Re: ~Starbucks Frappuccino's

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my 10 year old gets one now and again from tim hortons

he likes them i can't see why. they are awfull yuck!!

rhoda

--- Rysu19@... wrote:

> I have a question. What is your opinion on kids

> drinking those cold coffees?

> The Starbucks Frappuccino's? Just as a special

> treat, once in a while.

>

> ~Rainy Sue

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Hi Rhoda,

So, in your opinion, it's OK for him to have them once in a while? How do you

feel about kids having caffeine, or drinking other coffee's? Do you think

kids should wait to drink coffee until they're adults? Curious.

~Rainy Sue

> my 10 year old gets one now and again from tim hortons

> he likes them i can't see why. they are awfull yuck!!

> rhoda

>

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Speaking of caffeine, I only react to caffeine in coffee; not in soda (very

much) and not in chocolate. I can drink hot chocolate in the middle of the

night and it puts me to sleep. I stopped though because it bothers my bowels.

The issue of giving caffeine to children is a touchy one. Some kids can

handle it and others cannot. I have heard it is actually used to calm down a

hyper active child sometimes. It is just another drug and everybody responds

differently like everything else.

I personally love English Toffee Cappiccino though. I had to put the kabosh

on that too. I was buying it in buckets. $$$$$$$$$$$$$

Jeannette

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The reason I have put this question to the list is because my little neighbor

friend who is 9 years old isn't allowed to have a Starbucks Frappuccino

because her Mom's friend said they aren't good for kids. That kids shouldn't

drink them and she knows this because she is a nurse. She was throwing her

nursing degree in the Mom's face. Which she only just got. This woman is from

the Ukraine and the impression I have gotten from her is that she likes to

have control over everyone and everything - even me in a sense - that's a

whole other story. Mariya, my neighbor, was really disappointed about this

because she really likes them, as a treat once in a while. I introduced them

to her last summer. I shared one with her. In my opinion, they aren't any

worse than hot chocolate, which they drink all the time. I know it is the

Mom's friend being overbearing - I say this because of other incidents as

well. The other night when Mariya was told she couldn't have one she almost

cried. It made me mad that some other woman is deciding what is best for

Mariya rather than her own Mom. Mariya's Mom seems to take everything the

friend says to heart, too. Which irritates me.

After Mariya's Mom went home, she had brought me a Frap for a treat, I gave

Mariya a little of mine. I know I *shouldn't* do that and go behind the back

of the Mom, but I felt so bad for Mariya and *I* know it isn't going to hurt

her! Moms on the list, please don't be upset that I went behind the back of

Mariya's Mom. I would never do anything to hurt Mariya or any other kid. Any

feedback? Advice? Opinions?

Hugs & Smiles,

Rainy Sue

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:

Prednisone gives you an appetite. I have gained about 40-50 lbs on the stuff

since 1997 with no end in sight. I tear up pictures of myself when I see

them. I cannot believe how I look versus how I looked before Prednisone.

Some of it is from eating but alot is from water retention, and depositing

your fat in your middle, face and back. I HATE HATE HATE it!!!! I feel like

Bertha Blimp!!

Jeannette

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I LOVE mocha Frappuccino's! I also love the International Coffee's - Kahlua

Cafe. And my Mom just got me Folger's mocha latte that is to die for! I love

the cold coffee's!

~Rainy Sue

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Rhoda:

Just hope he is not interested in the liquor store or bar.......... God

forbid!!!

Jeannette

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Rainy Sue:

I would think that a frappuccino every now and then couldn't hurt a child.

And if you decided to share yours with Mariya (sp?), it is a special thing

between you and her and what mom or this other lady doesn't know won't hurt

them. After all, you are not giving the kid cocaine or marijuana or

something like that. When you think of it that way, it seems trite on that

woman's part doesn't it? Her ego problem, not yours!!!

Jeannette

[Guest guest]

I have never tried the lattes. I have been looking for the Folgers and I

think Hills Brothers cans of Cappiccinos though and they do not have them

here yet. I see them advertised on TV though. Here I go again with

cappiccinos!!!!

Jeannette

[Guest guest]

Well,my kids learned in school (as young as 1st grade)that caffeine was a

drug and was found in coffee, chocolate, colas, etc. I have never really been

a coffee drinker of any kind....and dont do caffeine in pops cos I get breast

pains...both of my kids have done caffeine...and are fine..the kids who

shouldn't have it are the ones who have adhd and other hyperactivity

problems....as for giving some to the kid w/o mom knowing ...well,it may seem

harmless to you..but as a mom who expressed to you that she didnt want the

kid to have it ..well , personally I wouldn't care....but I have had parents

no longer be friends because of such things.....some parents react very badly

to someone doing what they purposely said no to....just be

prepared.......Judy in AZ

[Guest guest]

I doubt it will hurt him in moderation - the caffeine.

