Re: Diagnosed with neuropathy

[Guest guest]

Dear Sue,

Greetings from the Philippines !

I could feel that you're your confused because you apparently don't have

access to adequate and right information and facts about dietary fats and oils,

as well as the coconut oil and other sources of plant and animal fats, as these

influence our body and general health. Yes, it has come to my attention that

most of our doctors are not updated with preventive medicine, particularly, the

nutrition aspects. This is indeed very sad for us as we rely much from our

doctors to provide the right diagnosis and curative measures ! And also beware,

nowadays and globally, there many peddlers of pseudo-science. Hence, we should

know the truth about fats and oils in food we take in recent years. Many

medical doctors still use outdated medical books with serious of technical

mistakes or wrong conclusions. A good example is the generalization started by

the western world that all saturated fats (plant or animal origins) are bad for

us and must be avoided, in contrast, that

unsaturated fats (monosaturated and polyunsaturated fats) are the good ones for

us. Advances in science and knowledge has now provided us with the truth, and

for this, thanks to our vigilant doctors, medical scientists, nutritionists and

biochemists in the developed and developing countries who are have uncovered

many facts and started to correct the errors committed in the past.

Anyhow, may I strongly suggest that you read the booklet (38 pages) " Facts

and Fallacies about Coconut OIl " authored by P.K. Thampan. In this regard, you

may contact thru email the Asian and Pacific Coconut Community

(apcc@...) and/or the author (pkthampan@...) as also indicated in

the cc of this email.

Well, with the more facts and right information, I believe you will be

empowered to decide on the best option concerning your current situation. All

the best.

Cheers,

Sev Magat

Sue <bobnsueallison@...> wrote:

My Neurologist just told me that I have Idiopathic Neuropathy. She

said my colesteral is too high. It is 210. She said I have to lose

weight and gave me a low fat diet. I weigh 172. I know I have to lose

weight but I don't believe a low fat diet is good for you after reading

Dr. Fife's books. My husband asked her about coconut oil and she said

no it is a fat--only use olive oil. I told my husband I don't agree

with her. I'm thinking about getting another opinion. I really didn't

like her curt attitude. I'm not sure who I should go to though. I

can't work--this neuropathy is getting pretty bad. I'm afraid it will

get worse though if I follow her advise. I'm not sure what to do. Any

ideas? By the way I only have been using coconut oil for a few weeks.

Thanks, Sue

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sue,

Greetings from the Philippines !

I could feel that you're your confused because you apparently don't have

access to adequate and right information and facts about dietary fats and oils,

as well as the coconut oil and other sources of plant and animal fats, as these

influence our body and general health. Yes, it has come to my attention that

most of our doctors are not updated with preventive medicine, particularly, the

nutrition aspects. This is indeed very sad for us as we rely much from our

doctors to provide the right diagnosis and curative measures ! And also beware,

nowadays and globally, there many peddlers of pseudo-science. Hence, we should

know the truth about fats and oils in food we take in recent years. Many

medical doctors still use outdated medical books with serious of technical

mistakes or wrong conclusions. A good example is the generalization started by

the western world that all saturated fats (plant or animal origins) are bad for

us and must be avoided, in contrast, that

unsaturated fats (monosaturated and polyunsaturated fats) are the good ones for

us. Advances in science and knowledge has now provided us with the truth, and

for this, thanks to our vigilant doctors, medical scientists, nutritionists and

biochemists in the developed and developing countries who are have uncovered

many facts and started to correct the errors committed in the past.

Anyhow, may I strongly suggest that you read the booklet (38 pages) " Facts

and Fallacies about Coconut OIl " authored by P.K. Thampan. In this regard, you

may contact thru email the Asian and Pacific Coconut Community

(apcc@...) and/or the author (pkthampan@...) as also indicated in

the cc of this email.

Well, with the more facts and right information, I believe you will be

empowered to decide on the best option concerning your current situation. All

the best.

Cheers,

Sev Magat

Sue <bobnsueallison@...> wrote:

My Neurologist just told me that I have Idiopathic Neuropathy. She

said my colesteral is too high. It is 210. She said I have to lose

weight and gave me a low fat diet. I weigh 172. I know I have to lose

weight but I don't believe a low fat diet is good for you after reading

Dr. Fife's books. My husband asked her about coconut oil and she said

no it is a fat--only use olive oil. I told my husband I don't agree

with her. I'm thinking about getting another opinion. I really didn't

like her curt attitude. I'm not sure who I should go to though. I

can't work--this neuropathy is getting pretty bad. I'm afraid it will

get worse though if I follow her advise. I'm not sure what to do. Any

ideas? By the way I only have been using coconut oil for a few weeks.

