Re: (unknown)

March 10, 2004

Oh I know it will take a couple of years to get off the ground and many hours to boot. But it I can get everything on paper and into the planning stages, then when my treatments are over, I will be ready.

-----Original Message-----From: Zierhart [mailto:dhz920@...]Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 8:02 AM Subject: RE: [ ] (unknown)

-----Original Message-----Sounds great! Of course you know starting a new business can be very demanding of your time and effort, too, but at least you know you’re working for yourself. Hopefully that old friend of yours will help you out there and you can do more on your good days and get a little slack on the tough ones. –dz-

From: Lynne Dunham [mailto:lynne@...] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:38 PM Subject: RE: [ ] (unknown)

This week treatments have been fine, actually went out and did stuff on Sunday (dog training) and rested on Monday. But I am not as tired as I was and feel basically good.

Main problem is where I work, she announced today she want us to work on Sundays and Mondays that is 7 days a week. Not Me. Less than a half hour later an old friend called and wants to get with me about opening our own business. Very weird since the last two weeks I have been preparing my business plans, looking at building, equipment needed. Had my business card drawn up and now going over them with the printing company. Gosh who knows maybe I will operating my own place in a few months and enjoying every day.

March 10, 2004

>>He is always seeking some kind of approval for us and gets very upset if

things do not go in a particular order.

I have 2 sons and my older ASD son (now almost 7) was very difficult from

age 3 1/2 - had problems with change, easily angry and frustrated. The

problems started when he was 3 1/2 and my younger son was 9 months old and I

thought it was because his brother was competing for attention. But now my

NT 4 1/2 year old is doing some of the same things although milder - I can

reason with him which I couldn't with the older one once he was upset. I

think it is a developmental stage but more severe in ASD kids because they

can't express what is going on as well. My older son got better as he got

older. We only found out that he was ASD at 6 1/2 - he is high functioning,

very verbal and clever in math and science. Did well in school etc....

Are you coping with your 5 year old's behaviour? I would try a few less

radical options as long as the behaviour is not dangerous to the baby or

really self-destructive. Patience and perhaps some changes in food,

supplements may help. You don't say what diets or therapies you are doing

with him. My son did much better on lots of vitamin b and some omega 3

and 6 oils. The B complex helps with production of seratonin and had a

calming effect on my son. There are supplements specially formulated for

calming effects and one I know of is called B'Calmed (I think). I've

recently added enzymes which are helping with food issues as well and they

seem to be enhancing his happiness - refered to as the 'Happy Child Effect'.

You might do some research on seratonin and try various minerals and

vitamins that are necessary to help the body make it. He might be low on

some of them. Seratonin levels are implicated in many neurological problems

including depression, anxiety and so on.

If you do decide to give some sort of medicine, I would do research on what

the medicine is supposed to do, possible side effects etc first. Some

anti-depressants are very hard on the body or are hard to go off of again.

Good Luck.

Abby

[ ] (unknown)

Hi, everyone. I was wondering has anyone had any experience with

depression or anxiety problems with their children. My son is 5 1/2

and may have some signs of depression. His doctor says he more has

an anxiety disorder and wanted to try him on paxil. He actually

tried zoloft for about 2 weeks but seemed more anxious to me. He is verbal

but unable to

express his feelings. I am just very confused because to me his being

a typical 5 year old as far as his behaviors plus he has a younger

brother who is 1 and has to share alot of the attention with me and

his father. But because of his autism his is not able to express his

wants and needs and I think he is frustrated because of that. Am I

just being blind and should I try to give him these drugs to help him

and to make him calmer and happier or is it just a faze he is going

through. He's been worse since the birth of his younger brother and

I just don't now about going along with the doctor who has only seen

him for one session. Help anyone. I am one confused mommy. I want

to do the best for him but I don't want him to suffer. He's such a

smart little boy and I don't want to mess things up for him. HELP!!!

Thanks for listening.

