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April ~

We would absolutely love your story

too so as to help us speak the truth !

Thank you ~ Hugs DedeStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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thanks for sharing that link. I cannot believe the FDA allows these things on the market.

I have been needing to vent lately and this has just topped it off. It is frustrating that when I was looking into getting impants (which was about 5 yrs), I never came across very many negative website. It's not like I woke up one day and decided to go get them. I researched and talked to several PS. Apparently I was not looking in the right place. Now, I will admit that I was looking for more of the recommended surgeons and photo's of cosmetic results. I also looked for personal stories. This lead me to s Website where there seemed to be about all the info anyone could use when considering getting them. I did try to look into getting sick afterwards or related illnesses with implants. Never once did I come across anything that made me feel like they would make me and others sick. It seemed the main concern

with implants is a low rate of infection, capsular contractors and a low chance of a few other problems. Nothing ever seemed like a red flag to me.

I find myself in a bath full of guilt right now and hope that with time and knowledge this feeling will pass. When I started to notice things going on with me that just did not seem right (about 6 months after implants) I went to "illness after saline breast implants" and the second things was Patty's website. I wonder how I could not have come across it during my long research process. Maybe becaue all I was looking for was postivie things!!!???!!! It was right infront of me and I never noticed it.

I guess I just wish (as I am sure many of you do) that there is a way to really get the word out to help protect so many other woman. However, when I thought about getting them, I was not thinking about negative things associated with them. The were suppose to be safe!!!!

I have thought alot about Krista and PH's comments recently about why we feel the need and pressure of getting them - divorce, weight gain, men, ect.... I agree so much with what they said and I feel that most of the pressue comes from the media and hollywood. The idea of a average body is one like what you see walking the red carpet. That is anything but average. I think the wrong message is being sent out to everyone, more so to young woman. I think that is one contributing factor to eating disorders, the way we dress and at some times the way people live above and beyond their financial means. There are all kinds of peer pressure and unfortunalety it can start as young as the toddler years. I notice it in my young son when he has play dates. Anyone who has ever seen 2 and 3 yr olds play together can see how one

is more of the leader and one the follower and what one does so does the other. Then I think it just becomes a cycle when you start to admire things and people for the wrong reasons - looks and not what is inside and makes someone a "good" person.

OK, I am done with my vent - it is just frustrating that as advanced as America and other countries are and there is no "proof" of implants causing illnesses but there are so many people affected by them. Does anyone think it will ever change??? Will they ever achknowledge the risk of implants???

Much Love,

Beth

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://implants. clic.net/ tony/Smoke/ 4.html

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thanks for sharing that link. I cannot believe the FDA allows these things on the market.

I have been needing to vent lately and this has just topped it off. It is frustrating that when I was looking into getting impants (which was about 5 yrs), I never came across very many negative website. It's not like I woke up one day and decided to go get them. I researched and talked to several PS. Apparently I was not looking in the right place. Now, I will admit that I was looking for more of the recommended surgeons and photo's of cosmetic results. I also looked for personal stories. This lead me to s Website where there seemed to be about all the info anyone could use when considering getting them. I did try to look into getting sick afterwards or related illnesses with implants. Never once did I come across anything that made me feel like they would make me and others sick. It seemed the main concern

with implants is a low rate of infection, capsular contractors and a low chance of a few other problems. Nothing ever seemed like a red flag to me.

I find myself in a bath full of guilt right now and hope that with time and knowledge this feeling will pass. When I started to notice things going on with me that just did not seem right (about 6 months after implants) I went to "illness after saline breast implants" and the second things was Patty's website. I wonder how I could not have come across it during my long research process. Maybe becaue all I was looking for was postivie things!!!???!!! It was right infront of me and I never noticed it.

I guess I just wish (as I am sure many of you do) that there is a way to really get the word out to help protect so many other woman. However, when I thought about getting them, I was not thinking about negative things associated with them. The were suppose to be safe!!!!

