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We had rain here today in centrai Missouri, but in the northern part of the state they had snow. TerryJanet <jfw4359@...> wrote: Hi everyone..I just got back from bringing my daughter to the dentist..Thankgood she does not need a root canal but she does need braces..Well that's after the first of the year..I hope evryone is having a good day..We are suppose to get 100% rain today..Oh boy I really looking forward to it....I feel so bad I just want to lay down and take a nap..I took Robitussin for nitetime and 2 nyquils and do you think I slept last night?? NO I SURE DIDN'T....So I am beat today beings I had to drive 45 miles for the dentist..Ok I'm finished complaining for now.. Zierhart

<dhz920@...> wrote: Yeah, it seems that way. Our company is planning to add 60 or so new jobs after the first of the year. We can't even get a new laptop this year because our budget is already spent for the department. -dz-At 09:40 PM 12/13/2005, you wrote:>Unless I see something in the paper, I don't plan on looking for a job >ubtill after the first of the year. Most companys are not hiring this time >of the year. But I will hit the streets hard & heavy after the first of >the year. I thank I will find something.>Terry Jan Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at

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We are having some ugly weather here..My daughter turned 18 today and she is so happy..That's all good but wait till she hits 30 and it will come quick but I am so proud of her..No drug..alcohol or pregnancy problems!! PTL!! Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote: We had rain here today in centrai Missouri, but in the northern part of the state they had snow. TerryJanet <jfw4359@...> wrote: Hi everyone..I just got back from bringing my daughter to the dentist..Thankgood she

does not need a root canal but she does need braces..Well that's after the first of the year..I hope evryone is having a good day..We are suppose to get 100% rain today..Oh boy I really looking forward to it....I feel so bad I just want to lay down and take a nap..I took Robitussin for nitetime and 2 nyquils and do you think I slept last night?? NO I SURE DIDN'T....So I am beat today beings I had to drive 45 miles for the dentist..Ok I'm finished complaining for now.. Zierhart <dhz920@...> wrote: Yeah, it seems that way. Our company is planning to add 60 or so new jobs after the first of the year. We can't even get a new laptop this year because our budget is already spent for the department. -dz-At 09:40 PM 12/13/2005, you

wrote:>Unless I see something in the paper, I don't plan on looking for a job >ubtill after the first of the year. Most companys are not hiring this time >of the year. But I will hit the streets hard & heavy after the first of >the year. I thank I will find something.>Terry Jan Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Jan

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I talked with my son in Cleveland last night, he said they had5 inches. Northern Missouri had 2 or 3 inches. We had a little rain here, but no snow. This morning it is around the mid 30/s.. Terry Zierhart <dhz920@...> wrote: We had a bit of a blizzard here yesterday and it's just slowing down now. I'm putting off the snowblowing until after work tonite, let the plows do their thing first, or I'll have to blow it out twice. -dzAt 11:59 AM 12/14/2005, you wrote: We had rain here today in centrai Missouri, but in the northern part of the state they had snow.TerryJanet <jfw4359@...> wrote: Hi everyone..I just got back from bringing my daughter to the dentist..Thankgood she does not need a root

canal but she does need braces..Well that's after the first of the year..I hope evryone is having a good day..We are suppose to get 100% rain today..Oh boy I really looking forward to it.. ..I feel so bad I just want to lay down and take a nap..I took Robitussin for nitetime and 2 nyquils and do you think I slept last night?? NO I SURE DIDN'T....So I am beat today beings I had to drive 45 miles for the dentist..Ok I'm finished complaining for now.. Zierhart <dhz920@...> wrote: Yeah, it seems that way. Our company is planning to add 60 or so new jobs after the first of the year. We can't even get a new laptop this year because our budget is already spent for the department. -dz- At 09:40 PM 12/13/2005, you wrote: >Unless I see something in the paper, I don't plan on looking for a job >ubtill after the first of the year. Most companys are not hiring this time >of the year. But I will hit the streets hard & heavy after the first of >the year. I thank I will find something. >Terry Jan Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at

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Ha Ha I'd miss the ole girl anyhow. She'd probably drive you nuts & you'd

want a refund. And that money will be long gone!!!! Thanks for playin. Good

luck on the suit. Loni

Jazairi <mebabyandbuddy@...> wrote: Hey Loni,

I'll rent your first born from ya for the 20k you need while you're in

treatment cuz i kinda doubt i'll ever be able to have my own now. But only if I

win my lawsuit, so don't take your ad outta the paper. Just playin'.