Sharon

March 10, 2004

Thanks for the good advice. Did you go to a doctor with help with

the different natural alternatives or did you do it on your own. I

want to do that but afraid of doing it on my own.

Sharon

> >>He is always seeking some kind of approval for us and gets very

upset if

> things do not go in a particular order.

>

> I have 2 sons and my older ASD son (now almost 7) was very

difficult from

> age 3 1/2 - had problems with change, easily angry and

frustrated. The

> problems started when he was 3 1/2 and my younger son was 9 months

old and I

> thought it was because his brother was competing for attention.

But now my

> NT 4 1/2 year old is doing some of the same things although milder -

I can

> reason with him which I couldn't with the older one once he was

upset. I

> think it is a developmental stage but more severe in ASD kids

because they

> can't express what is going on as well. My older son got better as

he got

> older. We only found out that he was ASD at 6 1/2 - he is high

functioning,

> very verbal and clever in math and science. Did well in school

etc....

>

> Are you coping with your 5 year old's behaviour? I would try a few

less

> radical options as long as the behaviour is not dangerous to the

baby or

> really self-destructive. Patience and perhaps some changes in food,

> supplements may help. You don't say what diets or therapies you

are doing

> with him. My son did much better on lots of vitamin b and some

omega 3

> and 6 oils. The B complex helps with production of seratonin and

had a

> calming effect on my son. There are supplements specially

formulated for

> calming effects and one I know of is called B'Calmed (I think).

I've

> recently added enzymes which are helping with food issues as well

and they

> seem to be enhancing his happiness - refered to as the 'Happy Child

Effect'.

>

> You might do some research on seratonin and try various minerals and

> vitamins that are necessary to help the body make it. He might be

low on

> some of them. Seratonin levels are implicated in many neurological

problems

> including depression, anxiety and so on.

>

> If you do decide to give some sort of medicine, I would do research

on what

> the medicine is supposed to do, possible side effects etc first.

Some

> anti-depressants are very hard on the body or are hard to go off of

again.

>

> Good Luck.

>

> Abby

> [ ] (unknown)

>

> Hi, everyone. I was wondering has anyone had any experience with

> depression or anxiety problems with their children. My son is 5

1/2

> and may have some signs of depression. His doctor says he more has

> an anxiety disorder and wanted to try him on paxil. He actually

> tried zoloft for about 2 weeks but seemed more anxious to me. He

is verbal

> but unable to

> express his feelings. I am just very confused because to me his

being

> a typical 5 year old as far as his behaviors plus he has a younger

> brother who is 1 and has to share alot of the attention with me

and

> his father. But because of his autism his is not able to express

his

> wants and needs and I think he is frustrated because of that. Am I

> just being blind and should I try to give him these drugs to help

him

> and to make him calmer and happier or is it just a faze he is

going

> through. He's been worse since the birth of his younger brother

and

> I just don't now about going along with the doctor who has only

seen

> him for one session. Help anyone. I am one confused mommy. I want

> to do the best for him but I don't want him to suffer. He's such a

> smart little boy and I don't want to mess things up for him.

HELP!!!

>

> Thanks for listening.

>

> Sharon

>

March 11, 2004

Sounds like a good plan. I hope everything

goes well. I assume that your friend is interested in the same line of business

that you’ve been considering? Wasn’t it working with pets? I know,

having a dog, it’s hard to find suitable places to take him to run. This

was much easier in Colorado. –dz-

RE: [ ]

(unknown)

Oh I know it will take a

couple of years to get off the ground and many hours to boot. But it I

can get everything on paper and into the planning stages, then when my

treatments are over, I will be ready.

March 11, 2004

nothing really-----i hope

> what did I miss

>

> The most thoroughly wasted of all days is that which one has not

laughed!

>

> Eddie

March 11, 2004

so I did miss something lol

Remember, if you haven't got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart......Then you are just an old sour fart.Eddie

March 11, 2004

Yes we both want to do doggie daycare with training and part time grooming only. Grooming is hard work and physically a healthy person can't stay at it for long. So it is time to think ahead before the body really breaks down.

