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Del You Are A Wonderful Man, In Case I Had Never Told

Ya! Ty For The Prayers(esp The Not Knowin Ya Part

Haha) And Thank You For The Support. Talking About

Addictions, I Walked Away From Shootin Up And From

Crack Cocaine With No Problem. I Walked Away From

Drinkin No Problem. But These Cigs Are A Bit**. My

Hubby Smokes. Smoking Has Been There When Life Threw

Me In The Gutter. Even When I Lost My Mind I Had Cigs.

Now To Try To Stop Its More Mental. I Started Buying

My Own Smokes At 11 And Never Stopped. I Am 34 Now.

But I Can And Will Stop. I Have No Choice. It Comes

Down To Stop Or No Surg. The Choice Is Simple. Again

Ty Del.

--- Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies

<go_deliman@...> wrote:

> Hi d.

>

> Good for you. I have about 5 friends that have

done the process and they are really happy with the

results. No problems to speak of, and would do it

again if needed.

> Your brave to do this, and I BELIEVE you can do

whatever it is you want to do.

>

> Cigs are a nasty habit..I had it for thirty years

or so, but decided (with God's help) to

quit...concentrate on other things and I've been good

to go for three years.

> Seriousy, Drinking, Smoking and Food are the

hardest things I had to kick in my life. FOOD

first....#1 it's everywhere, they even have free

deals at some of the places you can get it!! and the

ultimate advertised right on the radio and in Papers,

Come on IN!! Were friendly!! ALL YOU CAN EAT for just

$5.99. How could anyone say NO? Necessary to live,

accepted by even the prudest of people that still

think like Neandrathals. No one says....look at him...

he's getting food and probably gonna' eat it with two

foxy chicks in his car.. and look at what time it is!!

why do they need food at 3:00 AM? We do it right out

in public, in front of everyone..... and it all

actuality, it could be killing us...... However,

BOOZE/ DOPE/ and now cigs are not as accepted, so you

have to hide, get a little paranoid someone is

watching you... confirming to your inner self it;s not

right and therefore making it a little easier to quit.

>

> BABY....YOU CAN DO IT!! Halls Mentholyptis cough

drops gave me a Strong FORGET ABOUT IT FOR AWHILE

FEELING.

>

> I'll pray for you, and ask God not to hold it

against you that you know me....hahahah

>

> Del

>

>

>

>

> dannegrl <dannegrl2003@...> wrote:

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> Deb I had to give up someone to get out... They

already had a huge file on you!!!! lol. They said only

person man enough to take you in refused to haul in

his mom..Said he knows better than messing with

you.... lol ok I had to pick on ya. All went well.

Because I have such a history of depression, the dr

said I will probably need counseling after surg. I

will call Dr B's office (baritric surgeon) Monday to

find out what the next step is. They have my medical

records, Monday they will have a psych eval. I am not

sure if they have submitted a request for approval

from medicare yet. I understood them to say they do

that after they get the eval and required records.

>

> Ok to everyone that is lost, I will explain....

> I am VERY obese. I have been on tx 2 times with no

real svr. When I last seen my hep dr he said I can't

treat my hep c again until I lose weight. He

recommended looking into Gastric bypass. I had been

looking at it but had not decided to go for it till he

said that. To fight my hep I have to lose weight. OK

so I have since seen a bariatric surgeon to get the

process started. I have had all the tests requested so

far. Now I have to stop smoking. The surgeon will not

touch me if I am still smoking. I am a high risk

patient as it is. Smoking increases risks. And it is a

risk I can remove.

>

> I'm not willing to let my liver go down with out a

fight. This is the steps I have to take to fight to

live.

> Surgery scares me but dying is not in my list of

options...

>

> We each have our own path to navigate. how we

chose to handle that is up to each of us.