Good luck and take care.

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Backatcha. SharonJanet <jfw4359@...> wrote: NERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!! i PRAY ALL YOUR HOLIDAYS ARE LESSED AND PRECIOUS!! I am in Tx untill this afternoon..It is a beautiful day..It could be alittle cooler but what the heck..Everyoneis healthy andhappy and that's all that counts!! See you guys in the next year!!! Jan for Good - Make a difference this year.

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I'm late on this one - and I'm curious - is this a child custody issue where the

Father gets to do this? (My biggest fear)

Cheryl

Without somehow destroying me in the process, how could God reveal himself in a

way that would leave no room for doubt? If there was no room for doubt, there

would be no room for me - UA

(unknown)

Can someone please forward an attachment of the

inserts showing at what titer levels the children are

immune. I am about to propose to the courts that my

child is immune and has antibodies but I can not find

the inserts anywhere.

I know that someone had it on one of these groups in

the past.

Thank you for your prompt response.

Jackie B

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yes

Jackie came on the list earlier in the year.

It is one of 'those' situations

At 10:29 AM 12/30/2005 -0800, you wrote:

>I'm late on this one - and I'm curious - is this a child custody issue

where the Father gets to do this? (My biggest fear)

>

>Cheryl

>

>Without somehow destroying me in the process, how could God reveal himself

in a way that would leave no room for doubt? If there was no room for

doubt, there would be no room for me - UA

> (unknown)

>

>

> Can someone please forward an attachment of the

> inserts showing at what titer levels the children are

> immune. I am about to propose to the courts that my

> child is immune and has antibodies but I can not find

> the inserts anywhere.

>

> I know that someone had it on one of these groups in

> the past.

>

> Thank you for your prompt response.

>

> Jackie B

>

>

>

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Hi ette – I’m so sorry I

haven’t written to you. I still have your original e-mail asking me

about Dr. Levine and I kept meaning

to write to you, but I have limited time on the computer before I have to lie

down. The wireless laptop isn’t too comfortable for me.

Anyway, Dr. Levine

wrote me an e-mail saying that he stopped by, but being that I was moved from

HSS across the street to Columbia Presbyterian they told him I was “discharged.”

He apologized for not seeing me. I did write him back an e-mail explaining the

difficult post-op I had and that I was not really discharged but transferred to

ICU at Columbia Presbyterian. He said he was in NYC mainly during the middle

of the week and if I had a follow-up with Boachie on a day when he was in NYC

he would be happy to meet. So, maybe I can coordinate that in the future.

Lorrie

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of paulettep11

Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006

12:31 PM

Subject: [ ]

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Hi Everyone: I've been

trying to keep up with this very busy,

productive board. I'm one year & 9

months post op revision surgery

(Dr. LaGrone, one day

surgery/anterior/posterior--T-9 to sacrum),

and am feeling great.

I'm going to try to add my thoughts on some recent

issues mentioned

on this site:

(PA), please hang in there. I know the

days prior to surgery

can feel overwhelming. Try to think of positive

things, including

visualizing yourself with a positive

outcome.

Lorrie, Kam, Joyce, I've been thinking of

you and sending you

healing thoughts. Lorrie, did you ever see

Dr. Levein?

Eileen (garden girl), I agree with you on the

great care I received

at BSA, and how totally pleased I am with Dr. LaGrone,

Dr. Neilson,

etc. I have absolutely no regrets.

The central line was a non issue for me. It

was put in during

surgery while I was out. It really never

bothered me. It was

removed when I went to rehab floor at BSA...maybe

a week post op.

I am still amazed that I can stand erect with my

knees straight!

I've been hiking many times, and I can actually

rest standing up

with my knees straight, which was unheard of prior

to this surgery.

Someone asked about standing in

lines..........same thing.....I can

comfortably stand there. No more bending

forward, or having to hang

onto carts.

I think having a good relationship with my PCP has

helped me, as he

was the one who prescribed meds, etc. after I came

home from

surgery.

I try to keep up with the posts, but I'm

sure I've missed some

issues, but if anyone needs to email me directly

at

paulettep11@..., I'll be happy to answer any

questions. Hang in

there, and my best wishes are with everyone for a

happy, healthy

2006. ette

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Good Luck on your ssd appt d...