Thanks, Sue

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[Guest guest]

Low fat diet and the one that uses any vegetable oils except the coconut oil

will only damage your health. If there is only one book that you will want to

read make it " Eat Fat, Lose Fat " by Enig PhD. who studied fats for 30+

years and knows her fats. If you follow her instruction, you will lose weight

and gain health at the same time. Your cholesterol is not too high, but it is

perfect for you. Cholesterol drugs are only good to make money for

pharmaceutical companies. The whole cholesterol campaign if a fraud. Please

read this .

http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm

I'm sorry I know nothing about neuropathy but hopefully it will be helped by

getting yourself healthy overall. Even if not you will feel better so it will

be worth it.

Barbara

Sue <bobnsueallison@...> wrote:

My Neurologist just told me that I have Idiopathic Neuropathy. She

said my colesteral is too high. It is 210. She said I have to lose weight and

gave me a low fat diet. I weigh 172. I know I have to lose weight but I don't

believe a low fat diet is good for you after reading Dr. Fife's books. My

husband asked her about coconut oil and she said no it is a fat--only use olive

oil. I told my husband I don't agree with her. I'm thinking about getting

another opinion. I really didn't like her curt attitude. I'm not sure who I

should go to though. I can't work--this neuropathy is getting pretty bad. I'm

afraid it will get worse though if I follow her advise. I'm not sure what to do.

Any ideas? By the way I only have been using coconut oil for a few weeks.

Thanks, Sue

[Guest guest]

Hi.....Janet here.

Sue, I put Idiopathic Neuropathy in my Google Search box, there are,

as usual many sites. I copied this as a starting point for my reply

to your query. " Idiopathic Neuropathy is a disorder that affects the

peripheral nerves and has no identifiable primary cause. "

That's a doctor's way of saying, I don't know what to do, here, take

a pain pill. You did not say what your specific symptoms are. I

have neuropathy and I have diabetes. The burning/stinging pain in my

legs and feet, sometimes in my hands, was terrible, but I refused

another Rx from my doctor for it. I tried many topical things on the

market for such pain...got only very temporary relief. I had to get

up at night and walk the floor to get circulation to my feet. In

desperation one day, I typed into Google Search: burning/stinging

feet. Many sites came up, but I was drawn to one on the side. It

was a homeopathic formula, Artalgia. I bought one bottle, very low-

priced, free shipping, and after using it one day my legs and feet

stopped burning. Only 10 drops of the formula under the tongue 3 or

4 x daily has done it for me. That was several months ago and it's

still working.

As for the VCO, I take that also. 3 or 4 Tbs. daily. And I use it

for cooking. I also use olive oil. I too need to lose weight, but I

have the bad habit of sitting at this computer rather than going for

a long walk or doing some form of exercise. I have had more energy

since I started the VCO. I'm on synthroid for my low thyroid, I'm

anxious to see my next test results will be since VCO is supposed to

help the thyroid.

Hope this helps. ~~~~~~~~Janet

>

> My Neurologist just told me that I have Idiopathic

Neuropathy. She said my colesteral is too high. It is 210. She said I

have to lose weight and gave me a low fat diet. I weigh 172. I know I

have to lose weight but I don't believe a low fat diet is good for

you after reading Dr. Fife's books. My husband asked her about

coconut oil and she said no it is a fat--only use olive oil. I told

my husband I don't agree with her. I'm thinking about getting another

opinion. I really didn't like her curt attitude. I'm not sure who I

should go to though. I can't work--this neuropathy is getting pretty

bad. I'm afraid it will get worse though if I follow her advise. I'm

not sure what to do. Any ideas? By the way I only have been using

coconut oil for a few weeks.

> Thanks, Sue

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Janet,

Could you tell us where you bought it? I'd like to order some.

Thanks,

Dianne

twnsnd_jnt wrote:

> Hi.....Janet here.