I have thought alot about Krista and PH's comments recently about why we feel the need and pressure of getting them - divorce, weight gain, men, ect.... I agree so much with what they said and I feel that most of the pressue comes from the media and hollywood. The idea of a average body is one like what you see walking the red carpet. That is anything but average. I think the wrong message is being sent out to everyone, more so to young woman. I think that is one contributing factor to eating disorders, the way we dress and at some times the way people live above and beyond their financial means. There are all kinds of peer pressure and unfortunalety it can start as young as the toddler years. I notice it in my young son when he has play dates. Anyone who has ever seen 2 and 3 yr olds play together can see how one

is more of the leader and one the follower and what one does so does the other. Then I think it just becomes a cycle when you start to admire things and people for the wrong reasons - looks and not what is inside and makes someone a "good" person.

OK, I am done with my vent - it is just frustrating that as advanced as America and other countries are and there is no "proof" of implants causing illnesses but there are so many people affected by them. Does anyone think it will ever change??? Will they ever achknowledge the risk of implants???

Much Love,

Beth

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://implants. clic.net/ tony/Smoke/ 4.html

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yes I would love to. If I can help even 1 person - it is worth it. Everyone on this site is wonderful and I am so very thankful I found it.

Let me know where to send my story and I will work on getting it put together. Also - is it somthing you can update as time goes and we start to heal???

Where can I go to view others stories????

Much Love,

Beth

Re: (unknown)

Beth ~

will you write your story so we can post it to our group

and on Ilena's site, and on Gretchens and Rosies sites,

and other informative sites???

It will help alot !

Let me know ~ Thankyou ~ Hugs and Prayers ~ Dede

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yes I would love to. If I can help even 1 person - it is worth it. Everyone on this site is wonderful and I am so very thankful I found it.

Let me know where to send my story and I will work on getting it put together. Also - is it somthing you can update as time goes and we start to heal???

Where can I go to view others stories????

Much Love,

Beth

Re: (unknown)

Beth ~

will you write your story so we can post it to our group

and on Ilena's site, and on Gretchens and Rosies sites,

and other informative sites???

It will help alot !

Let me know ~ Thankyou ~ Hugs and Prayers ~ Dede

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" It is frustrating that when I was looking into getting impants (which

was about 5 yrs), I never came across very many negative website. It's

not like I woke up one day and decided to go get them. I researched

and talked to several PS. Apparently I was not looking in the right

place. Now, I will admit that I was looking for more of the

recommended surgeons and photo's of cosmetic results. I also looked

for personal stories. This lead me to s Website where there

seemed to be about all the info anyone could use when considering

getting them. I did try to look into getting sick afterwards or

related illnesses with implants. Never once did I come across anything

that made me feel like they would make me and others sick. It seemed

the main concern with implants is a low rate of infection, capsular

contractors and a low chance of a few other problems. Nothing ever

seemed like a red flag to me. "

Wow Beth, I can so relate to what you said. I researched heavily for a

year before getting mine. I also frequented 's website. She

seemed to project a sense that the website was " balanced " but it was

far from it. I can remember women posting on the forum trying to warn

others that the implants were dangerous. The women on the forum would

just pounce on them and say how they were crazy. Unfortunately I

believed them. I thought there was just a handful of women who had

problems and that they were just blaming their own health problems on

their implants - and that if the implants did have anything to do w/it,

it's b/c they were silicon, not saline. Like you, I wanted to believe

they were ok so I know that I gravitated towards all the positive

information. I read and read stories of women who were happy with

their implants. That's what gave me the courage to go through with it

myself.

I did read the FDA literature (that was actually available at the

time). All I found, too, were risks of infection, cc, etc. I remember

printing out pages of information and my husband and I would sit

reading through it all, weighing what we thought were " all " the pros

and cons. It seemed like a reasonable risk to take. Based on the info

that was readily available to me, the benefits seemed to outweigh the

risks. I wish I had been more diligent and had had more of an open

mind to really hear what " those women " were saying. Little did I know

that a few years later I'd be one of them! ) Well, I'd much rather

be on this side of the issue than still over there in la-la land!

Thanks again to all of you for having the guts to voice the truth! You

DO make a difference!