(unknown)

Ok I have a few minutes to try to get this update going.

Well my doc got onto me for smokin my 2 to 4 packs a week.. lol told him IM NOT GIVIN THEM UP. He was a lil upset with the lab. Last time I seen him(6 months ago) he ordered some blood tests that were not done. Im a hard draw. Lol for them. They chose which of his tests they could get enough blood to do tests on. He is trying watching my thyroid my blood sugar my hep thru lab work that they didnt do. Neither of us were happy bout that. This time the lab was drawn for the tests. Treatment is up as an option again(round 3) if my viral count is up and several other tests he mentioned say im ok to do it.. I am having more problems with my asthma so he added a new inhailer to my current one. My blood pressure was up so he added more of my current bp med to the mix. That med had been doing good. He doubled my prozac too. He ordered a chest xray because of my asthma, he wanted a baseline which my previous dr had not got. This dr I have now took over my case when my other dr moved. So he is learning more about hep. At the moment that is all I recall. Later I will read this and add anything I missed,lol

love and hugs

d

hey mitch just came in with the mail. in it is an appt for my ss. feb 23 @ 11;am

bout time

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Thanks Patty Pooh dPat McBride <pmcbride1@...> wrote: Good Luck on your ssd appt d... (unknown) Ok I have a few minutes to try to get this update going. Well my doc got onto me for smokin my 2 to 4 packs a week.. lol told him IM NOT GIVIN THEM UP. He was a lil upset with the lab. Last time I seen him(6 months ago) he ordered some blood tests that were not done. Im a hard draw. Lol for them. They chose which of his tests they could get enough blood to do tests on. He is trying watching my thyroid my blood sugar my hep thru lab work that they didnt do. Neither of us were happy bout that. This time the lab was drawn for the tests. Treatment is up as an option again(round 3) if my viral count is up and several other tests he mentioned say im ok to do it.. I am having more problems with my asthma so he added a new inhailer to my current one. My blood pressure was up so he added more of my

current bp med to the mix. That med had been doing good. He doubled my prozac too. He ordered a chest xray because of my asthma, he wanted a baseline which my previous dr had not got. This dr I have now took over my case when my other dr moved. So he is learning more about hep. At the moment that is all I recall. Later I will read this and add anything I missed,lol love and hugs d hey mitch just came in with the mail. in it is an appt for my ss. feb 23 @ 11;am bout time PhotosGot holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH TAMEKA for your kind words.

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Tracie you look awesome. I wish continued weight loss and improved health you look FAB U LOUS

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In a message dated 1/19/2006 9:40:14 A.M. Central Standard Time, lynntmj2000@... writes:

My mother-in-law has had injections in her knees and shoots her blood pressure out of sight. She is in such bad shape physically, the docs won't operate on her knees, or anything for that matter. But, I guess there is something in the cortisone shots that effect blood pressure. Lynn

I used to get the Synvics injections and they seemed to work for me, or least I thought that they did.

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I'm here.. Just dog butt tired.. Boodannegrl <dannegrl2003@...> wrote: HELLO OUT THERE DUMMIES!!! UMM NOT DUMB PEOPLE BUT YOU ALL KNOW WHAT I MEAN... WHERE IS EVERYONE?? DANNE Brings words and photos together (easily) withPhotoMail - it's free and works with . Kathy Brunow

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That makes two of us Boo, Im off to bed..night night..Hugs, Pat

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I'm here.. Just dog butt tired.. Boodannegrl <dannegrl2003@...> wrote:

HELLO OUT THERE DUMMIES!!! UMM NOT DUMB PEOPLE BUT YOU ALL KNOW WHAT I MEAN... WHERE IS EVERYONE??

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draggin ass tarred, Bayla,,lol...

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I'm here.. Just dog butt tired.. Boo

sorry..how tired is a dogs butt?

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Deb, Thanks for hte understanding. YES raging

hormones. She started about 3 months ago and it

definitely multiplied things! She is on Namenda,

Adderall XR during the day and regular Adderall " If

needed " in the afternoon. I can tell from hearing her

answer the phone at home if she has not taken her meds

so YES, there is a HUGE difference with meds!

She has to do her " homework " at school or it simply

does not get done. They have adjusted to that at

school and they make sure she does her work in study

hall and does not " forget " it. That helps alot.

