Re: (unknown)

[Guest guest]

Lashanna Small wrote:

> I just found out that, in order to get my child into daycare, she will have

> to be vaccinated.

You shouldn't have to do ANY vaccinations- there are exemptions for every single

one. You have rights as your child's parent to refuse them. You'll have to

check the exemption laws for your state.

[Guest guest]

Hi, !

Thank you so much for your kind words about my responses. I'm glad others

enjoy reading them as much as I enjoy writing them - although I wish I

didn't have to, if you know what I mean. I only wish I had more time to

devote to the group. Maybe with winter approaching, I'll be able to spend

more time at the computer.

Your experiences this week with the roast sounded painful and frightening!

There is nothing scarier than being in the throes of a choking attack. You

do begin to wonder if your last bite will be your last bite -- ever! Before

my surgery, I avoided all meat because I learned the hard way that it was

too difficult to swallow. That's one of the problems with this disease -

you learn by trial and error what works and what doesn't, and even then

there are days when something you thought was " safe " fails to go down.

Likewise, there were rare occasions when I could manage to swallow something

I previously thought was " off limits " . Even now, nearly a year after my

operation, I'll have problems with something and resort to the old tricks of

water and walking around. I just have to remember to eat slowly and in

small bites, but it's hard. You want to feel like a normal person, and eat

without thinking about every mouthful.

Hopefully you won't go through another bad time like this last episode

again - once is enough, right?

Take care - have a good week!

Carol

(unknown)

> Carol, I so much enjoy reading your responses to everyone in our group.

You

> have a way of lifting everyones morale with your encouragement and

> experiences. I know I get a lot of help from you and everyone else. We had

a

> roast last night which my husband cut into steaks and cooked it in the

oven

> for awhile, when he took it out he had me test it to see if it was tender

> enough. It wasn't so he put it back in the oven for awhile longer when I

> tried it again and it was fine so I had another small piece the size of a

> quarter taking tiny bites from it, and I could feel it just resting in my

> esophagus, not going down because you see, I made the mistake of not

eating

> it with gravy, mashed potato etc. and drinking a sip of tea with it.

(after

> all , I was just testing to see if it would be tender enough to eat as a

> meal at a later time.) I finaly went for a glass of water and had a bad

time

> getting it down. I became light headed and sweating and shaky and had to

sit

> down, upset with myself. It thaught me a lesson. Never test meat

(especialy

> steak) without drinking liquid after every bite. However, this morning

while

> reading My messages I'm eating my breakfast Of english muffins a peach and

> my coffee with no problem. I'm

> sure some of you have had similar experiences.

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FYI - constant regurgitation erodes the back teeth - my dentist told me I

have some bone loss because of the achalasia. Best wishes, Elena

[Guest guest]

At 10:03 AM 10/8/2000 -0500, Carol Haggas wrote:

>There is nothing scarier than being in the throes of a choking attack. You

>do begin to wonder if your last bite will be your last bite -- ever!

This is something I have wondered about. At first, when I choked I thought

I could die that way. In time I found that often I could still find ways to

breath, and if not, I could easily regurgitate. In fact, it is often hard

not to regurgitate. It still feels like it could do me in, but, I am

confident that it won't. But, you have me wondering, just what are the risks?

Jerry

[Guest guest]

Hi, Jerry!

I've been meaning to write you for some time now, and I've enjoyed reading

the messages you've left for this group. You have a great outlook.

I've never read any specific discussion about the dangers of choking during

an achalasia attack but would imagine that they're the same as anyone who is

choking on food would face. There are, of course, the increased risks of

pneumonia from food being aspirated into the lungs, and many of our fellow

achalasiacs in this group have already experienced this tendency. For me,

choking or violently regurgitating food is a situation that always makes me

wonder " what if...? " and I hate being alone when I'm going through an

attack. You do hear of those cases where someone has literally choked to

death, and think " can this happen to me? "

Someone once told me that if you can speak during one of these episodes that

you aren't in grave danger. When I use this litmus test on myself, it also

has the added benefit of taking my mind off the choking and onto the act of

self-preservation - and the choking seems to stop or decrease.

How much fun we achalasiacs have!!

Carol

Re: (unknown)

> At 10:03 AM 10/8/2000 -0500, Carol Haggas wrote:

>

> >There is nothing scarier than being in the throes of a choking attack.

You

> >do begin to wonder if your last bite will be your last bite -- ever!

>

> This is something I have wondered about. At first, when I choked I thought

> I could die that way. In time I found that often I could still find ways

to

> breath, and if not, I could easily regurgitate. In fact, it is often hard

> not to regurgitate. It still feels like it could do me in, but, I am

> confident that it won't. But, you have me wondering, just what are the

risks?