> love,

> d

>

> dannella

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Danne girl,

I know how it is believe me. I too walked away from shooting coke, also methamphetamine & the big H. Walked away from booze - no problemo but the smokes have got me in their clutches. I quit about 3 years ago for a little over 6 months & foolishly thought I could do it again as easily as that time. I've been trying again for about the past two years - I really can't afford them.

They're also one of the co-morbidity's the t p docs worry about. If I get to the place where I need a t p they might not be able to operate what with the smoking, the diabetes & the fat.(I really hate the word obese, I'm fat. 250 lbs and 5' 9") I'm working on the smoking again - I've had three cigs since Wednesday. Want a quitting buddy? Sometimes that helps, you can bitch to each other about the trouble the smokes give you.

By the way, I started smoking at 14 & I'm 56 now so it's been over 40 years.

Good Luck to both of us,

SuZie & Sir SpYke - who leaves the room when she lights up. You'd think the message would've got through by now.

Next time I'm coming back as a cat

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Del You Are A Wonderful Man, In Case I Had Never ToldYa! Ty For The Prayers(esp The Not Knowin Ya PartHaha) And Thank You For The Support. Talking AboutAddictions, I Walked Away From Shootin Up And FromCrack Cocaine With No Problem. I Walked Away FromDrinkin No Problem. But These Cigs Are A Bit**. MyHubby Smokes. Smoking Has Been There When Life ThrewMe In The Gutter. Even When I Lost My Mind I Had Cigs.Now To Try To Stop Its More Mental. I Started BuyingMy Own Smokes At 11 And Never Stopped. I Am 34 Now.But I Can And Will Stop. I Have No Choice. It ComesDown To Stop Or No Surg. The Choice Is Simple. AgainTy Del.--- Hepatitis CSupportGr oupForDummies<go_deliman (DOT) com> wrote:> Hi d.> > Good for you. I

have about 5 friends that havedone the process and they are really happy with theresults. No problems to speak of, and would do itagain if needed.> Your brave to do this, and I BELIEVE you can dowhatever it is you want to do.> > Cigs are a nasty habit..I had it for thirty yearsor so, but decided (with God's help) toquit...concentrate on other things and I've been goodto go for three years.> Seriousy, Drinking, Smoking and Food are thehardest things I had to kick in my life. FOODfirst....#1 it's everywhere, they even have freedeals at some of the places you can get it!! and theultimate advertised right on the radio and in Papers,Come on IN!! Were friendly!! ALL YOU CAN EAT for just$5.99. How could anyone say NO? Necessary to live,accepted by even the prudest of people that stillthink like Neandrathals. No one says....look at him...he's getting food and probably gonna' eat it with

twofoxy chicks in his car.. and look at what time it is!!why do they need food at 3:00 AM? We do it right outin public, in front of everyone.... . and it allactuality, it could be killing us...... However,BOOZE/ DOPE/ and now cigs are not as accepted, so youhave to hide, get a little paranoid someone iswatching you... confirming to your inner self it;s notright and therefore making it a little easier to quit.> > BABY....YOU CAN DO IT!! Halls Mentholyptis coughdrops gave me a Strong FORGET ABOUT IT FOR AWHILEFEELING.> > I'll pray for you, and ask God not to hold itagainst you that you know me....hahahah> > Del> > > > > dannegrl <dannegrl2003> wrote:> Slideshow | Print at Home | OrderPrints | Save to: My Photos or My Computer > Click a

photo to view a larger version on Photos. See links above for more options. > Deb I had to give up someone to get out... Theyalready had a huge file on you!!!! lol. They said onlyperson man enough to take you in refused to haul inhis mom..Said he knows better than messing withyou.... lol ok I had to pick on ya. All went well.Because I have such a history of depression, the drsaid I will probably need counseling after surg. Iwill call Dr B's office (baritric surgeon) Monday tofind out what the next step is. They have my medicalrecords, Monday they will have a psych eval. I am notsure if they have submitted a request for approvalfrom medicare yet. I understood them to say they dothat after they get the eval and required records. > > Ok to everyone that is lost, I will explain....> I am VERY obese. I have been on tx 2 times with noreal svr. When I last seen my hep dr he said I