There is caffeine in a lot of pop and in (gasp)

chocolate. I guess I would worry about it if it became

so regular that he relied on it for energy boosts.

[Guest guest]

Jeannette-

I know what you mean. When mom and I have been able to

dig out to get out to walk at the mall- we treat

ourselves to coffee at the Coffee Beanery in the food

court. (We are also addicted to Bob breakfast

regardless of the time of day, but I digress) My mom,

the little bum, is usually pretty good- she doesn't like

creamy drinks (and is a size 6)- but every once in

awhile- I succumb to something with either caramel or

white chocolate or go to and Noble for regular

coffee- black - but with a blueberry or cinammon scone.

Maybe its not just the prednisone- although I swear it

gave me my sweet tooth. I rarely ever wanted desserts or

sweets before I started taking it. Coffee - regular and

decaf both- are bad for the GERD.

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not coffee unless he has brochitis then it helps him

breathe better. one thing you should know about my son

is that he is already the size of a small adult. at 10

years old he is 5'5 " and about 150 lbs he is not a

regular sized child by any means his father was 6'4 "

and almost 300 lb with loads of muscle. this boy will

be huge so i'm not too worried about stunting his

growth or anything...LOL i'm more worried about if

the liquor store or a bar will serve him when he's 15

may god save me from that..

rhoda

--- Rysu19@... wrote:

> Hi Rhoda,

>

> So, in your opinion, it's OK for him to have them

> once in a while? How do you

> feel about kids having caffeine, or drinking other

> coffee's? Do you think

> kids should wait to drink coffee until they're

> adults? Curious.

>

> ~Rainy Sue

>

>

> > my 10 year old gets one now and again from tim

> hortons

> > he likes them i can't see why. they are awfull

> yuck!!

> > rhoda

> >

>

>

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english toffee aaaaaaaa grooooannnn i love

english toffee cappucino

rhoda

--- ednettieolson@... wrote:

> Speaking of caffeine, I only react to caffeine in

> coffee; not in soda (very

> much) and not in chocolate. I can drink hot

> chocolate in the middle of the

> night and it puts me to sleep. I stopped though

> because it bothers my bowels.

>

> The issue of giving caffeine to children is a touchy

> one. Some kids can

> handle it and others cannot. I have heard it is

> actually used to calm down a

> hyper active child sometimes. It is just another

> drug and everybody responds

> differently like everything else.

>

> I personally love English Toffee Cappiccino though.

> I had to put the kabosh

> on that too. I was buying it in buckets.

> $$$$$$$$$$$$$

>

> Jeannette

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Rainy Sue,

As my father would advise: " Everything in moderation. " Once in awhile is

fine, but no child needs hot chocolate or coffee drinks or colas each day.

It's not only the caffeine - it's the sugar and fat, too. Diabetes and

obesity are on the rise; tooth decay is always a risk. BUT, I don't see the

harm if the frappuccino is given as a treat now and then.

In my opinion, if the mother has outlawed the drink (who cares what the

nurse friend thinks!), I wouldn't give it to the child anymore. If the child

knows that the mother doesn't want her to drink it, but you allow it, you

are giving her permission to break her mother's rules. Not a good idea. I

wouldn't beat yourself up about it, but I wouldn't do it again.

If it weren't so late, I think I'd go brew some coffee after reading all the

notes in this thread. Sounds good.

----- Original Message -----

From: <Rysu19@...>

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Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 9:26 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] ~Starbucks Frappuccino's

> The reason I have put this question to the list is because my little

neighbor

> friend who is 9 years old isn't allowed to have a Starbucks Frappuccino

> because her Mom's friend said they aren't good for kids. That kids

shouldn't

> drink them and she knows this because she is a nurse. She was throwing her

> nursing degree in the Mom's face. Which she only just got. This woman is

from

> the Ukraine and the impression I have gotten from her is that she likes to

> have control over everyone and everything - even me in a sense - that's a

> whole other story. Mariya, my neighbor, was really disappointed about this

> because she really likes them, as a treat once in a while. I introduced

them

> to her last summer. I shared one with her. In my opinion, they aren't any

> worse than hot chocolate, which they drink all the time. I know it is the

> Mom's friend being overbearing - I say this because of other incidents as

> well. The other night when Mariya was told she couldn't have one she

almost

> cried. It made me mad that some other woman is deciding what is best for

> Mariya rather than her own Mom. Mariya's Mom seems to take everything the

> friend says to heart, too. Which irritates me.