> . It

> was a homeopathic formula, Artalgia. I bought one bottle, very low-

> priced, free shipping, and after using it one day my legs and feet

> stopped burning.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Janet. Thanks. I have more aching pain in various parts of my

body. Stiffness too. It started out with tingling in my

hands/arms/feet/legs then it turned to mostly aching, stiffness and

I am getting weaker. Now I have a limp in my left leg. I don't

know if I believe anything this doctor says. I think the coconut

oil is helping me and I am not going to quit using it. All I really

want from her is a correct diagnosis. They won't even let me have

copies of my medical records. The girl said no when I asked and

said to call a week before my next appointment (in a month) and they

would let me have them then. For $25. Anyway, I will try the

Artalgia

> >

> > My Neurologist just told me that I have Idiopathic

> Neuropathy. She said my colesteral is too high. It is 210. She

said I

> have to lose weight and gave me a low fat diet. I weigh 172. I

know I

> have to lose weight but I don't believe a low fat diet is good for

> you after reading Dr. Fife's books. My husband asked her about

> coconut oil and she said no it is a fat--only use olive oil. I

told

> my husband I don't agree with her. I'm thinking about getting

another

> opinion. I really didn't like her curt attitude. I'm not sure who

I

> should go to though. I can't work--this neuropathy is getting

pretty

> bad. I'm afraid it will get worse though if I follow her advise.

I'm

> not sure what to do. Any ideas? By the way I only have been using

> coconut oil for a few weeks.

> > Thanks, Sue

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

~~~~~~~~~~

Hi, Janet here -- I get the Artalgia from: Todd Horton DPM, Artalgia, Burning

Feet, 3304 Brigadoon Drive, Clearwater, FL 33759; $17.00 prepaid, personal

U.S.check OK or go to:

www.burningneuropathy.com The first listing there took me to his ad page

which tells about the product, ingredients, etc. At the top is a bar for going

to different areas of his site, there's one there for 'Orders'. If you have any

problems, let me know. I downloaded his site page to my mail - I will forward

it to you if need be. I put the info here in case anyone else needs it.

~~~~~~~~~

stargazer <stargazer00@...> wrote:

Hi Janet,

Could you tell us where you bought it? I'd like to order some.

Thanks,

Dianne

twnsnd_jnt wrote:

> Hi.....Janet here.

> . It

> was a homeopathic formula, Artalgia. I bought one bottle, very low-

> priced, free shipping, and after using it one day my legs and feet

> stopped burning.

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sue - Janet here. The symptoms you describe sound like something

other than or in addition to peripheral neuropathy. Proper diagnosis

is the first and most important step to any start in the

healing/treatment program. I don't understand your doctor not giving

you a copy of your test results. BEFORE I leave the doctor, when she

tells me about my test results, I say: I need a copy of these test

results for my file. She later tells the nurse to give make a copy

for me or I tell the nurse the doctor said I could have a copy. It's

only a Xerox page or several, that should not cost $25.00. Some

nurses act like they run the World. (Sorry nurses who don't fall into

that catagory) You may need another diagnosis. If you go to another

doctor, he/she should be able to get copies of your prior tests. It

could be you need tests beyond the ones you have already had.

I recently had stiffness and pain in my knees. I restarted taking MSM

(Methylsulfonylmethane),a diatary supplement,and in two days my knees

were OK. Still a little tender, but better.

Keep 'fishing'-- searching Google. Type in your symptoms and study

what comes up. In my case, I ask God for His perfect guidance before

hand and that helps me choose the site best suited for my personal

needs.

Symptoms are a good doctor's map to your personal problems.

Diagnostic tests indicate the problem sites. Reading your own test

results will seem like 'Greek' at first, but the test copies I get

show the range that is 'best' for each particular segment of the

test. If you have one that indicates out of the norm, go to Google

and research that. There are many medical sites to help in that

respect.

Good luck and good health. ~~~~~~~~~Janet

>

> Hi Janet. Thanks. I have more aching pain in various parts of my

> body. Stiffness too. It started out with tingling in my

> hands/arms/feet/legs then it turned to mostly aching, stiffness and

> I am getting weaker. Now I have a limp in my left leg. I don't

> know if I believe anything this doctor says. I think the coconut

> oil is helping me and I am not going to quit using it. All I really

> want from her is a correct diagnosis. They won't even let me have

> copies of my medical records. The girl said no when I asked and

> said to call a week before my next appointment (in a month) and they

> would let me have them then. For $25. Anyway, I will try the

> Artalgia

[Guest guest]

Thank you. I'm sure I can find it. I just like to order from " known "

places.

Off to order some for my dh.