>

> Jerry

>

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Hello Jerry and Carol

I have only recently signed on with this group and have found it facinating

to read letters describing my life.

As far as choking goes, I find it enormously embarassing to eat in front of

others for fear that I will have a choking fit and at the same time I don't

like to eat alone in for fear of exactly the same thing! When I do choke

when others are around I always downplay what has happened so that I won't

upset them. I don't want people to know how scary it is and how much it

hurts. I have spent time with my doctor discussing my diet and now I mostly

eat foods that don't give me trouble. It was very difficult to give up

bread but it has been worth it. I used to just eat whatever I wanted and

deal with the consequences but now I look at food and ask myself " Is it

worth it? "

Re: (unknown)

>

>

> > At 10:03 AM 10/8/2000 -0500, Carol Haggas wrote:

> >

> > >There is nothing scarier than being in the throes of a choking attack.

> You

> > >do begin to wonder if your last bite will be your last bite -- ever!

> >

> > This is something I have wondered about. At first, when I choked I

thought

> > I could die that way. In time I found that often I could still find ways

> to

> > breath, and if not, I could easily regurgitate. In fact, it is often

hard

> > not to regurgitate. It still feels like it could do me in, but, I am

> > confident that it won't. But, you have me wondering, just what are the

> risks?

> >

> > Jerry

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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At 06:24 PM 10/8/2000 -0400, EWagner593@... wrote:

>FYI - constant regurgitation erodes the back teeth - my dentist told me I

>have some bone loss because of the achalasia. Best wishes, Elena

Funny, I had this discussion with my dentist just this week. He said It is

the acids in it that erode the teeth. If there are no acids in it, it won't

be much of a problem. Personally, I don't usually bring up stuff from the

stomach, just stuff from the esophagus, so no stomach acid. If you drink a

lot of juice or sodas, the acids in them could still be a problem. I don't

seem to have a problem with eroded teeth.

Jerry

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Corny,

IMO, yes! WHen I began the injections I was just coming to terms with a

chemical sensitivity. It went away. When I stopped the injections, the

first symptom to appear is a different chemical sensitivity. It came

back.

So, I am reading a booklet by Sherry , MD on the subject. She had

it & got well. She tells how! Thanks to whomever mentioned her name!

jim

Mike E Cornwall wrote:

>

> HI Jim

>

> If our organs and glands are part of this overall rejuvenation that comes

> with HGH injections, then it will follow that resistance to diseases and

> the OVERCOMING of any current diseases will be enhanced! Right?!

>

> Corny

>

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Lashanna:

It sounds like your daughter had a very serious allergic reaction to

something. The excema is an allergic reaction... you know my son haas a

dairy allergy and I wonder if the acidophilus is " dairy " and maybe you might

want to find out more about that... you mentioned you were thinking about

avoiding dairy... have you tried that? What happened? SOunds like what

happened was really scary. I hope that she is better and it hasn't happened

since.

Bari

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>Subject: (unknown)

>Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 13:55:44 GMT

>

>I know this is off the subject, but thee was some commentary recently on

>childhood eczema. Mys month old daughter has eczema. I started taking

>flaxseed oil and acidophilus as a means of helping her. This morning we(me

>and my husbabd) had to take her to the emergency room.This is going to be

>hard to discribe, but I will try. Well, you know how kids sound when they

>cry and they are trying to catch their breath? Well, that is how she

>sounded. The doctors checked her and said that her oxygen was 100% and

>that

>she was breathing fine. They said it was normal for some babies to sound

>like that. They admitted that they did not know the cause. I am not sure

>if it was the supplements(I do not think it was) but does anyone know if

>these supplements can cause such a side effect? Has anyone eles's kids did

>the type of breathing I described?

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Saul

That is a neat and tidy solution for surface bacteria, which is where

most of it would be. We can also include with the meal, garlic or

cayenne pepper or wasabe, or some other natural anti-biotic.

Corny

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:59:54 -0400 " Saul Pressman " <saul@...>

writes:

> Dear Corny,

>

> Any surface bacteria can be easily removed from meats by rinsing

> with H2O2.

>

> Best of Health!

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>

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> created

> them " . - Einstein

>

>

> (unknown)

>

>

> > Jim

> > Here's my salvo for the benefits of raw meat, fish, and raw

> cultured

> > dairy products. My respiratory problems improved greatly when I

> went raw

> > 2 years ago. Digestion of raw meats is actually easier than

> cooked,

> > since the protein is not denatured and toughened by cooking. Of

> course

> > the nutritional value is much higher.

