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Kimberley, given the fact that I live in a different time zone and are

sweating over a difficult legal translation at 3 in the morning, I will most

definitely not spend one-tenth of my censorship energy, as you put it, to

explain the concept and objective of this forum to people clearly incapable

and unwilling to abide by the list rules. Freedom of expression and opinions

is not synonymous with persistent violations of rules and regulations, as

exercised by one particular group member subsequently banned from this forum

for posting copyrighted personal comments of list members to non-members and

other groups.

Ingrid

I really don't understand why OT posts are such a problem as long as

they are titled as such in the subject line.

I have no interest in politics so I use my delete key. It's less time-

consuming than being a control-freak and constantly posting " Let's

don't get off topic - let's don't get off topic! " Relax already. We're

all for freedom, right?

Getting offended is a choice. Ignore people who write stupid things. I

wish the moderators or the frequent posters would spend one-tenth of

their censorship energy on getting people to trim their bloody posts.

Now THAT would be a nice skill for everyone to work on :)

Don't read topics that you're not interested in. Personally, I have

learned a lot about diverse subjects in this group and I'm grateful for

that. I love reading about homeopathy - but I have no desire to go join

a group devoted exclusively to the subject. If you're not interested in

it, instead of whining about how it's OT - ignore the thread. It's

really not that hard.

Kimberley

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Kimberley, given the fact that I live in a different time zone and are

sweating over a difficult legal translation at 3 in the morning, I will most

definitely not spend one-tenth of my censorship energy, as you put it, to

explain the concept and objective of this forum to people clearly incapable

and unwilling to abide by the list rules. Freedom of expression and opinions

is not synonymous with persistent violations of rules and regulations, as

exercised by one particular group member subsequently banned from this forum

for posting copyrighted personal comments of list members to non-members and

other groups.

Ingrid

I really don't understand why OT posts are such a problem as long as

they are titled as such in the subject line.

I have no interest in politics so I use my delete key. It's less time-

consuming than being a control-freak and constantly posting " Let's

don't get off topic - let's don't get off topic! " Relax already. We're

all for freedom, right?

Getting offended is a choice. Ignore people who write stupid things. I

wish the moderators or the frequent posters would spend one-tenth of

their censorship energy on getting people to trim their bloody posts.

Now THAT would be a nice skill for everyone to work on :)

Don't read topics that you're not interested in. Personally, I have

learned a lot about diverse subjects in this group and I'm grateful for

that. I love reading about homeopathy - but I have no desire to go join

a group devoted exclusively to the subject. If you're not interested in

it, instead of whining about how it's OT - ignore the thread. It's

really not that hard.

Kimberley

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Dear Ingrid,

I appreciate all you do for this group as a member and moderator. I

wasn't taking issue with the fact that someone got banned - indeed,

when we join we agree to follow the rules. I just feel an

overwhelming amount of time and energy is expended by some truly

brilliant people in trying to reign in OT posts and I'd rather

read " real " contributions from our most insightful members instead of

the repetitive " Keep on Topic " posts.

Warmly,

Kimberley

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> Kimberley, given the fact that I live in a different time zone and

are

> sweating over a difficult legal translation at 3 in the morning, I

will most

> definitely not spend one-tenth of my censorship energy, as you put

it, to

> explain the concept and objective of this forum to people clearly

incapable

> and unwilling to abide by the list rules. Freedom of expression and

opinions

> is not synonymous with persistent violations of rules and

regulations, as

> exercised by one particular group member subsequently banned from

this forum

> for posting copyrighted personal comments of list members to non-

members and

> other groups.

>

> Ingrid

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Dear Ingrid,

I appreciate all you do for this group as a member and moderator. I

wasn't taking issue with the fact that someone got banned - indeed,

when we join we agree to follow the rules. I just feel an

overwhelming amount of time and energy is expended by some truly

brilliant people in trying to reign in OT posts and I'd rather

read " real " contributions from our most insightful members instead of

the repetitive " Keep on Topic " posts.