Dianne

Janet Townsend wrote:

> ~~~~~~~~~~

> Hi, Janet here -- I get the Artalgia from: Todd Horton DPM, Artalgia,

Burning Feet, 3304 Brigadoon Drive, Clearwater, FL 33759; $17.00 prepaid,

personal U.S.check OK or go to:

> www.burningneuropathy.com The first listing there took me to his ad page

which tells about the product, ingredients, etc. At the top is a bar for going

to different areas of his site, there's one there for 'Orders'. If you have any

problems, let me know. I downloaded his site page to my mail - I will forward

it to you if need be. I put the info here in case anyone else needs it.

> ~~~~~~~~~

>

> stargazer <stargazer00@...> wrote:

> Hi Janet,

>

> Could you tell us where you bought it? I'd like to order some.

>

> Thanks,

> Dianne

>

> twnsnd_jnt wrote:

>

>> Hi.....Janet here.

>> . It

>> was a homeopathic formula, Artalgia. I bought one bottle, very low-

>> priced, free shipping, and after using it one day my legs and feet

>> stopped burning.

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Janet. The thing I'm worried about is ALS. I do feel better

today. I don't know if it is all the coconut oil or the medication

she gave me. I'm not very happy with her, but my husband thinks she

is great. He doesn't want me to use the coconut oil. He is very

stubborn and thinks he knows everything. He doesn't--he doesn't

read the books. He just condemns it because he says so. So I'm

just going to let him eat what he wants. If he doesn't care about

his health, then fine. Coconut oil is really helping my skin and it

tastes delicious. I hope it will help me lose weight too. I think

I am going to have to go on the coconut diet though.

Sue

> >

> > Hi Janet. Thanks. I have more aching pain in various parts of

my

> > body. Stiffness too. It started out with tingling in my

> > hands/arms/feet/legs then it turned to mostly aching, stiffness

and

> > I am getting weaker. Now I have a limp in my left leg. I don't

> > know if I believe anything this doctor says. I think the

coconut

> > oil is helping me and I am not going to quit using it. All I

really

> > want from her is a correct diagnosis. They won't even let me

have

> > copies of my medical records. The girl said no when I asked and

> > said to call a week before my next appointment (in a month) and

they

> > would let me have them then. For $25. Anyway, I will try the

> > Artalgia

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

I have neuropathy - probably from several causes. I was malnourished

as a child and developed neuropathy, but recovered fully when well

fed. Then when I was 32 I almost died from a gas leak, and that

seriously damaged my nerves, but over the course of about 1 1/2 years

I again recovered (almost totally). Then over the years I took

various meds which I found out a long time later that they could

cause neuropathy. The damage was very slow so I did not notice, but

was having gradually increasing problems. The final blow was from

taking Lipitor. I had sudden severe damage to my nerves and muscles,

and though I have gotton somewhat better I never recovered. I

developed system wide neuropathy from Lipitor - not just

peripherally. Now I will not take any medication without seeing if

possible neuopathy is in the list of side effects. If is is - no

matter how low the doctor says the risk is - I do not take the risk,

because I cannot afford any more nerve damage or I could die (as my

organs already are affected from this). You would really be surprized

at the number of medications that " can " cause neuropathy.

Many other things can cause or aggravate neuropathy too. Elevated

blood sugar is a number one cause of neuropathy. A lack of sufficient

nutrients can also cause neuropathy, especially a lack of B-12, or an

inability to absorb it, or taking folic acid if you are not absorbing

B-12 (because then you accentuate the B-12 shortage). There are other

nutrient short-falls that will cause of aggravate neuropathy, but I

cannot remember them off the top of my head. You could google and

find out.

But, and this is important, a low fat diet is really NOT good for

your nerves! A low fat diet can really aggravate neuropathy. A low

fat diet also increases the number of strokes, and also increases the

incidence of Alzheimers disease. Your nerves and brain needs fat to

function well.

Amber

===============

>

> My Neurologist just told me that I have Idiopathic Neuropathy. She

> said my colesteral is too high. It is 210. She said I have to

lose

> weight and gave me a low fat diet. I weigh 172. I know I have to

lose

> weight but I don't believe a low fat diet is good for you after

reading

> Dr. Fife's books. My husband asked her about coconut oil and she

said

> no it is a fat--only use olive oil. I told my husband I don't

agree

> with her. I'm thinking about getting another opinion. I really

didn't

> like her curt attitude. I'm not sure who I should go to though. I

> can't work--this neuropathy is getting pretty bad. I'm afraid it

will

> get worse though if I follow her advise. I'm not sure what to do.