> >

> > Find the best quality you can. I buy 's natural beef and

> Rocky

> > chickens from Wild Oats Market. There are several organic and

> natural

> > sources on the internet. There is much hype about the dangers of

> > bacterial contamination. However, it is easy to tell if it's

> there: you

> > can see it, feel it and smell it on raw meat. Not so with cooked

> meat,

> > where the dangers really lie. I have never found bad 's

> beef or

> > Rocky chicken.

> >

> > If you have trouble with the idea or the taste/consistency of raw,

> then

> > cook it ever so slightly, especially chicken. Just warming it up

> on low

> > temps helps, too.

> >

> > Get the book: " We Want To Live " by Aajonus Vonderplanitz. (Amazon

> has

> > it). He saved his own life (cancer and other things) and those of

> his

> > son and other people with raw meats and dairy. He now counsels

> and

> > provides sources for raw products. Quite an amazing book.

> >

> > The entertainment value of eating raw meat is a side benefit. The

> looks

> > of disbelief and jaws dropping when others see you attacking a raw

> and

> > bloody burger or steak is priceless!!

> >

> > Corny

> >

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Everything is cool now. I stopped taking the acidophilus. I am taking

evening primrose, which is good for eczema also. I just recently started

cutting out diary and it is going okay. My main thing is trying to learn

to cook without it. I would try soy, but I have read to many derogatory

articles about it. Plus, many babies are allergic to it as well.

>From: " Bari Lichtman " <blichtman@...>

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>Subject: Re: (unknown)

>Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 21:10:29 GMT

>

>Lashanna:

>

>It sounds like your daughter had a very serious allergic reaction to

>something. The excema is an allergic reaction... you know my son haas a

>dairy allergy and I wonder if the acidophilus is " dairy " and maybe you

>might

>want to find out more about that... you mentioned you were thinking about

>avoiding dairy... have you tried that? What happened? SOunds like what

>happened was really scary. I hope that she is better and it hasn't

>happened

>since.

>

>Bari

>

>

> >From: " Lashanna Small " <lashannasmall@...>

> >Reply-Vaccinationsegroups

> >AVNegroups, vaccinationsegroups

> >Subject: (unknown)

> >Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 13:55:44 GMT

> >

> >I know this is off the subject, but thee was some commentary recently on

> >childhood eczema. Mys month old daughter has eczema. I started taking

> >flaxseed oil and acidophilus as a means of helping her. This morning

>we(me

> >and my husbabd) had to take her to the emergency room.This is going to be

> >hard to discribe, but I will try. Well, you know how kids sound when

>they

> >cry and they are trying to catch their breath? Well, that is how she

> >sounded. The doctors checked her and said that her oxygen was 100% and

> >that

> >she was breathing fine. They said it was normal for some babies to sound

> >like that. They admitted that they did not know the cause. I am not

>sure

> >if it was the supplements(I do not think it was) but does anyone know if

> >these supplements can cause such a side effect? Has anyone eles's kids

>did

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Dear Corny,

Any surface bacteria can be easily removed from meats by rinsing with H2O2.

Best of Health!

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(unknown)

> Jim

> Here's my salvo for the benefits of raw meat, fish, and raw cultured

> dairy products. My respiratory problems improved greatly when I went raw

> 2 years ago. Digestion of raw meats is actually easier than cooked,

> since the protein is not denatured and toughened by cooking. Of course

> the nutritional value is much higher.

>

> Find the best quality you can. I buy 's natural beef and Rocky

> chickens from Wild Oats Market. There are several organic and natural

> sources on the internet. There is much hype about the dangers of

> bacterial contamination. However, it is easy to tell if it's there: you

> can see it, feel it and smell it on raw meat. Not so with cooked meat,

> where the dangers really lie. I have never found bad 's beef or

> Rocky chicken.

>

> If you have trouble with the idea or the taste/consistency of raw, then

> cook it ever so slightly, especially chicken. Just warming it up on low

> temps helps, too.

>

> Get the book: " We Want To Live " by Aajonus Vonderplanitz. (Amazon has

> it). He saved his own life (cancer and other things) and those of his

> son and other people with raw meats and dairy. He now counsels and

> provides sources for raw products. Quite an amazing book.

>

> The entertainment value of eating raw meat is a side benefit. The looks

> of disbelief and jaws dropping when others see you attacking a raw and

> bloody burger or steak is priceless!!

>

> Corny

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

other alternative self-help subjects.