I too have my own issues, I take meds for depression

(imagine that!lol), and have ADHD and OCD myself. So

some days we just " take a break from the world "

together. But we will make it!! I am the only one who

will make sure she is treated the way she should be

and who will help her take care of herself and I WILL

NOT give up on her!!

God Bless! Back to work now!

--- " Deb C. " <twinteror1@...> wrote:

> And don't forget at 13 you have raging hormones!!!

> My daughter (Aspergers) is 12 and just started her

> period. Talk about volital! After years of " all

> naturals " we had to finally turn to medication. It

> is amazing what a difference it makes. I was

> honestly shocked!

> She takes Effexor XR 110 mgs/ Adderall 5mgs(in

> morning only) and she is SO much easier to live

> with!

> It also took me until this year to get her an IEP

> and we have a great school system. I also have PDD

> twin boys.

> I think with Aspergers, like PDD you need to

> " treat the problem " so you have identified that she

> freaks out on tests - my daughter did the exact same

> thing- the Effexor stopped the panic attacks. She

> would get A's & B's WHEN she turned her work in.

> So for tests- she went to another room and got

> extra time. It helped until puberty.

> She would do it but not turn it in!!!ARG So the

> Adderall was to treat the ADHD.

> Please know that with me anyways- drugs are a last

> resort but I have seen how much of a difference that

> they can make. I too am in the " spectrum " because

> our issues are genetic.

> Just remember you not only have an Aspergers

> child, you have a child going through puberty.

> Good luck!

> Deb C.

>

> d corbin <jdcorbin_2000@...> wrote:

> I too have been fighting this battle. We live in a

> small town in rural area and the AEA here is

> useless!

> They have no idea what Aspergers is or that my

> daughter DOES need assistance in school. The school

> is

> willing to learn and help but without the AEA to

> provide resources, we have been lost (my daughter is

> 13 this week and only correctly diagnosed last

> fall!)

> Because of this, we have incidents where she is so

> upset and frustrated by an assignment or situation

> at

> school, that she attacks her younger brother

> physically and me verbally and physically. I had to

> call the police to calm her down and talk to her

> about

> how serious it was to do that. (again, small town,

> so

> I know the officers personally) They spoke to her

> and

> calmed her down but it is only a matter of time

> before

> they give her another assignment she is not capable

> of

> completing or does not understand etc that sets her

> off because she has no way to express it etc at

> school. I have been following these postings and

> have

> gotten some very good information from them. It has

> given me something to take to the teachers and

> principal at school to try to educate them about

> Aspergers and what types of services/IEP my daughter

> actually needs to succeed. I realize that should not

> be my province, but I am getting no other assistance

> so I have to try on my own! If anyone has any other

> websites, articles, information re Aspergers in

> middle

> school, teaching hints ANYTHING, please post here. I

> have somewhat gotten the bullying and tormenting

> under

> control by speaking to the ringleaders mother, but

> the

> rest of the situation is not going well.

>

> Thanks and God Bless you all!

> DeeDee

>

> --- " Deb C. " <twinteror1@...> wrote:

>

> > My questions is- if they are finally considered

> > disabled will you be able to get SSI for them

> also.

> > I have twins that are PDD - obviously affected,

> > while my daughter is Aspergers. It took years for

> me

> > to get her services in school because she was just

> > like the girl in the story.

> > Anyone have any ideas?

> > Deb C.

> >

> > Laha1960@... wrote:

> > This article came to me from a report that

> I

> > get which informs me of all the latest in the

> world

> > of Aspergers and Autism.

> > Please read as I thought many of you on my lists

> (

> > I am sending this to the three lists that I am on

> > for Aspergers) would appreciate this information.

> > The place where you join this newsletter is at the

> > bottom of the article.

> > Thanks and Enjoy!

> > in IL

> >

> >

> >

> > ADVOCACY

> >

> > Federal Judge Rules That Asperger's Syndrome Is A

> > Disability

> >

> > http://tinyurl.com/aoe65

> >

> > A York County girl who suffers from

> Asperger's

> > syndrome is entitled to

> > special education services even though she

> completes

> > her homework, behaves

> > well in class and scores well on tests, a federal

> > judge ruled.