can'ttreat my hep c again until I lose weight. Herecommended looking into Gastric bypass. I had beenlooking at it but had not decided to go for it till hesaid that. To fight my hep I have to lose weight. OKso I have since seen a bariatric surgeon to get theprocess started. I have had all the tests requested sofar. Now I have to stop smoking. The surgeon will nottouch me if I am still smoking. I am a high riskpatient as it is. Smoking increases risks. And it is arisk I can remove. > > I'm not willing to let my liver go down with out afight. This is the steps I have to take to fight tolive.> Surgery scares me but dying is not in my list ofoptions...> > We each have our own path to navigate. how wechose to handle that is up to each of us.> love,> d> > dannella> > > > The larger versions of these photos will beavailable until

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I have been off work now a year.On Dec. 31 my boss called me and wanted me to stop by. He told me that I may be terminated if I didn't have my OS fill out a form that would keep me on the payroll. I did get approved till 3/1. My OS stated that I could return to work only at a desk job and 3-4 hrs a day. Quess what my location of work doesn't have just office work. If I return to work I have to return to the job I had. Which is standing for 6-7 hrs a day. I can't even do 15 min. With my disablity insurance I had to apply for SSD. Been turned down twice, now my insurance has appointed a law firm from land to fight the appeal. Now It wait and see. The last few days I been having trouble with my right hip. It the same side that I'm

trouble with my TKR and revision.Shirley (unknown)

---There is the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Go on the internet and look up the Wage and Hour Division. Get that

toll-free number and call them and tell them what is going on and

ask them how to handle it. They will have a toll-free number for the

office closest to your area for you to call.

There are 12 weeks of Family Medical Leave Act (FMLA) in which your

employer cannot fire you. You will need to get forms for your Dr to

fill out, but I wouldn't do that right away. Take a Medical Leave

first, and then if you think it's going to be more than 12 weeks off

work, have the Dr fill out the FMLA forms.

Isn't there a clause in your contract that covers you when on a

medical leave or if you have restrictions? I was on restrictions for

a couple years BEFORE my hip resurfacing and I had to take a lower

paying position but at least I kept my job. Do you have a physically

demanding job? If not, I wouldn't think there would be any

restrictions as long as you don't have to twist your body etc.

I would definitely look into having a resurfacing. There are

firemen, policemen, karate experts, marathon runners, surfers,

bikers, hockey players, dancers and all manner of physically active

people who are living their lives the way they did before they

started having hip problems. Plus you don't have all the

restrictions you do with a THR.

Go here and read and ask lots of questions. You won't be sorry.

http://health. groups.. com/group/ surfacehippy/ messages

I wish you all good luck. ..... Maxine

I had a hip resurfacing and am so glad I did.

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> I was told by my union rep at work yesterday that if a doctor puts

any at all restrictions on me after my THR next month that they will

not let me come back to work. The only way they will let me work is

if the doc says 100% no restrictions in writing. And if it is still

the same way after two years they will terminate me! I am only 35

and will never be able to find another $50,000 a year job with all

health insurance paid for my family in my condition. I just do not

know what to do anymore now and time is running out for me to make

my decision. I only have 26 weeks of temp disability paid also then

my income will drop to $0 if I am not back to work then. And even

with the disability I am taking a huge cut in weekly wages. I

thought there were provisions in the ADA federal laws that were to

stop workplaces from discriminating against the handicapped like

this. This is a UAW shop. Anyone have any opinions or similar

experiences for me?

>

> Thanks,

> Dale

>

Everyone is raving about the all-new beta.