-----Original Message-----From: Zierhart [mailto:dhz920@...]Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:25 AM Subject: RE: [ ] (unknown)

Sounds like a good plan. I hope everything goes well. I assume that your friend is interested in the same line of business that you’ve been considering? Wasn’t it working with pets? I know, having a dog, it’s hard to find suitable places to take him to run. This was much easier in Colorado. –dz-

-----Original Message-----From: Lynne Dunham [mailto:lynne@...] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 3:55 PM Subject: RE: [ ] (unknown)

Oh I know it will take a couple of years to get off the ground and many hours to boot. But it I can get everything on paper and into the planning stages, then when my treatments are over, I will be ready.

March 11, 2004

>> Did you go to a doctor with help with

the different natural alternatives or did you do it on your own. I

want to do that but afraid of doing it on my own.

Hi Sharon

I did it without a doctor. My son started having petit mal seizures and I

started doing research on them. Came across information that they are

caused by stress (knew he didn't handle noise, big groups etc) so when they

suggested massive doses of Vitamin B to control them, I tried it. It worked

for the seizures but it also made him much calmer, happier and so on. This

reaction made me wonder as I had always thought his problems were just his

personality. My dad is very easily angry (probably qualifies as Asperger's

sufferer) and my husband is very quiet and had low muscle tone as a child.

So I started researching things and reading lots.

I've done a 2 year home study course on Herbal Medicine (not completed yet

but started more than 3 years ago!!!!) and am a computer programmer which

means that I can do lots of research on the Internet. Found several groups

on the Internet and got advice, read hundreds of e-mails etc.... If you

aren't comfortable with doing it on your own, no problem, find a doctor who

will help you. Best is to get a recommendation from someone as there seems

to be a wide range of doctors out there - from those who are experiementing

to those who know what they are doing.

I would join the Enzymes and Autism Group ( )

as they discuss supplementation lots. Perhaps their are other groups that

you could join as well. I can't handle any more e-mails, so I haven't gone

looking.

Have you started chelating? Many parents have had success with that as well

regarding aggression. I haven't done that yet as I want to have hair tests

done in a month or so.

Have you read Dana's web site? She discusses chelation, diets, supplements,

lists doctors and so on. I think it is http://www.danasview.net She has 4

kids, 2 were ASD and she has done everything on her own.

Regards

Abby

March 23, 2004

Do you have a link?

----- Original Message -----

From: cecilio colindres <ceciliocolindres@...>

> Hola

> Has anybody heard about the new color therapy program from Bruce Copen

Scope Software?

March 25, 2004

Thanks Bob,

I am not aware of a PCS instrument with better literature on it than the

RPQ, except that I can't find how to interpret the darn thing. The

references I have found indicate that 3 or more of the common MTBI sx beyond

3 mos. duration constitutes PCS. This is for a PI case I just got sent over

from medical colleagues, several months old, post PT, " squeaking " American

Family adjuster. Just trying to answer the questions before they get

asked. I'd love to see what you have.

>From: " DRBOB " <drbob@...>

> " ' Snell' " <drpsnell@...>

>Subject: RE: (unknown)

>Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:57:42 -0800

>

>Phil

>

>Not familiar with Rivermead..

>

>Have our own if you would like a copy will send via E mail.

>

>If you attend the CAO Convention you will see it in use and also a victim

>of 4 yrs PCS.

>

>DrBob

>

> W. Pfeiffer,D.C.;D,A.B.C.O.

>P. O. Box 606

>Pendleton, Or. 97801

> 541. 276.2550

> (unknown)

>

>Hey Folks,

>

>Anyone care to shed some light on the appropriate scoring/interpretation of

>the Rivermead Post-Concussion Questionnaire? Literary references much

>appreciated as well. Thanks in advance.

>

> W. Snell, D.C.

