. It is also pretty clean. Those pictures you posted were really nice. To those who wonder on the whiteness of the oil, it has solidified in the airconditioned room :-) Some oils would not go solid out there while others turned white. Re: More coconut oil photos , I just looked at the label again (see http://www.pbase.com/image/33325973) It does say it is " cold pressed from fresh coconuts with chemicals " - so I guess this does refer to being expeller pressed. No it doesn't say anything about a centrifuge process, and no I didn't hang around the booth long enough to get any technical brochures -) This the booth that had that coconut oil fountain going. So I stand corrected - although if my understanding of the process is correct, once the oil is pressed from the meat, there's that extra step of removing moisture which is what the centrifuge process is supposed to achieve... they must have some process as well. Any guess what this could be? But if the proof of the pudding is in the eating, it seems to be a good quality oil, better than the " Prosource " brand sold atr Mercury drug stores. But that's all my opinion :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 I agree with you melly. Thanks Selina --- P & M Banagale <pbanagal@...> wrote: > Did they say they are centrifuged? They are known > -- here in San Pablo -- to produce expeller pressed > coconut oil. It is a by product of their > cocopowder. > > > More coconut oil > photos > > > On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 04:24:25 -0700 (PDT), selina > sayong > <selina_rareearthvcno@...> wrote: > > What was the name of the co. im curios at the > price > > and its centrifuge? what assurance did they give > that > > its centrifuged. Coz i know how expensive it is > . did > > you look at rare earth booth coz theres a > picture of > > the centrifgued plant in the brochure. > > I don't think I passed by that booth. I remember > " Quezon's Best " , > " Pure and Clear " from , the same people > who supply Hershey's > with grated coconut, " Oil of Life " , " Nature's > Gift " and " The Farm at > San Benito " . > > The 1 liter bottle I bought was from Tropicana > Food Products in San > Pablo City, Laguna. The same company makes the > Coconut King brand > coconut powder (i.e. " instant gata " ) and > macraroons. > > No frills packaging - The plastic bottle is > similar to the container > used for cooking oil. None of the fancy shmancy > bottles used by the > " boutique labels " like San Benito. However the oil > seems to be of > really good quality, very clear, good taste and > acceptable aroma. At > 170 pesos for a 1 liter bottle, it has finally > broken the price > barrier of being cheaper than olive oil > (previously VCNO was more > expensive than even Italian olive oil). I look > forward to seeing this > being distributed in supermarkets. > > There will always be a market for the expensive > oils I guess, as there > is for fancy olive oil. But Tropicana's looks like > a brand we can use > for everyday cooking. I hope other affordable > brands will follow. > > I took some photos of the bottle and uploaded it > to a temporary > " cocoblog " gallery in Pbase.com. You can read the > labels. > > The URL is: > > http://www.pbase.com/cocoblog/natures_gift > > I also transferred the other coconut exhibit > photos (since Photos.ph > is sometimes inaccessble) to: > > http://www.pbase.com/cocoblog/thecocofair > > - jim > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 You weren't able to go around? Rare Earth booth was the one behind San Benitos Selina --- Severino Magat <sev_magat@...> wrote: > Jim, Hello ! > > Very grateful four your immense effort to document > interesting features/exhibits at the 3rd National > Coconut Festival/2004 National COCOnut Week > conducted at the SM MEGAMall, Metro Manila. > Certainly, this will enhance the promotion of > coconut industry and education on fast emerging high > value products from coconut oil like the Virgin > coconut oil (VCNO). I checked the souvenir program > for the directory of exhibitors and found out there > are 18 exhibitors/sellers of VCNO ( 12 are producers > as well). > > Also, I'm sensing that another natural and organic > product, the coconut brown sugar from the coconut > sap (tapped from unopened coconut spathes containing > male and female flowerscould gain more and more > interest in coming months/years. I understand, it > was sold at 25 pesos per 200-grams packaging or > (100 pesos/kg). I was informed it sold fast ! As a > background, in the country, from our modest PCA > research (generating interesting findings) started > few years ago at Davao and Zamboanga, a small > coconut farmers' beneficiary of improved planting > material and technical assistance support from the > government and now a multipurpose cooperative at > Linabu, Balingasag, Misamis Oriental started to > commercialize it a year ago. I heard a marketer from > Calamba, Laguna selling VCNO has placed an order for > coconut sugar. By the way, have used coconut sugar > in your hot coffee? I like it very much! But the > problem its availability in stores, hence with this > development from a small beginning from > far Northern Mindanao, I'm hoping that a demand for > it would develop which serves as the incentive for > coconut sugar producers like that happened with the > VCNO. Yes, I fully agree, the affordable price of > natural and organic products from coconut is very > important to sustain the demand of consumers, > locally and globally. > > For more info on this you may email our PCA > Regional Manager, Mr Cruz at email contact: > pca10@.... > > Thanks, and have a nice day! > > Sev Magat > > Jim Ayson <jazzbo@...