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Dear , You are doing fine I gained all my weight back went for a fill that did not take and 3 weeks after that went for another fill mean while I am able to eat like a normal person I was so discourged, but I am happy to report that I have lost 40 lbs and continue to do so. My scale moves slow but thats ok it took me a while to get like this. Hang in there you will be amazed after your fill. Dawn Mc

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Also, scales are tricky, no two read the same and daytime weight and

morning weight are worlds apart. For myself I weigh on avarage 4-5

pounds heaveier daytime weight. I had hernia repair surgery a few

days ago and the day after I was 8 pounds heaveier. ( I just went

straight back to bed) Next day it was gone. Any how, what your

friends are saying is this. Your early in the challange, make it

yours, Hang on to what willpower you have in you, get that fill soon

as you can, Stick to your personal scale, morning weight. And start

releasing the old clutter from your brain and your closet.

Best wishs Vickie

12/13/06 265/189 this morning, god it feels like a million bucks

In , Bipley <mybipley@...> wrote:

>

> ....

>

> I'm not sure you are really being fair to yourself. Let's face

reality here, we ALL got a band because we couldn't do it on our

own. You haven't even had a fill, your band isn't even functioning

yet. Honestly, I wouldn't fret over it unless your band is filled

appropriately and you are finding ways to work around it. You aren't

doing that.

>

> Just relax and quit being so hard on yourself. The great thing

about the band is that when it is filled it will work. You also need

to change your thinking and quit being so hard on yourself. So

what... you gained a few pounds during the HEALING phase. But you

have also lost 25lbs! This phase isn't designed for weight loss

anyway.

>

> , if I was this hard on you about a 10# weight gain you would

likely look at me and tell me to buggar off. And rightfully so!

Perhaps you should tell the part of your personality that is being so

judgemental - to buggar off. Relax, wait for a fill before worrying

about weight gain. You are doing great. Besides, if you don't quit

being so hard on yourself, when we go to lunch we'll all have to take

turns smacking you upside the head for not waiting for the band to

work as it is supposed to AFTER a fill. ;o)

>

> The difference is amazing when the band is functioning as it

should. It's just something you have to experience before it really

sinks in that the weight WILL come off when you get a fill. I

promise!

>

> ga cr <bgaroo@...> wrote:

> I have to say today I feel like a bad bandster I know

the time between the first fill is the time to heal but I was at the

Doctors office yesterday and stepped on the scale I don't know why!!

I wont even step on my own scale right now, but I gained 10 of my

35lb loss back I go in on the 30th for my first fill I wish it was

today. The Holidays and 4 birthdays in the last two weeks has done me

in. One of the reasons I got the band is that a year ago the 23rd I

was in a bad accident that dropped me 25 feet off the side of a

mountain in a concrete truck I can say I was being watched out for

walking away from that but I did receive a nice back and rib injury

I am trying to say NO to a second back surgery. But this stops me

from doing the heavy workouts that you all are able to do I do what I

can. I need to get back on track this weight is not doing my back any

good I look at the band as the secret to my recovery. Anyway don't

know why im babiling on you all are my

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You've done a good job of navigating your journey.We are all very proud of you.

Gail

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Deb I had to give up someone to get out... They already had a huge file on you!!!! lol. They said only person man enough to take you in refused to haul in his mom..Said he knows better than messing with you.... lol ok I had to pick on ya. All went well. Because I have such a history of depression, the dr said I will probably need counseling after surg. I will call Dr B's office (baritric surgeon) Monday to find out what the next step is. They have my medical records, Monday they will have a psych eval. I am not sure if they have submitted a request for approval from medicare yet. I understood them to say they do that after they get the eval and required records.

Ok to everyone that is lost, I will explain....

I am VERY obese. I have been on tx 2 times with no real svr. When I last seen my hep dr he said I can't treat my hep c again until I lose weight. He recommended looking into Gastric bypass. I had been looking at it but had not decided to go for it till he said that. To fight my hep I have to lose weight. OK so I have since seen a bariatric surgeon to get the process started. I have had all the tests requested so far. Now I have to stop smoking. The surgeon will not touch me if I am still smoking. I am a high risk patient as it is. Smoking increases risks. And it is a risk I can remove.