> > U.S District Judge D. Brock Hornby ordered

> > School Administrative

> > District 55 to assemble a team of teachers and

> > specialists to design an

> > appropriate learning program for the girl,

> > identified in court documents

> > only as " L.I. "

> > In his ruling, Hornby said the girl's

> parents

> > demonstrated that the

> > disability adversely affects her educational

> > performance " and is thus

> > eligible for special education under (federal law)

> > due to her Asperger

> > syndrome and her depressive disorder. "

> > O'Meara, the family's lawyer, said

> the

> > decision recognizes

> > that social development is an important part of

> > education, along with

> > academic studies.

> > " Education is so much more than academic

> > performance, " O'Meara said.

> > " Hopefully, this will put that debate to

> rest

> > once and for all. "

> > While Hornby overturned the district's

> > decision to deny services, the

> > judge also denied the family's reimbursement

> request

> > for the two years of

> > private school tuition it has paid since taking

> her

> > out of public school in

> > 2003.

> > Nonetheless, advocates for the disabled

> hailed

> > the ruling as a

> > victory.

> > The decision clarifies the question of who

> is

> > eligible for services,

> > and it will have an impact both in the state and

> > beyond, said Rice of

> > the Disability Rights Center of Maine.

> > Herlan, lawyer for SAD 55, declined to

> > comment until he has

> > reviewed the 48-page ruling, which was issued

> Monday

> > afternoon.

> > Asperger's syndrome is a milder variant of

> > autism. The name comes from

> > Dr. Hans Asperger, an Austrian who described the

> > syndrome in 1944.

> > Hornby's ruling described Asperger's as a

> > " clinically recognized

> > pervasive developmental disability " with symptoms

> > that include " limited

> > interests or an unusual preoccupation with a

> > particular subject to the

> > exclusion of other activities. "

> > School is challenging for Asperger's

> students

> > because they often have

> > poor social skills and difficulty communicating,

> > Hornby wrote.

> > L.I., who attended public schools in Hiram

> and

> > Cornish through 5th

> > grade, performed well academically but in the

> fourth

> > grade her teachers

> > noticed that she looked sad, anxious and had a

> > difficult time making

> > friends.

> > When she was in sixth grade, she stopped

> > studying and attempted to

>

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Where are you? There are great doctors and especially Naturopaths

that have helped us tremendously without prescriptions that can delay recovery.

Lynda

At 04:50 PM 2/8/2006, you wrote:

>hi- i am new to the group, i appreciate all that i have been able to

>read. 8 months after getting my implants i started experiencing sleep

>disturbances, and pain in my knees, over time the pain went to just

>about every joint and muscle i had. this pain was debilitating. many

>other strange symptoms came about, but pain and fatique were my number

>one complaint. after a long journey of soul searching and research i

>decided to have the implants removed. i sent them to Dr. Blais in

>Canada for testing. he found a defective valve, significant saline

>contamination which was feeding a large hematoma due to poor surgery.

>i am now 5 months post surgery and am still not seeing any change in

>pain level. in fact it has gotten worse around month 5. I am on

>Plaquenil which has been sooooo helpful up to this point. Dr.

>Shanklin has said that sometimes you will have an immune flair up once

>you go in and stir things up, up to 6 months down the road. i

>understand Dr. Vasey is the best Dr. to see to try and regain your

>health. he is booked 6 months out? any recommendations?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

>by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

>licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

>decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

>better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

>Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

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I haven't heard of Dr. Vasey or Shanklin, where are they from? I've

got an appointment on the 15th with a naturopath, Dr. Leu,

recommended by someone on this site. http://www.drleu.com/

I also found another website, which I noticed Dr. Kolb is affiliated

with, and there are some MD's who are recommended on that site. If

they're associated with Dr. Kolb, I'm wondering if they also

recommend the protocol that she advises her patients to use. Check

out this website and look for the list of doctors, perhaps there's

one in your area. I've never used any of them, just making an

assumption that since they're listed on this site, that they've got

experience with people who have gotten sick from implants.

http://www.freewebs.com/implants/index.htm

Sis

> >hi- i am new to the group, i appreciate all that i have been

able to

> >read. 8 months after getting my implants i started experiencing

sleep

> >disturbances, and pain in my knees, over time the pain went to

just

> >about every joint and muscle i had. this pain was debilitating.

many

> >other strange symptoms came about, but pain and fatique were my

number

> >one complaint. after a long journey of soul searching and

research i

> >decided to have the implants removed. i sent them to Dr. Blais in

> >Canada for testing. he found a defective valve, significant

saline

> >contamination which was feeding a large hematoma due to poor

surgery.