>

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[Guest guest]

thank you Suzy hope you are feeling better too! good on the anti d's

went to primary today and got an aristacort LA shot and decadron. already

feeling better, and can tell ears are draining some. still having to take

half a lortab now and then for pounding head but is slowly better

Hope you all have a great week.. doc said rest all week

alley/

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and Suzy.. mine may not be any worse than yours.. you know.. the squeeky

wheel gets the grease maybe I'm just louder and whinier keep on

truckin

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and Suzy.. mine may not be any worse than yours.. you know.. the squeeky

wheel gets the grease maybe I'm just louder and whinier keep on

truckin

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Alley,

Oh no, i don't believe that, have always admired you since you haven't

had very many sides that you've bitched about. I have had some whoppers

believe me and had to go through the sme stuff to get something as simple

as midrin you put it off I guess as long as you can toleratee then it

becomes so unbearable you just can't handle it , just this one yesterday

wasn't that bad and I do tend to try not to take too many

medications, toughh it out, but you know what, it is reallly not worth

it, Why feel like S--- when youe don't haver to even if the meds help

a little its worth it till you can get something to get rid of the pain.

ugh hate those headaches know what you mean by sittting around with the

icepacks, been there thanks to the group Have a better day then you

have : )

Suzy

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Subject: Re: (unknown)

Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:27:19 -0500

and Suzy.. mine may not be any worse than yours.. you know.. the squeeky

wheel gets the grease maybe I'm just louder and whinier keep on

truckin

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Alley,

Oh no, i don't believe that, have always admired you since you haven't

had very many sides that you've bitched about. I have had some whoppers

believe me and had to go through the sme stuff to get something as simple

as midrin you put it off I guess as long as you can toleratee then it

becomes so unbearable you just can't handle it , just this one yesterday

wasn't that bad and I do tend to try not to take too many

medications, toughh it out, but you know what, it is reallly not worth

it, Why feel like S--- when youe don't haver to even if the meds help

a little its worth it till you can get something to get rid of the pain.

ugh hate those headaches know what you mean by sittting around with the

icepacks, been there thanks to the group Have a better day then you

have : )

Suzy

From: " Ken & Pat @home " <alleypat@...>

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<Hepatitis Cegroups>

Subject: Re: (unknown)

Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:27:19 -0500

and Suzy.. mine may not be any worse than yours.. you know.. the squeeky

wheel gets the grease maybe I'm just louder and whinier keep on

truckin

alley/

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i hate to piddle on our parade, but basic priimate psychology also

allows for terroristic tactics, unnecessairily prolonged savage attacks

against a helpless victim, torture and

cannabilism and infanticide by human standards among even

whoa!!!... information overload!!!

the concept of cruelty is strictly a human invention. predators don't

" gloat " over the prospect of putting their lives on the line for a meal.

they don't get off on dinners terror at the prospect of becoming said

same.

Dennis

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I just figured out what this list is for its an ME list if I don't like a

recipe or that some dwarf is making more money than me stop talking about it

or send them to there rooms. You people will never grow in height or in

brains I cant believe you people if it isn't for you or what the list can do

for you then stop it AGAIN I SAY GET A LIFE damn i am so glad i got out of

LPA if this is what there teaching now in the sixties and seventies it was

about fun and learning, hmm didnt hitler start this way man you folks are out

there dan if this offends people you can take me off the list

Bud

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Actually, there were only thirteen recipes posted...the rest were just

comments for or against the recipes. People kind of got a little

overdramatic dontcha think...:-)

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In a message dated 00-10-04 17:11:47 EDT, you write:

<<

How much damage does a few cheating episodes set us back really???

>>

It just sets you back for as long as you cheat, I guess. However, every time

I've cheated, I had a difficult time getting back on the diet. In fact, I'm

still not back on completely from the last time I cheated *sigh* My advice

is to not cheat...And don't ask me if I follow it

~

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Dennis,

I thought so. I almost rebuked someone on that list, so I understand the

way it works. But, I don't really want that happening by accident

either. ;-)

jim

superflous1@... wrote:

>

> sorry jim :-)

> i really thought that went to O. T. list.

> i sent it from the 'my egroups' page at egroups

> and must have hit the wrong 'post' button.

> twon''t happen again. the little man in front of the curtaiin was

> chagrined, too :-)

>

> Dennis

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rebecca,

you have my deepest sympathies and prayers coming your way./.. i lost my

granpa a year two years ago when i went home on vacation, he just suddenly

passed away...... a very sad time .....take care and may you find some

comfort and peace......leah

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In a message dated 10/26/00 12:42:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

brink_00@... writes:

<< Hi y'all,

I shouldn't write this but you all are my friends and you should know.

My grandpa passed away Tuesday morning.

>>

Of course you should write and tell us . We're all here to support

each other, through the good times as well as the bad. I'm very very sorry

about your grandfather. How old was he? My Dad and Mom died very young

and it breaks my heart that my little ones won't remember much about them.

The three older do and we talk about my parents all the time. I think it

really helps to talk about the ones we love after they've gone. It helps

keep them with us!

{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}} And may God help you through your grieving!!

Donna