I'm not willing to let my liver go down with out a fight. This is the steps I have to take to fight to live.

Surgery scares me but dying is not in my list of options...

We each have our own path to navigate. how we chose to handle that is up to each of us.

love,

d

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I am in the proccess of quitting again.I am down from 22 cigs a day to 5 or 6 hoping to quit for good in a few days.Your doing really good girl,I am proud of you.

Gail

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Del You Are A Wonderful Man, In Case I Had Never ToldYa! Ty For The Prayers(esp The Not Knowin Ya PartHaha) And Thank You For The Support. Talking AboutAddictions, I Walked Away From Shootin Up And FromCrack Cocaine With No Problem. I Walked Away FromDrinkin No Problem. But These Cigs Are A Bit**. MyHubby Smokes. Smoking Has Been There When Life ThrewMe In The Gutter. Even When I Lost My Mind I Had Cigs.Now To Try To Stop Its More Mental. I Started BuyingMy Own Smokes At 11 And Never Stopped. I Am 34 Now.But I Can And Will Stop. I Have No Choice. It ComesDown To Stop Or No Surg. The Choice Is Simple. AgainTy Del.--- Hepatitis CSupportGr oupForDummies<go_deliman (DOT) com> wrote:> Hi d.> > Good for you. I have about 5 friends that havedone the process and they are really happy with theresults. No problems to speak of, and would do itagain if needed.> Your brave to do this, and I BELIEVE you can dowhatever it is you want to do.> > Cigs are a nasty habit..I had it for thirty yearsor so, but decided (with God's help) toquit...concentrate on other things and I've been goodto go for three years.> Seriousy, Drinking, Smoking and Food are thehardest things I had to kick in my life. FOODfirst....#1 it's everywhere, they even have freedeals at some of the places you can get it!! and theultimate advertised right on the radio and in Papers,Come on IN!! Were friendly!! ALL YOU CAN EAT for just$5.99. How could anyone say NO? Necessary to live,accepted by even the prudest of people that stillthink like Neandrathals. No one says....look at him...he's getting food and probably gonna' eat it with twofoxy chicks in his car.. and look at what time it is!!why do they need food at 3:00 AM? We do it right outin public, in front of everyone.... . and it allactuality, it could be killing us...... However,BOOZE/ DOPE/ and now cigs are not as accepted, so youhave to hide, get a little paranoid someone iswatching you... confirming to your inner self it;s notright and therefore making it a little easier to quit.> > BABY....YOU CAN DO IT!! Halls Mentholyptis coughdrops gave me a Strong FORGET ABOUT IT FOR AWHILEFEELING.> > I'll pray for you, and ask God not to hold itagainst you that you know me....hahahah> > Del> > > > > dannegrl <dannegrl2003> wrote:> Slideshow | Print at Home | OrderPrints | Save to: My Photos or My Computer > Click a photo to view a larger version on Photos. See links above for more options. > Deb I had to give up someone to get out... Theyalready had a huge file on you!!!! lol. They said onlyperson man enough to take you in refused to haul inhis mom..Said he knows better than messing withyou.... lol ok I had to pick on ya. All went well.Because I have such a history of depression, the drsaid I will probably need counseling after surg. Iwill call Dr B's office (baritric surgeon) Monday tofind out what the next step is. They have my medicalrecords, Monday they will have a psych eval. I am notsure if they have submitted a request for approvalfrom medicare yet. I understood them to say they dothat after they get the eval and required records. > > Ok to everyone that is lost, I will explain....> I am VERY obese. I have been on tx 2 times with noreal svr. When I last seen my hep dr he said I can'ttreat my hep c again until I lose weight. Herecommended looking into Gastric bypass. I had beenlooking at it but had not decided to go for it till hesaid that. To fight my hep I have to lose weight. OKso I have since seen a bariatric surgeon to get theprocess started. I have had all the tests requested sofar. Now I have to stop smoking. The surgeon will nottouch me if I am still smoking. I am a high riskpatient as it is. Smoking increases risks. And it is arisk I can remove. > > I'm not willing to let my liver go down with out afight. This is the steps I have to take to fight tolive.> Surgery scares me but dying is not in my list ofoptions...> > We each have our own path to navigate. how wechose to handle that is up to each of us.> love,> d> > dannella> > > > The larger versions of these photos will beavailable until April 19, 2007 (90 days) > Share your pictures with PhotoMail from Mail. Learn More Go to Photos > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Never miss an email again!> Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mailarrives. Check it out.____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecastwith the Search weather shortcut.http://tools. search.. com/shortcuts/ #loc_weather

