Guest guest Posted September 13, 2000 Report Share Posted September 13, 2000 Yes, in williss paper it remarks this too, take all flouride off our kids, bar none. That means even DIFLUCAN which contains flouride, please check all pharmaceuticals, it's in there at times Kathy [ ] Fluoride > >Hi everyone~ > >Amazing what I didn't know about fluoride! Pasted in below is a post I >received from a friend. I've also found a few others that I'll be sending. >Scary stuff! > >Chris >========================================= >, >In Physicians for Social Responsibilities report " In Harm's Way, Toxic >Threats to Child Development " there are a few pages devoted to fluoride. >Here are some excerpts: >Since the 1950's, in many communities throughout the US and other areas of >the world, fluoride has been added to community drinking water supplies >with the intention of reducing tooth decay. Controversy about the safety >of that practice centers around concerns about increased risks of tooth >staining, and brittleness (dental fluorosis), bone brittleness (skeletal >fluorosis), bone cancer, hormone disruption (melatonin), premature >puberty, and altered neurological development. >In addition, some critics argue that fluoridating the water supply has a >minimal impact on tooth decay. The practice has been staunchly defended >by the American Dental Association and heralded by the Centers for Disease >Control and Prevention as one of the major public health success stories >of the 20th century. We don not intend to review the entire controversy >here. Recent reviews are found elsewhere.(They list these). Rather, here >we commentbriefly on concerns about neurodevelopmental impacts of prenatal >exposure to fluoride. >They also quote many studies such as one on rats that were exposed to >fluoride on days 17-19 of pregnancy showed significant hyperactivity and >another where rats were given fluoride in drinking water during pregnancy >and lactation and had significantly elevated acetylcholinesterase levels >and two reports from China that identified significantly lower childhood >IQs in communities where fluoride expsoure is elevated and one study where >the distrubution of IQ sscores in children in each quartile of fluoride >exposure shifted progressively downward as the fluoride exposures >increased. > Conclusion: >Studies in animals and human populations suggest >that fluoride exposure, at levels that are experienced by a significant >proportion of the population whose drinking water is fluoridated, may have >adverse impacts on the developing brain. Though no final conclusions may >be reached from available data, the findings are provocative and of >significant public health concern. Perhaps most surprising is the relative >sparseness of data addressing the central question of whether or not this >chemical, which is intentionally added to drinking water, may interfere >with normal brain development and function. Focused research should >address this important matter urgently. >Additional sources of fluoride, including topical fluoride treatments, >fluoride tablets, and fluoride toothpaste, add to the total fluoride >burden. >In Harm's Way: Toxic Threats to Child Development, May 2000 >Greater Boston Physicians for Social Responsibility >Chapter 6, pages 90, 91 and 92 > >To download go to >http://www.igc.org/psr/ >or call 617-497-7440 > >Regards, >Sue > > > >Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to >be normal. -- Albert Camus > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2000 Report Share Posted September 22, 2000 There are several different " versions " of fluoride (stannous fluoride, calcium fluoride, etc.). The natural one found in various foods does have some benefits but the one they add to the water supply, toothpaste, etc. is toxic waste. The companies which have to get rid of this byproduct of their manufacutring process pay the ADA and city water districts big bucks to promote it and put it in the water because it saves them money over what they would otherwise have to pay for toxic waste removal! It began with the nuclear weapons industry trying to figure out what to do with this toxic waste byproduct and somebody said stannous fluoride, calcium fluoride... the general public won't know the difference, particularly if we do a bang-up sales job with backing from the medical community. There's a book about the hazards of fluoride by Youyannis (sp?). I don't remember the title at the moment. On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 06:52:59 -0700, egroups wrote: > Hi everyone~ > > Amazing what I didn't know about fluoride! Pasted in below is a post I > received from a friend. I've also found a few others that I'll be sending. > Scary stuff! > > Chris > ========================================= > , > In Physicians for Social Responsibilities report " In Harm's Way, Toxic > Threats to Child Development " there are a few pages devoted to fluoride. > Here are some excerpts: > Since the 1950's, in many communities throughout the US and other areas of > the world, fluoride has been added to community drinking water supplies > with the intention of reducing tooth decay. Controversy about the safety > of that practice centers around concerns about increased risks of tooth > staining, and brittleness (dental fluorosis), bone brittleness (skeletal > fluorosis), bone cancer, hormone disruption (melatonin), premature > puberty, and altered neurological development. > In addition, some critics argue that fluoridating the water supply has a > minimal impact on tooth decay. The practice has been staunchly defended > by the American Dental Association and heralded by the Centers for Disease > Control and Prevention as one of the major public health success stories > of the 20th century. We don not intend to review the entire controversy > here. Recent reviews are found elsewhere.