> >i am now 5 months post surgery and am still not seeing any change

in

> >pain level. in fact it has gotten worse around month 5. I am on

> >Plaquenil which has been sooooo helpful up to this point. Dr.

> >Shanklin has said that sometimes you will have an immune flair up

once

> >you go in and stir things up, up to 6 months down the road. i

> >understand Dr. Vasey is the best Dr. to see to try and regain your

> >health. he is booked 6 months out? any recommendations?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given

> >by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> >licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> >mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> >decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

> >better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner

(1954,

> >Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

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Dr. Vasey is a Rheumatologist in FL, I went to him in '92, did not

help me at all. Of course, I won't put those toxic drugs most

doctors prescribe into my body. Dr. Shanklin is on TN, and does research.

Lynda

At 07:59 PM 2/8/2006, you wrote:

>I haven't heard of Dr. Vasey or Shanklin, where are they from? I've

>got an appointment on the 15th with a naturopath, Dr. Leu,

>recommended by someone on this

>site. <http://www.drleu.com/>http://www.drleu.com/

>

>I also found another website, which I noticed Dr. Kolb is affiliated

>with, and there are some MD's who are recommended on that site. If

>they're associated with Dr. Kolb, I'm wondering if they also

>recommend the protocol that she advises her patients to use. Check

>out this website and look for the list of doctors, perhaps there's

>one in your area. I've never used any of them, just making an

>assumption that since they're listed on this site, that they've got

>experience with people who have gotten sick from implants.

><http://www.freewebs.com/implants/index.htm>http://www.freewebs.com/implants/in\

dex.htm

>

>Sis

>

>

>

> > >hi- i am new to the group, i appreciate all that i have been

>able to

> > >read. 8 months after getting my implants i started experiencing

>sleep

> > >disturbances, and pain in my knees, over time the pain went to

>just

> > >about every joint and muscle i had. this pain was debilitating.

>many

> > >other strange symptoms came about, but pain and fatique were my

>number

> > >one complaint. after a long journey of soul searching and

>research i

> > >decided to have the implants removed. i sent them to Dr. Blais in

> > >Canada for testing. he found a defective valve, significant

>saline

> > >contamination which was feeding a large hematoma due to poor

>surgery.

> > >i am now 5 months post surgery and am still not seeing any change

>in

> > >pain level. in fact it has gotten worse around month 5. I am on

> > >Plaquenil which has been sooooo helpful up to this point. Dr.

> > >Shanklin has said that sometimes you will have an immune flair up

>once

> > >you go in and stir things up, up to 6 months down the road. i

> > >understand Dr. Vasey is the best Dr. to see to try and regain your

> > >health. he is booked 6 months out? any recommendations?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

>given

> > >by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> > >licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

>treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> > >mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> > >decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

> > >better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner

>(1954,

> > >Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > >See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> >

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[Guest guest]

Dr. Vasey and Dr. Shanklin are both experts on

silicone induced illness. Dr. Vasey is a practicing rheumatologist

in Florida, but booked very heavily. He knows all the symptoms

associated with breast implants, and has written a book about it.

Dr. Shanklin is in Memphis, Tennessee, and he also knows all about

this illness. I am not certain that he is still practicing or what

his specialty is, but he was very instrumental in identifying many

of our problems and writing papers about them.

I have contact info if anyone is interested.

Patty

> > >hi- i am new to the group, i appreciate all that i have been

> able to

> > >read. 8 months after getting my implants i started

experiencing

> sleep

> > >disturbances, and pain in my knees, over time the pain went to

> just

> > >about every joint and muscle i had. this pain was

debilitating.

> many

> > >other strange symptoms came about, but pain and fatique were my

> number

> > >one complaint. after a long journey of soul searching and

> research i

> > >decided to have the implants removed. i sent them to Dr. Blais

in

> > >Canada for testing. he found a defective valve, significant

> saline

> > >contamination which was feeding a large hematoma due to poor

> surgery.

> > >i am now 5 months post surgery and am still not seeing any

change

> in

> > >pain level. in fact it has gotten worse around month 5. I am

on

> > >Plaquenil which has been sooooo helpful up to this point. Dr.

