Re: (unknown)

[Guest guest]

I'm so sorry ne of the troubles you are having. Are the children

going to their fathers temporarily? Have you seen the Dr. sense you

started having the seizures? I'm glad the weeping has stopped in your

legs. Do you think the predisone was causing that to happen? My heart

goes out to you. You will be in my prayers.

Love Helen

> I'm having kind of a rough time right now. My car died about 3 weeks ago.

> It's 13 yrs old & not worth fixing. About 2 weeks ago, I started having

> small seizures- not grand mal- but scary!! , my 14 yr old &

,

> my 10 yr old, are leaving on Friday to go live with their dad. They will

be

> 800 miles away. , the 12 yr old, wants to stay with me. I don't

feel

> that I can take care of them anymore. My Dr says I do not have auto

immune

> hepatitis but I do have an autoimmune " disorder " , whatever that means. I

am

> down to 10 mgm/day of Prednisone so the swelling in my legs is a lot

better,

> at least they're not weeping anymore. To top everything off- I AM GETTING

> LIVER SPOTS ON MY HANDS & ARMS!!!!!!! So now I look like a humpbacked,

> hairy basketball with SPOTS!! LOL

> Love y'all ne

[Guest guest]

Maureen,

Thanks for your symphany and your thoughs. It's okay to be sorry.

>From: MRASMUS@...

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>Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:11:16 EST

>

>,

>

>Sending my sympathies to you on the death of your grandfather. I'm so

>sorry,

>

>Maureen

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Dear Corny,

Well, he must have sold it because he got it November 5, 1999.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

(unknown)

> Saul

> I talked to Dr. Porter in Glendale about 6 weeks ago. He said he does

> not have an ozone generator. Has he since purchased one from you?

>

> Corny

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#4

My daughter and I collect angels. She wants to do her room over with angels.

We pick up different kinds of angels. I don't really believe in God per say

but I do strongly belieeve in angels. I had posted in a letter before about

bells ringing and angels getting their wings....you should hear my house

around Christmas!!!

Hope you day has gone well

love

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/4/00 8:07:59 PM Central Standard Time,

rbutt62129@... writes:

<< #4

My daughter and I collect angels. She wants to do her room over with

angels.

We pick up different kinds of angels. I don't really believe in God per

say

but I do strongly belieeve in angels. I had posted in a letter before about

bells ringing and angels getting their wings....you should hear my house

around Christmas!!!

Hope you day has gone well

love >>

,

Have you ever heard of the collection of Seraphin angels? I think they

are made of porcelin (?) but my friend collects them and they are

BEAUTIFUL!!!!

^,,^

>:<

**** @lison

^,,^

>:<

**** @lison

[Guest guest]

(unknown)

> A 77 year old friend needs suggestions for how best to deal with a heart

> blood vessel aneurism. I have suggested high quality vit E supplements

> (with palm oil tocotrienels) along with natural vit C supplementation.

>

> Any other comparatively low expense ideas?

>

> Thanks, Corny

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Dear Corny,

Lemon juice in black tea.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

[Guest guest]

Mike,

IF someone has high blood pressure vitamin E can elevate it before it

drops back down. I would be cautious administering it to an elderly

patient who has not been on it, especially if he is already dealing with

an aneurism.

jim

Mike E Cornwall wrote:

>

> A 77 year old friend needs suggestions for how best to deal with a heart

> blood vessel aneurism. I have suggested high quality vit E supplements

> (with palm oil tocotrienels) along with natural vit C supplementation.

>

> Any other comparatively low expense ideas?

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[Guest guest]

I had a friend who suffered a brain aneurysm and used IV EDTA chelation to

release the blood and return the ballooned vessel to normalcy. She lived in

Chincoteague, Md., but I don't recall her name. She took chelation from Dr.

Beals, who has chelation clinics in Laurel, Md. and Washington, D. C.,

an excellent doctor. M

[Guest guest]

Liz,

My advice is to see the endo ASAP. Don't let this go for 3 months. Do you

best to find a doc that can see you sooner. I was seen within 3 days once

it was determined that I was hyper.

Good luck and please educate yourself!!!!!!