(They list these). Rather, here > we commentbriefly on concerns about neurodevelopmental impacts of prenatal > exposure to fluoride. > They also quote many studies such as one on rats that were exposed to > fluoride on days 17-19 of pregnancy showed significant hyperactivity and > another where rats were given fluoride in drinking water during pregnancy > and lactation and had significantly elevated acetylcholinesterase levels > and two reports from China that identified significantly lower childhood > IQs in communities where fluoride expsoure is elevated and one study where > the distrubution of IQ sscores in children in each quartile of fluoride > exposure shifted progressively downward as the fluoride exposures > increased. > Conclusion: > Studies in animals and human populations suggest > that fluoride exposure, at levels that are experienced by a significant > proportion of the population whose drinking water is fluoridated, may have > adverse impacts on the developing brain. Though no final conclusions may > be reached from available data, the findings are provocative and of > significant public health concern. Perhaps most surprising is the relative > sparseness of data addressing the central question of whether or not this > chemical, which is intentionally added to drinking water, may interfere > with normal brain development and function. Focused research should > address this important matter urgently. > Additional sources of fluoride, including topical fluoride treatments, > fluoride tablets, and fluoride toothpaste, add to the total fluoride > burden. > In Harm's Way: Toxic Threats to Child Development, May 2000 > Greater Boston Physicians for Social Responsibility > Chapter 6, pages 90, 91 and 92 > > To download go to > http://www.igc.org/psr/ > or call 617-497-7440 > > Regards, > Sue > > > > Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to > be normal. -- Albert Camus > > > > _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2000 Report Share Posted October 20, 2000 > > Here's a brief commentary on water fluoridation by Donella Meadows, a very > well-respected ecologist. > > The full article can be found at: > > http://envirolink.netforchange.com/frame.html?page=search.html%3Fcatid%3D10% > 26sourcetype%3Dnews > > Wallinga, M.D. > Director, Antibiotics Resistance Project > Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy (IATP) > 2105 First Avenue South > Minneapolis, MN 55404 > ph 612-870-3418 > fax 612-870-4846 > dwallinga@... > > Scientists, Fluoride Loonies, And the Evidence > By Donella Meadows | posted-10.13.00 | > > Back when I was a chemistry major, my professors told me in no uncertain > terms that water fluoridation is a boon. It prevents millions of children > from getting cavities. People who oppose it are hysterical know-nothings. > > We budding chemists absorbed both the specific and the general lesson. > Fluoride is good. Scientists know best. > > At just that time Carson was questioning scientific wisdom with > regard to another issue: pesticides. I was taught that she was hysterical > too. However as I read more widely and went beyond chemistry to ecology, I > decided she was right. While I continued to respect science greatly, I came > to see that some scientists can be hasty in judgment, narrow in > understanding, out of date, or more loyal to their ideology or source of > income than to the truth. > > But I didn't question fluoride. The consensus was strong. The dentists were > behind it. Toothpaste makers hyped it. Half the nation's cities fluoridate > their water with no obvious ill effect. I classed fluoride opponents with > UFO spotters and horoscope > believers. Loonies. > > I never looked at the evidence. I was thoroughly unscientific......... > > Here, for what they're worth, are some conclusions I drew after my whirlwind > immersion in this contentious topic...... > > Fluoride is toxic.....The fluoride used by municipal water districts comes > from phosphate fertilizer plants in Florida, where it is stripped from > smokestacks to reduce air pollution. It contains not only fluoride, but > heavy metals and other contaminants. If it were not put in > drinking water, it would have to be treated as hazardous waste. > > The epidemiological evidence doesn't seem to be compelling either way... > > Why fluoridate the whole water supply, the millions of gallons with which we > flush toilets and take showers and water lawns, if our only target is > children's teeth? > > Why expose all people to a chemical of arguable benefit and some risk in a > way they can't control? > > Why dump that chemical into water supplies and then sewage plants and then > waterways with almost no understanding of what happens to it after that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2001 Report Share Posted March 17, 2001 Alice, Fluoride is nuclear waste used as rat poison among other things. The nuclear weapons industry had to either pay for toxic waste disposal or find a use for it. One of the studies they presented to