> > >Shanklin has said that sometimes you will have an immune flair

up

> once

> > >you go in and stir things up, up to 6 months down the road. i

> > >understand Dr. Vasey is the best Dr. to see to try and regain

your

> > >health. he is booked 6 months out? any recommendations?

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynda,

I hope at least you got your validation from him! I agree that the

toxic drugs aren't going to help us. Vasey IS a rheumatologist

using the only arsenals he was taught to use against autoimmune

disease (drugs). It's too bad he hasn't gotten on the alternative

bandwagon to really be able to help us. At least he knows we are

sick from implants.

Patty

> > > >hi- i am new to the group, i appreciate all that i have been

> >able to

> > > >read. 8 months after getting my implants i started

experiencing

> >sleep

> > > >disturbances, and pain in my knees, over time the pain went to

> >just

> > > >about every joint and muscle i had. this pain was

debilitating.

> >many

> > > >other strange symptoms came about, but pain and fatique were

my

> >number

> > > >one complaint. after a long journey of soul searching and

> >research i

> > > >decided to have the implants removed. i sent them to Dr.

Blais in

> > > >Canada for testing. he found a defective valve, significant

> >saline

> > > >contamination which was feeding a large hematoma due to poor

> >surgery.

> > > >i am now 5 months post surgery and am still not seeing any

change

> >in

> > > >pain level. in fact it has gotten worse around month 5. I

am on

> > > >Plaquenil which has been sooooo helpful up to this point. Dr.

> > > >Shanklin has said that sometimes you will have an immune

flair up

> >once

> > > >you go in and stir things up, up to 6 months down the road. i

> > > >understand Dr. Vasey is the best Dr. to see to try and regain

your

> > > >health. he is booked 6 months out? any recommendations?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> >given

> > > >by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician

or

> > > >licensed health care professional before commencing any

medical

> >treatment.

> > > >

> > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> > > >mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> > > >decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

> > > >better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner

> >(1954,

> > > >Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > >

> > > >See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

link:

> > >

> >

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> > shutterfly.com/action/>http://.sh

> >utterfly.com/action/

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty,

He told me I was sick from my Mentor implant. And tried to give me

the standard drugs, plaquenil, etc., which I refused, of course.

Lynda

At 11:26 PM 2/8/2006, you wrote:

>Hi Lynda,

>I hope at least you got your validation from him! I agree that the

>toxic drugs aren't going to help us. Vasey IS a rheumatologist

>using the only arsenals he was taught to use against autoimmune

>disease (drugs). It's too bad he hasn't gotten on the alternative

>bandwagon to really be able to help us. At least he knows we are

>sick from implants.

>Patty

>

>

> > > > >hi- i am new to the group, i appreciate all that i have been

> > >able to

> > > > >read. 8 months after getting my implants i started

>experiencing

> > >sleep

> > > > >disturbances, and pain in my knees, over time the pain went to

> > >just

> > > > >about every joint and muscle i had. this pain was

>debilitating.

> > >many

> > > > >other strange symptoms came about, but pain and fatique were

>my

> > >number

> > > > >one complaint. after a long journey of soul searching and

> > >research i

> > > > >decided to have the implants removed. i sent them to Dr.

>Blais in

> > > > >Canada for testing. he found a defective valve, significant

> > >saline

> > > > >contamination which was feeding a large hematoma due to poor

> > >surgery.

> > > > >i am now 5 months post surgery and am still not seeing any

>change

> > >in

> > > > >pain level. in fact it has gotten worse around month 5. I

>am on

> > > > >Plaquenil which has been sooooo helpful up to this point. Dr.

> > > > >Shanklin has said that sometimes you will have an immune

>flair up

> > >once

> > > > >you go in and stir things up, up to 6 months down the road. i

> > > > >understand Dr. Vasey is the best Dr. to see to try and regain

>your

> > > > >health. he is booked 6 months out? any recommendations?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> > >given

> > > > >by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician

>or

> > > > >licensed health care professional before commencing any

>medical

> > >treatment.

> > > > >

> > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> > > > >mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> > > > >decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

> > > > >better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner

> > >(1954,

> > > > >Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > > >

> > > > >See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

>link:

> > > >

> > >

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> > > > >

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