>127-G NE 102nd Avenue

>Portland, OR 97220

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March 29, 2004

In a message dated 3/29/04 1:17:41 AM Eastern Standard Time,

missourinaturegirl@... writes:

> Today a nurse told me of an antifungal in the RN magazine, using

> Vics Vaporub on toes for fungal infections

Would that be something like athlete's foot or the more serious under the

nail hard to cure fungus?

March 31, 2004

Thanks for your encouragement. I wanted to get started with

my next opportunity by reaching out to other professionals in the

area with discussion. I have thought about becoing an advocate over

the years but think that it is time to breed a new system of

support, and I am not sure how to go about doing it. I appreciate

your thoughts and taking time to converse. Let's keep in touch.

TC, Dianne

March 31, 2004

Thanks for your encouragement. I wanted to get started with

my next opportunity by reaching out to other professionals in the

area with discussion. I have thought about becoing an advocate over

the years but think that it is time to breed a new system of

support, and I am not sure how to go about doing it. I appreciate

your thoughts and taking time to converse. Let's keep in touch.

TC, Dianne

March 31, 2004

Lynne I'm right here reading your post. Why you miss me?

I try not to let my mind wander......It's to small and fragile to be out by itselfEddie

March 31, 2004

Big time kid. Where are our jokes, I could use some about now.

-----Original Message-----From: Tubs46@... [mailto:Tubs46@...]Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [ ] (unknown)

Lynne I'm right here reading your post. Why you miss me?

I try not to let my mind wander......It's to small and fragile to be out by itselfEddie

April 2, 2004

I have heard 2 tablespoons of cherry juice helps for sleep. But, the trick is

finding the pure cherry juice! I can't find any around here.

Haven't been on much, been feeling really awful lately. Found out today I have

strep throat (it is going around my daycare like crazy). I'm hoping it clears

soon.

Becky

[ ] (unknown)

Hi everyone

I feel a little bit annoyed today as I went to my doctor to ask for sleeping

pills but he refused to give me any. Since I have been diagnosed with RA I have

had great difficulty sleeping. I just cannot seem to get comfortable in bed

because I have RA in my neck and back of my head so lying down isnt always

comfortable. I have tried sleeping upright but this doesn't work.

I have loads of very soft comfortable pillows but to no avail. The outcome of

this is that some days I feel so absolutely drained and tired that I dont

function properly.

My doctor suggested I try some homeopathic treatment but I have tried this

before and it doesnt work. Can anyone give me some advice. Do you think taking

sleeing pills are a bad thing I would like an opinion other than his because he

isnt a very sympathetic man at all. Thankyou and sorry for whinging.

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In a message dated 02/04/2004 13:48:44 Central Standard Time,

marypaul40@... writes:

> Do you think taking sleeing pills are a bad thing I would like an opinion

> other than his because he isnt a very sympathetic man at all.

Firstly, I recommend shopping for a more compassionate doctor. Secondly ,

and without knowing your allergies, meds or anything else (DISCLAIMER!) a lot of

people can take 1 benedryl capsule at bedtime and it helps them sleep. That

is the sedative ingredient in Tylenol PM, among other OTC sleeping agents. So

if it isn't contraindicated, maybe you could try that? Plain generic

diphenhydramine (benedryl) is cheaper than when it is labeled as a " sleep

agent " .

Just a thought. Cary

April 3, 2004

RE: [ ]

(unknown)

Hi Jan well HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!!......

HAPPY

BIRTHDAY TO YOU….

April 6, 2004

Mark,

Coordination seems to be related to the link between the basal ganglia and the cerebellum. The cerebellum sends some kinds of motor instructions and the basal ganglia reviews the results to see how accurate the output was relative to what was expected.

Of course the motor impulses are planned and sent from the frontal lobe, back from the prefrontal cortex to the central sulcus (the split between the front and the back of the brain, running through Cz.) So a very slow frontal lobe might well be expected not to do a terrific job of planning and putting together clear orders for muscular activity--especially more complex activity.