the government stated that the men in the group which received fluoride had fewer cavities than the " control " group, but they failed to mention that the men in the fluoride group HAD NO TEETH. The studies had code names and portions of them " mysteriously " disappeared during a court hearing on the subject. Guess which groups offer funding to encourage cities like Sacramento, CA to fluoridate the city water? They reaally push for fluoridation in surrounding communities/suburbs as well for fear of obvious comparison groups so close together geographically. There's a book about fluoride by a dentist named Yuoyannis (sp?) written in the 70s I think so not sure if still available. The nuclear weapons industry pulled a fast one on the public because natural CALCIUM fluoride has beneficial properties but the commonly used stannous fluoride has the above mentioned definition....so they conveniently call it just fluoride. They got the ADA to " buy it " and push it off on innocent bystanders, but we know the ADA has limited regard for human health. S -------------------------------------------------------------- Okay- I'm curious about who has tested for mercury in your water and who you used and what your results were. I found an interesting map on the EPA report that says we live near " mercur y central " (basically the east coastal area of the US) and we are going to have a private test of mercury in our water. Our local water authority doe s not test for mercury and it seems the EPA doesn't require testing on merc ury even though they have a limit standard. We are thinking of installing a reverse osmosis system in our house but wan t to know what our current level is b4 we do that. Also, our pediatrician wants him to continue on fluoride one way or the oth er. I know some one out there has an opinion about fluoride, so please sha re. If you want to share privately, please feel free to. Alice billroman@... *** [This message has been truncated.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 Fluoride is scary stuff...nuclear waste used in rat poison. It's another case of them messing with our minds not really calling stuff what it is...big difference between calcium fluoride (natural with some potential benefits for oral health) and stannous fluoride (toxin). A couple years ago they put a warning on the toothpaste tubes saying if child swallows more than a pea-size amt. to call poison control. They stopped just short of putting the skull and crossbones or Mr. Yuck on the label from what I heard! S ************** actually its toxic waste from Florida phosphate mines, mostly, but it has lots of lead, arsenic, uranium, etc., etc. in it. It is very scary stuff. but even the fluoride is toxic. More so than lead I think based on the ATSDR MRL. also carcinogenic. Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2001 Report Share Posted August 4, 2001 I wish there were some better fluoride-free toothpaste alternatives, in terms of being able to " sell " them to the kids. We were using Tom's silly strawberry for awhile, but I think my guy was reacting to it. I haven't found anything else at the healthfood store that he is willing to use. Colorful labels with action figures would probably help, but alas, the healthfood stuff mostly looks very 'organic' on the outside, as well as in! Suggestions, anyone? I don't dare slack on toothcare at all, as my family (including me) has AWFUL teeth, i.e. lots of dental work and mercury fillings in the past. Both my son and daughter had lots of cavities by age 5 that had to be filled (under general anesthesia for my son :-(). Terri At 07:27 PM 7/8/01 -0400, you wrote: > Fluoride is scary stuff...nuclear waste used in rat poison. It's >another case of them messing with our minds not really calling stuff >what it is...big difference between calcium fluoride (natural with some >potential benefits for oral health) and stannous fluoride (toxin). A >couple years ago they put a warning on the toothpaste tubes saying if >child swallows more than a pea-size amt. to call poison control. They >stopped just short of putting the skull and crossbones or Mr. Yuck on >the label from what I heard! > S >************** > actually its toxic waste from Florida phosphate mines, mostly, but >it has lots of lead, arsenic, uranium, etc., >etc. in it. It is very scary stuff. but even the fluoride is toxic. >More so than lead I think based on the ATSDR >MRL. also carcinogenic. >Bernie > > >======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 Would Fluoride and/or lead be removed in the cooking process? In other words, can I cook with my tap water (containing fluoride). If so, at what temp and for how long? Thanks, Kirsten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 Terri, What we have switched over to is Microhydrin powder from Royal BodyCare. It is called MicroBrite. Before the company offered it I was opening capsules of Microhydrin and putting a small amount of the powder in the palm of my hand and moistening it to make paste. Sorry there are no fancy labels to this one. But it works great. This is the website: www.rbcnow.com. Click on to the products and look at MicroBrite and also look at Microhydrin. This is a MLM company. So for you who have trouble with that concept you have been forwarded. Jan > > Fluoride is scary stuff...nuclear waste used in rat poison. It's > >another case of them messing with our minds not really calling stuff > >what