Warmly,

Kimberley

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>

>

> Kimberley, given the fact that I live in a different time zone and

are

> sweating over a difficult legal translation at 3 in the morning, I

will most

> definitely not spend one-tenth of my censorship energy, as you put

it, to

> explain the concept and objective of this forum to people clearly

incapable

> and unwilling to abide by the list rules. Freedom of expression and

opinions

> is not synonymous with persistent violations of rules and

regulations, as

> exercised by one particular group member subsequently banned from

this forum

> for posting copyrighted personal comments of list members to non-

members and

> other groups.

>

> Ingrid

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To Neil and all list-serv members. Reminder, our current policy allows off topic posts as long as they indicate so in the subject header. As moderator, the only way I would consider a policy change re. "off-topic" is if either: 1-a majority of active list-serv members requested a change or 2- the list became "predominantly off-topic". In the last 10 years we have had two votes on this matter and each time a large majority voted to keep OT posts.

J. , DC

www.springbrookclinic.com

www.DaytonOregon.org

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To Neil and all list-serv members. Reminder, our current policy allows off topic posts as long as they indicate so in the subject header. As moderator, the only way I would consider a policy change re. "off-topic" is if either: 1-a majority of active list-serv members requested a change or 2- the list became "predominantly off-topic". In the last 10 years we have had two votes on this matter and each time a large majority voted to keep OT posts.

J. , DC

www.springbrookclinic.com

www.DaytonOregon.org

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I think OT is OK as long as it's labeled. One can always delete without opening as long as it's labeled.

, thanks for moderating.

Minga Guerrero DC

In a message dated 1/11/2010 7:36:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, spbkchiro@... writes:

To Neil and all list-serv members. Reminder, our current policy allows off topic posts as long as they indicate so in the subject header. As moderator, the only way I would consider a policy change re. "off-topic" is if either: 1-a majority of active list-serv members requested a change or 2- the list became "predominantly off-topic". In the last 10 years we have had two votes on this matter and each time a large majority voted to keep OT posts.

J. , DCwww.springbrookclinic.comwww.DaytonOregon.org

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I think OT is OK as long as it's labeled. One can always delete without opening as long as it's labeled.

, thanks for moderating.

Minga Guerrero DC

In a message dated 1/11/2010 7:36:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, spbkchiro@... writes:

To Neil and all list-serv members. Reminder, our current policy allows off topic posts as long as they indicate so in the subject header. As moderator, the only way I would consider a policy change re. "off-topic" is if either: 1-a majority of active list-serv members requested a change or 2- the list became "predominantly off-topic". In the last 10 years we have had two votes on this matter and each time a large majority voted to keep OT posts.

J. , DCwww.springbrookclinic.comwww.DaytonOregon.org

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....and it goes without saying that NO ONE can resist the temptation to open MY OT posts any more than they can eat one Lays Potatoe chip or ignore a knock knock joke.

You just never know when there will be a really great piece of wisdom or wit.

To wit: Wisdom:

It's bizarre that the produce manager is more important to my children's health than the pediatrician. 

~Meryl Streep

To wit: Wit:

Two nuns are driving home from a long hard day of nun’s work. They left the home of a dying woman late that night and entered a long stretch of supposedly haunted road just as it starts to rain. As they drove though this dark, dark rainstorm with lightning flashing all around, and their car sliding all over the road, the Devil himself appears on the hood of the car.

“Oh my,” says the first nun, “it’s Satan, the Dark Lord.”

The other nun, driving, says “Lean out the window, and show him your cross.”

So nun one leans out the window and yells ” Hey, assh*le, get off the hood!”

Badump bump.

Thank you very much!

I’ll be here ‘til Thursday.

Be sure to tip your waitress.

E. Abrahamson, D.C.

Chiropractic physician

Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com

From: <AboWoman@...>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:30:43 EST

<spbkchiro@...>, < >

Subject: Re: Re: OT Posts

I think OT is OK as long as it's labeled. One can always delete without opening as long as it's labeled.

, thanks for moderating.