K

(unknown)

>Greetings from a new hyperT. I just found out this site and hope I

>can learn great advice from you.

>

>I started some feeling of heart palpitation three weeks ago, my

>doctor did blood test and told me I am hyperT. My TSH is 0.03, and T7

>is 135. I don't remember T3 and T4, but they are both higher than

>normal. My heart beat is not too bad, around 80/min, but the

>irregular heart beats make me uncomfortable. Doc. gave me Prophanol

>(Beta blocker) to lighten my symptom. I was also referred to see an

>Endocrinologist, but my appointment will not be available until 3

>months later.

>

>My questions to you is what I shall do in the meantime to combat the

>hyperT? I heard yoga is good for hyperT and soy product is bad for

>it (I learn these from reading the web), so I am following these

>advice. Shall I take any vitamin/mineral supplement now? If so,

>what kind? My main symptom is the irregulate and sometime pounding

>heart beat, and often hungry. I don't have portuded eyes and no

>goiter, either. Shall I see the specialist sooner than three months

>later?

>

>Thank you all for your help.

>

>Liz

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dawn,

Here's the goitrogen list I included in my book.

Members of the Brassica family: broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, kohlrabi

Non-Brassica family:turnips, mustard greens, pears, kale, spinach peaches and

almonds

Cyanoglucosides: cassava, maize, bamboo shoots, sweet potatoes and lima beans.

Soy is not really a goitrogen although it has two separate actions which

inhibit thyroid hormone synthesis so it has the same effect.

Most gotirogens work by blocking iodine absorption and monovalent ions such

as lithium, fluoride, chloride, bromide, etc. will also block iodine uptake.

[Guest guest]

Hi Elaine, thanks very much for the goitrogen list. I have seen chloride

mentioned several times before, you mention it as a monovalent ion. If I

understand this correctly chloride will benefit hyperT people?

Does swimming in a chlorine pool help then?, or is this an entirely

different substance? I used to swim a kilometre a day, five days a week.

for about 18 months in a big old outdoor chlorine/salt pool in Sydney. Do

you know if this would have helped or hindered my condition as a hyperT?

Can't do it at the moment as I am too tired and have no muscles, REALLY miss

my muscles!!!

Thanks,

Dawn the muscle-less!

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>hyperthyroidismegroups

>Subject: Re: (unknown)

>Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:13:12 EST

>

>Dawn,

>Here's the goitrogen list I included in my book.

>Members of the Brassica family: broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, kohlrabi

>Non-Brassica family:turnips, mustard greens, pears, kale, spinach peaches

>and

>almonds

>Cyanoglucosides: cassava, maize, bamboo shoots, sweet potatoes and lima

>beans.

>

>Soy is not really a goitrogen although it has two separate actions which

>inhibit thyroid hormone synthesis so it has the same effect.

>

>Most gotirogens work by blocking iodine absorption and monovalent ions such

>as lithium, fluoride, chloride, bromide, etc. will also block iodine

>uptake.

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Hi Dawn,

Chlorine in water is known to displace iodine but I haven't read anything

about chlorine absorbed through the skin except for a small report about a

year ago. I haven't read anything about the other ions inducing GD, rather

they cause hypoT.

Most of the latest studies I've read have focused on the hypoT effects of

fluoride. Whatever, swimming in a heated pool sounds like it would help

anything.

[Guest guest]

4,

Hi hon. My ex-mother in law is a big angel collector, she has some really

ugly ones (lol) but most of hers are just beautiful. I've recently started

collecting them, too, but I don't have more than just a few yet. I don't really

care what kind they are, but I look

for ones that show angels with little boys in particular.

*hugs*

folchel@... wrote:

> Good Morning!!!

>

> Hope all is well, where ever you are. I was just wondering if anyone

> here collects angels like I do? I don't know exactly why, but, I am

> drawn to them.

>

> Ever since I went to this store that sells angels last weekend, I

> have had the need to go back there and get some of them. So guess

> what I am going to be doing today. Yes, I am going back to that

> store and take another look.

>

> It is my fathers birthday today so I am also off to see him and my

> mother...I should get there just in time to have lunch with

> them.:) Of course, I had that planned.

>

> Feel free to e-mail me privately if you need to.