it is...big difference between calcium fluoride (natural with some > >potential benefits for oral health) and stannous fluoride (toxin). A > >couple years ago they put a warning on the toothpaste tubes saying if > >child swallows more than a pea-size amt. to call poison control. They > >stopped just short of putting the skull and crossbones or Mr. Yuck on > >the label from what I heard! > > S > >************** > > actually its toxic waste from Florida phosphate mines, mostly, but > >it has lots of lead, arsenic, uranium, etc., > >etc. in it. It is very scary stuff. but even the fluoride is toxic. > >More so than lead I think based on the ATSDR > >MRL. also carcinogenic. > >Bernie > > > > > >======================================================= > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2001 Report Share Posted August 9, 2001 Kirsten, I don't have a source, do not believe that cooking would remove either, may alter their form in some way. I bet Andy can answer these. If I remember correctly, hair analysis involves burning the hair and studying the ashes, so even that does not burn up the metal toxins. Of course, I don't remember fluoride listed on the hair analyses. S On Wed, 08 August 2001, Eeyoremiami@... wrote: > > <html><body> > <tt> > Would Fluoride and/or lead be removed in the cooking process? & nbsp; In other <BR> > words, can I cook with my tap water (containing fluoride). & nbsp; If so, at what <BR> > temp and for how long?<BR> > <BR> > Thanks,<BR> > Kirsten<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2001 Report Share Posted August 9, 2001 > Would Fluoride and/or lead be removed in the cooking process? No. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2001 Report Share Posted August 9, 2001 Just FWIW. There is bottled, flouridated water sold in the infants formulas section in most stores for babies and toddlers. I thought come on is this really necessary and isn't this dangerous. I know that flourine is a natural source of flouride, but isn't the flouride added to water a souped up mix of chemicals known to be rat poison? kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2002 Report Share Posted August 6, 2002 Hi everyone, What do you think of fluoride, specifically fluoride rinse, and also fluoride toothpaste? The fluoride site that the WAPF site links to focuses on fluoridating water, but doesn't seem to have info on the other two sources of fluoride. I came down with a major dental decay problem last October, so many cavities I lost count, I think around 15, with two root canals. My dentist prescribed a fluoride rinse. At first I was paranoid about the side effects, but later found out the ones they list only happen in children and well it is swallowed. But still, I did it off and on. Soemtiemes I have trouble sleeping when I use it, because you can't drink anything after it for a half hour, and I'm supposed to use it right before bed, and it makes me really thirsty. Also, it sometimes seems to give me a feeling in my bones that I get when I have too much coffee. So I haven't used it for a while. Since my diet before was no meat, lots of soy flour and canola oil, and soy milk instead of milk, and coffee every day, I am counting on my diet changes stopping the dental decay and hoping I don't need the rinse. Does anyone have any opinion on the effectiveness and side effects of these rinses, and also in fluoride toothpaste? Thanks, Chris ____ " What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature. Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the truth, and for those who do them wrong. " --Saint Isaac the Syrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2002 Report Share Posted August 7, 2002 Chris- I can't comment specifically on the fluoride rinse, but earlier this year I lived with someone who was well versed in fluoride issues who said that the toxicity of fluoride is between that of lead and arsenic. If your body doesn't like the fluoride, I'd look up the numerous posts (both recent and many months back) on remineralizing teeth. Search under " remineralization " . -Linnea ----- Original Message ----- From: <ChrisMasterjohn@...> < > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 3:04 PM Subject: fluoride > Hi everyone, > > What do you think of fluoride, specifically fluoride rinse, and also fluoride > toothpaste? The fluoride site that the WAPF site links to focuses on > fluoridating water, but doesn't seem to have info on the other two sources of > fluoride. I came down with a major dental decay problem last October, so > many cavities I lost count, I think around 15, with two root canals. My > dentist prescribed a fluoride rinse. At first I was paranoid about the side > effects, but later found out the ones they list only happen in children and > well it is swallowed. But still, I did it off and on. Soemtiemes I have > trouble sleeping when I use it, because you can't drink anything after it for > a half hour, and I'm supposed to use it right before bed, and it makes me > really thirsty. Also, it sometimes seems to give me a feeling in my bones > that I get when I have too much coffee. So I haven't used it for a while. > Since my diet before was no meat, lots of soy flour and canola oil, and soy > milk instead of milk, and coffee every day, I am counting on my diet changes > stopping the dental decay and hoping I don't need the rinse. > > Does anyone have any opinion on the effectiveness and side