Any

> ideas? By the way I only have been using coconut oil for a few

weeks.

> Thanks, Sue

>

[Guest guest]

" But, and this is important, a low fat diet is really NOT good for

your nerves! A low fat diet can really aggravate neuropathy. A low

fat diet also increases the number of strokes, and also increases the

incidence of Alzheimers disease. Your nerves and brain needs fat to

function well. "

Amber

Exactly!!! Its amazing to me how few people actually understand this.

Many of our ancestors DIED because they couldn't find enough FAT.

Fat and Salt are both absolutely necessary for our survival, yet in this

century we

have been told many lies and now folks are even sicker than they were before

and still don't have a clue as to why.

zoe

[Guest guest]

Please look up ALS and Lyme Disease. Lyme is becoming a world wide epidemic and

mimics or IS many other diseases. Coinfections also play a role. It would be

important for you to see a doctor who specializeds in tickborne infections.

However, many are finding that one doesn't even have to be bitten by a tick to

get this. It possibly can be transmitted through the blood supply, sex, breast

milk, through the placenta....The lyme germ has even been found in tears.Look up

Lyme Disease symptoms until you find a very long list. The list of symptoms put

out by the mainstream medical sites are very small lists and restictive. I was

told I had CFS for 8 years. I had burning pain in my legs, pain in my feet,

tingling and tripping. It was awful. All that has gone away with antibiotic

treatment

Margie

Sue <bobnsueallison@...> wrote:

Thanks Janet. The thing I'm worried about is ALS. I do feel better

today. I don't know if it is all the coconut oil or the medication

she gave me. I'm not very happy with her, but my husband thinks she

is great. He doesn't want me to use the coconut oil. He is very

stubborn and thinks he knows everything. He doesn't--he doesn't

read the books. He just condemns it because he says so. So I'm

just going to let him eat what he wants. If he doesn't care about

his health, then fine. Coconut oil is really helping my skin and it

tastes delicious. I hope it will help me lose weight too. I think

I am going to have to go on the coconut diet though.

Sue

> >

> > Hi Janet. Thanks. I have more aching pain in various parts of

my

> > body. Stiffness too. It started out with tingling in my

> > hands/arms/feet/legs then it turned to mostly aching, stiffness

and

> > I am getting weaker. Now I have a limp in my left leg. I don't

> > know if I believe anything this doctor says. I think the

coconut

> > oil is helping me and I am not going to quit using it. All I

really

> > want from her is a correct diagnosis. They won't even let me

have

> > copies of my medical records. The girl said no when I asked and

> > said to call a week before my next appointment (in a month) and

they

> > would let me have them then. For $25. Anyway, I will try the

> > Artalgia

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sue, I am glad you feel better today. I am curious as to what is the coconut

diet? thanks for any information. Pat

Sue <bobnsueallison@...> wrote: Thanks Janet. The thing I'm

worried about is ALS. I do feel better

today. I don't know if it is all the coconut oil or the medication

she gave me. I'm not very happy with her, but my husband thinks she

is great. He doesn't want me to use the coconut oil. He is very

stubborn and thinks he knows everything. He doesn't--he doesn't

read the books. He just condemns it because he says so. So I'm

just going to let him eat what he wants. If he doesn't care about

his health, then fine. Coconut oil is really helping my skin and it

tastes delicious. I hope it will help me lose weight too. I think

I am going to have to go on the coconut diet though.

Sue

> >

> > Hi Janet. Thanks. I have more aching pain in various parts of

my

> > body. Stiffness too. It started out with tingling in my

> > hands/arms/feet/legs then it turned to mostly aching, stiffness

and

> > I am getting weaker. Now I have a limp in my left leg. I don't

> > know if I believe anything this doctor says. I think the

coconut

> > oil is helping me and I am not going to quit using it. All I

really

> > want from her is a correct diagnosis. They won't even let me

have

> > copies of my medical records. The girl said no when I asked and

> > said to call a week before my next appointment (in a month) and

they

> > would let me have them then. For $25. Anyway, I will try the

> > Artalgia

>

Pat

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Hi Pat, The Coconut Diet is in the book EAT FAT LOOK THIN. I

haven't tried it yet. I'm trying right now to eat organic foods

that are healthy for you. I've just started using coconut oil for a

few weeks. I believe Dr. Fife more than I believe my neurologist.