Minga Guerrero DC

In a message dated 1/11/2010 7:36:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, spbkchiro@... writes:

To Neil and all list-serv members. Reminder, our current policy allows off topic posts as long as they indicate so in the subject header. As moderator, the only way I would consider a policy change re. " off-topic " is if either: 1-a majority of active list-serv members requested a change or 2- the list became " predominantly off-topic " . In the last 10 years we have had two votes on this matter and each time a large majority voted to keep OT posts.

J. , DC

www.springbrookclinic.com

www.DaytonOregon.org

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....and it goes without saying that NO ONE can resist the temptation to open MY OT posts any more than they can eat one Lays Potatoe chip or ignore a knock knock joke.

You just never know when there will be a really great piece of wisdom or wit.

To wit: Wisdom:

It's bizarre that the produce manager is more important to my children's health than the pediatrician. 

~Meryl Streep

To wit: Wit:

Two nuns are driving home from a long hard day of nun’s work. They left the home of a dying woman late that night and entered a long stretch of supposedly haunted road just as it starts to rain. As they drove though this dark, dark rainstorm with lightning flashing all around, and their car sliding all over the road, the Devil himself appears on the hood of the car.

“Oh my,” says the first nun, “it’s Satan, the Dark Lord.”

The other nun, driving, says “Lean out the window, and show him your cross.”

So nun one leans out the window and yells ” Hey, assh*le, get off the hood!”

Badump bump.

Thank you very much!

I’ll be here ‘til Thursday.

Be sure to tip your waitress.

E. Abrahamson, D.C.

Chiropractic physician

Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com

From: <AboWoman@...>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:30:43 EST

<spbkchiro@...>, < >

Subject: Re: Re: OT Posts

I think OT is OK as long as it's labeled. One can always delete without opening as long as it's labeled.

, thanks for moderating.

Minga Guerrero DC

In a message dated 1/11/2010 7:36:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, spbkchiro@... writes:

To Neil and all list-serv members. Reminder, our current policy allows off topic posts as long as they indicate so in the subject header. As moderator, the only way I would consider a policy change re. " off-topic " is if either: 1-a majority of active list-serv members requested a change or 2- the list became " predominantly off-topic " . In the last 10 years we have had two votes on this matter and each time a large majority voted to keep OT posts.

J. , DC

www.springbrookclinic.com

www.DaytonOregon.org

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....and it goes without saying that NO ONE can resist the temptation to open MY OT posts any more than they can eat one Lays Potatoe chip or ignore a knock knock joke.

You just never know when there will be a really great piece of wisdom or wit.

To wit: Wisdom:

It's bizarre that the produce manager is more important to my children's health than the pediatrician. 

~Meryl Streep

To wit: Wit:

Two nuns are driving home from a long hard day of nun’s work. They left the home of a dying woman late that night and entered a long stretch of supposedly haunted road just as it starts to rain. As they drove though this dark, dark rainstorm with lightning flashing all around, and their car sliding all over the road, the Devil himself appears on the hood of the car.

“Oh my,” says the first nun, “it’s Satan, the Dark Lord.”

The other nun, driving, says “Lean out the window, and show him your cross.”

So nun one leans out the window and yells ” Hey, assh*le, get off the hood!”

Badump bump.

Thank you very much!

I’ll be here ‘til Thursday.

Be sure to tip your waitress.

E. Abrahamson, D.C.

Chiropractic physician

Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic

315 Second Street

Lake Oswego, OR 97034

503-635-6246

Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com

From: <AboWoman@...>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:30:43 EST

<spbkchiro@...>, < >

Subject: Re: Re: OT Posts

I think OT is OK as long as it's labeled. One can always delete without opening as long as it's labeled.

, thanks for moderating.

Minga Guerrero DC

In a message dated 1/11/2010 7:36:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, spbkchiro@... writes:

To Neil and all list-serv members. Reminder, our current policy allows off topic posts as long as they indicate so in the subject header. As moderator, the only way I would consider a policy change re. " off-topic " is if either: 1-a majority of active list-serv members requested a change or 2- the list became " predominantly off-topic " . In the last 10 years we have had two votes on this matter and each time a large majority voted to keep OT posts.