[Guest guest]

" It is frustrating that when I was looking into getting impants (which

was about 5 yrs), I never came across very many negative website. It's

not like I woke up one day and decided to go get them. I researched

and talked to several PS. Apparently I was not looking in the right

place. Now, I will admit that I was looking for more of the

recommended surgeons and photo's of cosmetic results. I also looked

for personal stories. This lead me to s Website where there

seemed to be about all the info anyone could use when considering

getting them. I did try to look into getting sick afterwards or

related illnesses with implants. Never once did I come across anything

that made me feel like they would make me and others sick. It seemed

the main concern with implants is a low rate of infection, capsular

contractors and a low chance of a few other problems. Nothing ever

seemed like a red flag to me. "

Wow Beth, I can so relate to what you said. I researched heavily for a

year before getting mine. I also frequented 's website. She

seemed to project a sense that the website was " balanced " but it was

far from it. I can remember women posting on the forum trying to warn

others that the implants were dangerous. The women on the forum would

just pounce on them and say how they were crazy. Unfortunately I

believed them. I thought there was just a handful of women who had

problems and that they were just blaming their own health problems on

their implants - and that if the implants did have anything to do w/it,

it's b/c they were silicon, not saline. Like you, I wanted to believe

they were ok so I know that I gravitated towards all the positive

information. I read and read stories of women who were happy with

their implants. That's what gave me the courage to go through with it

myself.

I did read the FDA literature (that was actually available at the

time). All I found, too, were risks of infection, cc, etc. I remember

printing out pages of information and my husband and I would sit

reading through it all, weighing what we thought were " all " the pros

and cons. It seemed like a reasonable risk to take. Based on the info

that was readily available to me, the benefits seemed to outweigh the

risks. I wish I had been more diligent and had had more of an open

mind to really hear what " those women " were saying. Little did I know

that a few years later I'd be one of them! ) Well, I'd much rather

be on this side of the issue than still over there in la-la land!

Thanks again to all of you for having the guts to voice the truth! You

DO make a difference!

[Guest guest]

Thanks Dede - once I get one together I will forward it so it can be posted.

Re: (unknown)

Beth ~

Yes, it can be updated at any time.

Thank you for helping ! ! I see Patty

gave you the addresses to send your

story to, there is one more place I know

of: POST YOUR STORY - Message Board - ezboard.com

http://p102. ezboard.com/ fimplantinformat ionnetworkfrm9.

Here is my story if you would like to ck it out:

http://humanticsfou ndation.com/ dede.htm

Thank you ! !

Hugs Dede

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Thanks Dede - once I get one together I will forward it so it can be posted.

Re: (unknown)

Beth ~

Yes, it can be updated at any time.

Thank you for helping ! ! I see Patty

gave you the addresses to send your

story to, there is one more place I know

of: POST YOUR STORY - Message Board - ezboard.com

http://p102. ezboard.com/ fimplantinformat ionnetworkfrm9.

Here is my story if you would like to ck it out:

http://humanticsfou ndation.com/ dede.htm

Thank you ! !

Hugs Dede

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Good idea - I think many doctors don't even KNOW what a doctors duties should be.

Luv - Sheila

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I might just print out that GMC list of doctors' duties in case I feel the need to show it my GP one day

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Hi Simon

Saliva testing has been used in scientific testing for decades and has been shown to be highly accurate. It is the most reliable way to measure free, bioavailable hormone activity -those hormones actually doing their job at the cell level. Standard blood and urine tests do not measure bioavailable hormone levels. Numerous scientific studies have shown a strong correlation between the levels of steroid hormones in the blood stream and the bio-available levels of steroid hormones in saliva. The World Health Organization has used this method of hormone testing in worldwide comparisons of hormone levels among women living in industrialized vs. non-industrialised countries. In addition, saliva hormone testing more accurately reflects tissue uptake and response of hormones delivered through the skin in creams, gels, or patches than do blood or urine tests.

Luv - Sheila

..Thanks, that's sounds like good advice: I'm due to see the dietician on Wednesday, which happens to be in the same block as diabetes & endocrinology, so I shall pay a friendly visit to the endo's secretary whilst I'm there.What's the difference between a salivary and a urine adrenal test, by the way?Simon

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Beth ~

Wonderful ! ! Thankyou ! I feel the more

stories the better and quicker the truth can

be told.

We have no monetary purpose in getting the

truth out there, only kindness, and paying it

forward, helping save lives. Saving one person

from implant illness saves their whole family from

pain and loss. Implant illness is hard on the whole

family, and can cause so much loss........

