Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 I couldn't agree with you more Jan. The drugs take your family away from you by totally changing their personalities. There body is there but their mind is no longer the person you know as your family. Then that drug induced state is blamed on them as " mental illness " and you, because it's " heriditary' are percieved to probably have it too and are watched with suspicion. Dr. Lance, D.C..______________________________________________ Until you " live with " someone on these drugs, you can't and won't make a statement that " a person still has to be responsible for their behaviors " . Watching someone's personality and abilities to control their behaviors ... changes soooo drastically, even THEY will tell you they don't remember doing some of the things they did and how they felt so out-of-control. I'd be very careful NOT to fall into that mindset that people can still control themselves while on these drugs, SSRI's especially. These are " toxic " drugs to the whole body (trash isn't definitive enough). Tragic statistics alone will tell you they become another person. Ask the user and the people they live with !!!!!! There's where the truth is......... Just me... Jan =============================================== On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Connie Mullins <cmull3700@...> writes: > > I disagree on this kid being responsible for his on > actions. I don't know how many times i heard that with > my son. " he has to be responsbile for his own > actions. " FINE, but don't prescribe trash that's going > to make his behavior MORE unstable and unpredictable > than it already is. The blame lies with the pharma > co's. They have brought this on all themselves. Them > and the FDA. Take THEM to court! > > WHEN DO THE PHARMA DRUG LORDS AND THE FDA > BECOME ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS??? > WHO IS HOLDING THESE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE??? > People are so fast to say, " he has to be accoutable for his > actions. " HIS actions, not that of those induced by their > trash they STILL continue to call medicine! > > Connie -------------------------------------------------- > --- Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote: > Annie, > The son still has to take responsibility for what he > did. Period. > But would it have even occured if there wasn't some > substance in his system? that's the question for me. ========= ========= .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 I couldn't agree with you more Jan. The drugs take your family away from you by totally changing their personalities. There body is there but their mind is no longer the person you know as your family. Then that drug induced state is blamed on them as " mental illness " and you, because it's " heriditary' are percieved to probably have it too and are watched with suspicion. Dr. Lance, D.C..______________________________________________ Until you " live with " someone on these drugs, you can't and won't make a statement that " a person still has to be responsible for their behaviors " . Watching someone's personality and abilities to control their behaviors ... changes soooo drastically, even THEY will tell you they don't remember doing some of the things they did and how they felt so out-of-control. I'd be very careful NOT to fall into that mindset that people can still control themselves while on these drugs, SSRI's especially. These are " toxic " drugs to the whole body (trash isn't definitive enough). Tragic statistics alone will tell you they become another person. Ask the user and the people they live with !!!!!! There's where the truth is......... Just me... Jan =============================================== On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Connie Mullins <cmull3700@...> writes: > > I disagree on this kid being responsible for his on > actions. I don't know how many times i heard that with > my son. " he has to be responsbile for his own > actions. " FINE, but don't prescribe trash that's going > to make his behavior MORE unstable and unpredictable > than it already is. The blame lies with the pharma > co's. They have brought this on all themselves. Them > and the FDA. Take THEM to court! > > WHEN DO THE PHARMA DRUG LORDS AND THE FDA > BECOME ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS??? > WHO IS HOLDING THESE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE??? > People are so fast to say, " he has to be accoutable for his > actions. " HIS actions, not that of those induced by their > trash they STILL continue to call medicine! > > Connie -------------------------------------------------- > --- Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote: > Annie, > The son still has to take responsibility for what he > did. Period. > But would it have even occured if there wasn't some > substance in his system? that's the question for me. ========= ========= .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 I couldn't agree with you more Jan. The drugs take your family away from you by totally changing their personalities. There body is there but their mind is no longer the person you know as your family. Then that drug induced state is blamed on them as " mental illness " and you, because it's " heriditary' are percieved to probably have it too and are watched with suspicion. Dr. Lance, D.C..______________________________________________ Until you " live with " someone on these drugs, you can't and won't make a statement that " a person still has to be responsible for their behaviors " . Watching someone's personality and abilities to control their behaviors ... changes soooo drastically, even THEY will tell you they don't remember doing some of the things they did and how they felt so out-of-control. I'd be very careful NOT to fall into that mindset that people can still control themselves while on these drugs, SSRI's especially. These are " toxic " drugs to the whole body (trash isn't definitive enough). Tragic statistics alone will tell you they become another person. Ask the user and the people they live with !!!!!! There's where the truth is......... Just me... Jan =============================================== On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Connie Mullins <cmull3700@...> writes: > > I disagree on this kid being responsible for his on > actions. I don't know how many times i heard that with > my son. " he has to be responsbile for his own > actions. " FINE, but don't prescribe trash that's going > to make his behavior MORE unstable and unpredictable > than it already is. The blame lies with the pharma > co's. They have brought this on all themselves. Them > and the FDA. Take THEM to court! > > WHEN DO THE PHARMA DRUG LORDS AND THE FDA > BECOME ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS??? > WHO IS HOLDING THESE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE??? > People are so fast to say, " he has to be accoutable for his > actions. " HIS actions, not that of those induced by their > trash they STILL continue to call medicine! > > Connie -------------------------------------------------- > --- Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote: > Annie, > The son still has to take responsibility for what he > did. Period. > But would it have even occured if there wasn't some > substance in his system? that's the question for me. ========= ========= .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 I couldn't agree with you more Jan. The drugs take your family away from you by totally changing their personalities. There body is there but their mind is no longer the person you know as your family. Then that drug induced state is blamed on them as " mental illness " and you, because it's " heriditary' are percieved to probably have it too and are watched with suspicion. Dr. Lance, D.C..______________________________________________ Until you " live with " someone on these drugs, you can't and won't make a statement that " a person still has to be responsible for their behaviors " . Watching someone's personality and abilities to control their behaviors ... changes soooo drastically, even THEY will tell you they don't remember doing some of the things they did and how they felt so out-of-control. I'd be very careful NOT to fall into that mindset that people can still control themselves while on these drugs, SSRI's especially. These are " toxic " drugs to the whole body (trash isn't definitive enough). Tragic statistics alone will tell you they become another person. Ask the user and the people they live with !!!!!! There's where the truth is......... Just me... Jan =============================================== On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Connie Mullins <cmull3700@...> writes: > > I disagree on this kid being responsible for his on > actions. I don't know how many times i heard that with > my son. " he has to be responsbile for his own > actions. " FINE, but don't prescribe trash that's going > to make his behavior MORE unstable and unpredictable > than it already is. The blame lies with the pharma > co's. They have brought this on all themselves. Them > and the FDA. Take THEM to court! > > WHEN DO THE PHARMA DRUG LORDS AND THE FDA > BECOME ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS??? > WHO IS HOLDING THESE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE??? > People are so fast to say, " he has to be accoutable for his > actions. " HIS actions, not that of those induced by their > trash they STILL continue to call medicine! > > Connie -------------------------------------------------- > --- Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote: > Annie, > The son still has to take responsibility for what he > did. Period. > But would it have even occured if there wasn't some > substance in his system? that's the question for me. ========= ========= .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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