I think I'm starting to get better because of the way I've been

eating for the last few weeks. The pain is almost gone and I'm only

limping when I get up from a chair. I get a little less stiff after

I walk for a while. Maybe I can start walking on the treadmill

again. I've been reading as many of Dr. Fife's books as I can. I

need to get some more of them though. Thanks, Sue

> > >

> > > Hi Janet. Thanks. I have more aching pain in various parts of

> my

> > > body. Stiffness too. It started out with tingling in my

> > > hands/arms/feet/legs then it turned to mostly aching,

stiffness

> and

> > > I am getting weaker. Now I have a limp in my left leg. I don't

> > > know if I believe anything this doctor says. I think the

> coconut

> > > oil is helping me and I am not going to quit using it. All I

> really

> > > want from her is a correct diagnosis. They won't even let me

> have

> > > copies of my medical records. The girl said no when I asked

and

> > > said to call a week before my next appointment (in a month)

and

> they

> > > would let me have them then. For $25. Anyway, I will try the

> > > Artalgia

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Pat

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Amber, Thanks for the information about Lipitor. I've taken it a

few times but I usually quit after a month or two. I get to

thinking it can't be very good for you if it can cause liver damage

and I quit. Doctors keep wanting me to take statins though, so over

the last few years I let them talk me into it. I didn't know they

could cause neuropathy though. Why did my neurologist say that if

this low fat diet she wants me to do didn't work then I would have

to take medication for cholesterol. She said my cholesterol should

be 150. I don't agree with any of that, but I just said okay

because I didn't want to argue with her. I'm going to do what I

think will actually help me. I don't like her at all but I needed

her to sign LOA papers. Since I'm getting better though maybe I

don't need her at all. Thanks, Sue

> >

> > My Neurologist just told me that I have Idiopathic Neuropathy.

She

> > said my colesteral is too high. It is 210. She said I have to

> lose

> > weight and gave me a low fat diet. I weigh 172. I know I have

to

> lose

> > weight but I don't believe a low fat diet is good for you after

> reading

> > Dr. Fife's books. My husband asked her about coconut oil and

she

> said

> > no it is a fat--only use olive oil. I told my husband I don't

> agree

> > with her. I'm thinking about getting another opinion. I really

> didn't

> > like her curt attitude. I'm not sure who I should go to

though. I

> > can't work--this neuropathy is getting pretty bad. I'm afraid

it

> will

> > get worse though if I follow her advise. I'm not sure what to

do.

> Any

> > ideas? By the way I only have been using coconut oil for a few

> weeks.

> > Thanks, Sue

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

No doctor should be forcing you to take any statins. Tell your doctor

that you need your cholesterol in order to function properly and that

if you take statins to lower your cholesterol, you will be harming

your body. She should be signing your LOA papers regardless of

whether you take statins.

phine

>

> Hi Amber, Thanks for the information about Lipitor. I've taken it

a

> few times but I usually quit after a month or two. I get to

> thinking it can't be very good for you if it can cause liver damage

> and I quit. Doctors keep wanting me to take statins though, so

over

> the last few years I let them talk me into it. I didn't know they

> could cause neuropathy though. Why did my neurologist say that if

> this low fat diet she wants me to do didn't work then I would have

> to take medication for cholesterol. She said my cholesterol should

> be 150. I don't agree with any of that, but I just said okay

> because I didn't want to argue with her. I'm going to do what I

> think will actually help me. I don't like her at all but I needed

> her to sign LOA papers. Since I'm getting better though maybe I

> don't need her at all. Thanks, Sue

[Guest guest]

My doctor asked me to take Satins -- my cholesterol is way

high. However, I have just read, thanks to someone on this

list -- and a wonderful web page -- that the higher your

cholesterol the longer you live. I also know that the cholesterol

and the sun - make vitamin D which you body can use to

make good bones -- I am worried about all the medicines

that are harming our bones.

where or where can I in Southwest Kentucky buy VCO?