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Beth ~

Wonderful ! ! Thankyou ! I feel the more

stories the better and quicker the truth can

be told.

We have no monetary purpose in getting the

truth out there, only kindness, and paying it

forward, helping save lives. Saving one person

from implant illness saves their whole family from

pain and loss. Implant illness is hard on the whole

family, and can cause so much loss........

Hugs DedeStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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Hi,

This is a hoax that's been floating around since 2004. If you want to read more

about it just go to snopes.com and put in starbucks under search.

Rich

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GUESS I WONT BE DRINKING STARBUCKS ANY MORE!!!!!

Recently Marines in Iraq wrote to Starbucks because they wanted to

let them know how much they liked their coffees and to request that they

send some of it to the troops there. Starbucks replied, telling the Marines

thank you for their support of their business, but that Starbucks does not

support the war, nor anyone in it, and that they would not send the troops

their

brand of coffee.

So as not to offend Starbucks, maybe we should not support them by

buying any of their products! I feel we should get this out in the open. I

know this war might not be very popular with some folks, but that doesn't

mean we don't support the boys on the ground fighting street -to-street and

house-to-house.

If you feel the same as I do then pass this along, or you can

discard it and no one will never know.

Thanks very much for your support. I know you'll all be there again when I

deploy once more.

Semper Fidelis.

Sgt. C.

1st Force Recon Co

1st Plt PLT

PLEASE DON'T DELETE THIS . . ALLOW IT TO BE

PASSED TO ALL IN MEMORY OF ALL THE TROOPS WHO HAVE DIED SO THAT WE MAY HAVE

THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE TO SUPPORT THEM OR NOT! ! !

Also, don't forget that when the Twin Trade Towers were hit the fire

fighters and rescue workers went to Starbucks because it was close by for

water for

the survivors and workers and Starbucks charged them! ! !

JUST A NOTE TO THIS; STARBUCKS HAD STORES ON SEVERAL MILITARY BASES IN THE

UNITED STATES. THEY ARE NOW BEING REMOVED BECAUSE OF THIS. GO GET 'EM AMERICA .

STAND-UP FOR OURSELVES!

Tammy R. Ehrlich

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Not to discourage the once a month but if you can do it more, then do.

It takes more than once a month to break into a kid with autism’s world.

It took Daddy 3 days of being home solid for to acknowledge him in

his world and now he is just barely staying, by the skin of his teeth.

He gives a Hershey’s kiss every time goes up to him….. I

wish we had all the money in the world so papa could stay home and stay

in ’s world.

We have a friend who has been with us on a regular basis since was

born.. she’s barely in his world too esp. since she’s not been over too

much in the last 6 months.

But I too encourage anyone living near a neighbor or has a friend with a

child w/ autism.. help out. We need the break.

Nita, Mom to: 14, Jon 13, 10, 8, 6, Christian

(7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac due Feb. 08

Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long

enough to make them all yourself.

PS: AND **especially** if the kid is sick. ’s had a cold for the

last 3 weeks and it has been nearly unbearable to have a sick kid with

autism.. you might not like mixed remedy solutions but those boiron

camilia drops are my lifesaver! They work for more than just

teething!

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Wow! I.m excited to hear that is sharing. If your husband wants to get

into 's world a little quicker and easier, I would recommend Alan

Greenspan's Floortime. That's what broke the ice for my husband. Three years

into it and no sharing yet, unfortunately. My son is a classic case of

non-verbal moderate autism. It takes years for the smallest accomplishments when

it comes to interactive and social learning...Anita

Venita Garner <nitagarner@...> wrote: Not to discourage the once a

month but if you can do it more, then do.

It takes more than once a month to break into a kid with autism’s world.

It took Daddy 3 days of being home solid for to acknowledge him in

his world and now he is just barely staying, by the skin of his teeth.

He gives a Hershey’s kiss every time goes up to him….. I

wish we had all the money in the world so papa could stay home and stay

in ’s world.

We have a friend who has been with us on a regular basis since was

born.. she’s barely in his world too esp. since she’s not been over too

much in the last 6 months.

But I too encourage anyone living near a neighbor or has a friend with a

child w/ autism.. help out. We need the break.