J. , DC

www.springbrookclinic.com

www.DaytonOregon.org

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....ah y me-lad you never stop cracking me-up.....Vern Saboe

Re: Re: OT Posts I think OT is OK as long as it's labeled. One can always delete without opening as long as it's labeled., thanks for moderating.Minga Guerrero DC In a message dated 1/11/2010 7:36:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, spbkchiroaol writes:

To Neil and all list-serv members. Reminder, our current policy allows off topic posts as long as they indicate so in the subject header. As moderator, the only way I would consider a policy change re. "off-topic" is if either: 1-a majority of active list-serv members requested a change or 2- the list became "predominantly off-topic". In the last 10 years we have had two votes on this matter and each time a large majority voted to keep OT posts. J. , DCwww.springbrookclinic.comwww.DaytonOregon.org

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....ah y me-lad you never stop cracking me-up.....Vern Saboe

Re: Re: OT Posts I think OT is OK as long as it's labeled. One can always delete without opening as long as it's labeled., thanks for moderating.Minga Guerrero DC In a message dated 1/11/2010 7:36:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, spbkchiroaol writes:

To Neil and all list-serv members. Reminder, our current policy allows off topic posts as long as they indicate so in the subject header. As moderator, the only way I would consider a policy change re. "off-topic" is if either: 1-a majority of active list-serv members requested a change or 2- the list became "predominantly off-topic". In the last 10 years we have had two votes on this matter and each time a large majority voted to keep OT posts. J. , DCwww.springbrookclinic.comwww.DaytonOregon.org

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yes, and Quotes of Wisdom by Meryl Streep indeed belong in OT.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

Re: Re: OT Posts I think OT is OK as long as it's labeled. One can always delete without opening as long as it's labeled., thanks for moderating.Minga Guerrero DC In a message dated 1/11/2010 7:36:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, spbkchiroaol writes:

To Neil and all list-serv members. Reminder, our current policy allows off topic posts as long as they indicate so in the subject header. As moderator, the only way I would consider a policy change re. "off-topic" is if either: 1-a majority of active list-serv members requested a change or 2- the list became "predominantly off-topic". In the last 10 years we have had two votes on this matter and each time a large majority voted to keep OT posts. J. , DCwww.springbrookclinic.comwww.DaytonOregon.org

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yes, and Quotes of Wisdom by Meryl Streep indeed belong in OT.

ph Medlin D.C.Spine Tree Chiropractic1607 NE Alberta StPDX, OR 97211503-788-6800

Re: Re: OT Posts I think OT is OK as long as it's labeled. One can always delete without opening as long as it's labeled., thanks for moderating.Minga Guerrero DC In a message dated 1/11/2010 7:36:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, spbkchiroaol writes:

To Neil and all list-serv members. Reminder, our current policy allows off topic posts as long as they indicate so in the subject header. As moderator, the only way I would consider a policy change re. "off-topic" is if either: 1-a majority of active list-serv members requested a change or 2- the list became "predominantly off-topic". In the last 10 years we have had two votes on this matter and each time a large majority voted to keep OT posts. J. , DCwww.springbrookclinic.comwww.DaytonOregon.org

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I have no problem with off topic posts or the poster's. I only have concerns

that this may be distracting from our true mission as chiropractors. I hope

that these discussions are not creating a negative energy between some valuable

persons on this list serve. I have no desire to see any sensorship on these

topics, just hope we can keep the positive energy flowing and the negative

energy to a minimum. I am honoured to be a part of this group and learn

something useful on a regular basis.

Kehr

AboWoman@... wrote:

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>I think OT is OK as long as it's labeled. One can always delete without

>opening as long as it's labeled.

>, thanks for moderating.

>Minga Guerrero DC

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>In a message dated 1/11/2010 7:36:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

>spbkchiro@... writes:

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>To Neil and all list-serv members. Reminder, our current policy allows off

>topic posts as long as they indicate so in the subject header. As

>moderator, the only way I would consider a policy change re. " off-topic " is if

>either: 1-a majority of active list-serv members requested a change or 2-

the

>list became " predominantly off-topic " . In the last 10 years we have had

>two votes on this matter and each time a large majority voted to keep OT

>posts.

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> J. , DC

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>www.DaytonOregon.www

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