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Excellent post, Craig. What you have said is so true! It's what is

in our heads that causes us a lot of our probems (and always has, I

guess) but the band does buy us time to learn new behaviors. I also

agree that the support given on this site is worth a lot of moeney if

I had to have counseling as required in order to get the band in the

US! And also it is priceless for those of us who live in small

communities where we might be the only banded person.

Thanks for your insights.

Penny

>

> :

>

> The reality is that YOU are the secret to your recovery. The

band is a

> tool. I know it sounds a little trite but you need to keep reminding

> yourself that you have already taken the biggest step and now your

job is to

> LEARN. Beating your self up, while a common pastime, is not as

productive as

> it could be. In my opinion the band buys us time to relearn a

lifetime of

> habits and misconceptions. It took me over 50 years to get here and

I'm

> pretty sure its going to take the rest of my life to correct the

situation.

> Not being pessimistic just aware that the issues are large and

deeply

> embedded. I have been fighting my own similar daemons lately. I

weigh almost

> exactly the same as I did at my second fill, in October. I gained

back 7

> during the holidays and I have only just now shed them. I know I

should get

> a fill but I keep stalling and hanging the blame on my inability to

overcome

> the problems without the aid of the band. How dumb is that? The

band is a

> tool I have chosen and I really should use it to its fullest

advantage. It

> is also not helping that I keep getting negative feedback from

family and

> friends that I have already lost enough and I should just be happy

and not

> worry about it. That simply isn't true. I have run into this

before. I still

> need to lose at least 50 Lbs. I keep pretty good track of what I

eat and do

> so if I am fully honest it is no secret to see why I am not losing.

I am

> " good " 80% of the time but that other 20% can undo everything. That

is the

> 20% that needs the attention. In the end, though, it is true that

by losing

> what I have already lost I am more likely to have the time to learn

and get

> where I need to be. The issue is way more complicated than this and

has to

> do with what we have been conditioned to think, ie this is our

fault, no

> will power, etc as much as it has to do with the physical and

hereditary

> aspects. As hard as it is to keep up with the gigantic volume of

posts I

> think it is essential to do so. The reinforcement provided by this

group is

> easily one of the most therapeutic treatments you can get :-) It

also helps

> to remind ourselves that this is not a race and that it takes the

time it

> takes to remedy both the physical and the psychological issues.

Hang in

> there and learn.

>

> Craig

>

> DOB 3-9-06

>

> 354/244/200

>

>

>

> _____

>

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> [mailto: ] On Behalf Of ga cr

> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 7:20 AM

>

> Subject: (unknown)

>

>

>

> I have to say today I feel like a bad bandster I know the time

between the

> first fill is the time to heal but I was at the Doctors office

yesterday and

> stepped on the scale I don't know why!! I wont even step on my own

scale

> right now, but I gained 10 of my 35lb loss back I go in on the 30th

for my

> first fill I wish it was today. The Holidays and 4 birthdays in the

last two

> weeks has done me in. One of the reasons I got the band is that a

year ago

> the 23rd I was in a bad accident that dropped me 25 feet off the

side of a

> mountain in a concrete truck I can say I was being watched out for

walking

> away from that but I did receive a nice back and rib injury I am

trying to

> say NO to a second back surgery. But this stops me from doing the

heavy

> workouts that you all are able to do I do what I can. I need to get

back on

> track this weight is not doing my back any good I look at the band

as the

> secret to my recovery. Anyway don't know why im babiling on you all

are my

> support and I feel like im messing up here thanks..