I would certainly try some frontal lobe slow-wave squishing. I would also try (if beta is not already pretty high) Cz beta up and theta down, since there are good connections between Cz and the Basal Ganglia.

Pete

Van DeusenBrainTrainer ()16246 SW 92nd Ave, Miami, FL 33157305/321-1595

(unknown)

I am working with a young boy 10. He has a history of coordination problems? Lots of slow wave activity in the front +45%. He is also ADD. Anyone have any suggestions about what to look for in the eval or done any training that has addressed coordination?Mark Nowicki

April 7, 2004

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April 8, 2004

In a message dated 4/8/2004 12:30:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, kaceyalong@... writes:

I have a television interview with Fox national tomorrow! Say a prayer for me! I'll be sure to let you know when that will air. Thanks so much!

Kacey your in my prayers, let us know how it goes.....love bj

April 12, 2004

Lana,

Have you gone to the state's commission for the blind? Where is

he going to school? There must be a way to get this as an

accomodation for him to assist in his school work. Its good he uses

braille, dont let him lose that skill even if he does use speech for

the computer.

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April 14, 2004

-

kacey

That is so awesome that you are getting all of this coverage!! You

go girl!! By the way, I just looked at your pics for the first time

and you look way better without the implants. You have a great

figure!! It amazes me how many of the women on this site had breasts

that were plenty big to begin with. I always felt like such a

freak. I had no breast shape at all--almost totally flat. Look at

your typical male and that is pretty much me. I even have small

nipples and aerola too. Everyone who posted a picture has much

larger breasts than me. I guess I would like to know how many of

you on this forum were actually extremely flat like me--not even

filling out a 34AA padded bra. I guess I am still in the minority

even among those getting breasts implants!! So I guess I am curious-

-who else is extremely flat beside me?

Its funny, I am doing this B.E.S.T. therapy and it is a holistic

method and the practioner can get a feel for what your body is/was

feeling to keep itself from being healthy. The first thing she said

to me after examining was " I am getting a strong sense of shame from

you " . I was floored!! She then asks you to think about that shame

while she does an " energy adjustment " . Then you have to go home and

practice forgiving. Yourself. others. whatever. Well, that night

I started this exercise of thinking of shame and forgiveness. The

overwhelming feelings of shame at being so blatantly flat and

therefore " not feminine " came racing back. I realized how pathetic

it was that I would be willing to cut open my body and put a bag

filled with fluid in my chest to try and appear like I had breasts.

It really felt good letting go of those feelings!! I guess I have

gotten way off topic. Just wanted to say that I appreciate all the

efforts you are making to spread the word and perhaps save someone

else from going through all the pain and suffering we have endured!!

Hugs, kathy

-- In , Baboola57@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 4/8/2004 12:30:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> kaceyalong@h... writes:

> I have a television interview with Fox national tomorrow! Say a

> prayer for me! I'll be sure to let you know when that will air.

> Thanks so much!

> Kacey your in my prayers, let us know how it goes.....love bj

April 14, 2004

Kathy,

I am extremely flat also. I am a AA now too. I look awful naked, since I am extremely skinny and flat chested. I havent posted any pics because I am so flat chested . But, I much rather be like this than have those implants that made me so sick. So you arent alone I know what its like.

Barby

April 14, 2004

Hi Kathy. I feel you on the " flat " issue sister! My situation was a little different tho...I had about a B cup left breast, but due to what doctors think might be something called " poland's syndrome, " I never developed a right breast. It was pretty much just a nipple. So, I had a really hard time growing up. My mom had to alter bras for me and sew padding on one side. Now (I was explanted about 7 months ago) I'm back to where I was before except my left breast is even bigger now!!!...so now there's even more difference between my left and my 'non-existent' right. I wear mastectomy bras with a prosthesis on the right side. It doesn't bother me nearly as much now tho after going through the whole implant nightmare! I guess I had my priorities put in check! Colleen

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