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In a message dated 5/9/2004 12:02:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

shines@... writes:

Thank you for your response. I suppose from the lack of any other responses,

that this is universal? The black marks are no longer present in treatment?

Sally,

Somehow, I think the lack of response was indicative of us, or me, at least,

asking around to others that we knew. I never had any black marks or

bruises......other problems, but not that.

Not a lot of research has been done relative to an association of diabetes

and HCV, but what is known is that people with HCV, or nona-nonb hepatitis have

a higher EtOh lab level than " normal " people do, whether they consume

alcoholic beverages or not. " These readings can be elevated in this particular

type

of " now diagnosed patient " from something as simple as eating fruit for

breakfast without any other glucose, fructose, or sucrose ingestion. It mimics

diabetes without that being the correct diagnosis. " Please don't ask me which

JAMA

article that came out of. At any rate, anybody who wasn't diabetic before

diagnosis, or has a doctor who thinks they might have that in addition to

HCV.......go digging through the journals before you start taking insulin. Next

time

anybody has a question on this, tell them to have the labs rerun after

they've abstained from eating fruit for a few days. Fructose seems to be the

type

of sugar that causes the most deviant results.

Sorry it took me so long to find that info. My files have been a mess since

the old computer crashed and I never have completely gotten them organized. I

tried alphabetizing and that didn't work, obviously.

Anne

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In a message dated 5/9/2004 12:02:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

shines@... writes:

Thank you for your response. I suppose from the lack of any other responses,

that this is universal? The black marks are no longer present in treatment?

Sally,

Somehow, I think the lack of response was indicative of us, or me, at least,

asking around to others that we knew. I never had any black marks or

bruises......other problems, but not that.

Not a lot of research has been done relative to an association of diabetes

and HCV, but what is known is that people with HCV, or nona-nonb hepatitis have

a higher EtOh lab level than " normal " people do, whether they consume

alcoholic beverages or not. " These readings can be elevated in this particular

type

of " now diagnosed patient " from something as simple as eating fruit for

breakfast without any other glucose, fructose, or sucrose ingestion. It mimics

diabetes without that being the correct diagnosis. " Please don't ask me which

JAMA

article that came out of. At any rate, anybody who wasn't diabetic before

diagnosis, or has a doctor who thinks they might have that in addition to

HCV.......go digging through the journals before you start taking insulin. Next

time

anybody has a question on this, tell them to have the labs rerun after

they've abstained from eating fruit for a few days. Fructose seems to be the

type

of sugar that causes the most deviant results.

Sorry it took me so long to find that info. My files have been a mess since

the old computer crashed and I never have completely gotten them organized. I

tried alphabetizing and that didn't work, obviously.

Anne

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In a message dated 5/9/2004 4:41:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

shines@... writes:

experienced the same thing with straight interferon

Dear Sally,

That may be the difference. I took interferon without the ribavirin to begin

with, but I don't remember any black spots; however that has been a lot of

years ago.

Has anybody discussed the idea of a shunt with you? Just a thought. I hate

needles and always have. I didn't miss any shots because of it, but I sure

had to give myself a long talking to, sometimes. If I had to take the daily

insulin shots, I'd be up a creek.

Anne

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In a message dated 5/9/2004 4:41:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

shines@... writes:

experienced the same thing with straight interferon

Dear Sally,

That may be the difference. I took interferon without the ribavirin to begin

with, but I don't remember any black spots; however that has been a lot of

years ago.

Has anybody discussed the idea of a shunt with you? Just a thought. I hate

needles and always have. I didn't miss any shots because of it, but I sure

had to give myself a long talking to, sometimes. If I had to take the daily

insulin shots, I'd be up a creek.

Anne

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