>

> After Mariya's Mom went home, she had brought me a Frap for a treat, I

gave

> Mariya a little of mine. I know I *shouldn't* do that and go behind the

back

> of the Mom, but I felt so bad for Mariya and *I* know it isn't going to

hurt

> her! Moms on the list, please don't be upset that I went behind the back

of

> Mariya's Mom. I would never do anything to hurt Mariya or any other kid.

Any

> feedback? Advice? Opinions?

>

> Hugs & Smiles,

> Rainy Sue

[Guest guest]

i know how you feel there, my son is 17 now 6'3 " about 250. they ask him what

his wife wants at the hot dog store. his friends dad thought i was his sister

not his mom!

[Guest guest]

I don't drink coffee, gave it up when I got pregnant and have just never

started again. I love the smell though. When my son (6 yrs old) is at my

mom's she let's him have some of her coffee when it cools off.

I remember going to my grandmother's house when I was a kid and having

coffee, she used to pour it in a saucer for me and she used only evaporated

milk in hers.

drinks iced tea like crazy. The only kid I know who would rather have

tea than a soda. I don't see any problem with it. Just my opinion. Tery -

FL

[Guest guest]

with 5 boys i sure know about caffine. doesn't have a problem with

caffine at all, with jesse caffine in chocolate doesn't bother him but if he

has to much soda he gets a bit hyper, with jake it doesn't matter what it is

if there is caffine and he gets to much he is unbearable. and jared if

they get to much can be a bit hard to handle but nothing serious. me on the

other hand don't seem to get enough caffine but if i do get to much i get

headaches. jason if he gets to much won't sleep at night and makes me nuts

cause he tosses and turns and since he is such a big man and we have a

waterbed i tend to get a bit of sea sickness.

shelly

[Guest guest]

Rainy sue don't feel guilty. i would have opened my big mouth to my friend

about her overbearing friend. I hate when a parent puts their own instinct on

hold for a person who most likely doesn't even have kids of her own. i am not

saying that giving caffine to a child on a day to day basis is the thing to

do but there is no harm in giving them caffine once in awhile. robert is very

healthy and growing well. he is 13 yrs old 5'8'' and wears a size 11 1/2 shoe

and i have to say he gets lots more caffine then the other kids do cause i

can't keep tabs on even thing he eats or drinks and when the schools have 2

or 3 soda machines i have no clue what he drinks when at school.

shelly

[Guest guest]

Thank you, a,

It was just for a special treat. She had the total of about a cup, since we

shared one. My whole big prob is that the friend of her mother is controlling

the kids. Mariya has 5 other brothers and sisters, ages 19 to 4. The friend

has one child age 2. She's pretty weird about how she is bringing up her kid.

One day, I saw her smack him in the face with a book. IMO, you don't hit a

child of that age. Esp the way she did. I feel bad for him knowing how strict

she is. She needs to give him room to breathe.

~Rainy Sue

In a message dated 12/20/00 6:07:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,

aA@... writes:

> Rainy Sue,

> When my children were little, I was a real strict mom with their diets. I

> didn't allow soda, caffeine, candy except in moderation, or even that fruit

> roll up junk that is really nothing but candy with a good for you sounding

> name. BUT my friends would treat my kids to special treats and make it

> " their little secret " . It never bothered me that they had this special

> thing to share. If I were in your shoes, I'd probably have done the same

> thing. As long as it is in moderation and is just a special treat, I don't

> see the harm.

> a

>

[Guest guest]

Rainy Sue,

I don't see anything wrong with a special treat once in a while.

a

----- Original Message -----

From: <Rysu19@...>

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Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 8:39 PM

Subject: [ ] ~Starbucks Frappuccino's

> I have a question. What is your opinion on kids drinking those cold

coffees?

> The Starbucks Frappuccino's? Just as a special treat, once in a while.

>

> ~Rainy Sue

>

[Guest guest]

a,

You're right and normally I do as the parent says, but the friend saying that

the Frap's aren't for kids made me mad. Especially because of what I know of

her. I don't intend to do it again.

Thank you!

Rainy Sue

> Rainy Sue,

> Your friend need to have more confidence in her own parenting skills. It's

> great to listen to the advise of others, but since no one else walks in our

> shoes, we have to decide for ourselves what is right.

