SSRI Victim Rescue & Responsibility

October 23, 2004

Dear Bowriver011,

Let's not have discriminatory across the board opinions about all SSRI

victims not being able to capable of be responsible. Some can and some

can't. Yes we need to protect ourselves with the knowledge and awareness

that the public safety is endangered because of them and this is a good

approach to forced medication, but some are seekng help and don't know where

to find it like my Mother and I before her suicide.Altering someone's

brainwashing is a slow process. When the victim isn't pressured and has time

to think about it themselves and may start to realized that their recurring

symptoms occur more frequently with the drugs they will know where to

perhaps get some help and we have to be ready.

I have just gotten off the phone with a woman who had brain surgery this

week and DHR told her to take the bus home. They are threatening to take her

3 children away because she's too poor to get her washing machine fixed and

is too sick to wash them out by hand. Her son got in a fight at school and

the social workers are threatening to take her children away because of the

broken washing machine and because he had been on SSRI's for 7 years and she

took him off of them before school just to see what her children would be

like without them without withdrawal symptoms .I was very careful to make

sure that I wasn't telling her not to put her children on the drugs. She

told me she has been asking for years for them to tell her what studies had

been done on these drugs for children and they have refused to answer her

questions. That's violating her rights as a parent to make an informed

consent decision about the drugs that she is being threatened with being

placed in foster care if she doesn't medicate her children. The adolescent

boy got in a fight and was suspended from school. Now that's her fault

because she took him off the drugs before school. In my day the unruly boys

got a paddlin' and had to stay after school in detention.

I've suggested that when her friend goes to the drug store for her that he

get a form to document the time and date that she is administering the drugs

since the DHR social workers have called her " uncooperative " . I've reminded

her that if the patriots hadn't been " uncooperative " with England we never

would have had America and that parents as long as they are not endangering

their children, should have the ultimately control over their own children's

health care, not the government.

She'd going to document exactly the administration of the drugs at what time

and on what day to create evidence that she is cooperating with the

administration of the drugs.

Our friend is also going to ask the pharmacist for not only the computer

print-out for each drug that she is being required to give her children

under threat of foster care but the Physician's Desk REference so that she

can finally get her question answered about the tests on children and

memorize the side effects, contraindications, etc. She will document these

if obeserved and then transcribe it onto another piece of paper so that no

one ever has a chance to confiscate her original evidence of the consumptoin

of the drugs and the possible side effects that she may observe.

I've also suggested that she write out a statement for the DHR social worker

to sign that she wants to know if the drug that she is being required to

administer to her child under threat of seizure for foster care is any of

the drugs that the FDA has been investigating for increasing the incidence

of suicide because if her son commits suicide on the drug that the DHR

Social Worker is forcing her to give under threat of foster care it can't be

blamed on the Mother and she will have proof that the Social Worker forced

her to give her son the drug with or without telling her if there was an

increased incidence of suicide against her opinion as his Mother that she

didn't want him to take it.

When she started asking for public transportation to physical therapy

instead of mental health DHR refused to help her get transportation.

There are people out there looking for help.

Does anyone have any more suggestions?

They're going to get supplies to have chicken/bean/vegetable soom on the

stove for eating at all time so there can be no allegation of not having

enought food (being poor without money for food is now a reason for the

Federal Government to fund social worker jobs with your tax dollars).

A neighbor is going to do the laundry that will be kept in a laundrey basket

near the front door ready in case there is an unexpected home visit.

DHR owns this property that is being subsidized by the federal government in

rent. Wonder how many other properties are owned by DHR? I was taught that

when Communism takes over the government, not the people, own the land.

Interestingly, no DHR Social Worker has offered to help her take the father

to court to get back child support that could be used to fix the washing

machine.

No Mother of three that has just had brain surgery shoudl be being

threatened with having her children taken away from her because she is poor

and doesn't believe her children should be medicated with psychiatric

medications.

I asked her if she felt that her children had been helped by 7 years of SSRI

medications and she said " No " .

Yes, it's true that some are too mind controlled to see how their quality of

life has been adversely affected, there are some that are happy with SSRI's

(I'm happy while I'm intoxicated with alcohol but that's no reason to let it

destroy my brain cells, liver, and cause depression, etc.),a

and there are some that are seeking help.

I looked EVERYWHERE I knew to go to try to get help for my Mother and all I

could find was more psychiatrists doing the same things that the previous

objectionable psychiatrists had already done to her and none of them could

ever refer me to someone who could offer any alternatives or get her off

without the withdrawal symptoms being blamed on her.

There are defininately people out there looking for help and I'm asking for

anyone that has any suggestions that can be offered to this Mother or if you

would be willing to call her and offer words of encouragement yourself, let

me know. It's very stressful to feel like the DHR Social Workers are going

to show up any minute and take your children away from you and this

distracts your mind from being able to think of ways to circumvent their

efforts.

I've armed her with the ammo of knowledge and that there are people out

there their that understand her position.

She need help and understanding; not threats and stress.

IF her children are put in foster care we all pay for it and children

should be raised by their own parents unless they are endangering them with

physical abuse or whatever.

Sincerely,

Dr. Lance, D.C.

800 309 6560

---- Original Message -----

From: " bowriver011 " <bowriver011@...>

Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 12:07 PM

Subject: Re: Public Safety from SSRI's

>

> Yes, we can you know 'drop hints' to people taking SSRIs that the

> drugs are:

>

> addiction forming

> personality altering

> brain damaging

> cancer causing

>

> etc. but do you think they'll listen? That's about making the

> victims be the responsible ones and I don't think they're capable.

>

> > > Gltiter and others,

> > > I am aware of the statistics connecting workplace shootings

> > > and SSRI's. I'm also aware that " sometimes " you can see

> > > it in their eyes. But my last paragraph from my response to

> > > the original post, is the issue here:

> > >

> > > >>> " I'm very interested in knowing what you would

> > > do if you knew a co-worker was on an SSRI...

> > > Maybe you know something I haven't thought about.

> > > Please respond........... " <<<<<

> > >

> > > So does everyone think an employer has an obligation to notify

> > > fellow employess that Doe is taking SSRI's, OR what???

> > > Just what do others think an employer is supposed to do when

> > > they find out an employee is on an SSRI ... AND what is a

> > > fellow co-worker supposed to do? That's what I am asking

> > > in my " above " question from " my original " response.......

> > > I think this is worth discussing!!!!!!! = just what is an employer

> > > and fellow employee supposed to do???????

> > >

> > > The original posted question was:

> > > >>>>> " Don't you think that people have a right to know if their

> > > co workers are taking SSRIs??? " <<<<<

> > >

> > > Just me... Jan

> > > ===============

> > .

> >

October 23, 2004