>

> My Love and prayers to all of you,

>

> #4

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I believe it's *Manga*.

Terry

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>Verne,

>

>I wonder if showing a copy of a Canadian study, the Magna Report, would

>douse their fire. Magna came up wit some fantastic conclusions for the

>chiropractic profession.

>

> DeSiena, D.C

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[Guest guest]

Vicki,

That's interesting!! Sounds like L. Ron Hubbard might have been Type O like the rest of us.

Kathleen

[Guest guest]

Yes we have seen the Seraphin Angels. In fact last Christmas my Aunt had

gotten one for my mother. You're right, they are very beautiful.

Love

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I am a victim of this virus, may be from the email you mentioned. Beware,

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I would love to have this information also.

(unknown)

> Could anyone tell me how to know if I am buying a good quality essential

> oil. I was looking around at some different suppliers tonight and I

noticed

> a huge difference in some of the prices from company to company. Could

these

> cheaper ones possibly be adulterated. How would I know?

>

> If someone could give me some tips on buying eo's I would really

appreciate

> it. I know the general rule is you get what you pay for but how do you

know

> what you should be paying?

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> Could anyone tell me how to know if I am buying a good quality essential

> oil. I was looking around at some different suppliers tonight and I

noticed

> a huge difference in some of the prices from company to company. Could

these

> cheaper ones possibly be adulterated. How would I know?

>

> If someone could give me some tips on buying eo's I would really

appreciate

> it. I know the general rule is you get what you pay for but how do you

know

> what you should be paying?

>

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Mike E Cornwall wrote:Jim

> why not take your " poor man's " ozonator plans a few steps farther.

>

> Purchase a flow meter, such as the one made by Key Instruments in the

> Grainger catalog ($73 for the stainless unit). Put it in-line at the pvc

> tube end, connect an outlet tube at the out-flow end of the meter with a

> funnel attached at the end of that line and, PRESTO, we have a " poor

> man's " medical ozone unit.

>

> And/or, purchase a personal " air bag " that athlete's and others use for

> HBOT treatment, connect the ozonator to that, yielding a " poor man's "

> ozone sauna.

>

> Your thoughts?

>

> Corny

I don't think you need the flow meter to regulate a drip of ozone.

That is what the spa generators put out, which is no where close to

being in the same category as medical.

If you do some digging, you can make a good unit yourself for about

the same price as a flow meter, not counting the oxygen source. It

will take a little engineering on your part.

Dick

[Guest guest]

Hi Nikki!

Congratulations on making the decision to embark on your journey.

You ask:

<<I was wondering what would be the best way for you all to keep me

accountable to the program??>>

I recommend writing down your goals and the reasons why you want to change.

After you do, post them here. The simple action of letting others know what

you are committing yourself to, will help add incentive to staying on track.

After that, each day if you want, you can report here. You can mention any

obstacles you ran into, any triumphs you had, and any new questions that

occurred to you. There are so many encouraging and knowledgeable people here

that without a doubt, you will discover still more encouragement and answers

in the process.

I should mention that you will run into obstacles. That's part of the process

for all of us. If you want the best, single piece of advice that I can offer

on how to make this program succeed, mine would be: if you slip, or run into

an unexpected problem, or feel disappointed - keep going. " Turn adversity

into energy. " Don't let one disappointment grow into a cloud that overpowers

your sunlight. Problems are part of life and of every great effort. If you

fall off the horse, get right back in the saddle - and you'll be back on your

way!

<<I also have another question: is it necessary to wait one hour after

my work-out to eat?>>

That's the best way to promote rapid fat-burning. I recommend working out

first thing in the morning, then waiting an hour to eat your first meal. Some

people do this on aerobic days only, then on weight-training days work out

later in the day. Still, if you can manage it, working out every day first

thing, then waiting an hour to eat, will produce the speediest fat-burning

results. It's also a terrific habit to form, because it makes exercise a top

priority. You will carry with you throughout the day, the pride in knowing

that you've already achieved something wonderful. (It also wakes you up,

physically and psychologically, like nothing else!)