Nita, Mom to: 14, Jon 13, 10, 8, 6, Christian

(7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac due Feb. 08

Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long

enough to make them all yourself.

PS: AND **especially** if the kid is sick. ’s had a cold for the

last 3 weeks and it has been nearly unbearable to have a sick kid with

autism.. you might not like mixed remedy solutions but those boiron

camilia drops are my lifesaver! They work for more than just

teething!

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Oh my goodness, I meant Stanley Greenspan. What would Alan know about it...Anita

Venita Garner <nitagarner@...> wrote: Not to discourage the once a

month but if you can do it more, then do.

It takes more than once a month to break into a kid with autism’s world.

It took Daddy 3 days of being home solid for to acknowledge him in

his world and now he is just barely staying, by the skin of his teeth.

He gives a Hershey’s kiss every time goes up to him….. I

wish we had all the money in the world so papa could stay home and stay

in ’s world.

We have a friend who has been with us on a regular basis since was

born.. she’s barely in his world too esp. since she’s not been over too

much in the last 6 months.

But I too encourage anyone living near a neighbor or has a friend with a

child w/ autism.. help out. We need the break.

Nita, Mom to: 14, Jon 13, 10, 8, 6, Christian

(7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac due Feb. 08

Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long

enough to make them all yourself.

PS: AND **especially** if the kid is sick. ’s had a cold for the

last 3 weeks and it has been nearly unbearable to have a sick kid with

autism.. you might not like mixed remedy solutions but those boiron

camilia drops are my lifesaver! They work for more than just

teething!

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YK I read that and thought ‘hmmm. I didn’t know he was into autistic

stuff.. guess he changed career fields” lol

Am looking into all the different therapies so I’m sure I’ll come across

him soon

Nita, Mom to: 14, Jon 13, 10, 8, 6, Christian

(7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac due Feb. 08

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Jeff,

First, KC, thanks for posting this because it keeps us informed with

what is being said.

Jeff, I'm glad you already responded as I just got home and was

trying to figure out how to respond and still keep some semblance of

professionalism. You said much better than what I was about to write.

A lot of it sounds good, some is actually accurate but it's hard to

separate that from the bad, which is very time consuming.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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> K.C.

>

> I know that you only posted this for info but there is something I'd like to

> clear up because you hear people speaking about it.

>

> There is no such thing as " Penicillium/Aspergillus. " And Cladosporium is

> certainly not a by-product of Penicillium/Aspergillus. Whoever wrote this

> did a lot of copying and had a good imagination.

>

> Because Penicillium and Aspergillus spores cannot be distinguished using a

> microscope, we in the profession refer to small spores that could be either

> genus as Pen/Asp and count them together. This is like counting children

> from afar and giving the counts in Boy/Girl because you can't tell the

> difference from the distance.

>

> Cladosporium is simply another genus of fungus.

>

> C. May, M.A., CIAQP

> May Indoor Air Investigations LLC

> 3 Tolkien Lane

> Tyngsborough, MA 01879

> 617-354-1055

> www.mayindoorair.com

> www.myhouseiskillingme.com

>

> >Indoor Air Quality - Mold Sampling

> >Posted by: " tigerpaw2c " tigerpaw2c@... tigerpaw2c

> >Date: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:29 pm ((PST))

>

> >Monday, January 14, 2008

> >Indoor Air Quality - Mold Sampling

>

> >http://environmental-consulting.blogspot.com/2008/01/indoor-air-

> quality-mold-sampling.html

>

> >BIOAROSOL: GENERAL INFORMATION

>

>

> >The most common Mold spore causing health problems is

> >Penicillium/Aspergillus. These contaminants can come in the form of

> >invasive infections, colonizations, toxicoses, or allergies. They

> >are opportunistic invaders, infecting various sites in individuals

> >with lowered resistance to diseases. These Mold Spores have also

> >been known to cause inflammation of the cornea, external ear,

> >respiratory, and urinary tract infections. Some strains have even

> >been known to produce mycotoxins.