> wrote: > On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 04:24:25 -0700 (PDT), selina > sayong > <selina_rareearthvcno@...> wrote: > > What was the name of the co. im curios at the > price > > and its centrifuge? what assurance did they give > that > > its centrifuged. Coz i know how expensive it is . > did > > you look at rare earth booth coz theres a picture > of > > the centrifgued plant in the brochure. > > I don't think I passed by that booth. I remember > " Quezon's Best " , > " Pure and Clear " from , the same people > who supply Hershey's > with grated coconut, " Oil of Life " , " Nature's Gift " > and " The Farm at > San Benito " . > > The 1 liter bottle I bought was from Tropicana Food > Products in San > Pablo City, Laguna. The same company makes the > Coconut King brand > coconut powder (i.e. " instant gata " ) and macraroons. > > No frills packaging - The plastic bottle is similar > to the container > used for cooking oil. None of the fancy shmancy > bottles used by the > " boutique labels " like San Benito. However the oil > seems to be of > really good quality, very clear, good taste and > acceptable aroma. At > 170 pesos for a 1 liter bottle, it has finally > broken the price > barrier of being cheaper than olive oil (previously > VCNO was more > expensive than even Italian olive oil). I look > forward to seeing this > being distributed in supermarkets. > > There will always be a market for the expensive oils > I guess, as there > is for fancy olive oil. But Tropicana's looks like a > brand we can use > for everyday cooking. I hope other affordable brands > will follow. > > I took some photos of the bottle and uploaded it to > a temporary > " cocoblog " gallery in Pbase.com. You can read the > labels. > > The URL is: > > http://www.pbase.com/cocoblog/natures_gift > > I also transferred the other coconut exhibit photos > (since Photos.ph > is sometimes inaccessble) to: > > http://www.pbase.com/cocoblog/thecocofair > > - jim > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 > You weren't able to go around? Rare Earth booth was > the one behind San Benitos Unfortunately not, Selina - My girlfriend and I were at Megamall to take a look at the SOHO exhibit in the next hall (we have a small software development company) and stumbled on the Coconut fair entirely by accident. By the time that happened, it was just an hour before closing so we whizzed by it pretty fast and I didn't go through the entire hall - I certainly didn't notice your booth :-) I must say the little I made enough of an impression on me to want to put up the photos on the Internet and post my thoughts - apart from the couple of bottles of oil we bought, it did strike me that virgin coconut oil awareness was no longer the province of VCNO geeks who encounter it on the Internet but it was already swimming itself slowly upstream. - jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 22:16:27 -0700, P & M Banagale <pbanagal@...> wrote: > Jim > > Expeller pressed oil undergoes very high heat, and that removes moisture. But the vit e is diminished, though the lauric acid is unchanged. If that's the precise definition , then Tropicana's " Nature's Gift " virgin coconut oil isn't expeller pressed because the label says the oil is " cold pressed " and prepared without chemicals. Unless they're guilty of misrepresentation that is. see http://www.pbase.com/image/33325973 - jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 > difference. Haven't you tried also the oil at the > booth of Pro source to compare what you tried in the > booth where the fountain was. > Indeed, its vco if it solidifies. Selina, I buy Prosource regularly because it seems to have the widest commercial distribution - I see it at Mercury Drug stores and just today I was at a Shopwise supermarket and I saw a cluster of Prosource virgin coconut oil bottles on a shelf in the oil aisle right next to the olive oil section. Which I thought was a nice surprise. I hope other brands should start selling in mainstream retail outlets like supermarkets soon. I don't think we should hunt for them at some out of the way health food store. At any rate, I'm particularly curious at your suspicions of Nature's Gift but will chalk it up as a sign of healthy competition and the possibility that the company is not apparently part of your association. :-) But if " solidifying " is apparently the " proof " and the cruz of the biscuit then the photo here should give us a clue: http://www.pbase.com/image/33313520 This shows most of the brands of VCNO in the fair turn into a solid probably due to the fact that this spot was close to some air conditioning. There are a couple of bottles where the oil remains a liquid but the alleged " expeller pressed " oil is not one of them :-) I'll leave it up to you industry types to slug it out with claims and counter claims - as for me, I'm just a humble consumer looking for the best deal, and the more affordable and available these products get, the better for me :-) - jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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