I have been looking, and no one seems to be able to get

it.

thea

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From: " jlkinkona " <josephine@...>

Coconut Oil

Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 22:20:27 -0000

Subject: Re: Diagnosed with neuropathy

Message-ID: <fasubb+9ub3egroups>

Hi Sue,

No doctor should be forcing you to take any statins. Tell your doctor

that you need your cholesterol in order to function properly and that

if you take statins to lower your cholesterol, you will be harming

your body. She should be signing your LOA papers regardless of

whether you take statins.

phine

>

> Hi Amber, Thanks for the information about Lipitor. I've taken it

a

> few times but I usually quit after a month or two. I get to

> thinking it can't be very good for you if it can cause liver damage

> and I quit. Doctors keep wanting me to take statins though, so

over

> the last few years I let them talk me into it. I didn't know they

> could cause neuropathy though. Why did my neurologist say that if

> this low fat diet she wants me to do didn't work then I would have

> to take medication for cholesterol. She said my cholesterol should

> be 150. I don't agree with any of that, but I just said okay

> because I didn't want to argue with her. I'm going to do what I

> think will actually help me. I don't like her at all but I needed

> her to sign LOA papers. Since I'm getting better though maybe I

> don't need her at all. Thanks, Sue

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue, thank you for replying to me. i will get the book and my very best

wishes for your continued recovery from pain. Pat

Sue <bobnsueallison@...> wrote:

Hi Pat, The Coconut Diet is in the book EAT FAT LOOK THIN. I

haven't tried it yet. I'm trying right now to eat organic foods

that are healthy for you. I've just started using coconut oil for a

few weeks. I believe Dr. Fife more than I believe my neurologist.

I think I'm starting to get better because of the way I've been

eating for the last few weeks. The pain is almost gone and I'm only

limping when I get up from a chair. I get a little less stiff after

I walk for a while. Maybe I can start walking on the treadmill

again. I've been reading as many of Dr. Fife's books as I can. I

need to get some more of them though. Thanks, Sue

> > >

> > > Hi Janet. Thanks. I have more aching pain in various parts of

> my

> > > body. Stiffness too. It started out with tingling in my

> > > hands/arms/feet/legs then it turned to mostly aching,

stiffness

> and

> > > I am getting weaker. Now I have a limp in my left leg. I don't

> > > know if I believe anything this doctor says. I think the

> coconut

> > > oil is helping me and I am not going to quit using it. All I

> really

> > > want from her is a correct diagnosis. They won't even let me

> have

> > > copies of my medical records. The girl said no when I asked

and

> > > said to call a week before my next appointment (in a month)

and

> they

> > > would let me have them then. For $25. Anyway, I will try the

> > > Artalgia

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Pat

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Margie. Thanks. The neurologist said I don't have Lyme Disease.

I guess she could tell from the blood tests. Unless maybe it

doesn't always show up on blood tests? I guess I should check that

out. Thanks, Sue

> > >

> > > Hi Janet. Thanks. I have more aching pain in various parts of

> my

> > > body. Stiffness too. It started out with tingling in my

> > > hands/arms/feet/legs then it turned to mostly aching,

stiffness

> and

> > > I am getting weaker. Now I have a limp in my left leg. I don't

> > > know if I believe anything this doctor says. I think the

> coconut

> > > oil is helping me and I am not going to quit using it. All I

> really

> > > want from her is a correct diagnosis. They won't even let me

> have

> > > copies of my medical records. The girl said no when I asked

and

> > > said to call a week before my next appointment (in a month)

and

> they

> > > would let me have them then. For $25. Anyway, I will try the

> > > Artalgia

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I've been rereading Dr. Fife's books and I understand better now

about how to eat to be healthy. I'm going to have to make some

lists though because I forget things. I'm going to cut out as much

of the things that promote oxidized cholesterol as I can. That

means I am going to have to cook/bake a lot more things. Oh well,

it is very important to me now. I guess I still have the neuropathy

because some of my symptoms are back. I want to stop the

progression of this so I am trying to learn all I can about

nutrition. If my neurologist gives me a hard time about my diet,

I'll just fire her and get another one. Thanks, Sue

>

>

> " But, and this is important, a low fat diet is really NOT good for

> your nerves! A low fat diet can really aggravate neuropathy. A low

> fat diet also increases the number of strokes, and also increases

the

> incidence of Alzheimers disease. Your nerves and brain needs fat

to

> function well. "

>

> Amber

>

> Exactly!!! Its amazing to me how few people actually understand

this.

> Many of our ancestors DIED because they couldn't find enough FAT.

> Fat and Salt are both absolutely necessary for our survival, yet

in this century we

> have been told many lies and now folks are even sicker than they

were before

> and still don't have a clue as to why.