>

>

> >A dangerous fungal by-product of Penicillium/Aspergillus is

> >Cladosporium. Cladosporium is a slow-growing fungus that is very

> >sensitive to any kind of disruption. This can allow it to become

> >airborne very easy. It is very common in dead and decaying plants,

> >and therefore it is the fungus that is most commonly found in the

> >outdoor environment. It is a common cause of extrinsic asthma and

> >hay fever. Cladosporium is often found to be a causative agent of

> >skin lesions, sinusitis, and pulmonary infections.

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>Am looking into all the different therapies so I’m sure I’ll come across

>him soon

Of course I would suggeset a quality homeopath

Email me if want names of homeopaths who practice similarly to myself who

will do phone consults.

Sheri

>

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Thanks for this! I'm going to print it off and hand it out to some of the kids at school. Now I need to find a simple one for artificial sweeteners.

Our school district banned pop in the machine, but allow milk ~ugh~ and water. However the neighboring school district allow ONLY DIET sodas!!! Worse than sugar, IMO.

And the school where I work allows everything. I am forced to assist students in selling soda pop, diet soda pop, artifically colored and flavored juices, milks of all flavors. The only two things I would consider is the water and a water with juice added, but they both just sit. And on top of all this soda we also sell chocolate chip cookies, coffee cake, and cookie DOUGH! I don't know how long I can handle this job. I hate killing teenages one bottle at a time.

Shari

[Guest guest]

You are not killing them, they do it to

themselves, and will continue to do so probably at a faster rate if you

withhold their drug of choice. As long as you are providing a choice you have

nothing to feel guilty about.

Janet

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of SV

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008

8:01 AM

health

Subject: Re:

(unknown)

Thanks for this! I'm going to print it off and hand it

out to some of the kids at school. Now I need to find a simple one for

artificial sweeteners.

Our school district banned pop in the machine, but allow

milk ~ugh~ and water. However the neighboring school district allow ONLY

DIET sodas!!! Worse than sugar, IMO.

And the school where I work allows everything. I am

forced to assist students in selling soda pop, diet soda pop, artifically

colored and flavored juices, milks of all flavors. The only two things I

would consider is the water and a water with juice added, but they both just

sit. And on top of all this soda we also sell chocolate chip cookies,

coffee cake, and cookie DOUGH! I don't know how long I can handle this

job. I hate killing teenages one bottle at a time.

Shari

[Guest guest]

"As long as you are providing a choice you have nothing to feel guilty about."

I don't feel we are giving them a choice. If I was giving them a choice I'd be making green smoothies for anyone who wants one or juicing oranges. At least have a juicer at the ready and make samples. They spend a fortune on appliances to keep poison food "fresh" why not appliances to serve REAL food?

You do know that the beef & dairy industry supports the schools with cash and materials for "learning". The government seems to think the military needs more money than the children.

Shari

[Guest guest]

It would be nice to offer a juice bar.

Getting the teenagers to drink it is another matter. Yeah, I know the beef and

dairy and other big food industry supports the public schools. My kids would starve

if they didn’t.

Janet

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of SV

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008

5:44 PM

health

Subject: Re:

(unknown)

" As long as you are providing a choice

you have nothing to feel guilty about. "

I don't feel we are giving them a choice. If

I was giving them a choice I'd be making green smoothies for anyone who

wants one or juicing oranges. At least have a juicer at the ready and

make samples. They spend a fortune on appliances to keep poison food

" fresh " why not appliances to serve REAL food?

You do know that the beef & dairy industry supports the

schools with cash and materials for " learning " . The government

seems to think the military needs more money than the children.

Shari

[Guest guest]

I used to work in school administration and what was served for lunch was

based on what commodities the government gave out to the school systems,

in addition to the federal school food budget the school received.

When a school is getting federal money, and every public school does, you

go by their checks and balances and you serve the food the government

tells you to serve. There was a district dietitian and her hands

were tied, she could not change the menu or what she was allowed to

change made very little difference to what was served.

In order to make up the shortfall from what money the government gives

for the school lunch programs and what it takes to actually feed the

kids, the schools bring in outside vendors who work yearly contracts with

the school. This is where the pop machines, candy machines,

cookies, pizza and more come into it.

It isn't the school's fault and it isn't the administration's

fault. There would be no lunch program in any public school without

federal money, and to get that federal money the schools jump through the

hoops presented.