> I'd NEVER take advise from a parent that smacks their kid in the face with a

> book! I rarely hit my children, but hitting in the face is completely out

> of line.

> In order to protect your friendship, it may be a good idea to abide by the

> mom's rules. Maybe if you asked her if it was ok for her to have just an

> occasional sip of yours, it will avoid any problems. I'd hate to see you

> loose a friendship.

> a

>

[Guest guest]

Rainy Sue,

Your friend need to have more confidence in her own parenting skills. It's

great to listen to the advise of others, but since no one else walks in our

shoes, we have to decide for ourselves what is right.

I'd NEVER take advise from a parent that smacks their kid in the face with a

book! I rarely hit my children, but hitting in the face is completely out

of line.

In order to protect your friendship, it may be a good idea to abide by the

mom's rules. Maybe if you asked her if it was ok for her to have just an

occasional sip of yours, it will avoid any problems. I'd hate to see you

loose a friendship.

a

----- Original Message -----

From: <Rysu19@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 9:13 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] ~Starbucks Frappuccino's

> Thank you, a,

>

> It was just for a special treat. She had the total of about a cup, since

we

> shared one. My whole big prob is that the friend of her mother is

controlling

> the kids. Mariya has 5 other brothers and sisters, ages 19 to 4. The

friend

> has one child age 2. She's pretty weird about how she is bringing up her

kid.

> One day, I saw her smack him in the face with a book. IMO, you don't hit a

> child of that age. Esp the way she did. I feel bad for him knowing how

strict

> she is. She needs to give him room to breathe.

>

> ~Rainy Sue

>

> In a message dated 12/20/00 6:07:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> aA@... writes:

>

>

> > Rainy Sue,

> > When my children were little, I was a real strict mom with their diets.

I

> > didn't allow soda, caffeine, candy except in moderation, or even that

fruit

> > roll up junk that is really nothing but candy with a good for you

sounding

> > name. BUT my friends would treat my kids to special treats and make it

> > " their little secret " . It never bothered me that they had this

special

> > thing to share. If I were in your shoes, I'd probably have done the

same

> > thing. As long as it is in moderation and is just a special treat, I

don't

> > see the harm.

> > a

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Rainy Sue,

I guess to parents that are anti-caffeine, any of these drinks are

considered off limits. When my daughter was young, she never had soda.

She didn't even know what it was. At that time I drank my share of soda.

I could drink a can of soda in front of her and she didn't know or care what

it was. One day my SIL, her aunt, gave her a sip off of her can of soda.

She KNEW how I felt about it, and I was very angry. From that day forward,

any time she saw a soda can she wanted one. This doesn't really relate to

your situation because your friend probably wouldn't care if she weren't

listening to the advise of someone else. I still think it's a good idea to

keep caffeine away from children. There is no nutritional value in it, so

it should be treated like candy, a special treat on occasion.

Just my opinion.

a

----- Original Message -----

From: <Rysu19@...>

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Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 3:16 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] ~Starbucks Frappuccino's

> a,

>

> You're right and normally I do as the parent says, but the friend saying

that

> the Frap's aren't for kids made me mad. Especially because of what I know

of

> her. I don't intend to do it again.

>

> Thank you!

> Rainy Sue

>

>

> > Rainy Sue,

> > Your friend need to have more confidence in her own parenting skills.

It's

> > great to listen to the advise of others, but since no one else walks in

our

> > shoes, we have to decide for ourselves what is right.

> > I'd NEVER take advise from a parent that smacks their kid in the face

with a

> > book! I rarely hit my children, but hitting in the face is completely

out

> > of line.

> > In order to protect your friendship, it may be a good idea to abide by

the

> > mom's rules. Maybe if you asked her if it was ok for her to have just

an

> > occasional sip of yours, it will avoid any problems. I'd hate to see

you

> > loose a friendship.

> > a

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeannette,

Greetings and Salutations to all...

Today I looked at the ingredients on my cocoa. It says it is 99.9% caffeine

free. I would guess then that is the reason you are able to sleep when you

drink cocoa. I can sleep, too. Maybe yours is mostly caffeine free as well.

Hugs, Rainy Sue

" People who hate cats will come back as mice in their next life. "

-- Faith Resnick

In a message dated 12/18/00 6:27:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,

ednettieolson@... writes:

> Speaking of caffeine, I only react to caffeine in coffee; not in soda (very

> much) and not in chocolate. I can drink hot chocolate in the middle of the

> night and it puts me to sleep. I stopped though because it bothers my

> bowels.

>

>

> Jeannette

>