> zoe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Okay, I'll tell her that. I am definitely not going to take statins

again. I just don't understand her. You'd think she would know

that statins are bad for neuropathy. The last doctor I told about

why I didn't want to take statins told me that she would rather

forget things than to have a stroke or heart attack. Doctors

confuse me sometimes and I forget why I decided not to take a drug

in the first place. I'm going to have to find a Doctor that thinks

more in line with Dr. Fife. Thanks, Sue

> >

> > Hi Amber, Thanks for the information about Lipitor. I've taken

it

> a

> > few times but I usually quit after a month or two. I get to

> > thinking it can't be very good for you if it can cause liver

damage

> > and I quit. Doctors keep wanting me to take statins though, so

> over

> > the last few years I let them talk me into it. I didn't know

they

> > could cause neuropathy though. Why did my neurologist say that

if

> > this low fat diet she wants me to do didn't work then I would

have

> > to take medication for cholesterol. She said my cholesterol

should

> > be 150. I don't agree with any of that, but I just said okay

> > because I didn't want to argue with her. I'm going to do what I

> > think will actually help me. I don't like her at all but I

needed

> > her to sign LOA papers. Since I'm getting better though maybe I

> > don't need her at all. Thanks, Sue

>

[Guest guest]

I also wanted to add that a TC of 150 is a death sentence. Total

Cholesterol should never be lower than 180. Anything lower than that is

setting oneself up for a variety of adverse effects. Its amazing the

number of stupid doctors out there pushing statins and ignoring the

negative effects upon their patients. phine

>

> Okay, I'll tell her that. I am definitely not going to take statins

> again. I just don't understand her. You'd think she would know

> that statins are bad for neuropathy. The last doctor I told about

> why I didn't want to take statins told me that she would rather

> forget things than to have a stroke or heart attack. Doctors

> confuse me sometimes and I forget why I decided not to take a drug

> in the first place. I'm going to have to find a Doctor that thinks

> more in line with Dr. Fife. Thanks, Sue

>

[Guest guest]

Sue:

You're right. Lyme Disease doesn't always show up in tests but I believe there

is one very accurate test and I think it's called Western Blot or something like

that. We live in Canada and my son's Lyme Tests always came back negative until

the Doctor sent one to a special Lab in the US and it came back positive. So

better look into that.

Bonnie

Re: Diagnosed with neuropathy

Hi Margie. Thanks. The neurologist said I don't have Lyme Disease.

I guess she could tell from the blood tests. Unless maybe it

doesn't always show up on blood tests? I guess I should check that

out. Thanks, Sue

> > >

> > > Hi Janet. Thanks. I have more aching pain in various parts of

> my

> > > body. Stiffness too. It started out with tingling in my

> > > hands/arms/feet/legs then it turned to mostly aching,

stiffness

> and

> > > I am getting weaker. Now I have a limp in my left leg. I don't

> > > know if I believe anything this doctor says. I think the

> coconut

> > > oil is helping me and I am not going to quit using it. All I

> really

> > > want from her is a correct diagnosis. They won't even let me

> have

> > > copies of my medical records. The girl said no when I asked

and

> > > said to call a week before my next appointment (in a month)

and

> they

> > > would let me have them then. For $25. Anyway, I will try the

> > > Artalgia

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Alot of your symptoms sound like mine.

I was diagnosed with polymyalgia rheumatica

and fibromyalgia. There's an end to the

polymyalgia rheumatica... anywhere from six

months to two years but involves taking

prednisone (a steroid) which has opened the

door to osteoporosis and skin thinning but

my pain has subsided tremendously. Now I

need to get back off the sugar again. I got

depressed and I guess tried to but some

" sweetness " back into my life by going back

to bad eating habits...bad mistake. I paid

for the temporary sugar high with a huge

weight gain.

> > > >

> > > > Hi Janet. Thanks. I have more aching pain in various parts of

> > my

> > > > body. Stiffness too. It started out with tingling in my

> > > > hands/arms/feet/legs then it turned to mostly aching,

> stiffness

> > and

> > > > I am getting weaker. Now I have a limp in my left leg. I

don't

> > > > know if I believe anything this doctor says. I think the

> > coconut

> > > > oil is helping me and I am not going to quit using it. All I

> > really

> > > > want from her is a correct diagnosis. They won't even let me

> > have

> > > > copies of my medical records. The girl said no when I asked

> and

> > > > said to call a week before my next appointment (in a month)

> and

> > they

> > > > would let me have them then. For $25. Anyway, I will try the

> > > > Artalgia

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Pat

> >

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