>

>

>

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AMEN & AMENJ Currie <giftedtch@...> wrote: Can I hear a big AMEN from everyone???? JenniCraig Carothers <ccarotherssuddenlink (DOT) net> wrote: : The reality is that YOU are the secret to your recovery. The band is a tool. I know it sounds a little trite but you need to keep reminding yourself that you have already taken the biggest step and now your job is to LEARN. Beating your self up, while a common pastime, is not as productive as it could be. In my opinion the band buys us time to relearn a lifetime of habits and misconceptions. It took me over 50 years to get here and I’m pretty sure its going to take the rest of my life to correct the situation. Not being pessimistic just aware that the issues are large and deeply embedded. I have been fighting my own similar daemons lately. I weigh almost exactly the

same as I did at my second fill, in October. I gained back 7 during the holidays and I have only just now shed them. I know I should get a fill but I keep stalling and hanging the blame on my inability to overcome the problems without the aid of the band. How dumb is that? The band is a tool I have chosen and I really should use it to its fullest advantage. It is also not helping that I keep getting negative feedback from family and friends that I have already lost enough and I should just be happy and not worry about it. That simply isn’t true. I have run into this before. I still need to lose at least 50 Lbs. I keep pretty good track of what I eat and do so if I am fully honest it is no secret to see why I am not losing. I am “good” 80% of the time but that other 20% can undo everything. That is the 20% that needs the attention. In the end, though, it is true that by losing what I have already lost I am more likely to have the time to learn and get where I need to be.

The issue is way more complicated than this and has to do with what we have been conditioned to think, ie this is our fault, no will power, etc as much as it has to do with the physical and hereditary aspects. As hard as it is to keep up with the gigantic volume of posts I think it is essential to do so. The reinforcement provided by this group is easily one of the most therapeutic treatments you can get J It also helps to remind ourselves that this is not a race and that it takes the time it takes to remedy both the physical and the psychological issues. Hang in there and learn. Craig DOB 3-9-06 354/244/200 From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of ga crSent: Friday, January 19, 2007 7:20 AM Subject: (unknown) I have to say today I feel like a bad bandster I know the time between the first fill is the time to heal but I was at the Doctors office yesterday and stepped on the scale I don't know why!! I

wont even step on my own scale right now, but I gained 10 of my 35lb loss back I go in on the 30th for my first fill I wish it was today. The Holidays and 4 birthdays in the last two weeks has done me in. One of the reasons I got the band is that a year ago the 23rd I was in a bad accident that dropped me 25 feet off the side of a mountain in a concrete truck I can say I was being watched out for walking away from that but I did receive a nice back and rib injury I am trying to say NO to a second back surgery. But this stops me from doing the heavy workouts that you all are able to do I do what I can. I need to get back on track this weight is not doing my back any good I look at the band as the secret to my recovery. Anyway don't know why im babiling on you all are my support and I feel like im messing up here thanks.. Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Autos' Green Center. Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try

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WOW Vickie, you have done great!Vickie s <hangerdaisyskunk@...> wrote: --- Also, scales are tricky, no two read the same and daytime weight and morning weight are worlds apart. For myself I weigh on avarage 4-5 pounds heaveier daytime weight. I had hernia repair surgery a few days ago and the day after I was 8 pounds heaveier. ( I just went straight back to bed) Next day it was gone. Any how, what your friends are saying is this. Your early in the challange, make it yours, Hang on to what

