Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Thanks Alison. personwho@... wrote: In no particular order: 1. NAMI tells parents that their children are permanently damaged and that their lives will be tragic. (have heard this one directly.) 2. NAMI is successfully pushing PACT, an expensive and coercive and disempowering program that leads to permanent dependence rather than any kind of independent life, and which does not improve the quality of life of participants, all over the country. It is using up huge amounts of extremely limited resources and essentially stealing from alternative consumer run programs and even from traditional talk therapy for people in the public mental health system. 3. NAMI lies and claims to be a patient group, speaking for consumers/survivors/ex-patients, when it is only speaking for family members and only for a certain subset of controlling, usually middle class to above, white, family members. The media has fallen for this and asks NAMI's opinion instead of asking real patient or csx groups. 4. NAMI takes a huge amount of money from big Pharma, tainting every decision and policy they make. NAMI even, like AARP, supported the notoriously awful Medicare bill that is going to cost me and countless others a lot of money over the next several years in lost private benefits and lost opportunity for imported drugs and negotiated prices. (transplant drugs are hugely expensive as are most cardiac and other drugs the elderly use.) 5. NAMI supports coercion and forced treatment. It never comes out against it. NAMI supports the keeping open of state hospitals. 6. NAMI lies. (See all previous numbers.) Alison _______________________________________________ Actmad mailing list Actmad@... http://mail.elopp.net/mailman/listinfo/actmad_elopp.net F. Prior Calendar: http://calendar./j_prior T: 773/774-6696 M: 773/230-5825 F: 801/848-3451 E: jprior@... W: www.lgln.com : 22:36-40, Deut 6:5, and Leviticus 19:18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Thanks Alison. personwho@... wrote: In no particular order: 1. NAMI tells parents that their children are permanently damaged and that their lives will be tragic. (have heard this one directly.) 2. NAMI is successfully pushing PACT, an expensive and coercive and disempowering program that leads to permanent dependence rather than any kind of independent life, and which does not improve the quality of life of participants, all over the country. It is using up huge amounts of extremely limited resources and essentially stealing from alternative consumer run programs and even from traditional talk therapy for people in the public mental health system. 3. NAMI lies and claims to be a patient group, speaking for consumers/survivors/ex-patients, when it is only speaking for family members and only for a certain subset of controlling, usually middle class to above, white, family members. The media has fallen for this and asks NAMI's opinion instead of asking real patient or csx groups. 4. NAMI takes a huge amount of money from big Pharma, tainting every decision and policy they make. NAMI even, like AARP, supported the notoriously awful Medicare bill that is going to cost me and countless others a lot of money over the next several years in lost private benefits and lost opportunity for imported drugs and negotiated prices. (transplant drugs are hugely expensive as are most cardiac and other drugs the elderly use.) 5. NAMI supports coercion and forced treatment. It never comes out against it. NAMI supports the keeping open of state hospitals. 6. NAMI lies. (See all previous numbers.) Alison _______________________________________________ Actmad mailing list Actmad@... http://mail.elopp.net/mailman/listinfo/actmad_elopp.net F. Prior Calendar: http://calendar./j_prior T: 773/774-6696 M: 773/230-5825 F: 801/848-3451 E: jprior@... W: www.lgln.com : 22:36-40, Deut 6:5, and Leviticus 19:18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Thanks Alison. personwho@... wrote: In no particular order: 1. NAMI tells parents that their children are permanently damaged and that their lives will be tragic. (have heard this one directly.) 2. NAMI is successfully pushing PACT, an expensive and coercive and disempowering program that leads to permanent dependence rather than any kind of independent life, and which does not improve the quality of life of participants, all over the country. It is using up huge amounts of extremely limited resources and essentially stealing from alternative consumer run programs and even from traditional talk therapy for people in the public mental health system. 3. NAMI lies and claims to be a patient group, speaking for consumers/survivors/ex-patients, when it is only speaking for family members and only for a certain subset of controlling, usually middle class to above, white, family members. The media has fallen for this and asks NAMI's opinion instead of asking real patient or csx groups. 4. NAMI takes a huge amount of money from big Pharma, tainting every decision and policy they make. NAMI even, like AARP, supported the notoriously awful Medicare bill that is going to cost me and countless others a lot of money over the next several years in lost private benefits and lost opportunity for imported drugs and negotiated prices. (transplant drugs are hugely expensive as are most cardiac and other drugs the elderly use.) 5. NAMI supports coercion and forced treatment. It never comes out against it. NAMI supports the keeping open of state hospitals. 6. NAMI lies. (See all previous numbers.) Alison _______________________________________________ Actmad mailing list Actmad@... http://mail.elopp.net/mailman/listinfo/actmad_elopp.net F. Prior Calendar: http://calendar./j_prior T: 773/774-6696 M: 773/230-5825 F: 801/848-3451 E: jprior@... W: www.lgln.com : 22:36-40, Deut 6:5, and Leviticus 19:18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Thanks Alison. personwho@... wrote: In no particular order: 1. NAMI tells parents that their children are permanently damaged and that their lives will be tragic. (have heard this one directly.) 2. NAMI is successfully pushing PACT, an expensive and coercive and disempowering program that leads to permanent dependence rather than any kind of independent life, and which does not improve the quality of life of participants, all over the country. It is using up huge amounts of extremely limited resources and essentially stealing from alternative consumer run programs and even from traditional talk therapy for people in the public mental health system. 3. NAMI lies and claims to be a patient group, speaking for consumers/survivors/ex-patients, when it is only speaking for family members and only for a certain subset of controlling, usually middle class to above, white, family members. The media has fallen for this and asks NAMI's opinion instead of asking real patient or csx groups. 4. NAMI takes a huge amount of money from big Pharma, tainting every decision and policy they make. NAMI even, like AARP, supported the notoriously awful Medicare bill that is going to cost me and countless others a lot of money over the next several years in lost private benefits and lost opportunity for imported drugs and negotiated prices. (transplant drugs are hugely expensive as are most cardiac and other drugs the elderly use.) 5. NAMI supports coercion and forced treatment. It never comes out against it. NAMI supports the keeping open of state hospitals. 6. NAMI lies. (See all previous numbers.) Alison _______________________________________________ Actmad mailing list Actmad@... http://mail.elopp.net/mailman/listinfo/actmad_elopp.net F. Prior Calendar: http://calendar./j_prior T: 773/774-6696 M: 773/230-5825 F: 801/848-3451 E: jprior@... W: www.lgln.com : 22:36-40, Deut 6:5, and Leviticus 19:18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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