The reason this approach burns fat so well, is that your body will be in a

fasted state. So your body will have no " choice " but to draw upon stored fat

for energy. Also, when you do the 20 minute aerobic solution, the variation

in intensity revs up the metabolism in a a way that will continue burning fat

*after* your workout. Eating sooner would lessen the effect.

<<I think a stummbling block for me on the

other attempts was that I couldn't get 6 meals a day in>>

<< I felt like I was eating too much (too many calories),>>

Were you restricting your meals to foods that are on the " Authorized Foods "

list in the book? And were you following the portion rules? If so, the

calories should have been about right. Your body needs the frequent, small

meals in order for this program to work. One of the myths that diet fads have

popularized, is the idea that " starvation " is a good way to " lose weight. " In

reality, severe dieting causes muscle loss and a " fat defending " state that

slows the metabolism. Such " starvation " promotes such raving hunger that

people eventually overeat to compensate, putting on more fat than they lost,

plus more. So although it may seem counter-intuitive, you need those six

meals per day. You need them in order to keep your metabolism running high,

your body and muscles nourished, and your fat burning rapidly.

<<or my fifth and sixth meals fell later in the evening (like just before

bed). What do

I do about that?>>

One of the keys to success is planning. Set aside five minutes each evening

to plan your exercise and meals for the next day. Plan the time you will

exercise, what your exercise will consist of. For weight training days, also

plan how much weight you will lift. Plan when you will eat your meals, and

specify what you will eat. Think about what your day's schedule will involve,

so that you can select portable foods for those times when you will be on the

run. And space your meals 2-3 hours apart, watching to make sure that the

spacing will allow you to eat your last meal reasonably earlier than bed time.

One key to success is learning to direct your life, rather than letting your

life direct you. The simple strategy of taking 5 minutes each night to plan

the next day works wonders in this respect.

You can also visit the official Body-for-LIFE Web site at

www.bodyforlife.com, where you will find answers to questions, video

demonstrations of proper exercise form, Success Stories, authorized recipes

and more. I know that when my wife and I started the program, the Web site

proved to be a terrific help.

Another thing to ask is this: how long ago did you read the book? It might be

a great idea to re-read it. Even having implemented the program for more than

a year, I've re-read the book a couple of times. And I always look forward to

reading it the next time. It always provides a matchless " shot of

inspiration. " It explains the essence and meaning of the program like nothing

else. With each re-reading, I find that I learn new things. Though presented

simply, the content of the book compresses a wealth of real-life experience.

I find that relating my new found experience to the book's content produces

new insights with each reading - which is a real credit to the book's depth.

Another terrific source is Hussman's unofficial support site, " Why the

Body-for-LIFE Program Works, " at www.hussman.com/eas. It explores several

aspects of the science behind the program. Bill ' own book omits much

of this for the sake of simplicity. The site includes the title essay,

frequently asked questions, and more. It offers some thoughts about checking

calorie consumption that might interest you. It think the information can be

quite helpful. But given that you have limited time, and given the need to

focus on basics rather than technical details, you should be aware that

studying the material at the Hussman site may be less " urgent " for you than

learning the fundamentals in the book and at the www.bodyforlife.com Web site.

Again, congratulations on starting your journey, Nikki, and again, welcome to

the group!

Energetically,

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In a message dated 26-Nov-00 12:17:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, zingazah@... writes:

I was wondering what would be the best way for you all to keep me accountable to the program??

I also have another question: is it necessary to wait one hour after my work-out to eat? And, I think a stummbling block for me on the other attempts was that I couldn't get 6 meals a day in - either I felt like I was eating too much (too many calories), or my fifth and sixth meals fell later in the evening (like just before bed). What do I do about that?

To keep you accountable, check in with the group each week telling us how your week went. Be honest about your nutrition intake, your workouts, and how you feel. Also inform us of your progress, no matter how small you think it is. This program is about progress, not perfection. It's really hard to change your whole life around in 12 weeks. But you can do it.

Best results come from waiting an hour after exercise to eat. I wouldn't short change yourself. You can't expect the program to give you maximum results if you don't follow it to a "T". You are worth everything doing this program will give you.

If you don't like eating so close to bed time then move your meals from 3 hours apart to 2 1/2 or 2 hours between meals.

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>VIRUS...

>

>love,

>

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