effects of these > rinses, and also in fluoride toothpaste? > > Thanks, > Chris > > ____ > > " What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a > heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and > animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of > them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense > compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to > bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature. > Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the > truth, and for those who do them wrong. " > > --Saint Isaac the Syrian > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 - I have read many research on this topic, and am very concerned as a parent. In a practical sense though, what should we as parents do? Obviously, allowing our children to not have good dental hygiene doesn't make sense. But what is a safe regimen for dental hygiene? Should we avoid all toothpaste products containing fluoride, or as some research indicates, just make sure you use only a minimal amount and make sure it is well rinsed out and never swallowed? Maybe just use baking soda? Should we avoid bi-annual trips to the pediatric dentist where they usually use a flouride treatment? Should we have our water levels checked and avoid using flouridated water if that is the case? Against, the advice of my son's dentist, I will not use the overnight flouride treatment they recommend. Needless to say, he had four cavities in his only four permanent molars. Any advice really appreciated. Message: 14 Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 21:22:56 -0500 From: Binstock <binstock@...> Subject: 4: Fluoride, definitions; tin, thyroid, EPA opposition, Town's opposition Someparents whose autistic child is experiencing chelation have asked, Why is his (or her) tin so high? Where's the tin coming from? Fluoride is a source of tin. Perhaps we'll have to investigate fluoride's presence in various products, just as we continue to find additional sources of thimerosal! Since many autism-spectrum children (ASC) have impaired detoxification (as documented by high levels of toxic metals excreted during chelation, as reinforced by the traits-improvements many such children experience during and after chelation), the question arises: Can an autism-spectrum child with impaired detoxification accumulate excessive fluoride or fluoride-related compounds. The answer appears to be Yes. Do I think that fluoride *causes* autism? No. Do I think that fluoride's adverse effects can exacerbate a fetus's, infant's, or toddler's development of autism-spectrum traits? The medical literature presented today suggests that the answer is Yes! Fluoride's effects may be contributing to the immune and neurologic impairments we are seeing as a national epidemic of autism-spectrum disorders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 i don't use toothpaste at all as there are other chemicals in that are absorbed through the gums no. 14 on http://members.tripod.com/mueller_ranges/links/compendium.html i did see someone recommend salt the other day, a pinch of salt on the toothbrush. basically if you go without fluoride you have to cut right back on sugar and proably watch acid fruits drinks to > - I have read many research on this topic, and am very concerned as a > parent. In a practical sense though, what should we as parents do? > Obviously, allowing our children to not have good dental hygiene doesn't > make sense. But what is a safe regimen for dental hygiene? > > Should we avoid all toothpaste products containing fluoride, or as some > research indicates, just make sure you use only a minimal amount and make > sure it is well rinsed out and never swallowed? Maybe just use baking soda? > Should we avoid bi-annual trips to the pediatric dentist where they usually > use a flouride treatment? Should we have our water levels checked and avoid > using flouridated water if that is the case? Against, the advice of my > son's dentist, I will not use the overnight flouride treatment they > recommend. Needless to say, he had four cavities in his only four permanent > molars. > > Any advice really appreciated. > > Message: 14 > Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 21:22:56 -0500 > From: Binstock <binstock@p...> > Subject: 4: Fluoride, definitions; tin, thyroid, EPA opposition, Town's > opposition > > Someparents whose autistic child is experiencing chelation have asked, Why > is > his (or her) tin so high? Where's the tin coming from? Fluoride is a source > of > tin. Perhaps we'll have to investigate fluoride's presence in various > products, > just as we continue to find additional sources of thimerosal! > Since many autism-spectrum children (ASC) have impaired > detoxification > (as documented by high levels of toxic metals excreted during chelation, as > reinforced by the traits-improvements many such children experience during > and > after chelation), the question arises: Can an autism-spectrum child with > impaired detoxification accumulate excessive fluoride or fluoride- related > compounds. The answer appears to be Yes. > Do I think that fluoride *causes* autism? No. Do I think that > fluoride's > adverse effects can exacerbate a fetus's, infant's, or toddler's development > of > autism-spectrum traits? The medical literature presented today suggests that > the > answer is Yes! Fluoride's effects may be contributing to the immune and > neurologic impairments we are seeing as a national epidemic of > autism-spectrum > disorders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 > i did see someone recommend salt the other day, a pinch of salt on the toothbrush. When I was young I used straight baking soda and that is fine for me. Is this okay? I have a hard time finding one I like because most are mint-flavored and mint " stings " my mouth...don't like it. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 > > i did see someone recommend salt the other day, a pinch of salt on > the toothbrush. > > When I was young I used straight baking soda and that is fine for > me. Is this okay? Use a soft toothbrush and don't brush too hard. I wore off the enamel from the front of my two front teeth using baking soda every day. It is very abrasive. My dentist recommended using it only a few days each week, use a soft toothbrush, and a soft touch. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 I'm wondering what you do when you go to the dentist to get your teeth cleaned. I know they would think you are a nut for not wanting fluoride. Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 > Â Â Dentist gets the tooth thing out for fluoride and i say no thank you. dentist says yes. I say no. no reasons. no trying to argue because they can think fast and trick you. if dentist keeps saying i have to have it, i start to get off the chair. dentist says ok and whinges about teeth rotting away but that doesnt matter. 20. Re: Re: Fluoride > Â Â Â Â Â From: " Diane " <ddudzik@...> >I'm wondering what you do when you go to the dentist to get your teeth cleaned. Â I know they would think you are a nut for not wanting fluoride. > >Diane __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2002 Report Share Posted August 10, 2002 > I'm wondering what you do when you go to the dentist to get your teeth cleaned. I know they would think you are a nut for not wanting fluoride. > > Diane > I asked my dentist if he could do cleaning without fluoride. He said he had plain pumice. It is much better tasting than the fluoride stuff too. It has no taste. Trudeau, D.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2002 Report Share Posted August 11, 2002 > I have a hard time finding one I like because most are mint-flavored > and mint " stings " my mouth...don't like it. Tom's of Maine makes a " fennel " flavored one-- not minty! Maybe you have tried it....... I like it okay... Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 > I noticed a few posts back about floride in water being >poisonous. It leads me to wonder, my granddaughters >pediatrician wants her to take floride pills. > Are these too poisonous to her? thanks There is quite a bit of info on this in one of the latter chapters of Weston Price's book NAPD. I was just reading it the other night. Filippa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 I attended a talk on flouride and floridation. I wouldn't touch the stuff with a ten foot pole and i certainly wouldn't give it to a child to ingest!!! It has been proven effective and safe applied topically only to teeth, but you can't get a child not to swallow the stuff. If you live in an area that is floridating the water then you need to not drink the water. The chemicals used in floridation are toxic waste by products from pesticide manufacturing. Cavity prevention comes from good diet. Also, Mothering magazine did a big story a while back showing that mothers carrying a certain cavity-causing bacteria in their mouths can pass it on to their children (through sharing food). According to this article, that was the major culprit in early childhood cavities. Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 All my research (i have 7 books on the subject) leads me to the same conclusion. Chris >From: " Elaine " <itchyink@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: fluoride >Date: 3 Nov 2003 08:20:15 -0800 > >I attended a talk on flouride and floridation. I wouldn't touch the stuff >with a ten foot pole and i certainly wouldn't give it to a child to >ingest!!! It has been proven effective and safe applied topically only to >teeth, but you can't get a child not to swallow the stuff. If you live in >an >area that is floridating the water then you need to not drink the water. >The >chemicals used in floridation are toxic waste by products from pesticide >manufacturing. Cavity prevention comes from good diet. Also, Mothering >magazine did a big story a while back showing that mothers carrying a >certain cavity-causing bacteria in their mouths can pass it on to their >children (through sharing food). According to this article, that was the >major culprit in early childhood cavities. >Elaine > _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 --- In , " Elaine " <itchyink@s...> wrote: > I attended a talk on flouride and floridation. I wouldn't touch the stuff > with a ten foot pole and i certainly wouldn't give it to a child to > ingest!!! Was anyone else forced to participate in the " swish and spit " program at school in the late 70's, early 80's? I despised it, but my mother wouldn't sign a waiver to get me out of it. We had little dixie cups full of fluoride rinse brought into the classroom and we had to... you guessed it... swish it in our mouths and then spit it out! It was absolutely vile! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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