willpower you have in you, get that fill soon as you can, Stick to your personal scale, morning weight. And start releasing the old clutter from your brain and your closet.Best wishs Vickie12/13/06 265/189 this morning, god it feels like a million bucksIn , Bipley <mybipley@...> wrote:>> ....> > I'm not sure you are really being fair to yourself. Let's face reality here, we ALL got a band because we couldn't do it on our own. You haven't even had a fill, your band isn't even functioning yet. Honestly, I wouldn't fret over it unless your band is filled appropriately and you are finding ways to work around it. You aren't doing that.> > Just relax and quit being so hard on yourself. The great thing about the band is that when it is filled it will work. You also need

to change your thinking and quit being so hard on yourself. So what... you gained a few pounds during the HEALING phase. But you have also lost 25lbs! This phase isn't designed for weight loss anyway.> > , if I was this hard on you about a 10# weight gain you would likely look at me and tell me to buggar off. And rightfully so! Perhaps you should tell the part of your personality that is being so judgemental - to buggar off. Relax, wait for a fill before worrying about weight gain. You are doing great. Besides, if you don't quit being so hard on yourself, when we go to lunch we'll all have to take turns smacking you upside the head for not waiting for the band to work as it is supposed to AFTER a fill. ;o)> > The difference is amazing when the band is functioning as it should. It's just something you have to experience before it really sinks in that the weight WILL come off when you get a

fill. I promise!> > ga cr <bgaroo@...> wrote:> I have to say today I feel like a bad bandster I know the time between the first fill is the time to heal but I was at the Doctors office yesterday and stepped on the scale I don't know why!! I wont even step on my own scale right now, but I gained 10 of my 35lb loss back I go in on the 30th for my first fill I wish it was today. The Holidays and 4 birthdays in the last two weeks has done me in. One of the reasons I got the band is that a year ago the 23rd I was in a bad accident that dropped me 25 feet off the side of a mountain in a concrete truck I can say I was being watched out for walking away from that but I did receive a nice back and rib injury I am trying to say NO to a second back surgery. But this stops me from doing the heavy workouts that you all are able to do I do what I can. I need to get back on track this weight is not doing my

back any good I look at the band as the secret to my recovery. Anyway don't know why im babiling on you all are my> support and I feel like im messing up here thanks.. > > ---------------------------------> Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Autos' Green Center. > > > > > ---------------------------------> No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with for Mobile. Get started.>

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Hello,

Sorry to hear about your son ! that is wise to get him into see a eye doc with

the jra one can never take chances. Does your son rub his eyes alot esp when he

wakes in the morning? Jra its self can cause iritis an you can't see the

inflamtion the eye doc will be able to see it thru a special eye instrument.

Keep us informed an good luck at the eye doc.

Lynn Mom; 17 cfs,fibro,jra,ibs,migraine; Cory 15 (jra?),Meg 22 RA

ERIK OTTERLEI <erikate15@...> wrote:

has anyone actually seen symptoms of the eye

inflammation? I've read that you cannot see this in

plain view, but I was wondering if anyone has actual

experiences. Our son is two and newly diagnosed with

pauci jra...we are getting into the opt. right away

but he always has red baggy eyes...could be from the

lack of sleep, he is usually only asleep for two hours

at a time, but i was just wondering.

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I personally detected it two times since my daughters. Diagnosis and both times

by accident. My daughter was in our front Family room, the sun came in the room

just right and the pupil had a distortion to it. I called and they got me in

that next day. She was in a flare.

Second time unlike the first time. Aubrey was swimming without goggles as she

always did and her left eye only was very red.....No pain no nothing. I took a

pin light out to check her pupils and she screamed when the light hit her left

eye. I again called and again inflammation. That is our experience. It is very

rare to be able to detect a thing. My ped. Opt told me mothers know best...

Terri And Aubrey

(unknown)

has anyone actually seen symptoms of the eye

inflammation? I've read that you cannot see this in

plain view, but I was wondering if anyone has actual

experiences. Our son is two and newly diagnosed with

pauci jra...we are getting into the opt. right away

but he always has red baggy eyes...could be from the

lack of sleep, he is usually only asleep for two hours

at a time, but i was just wondering.

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no. i did have 3 sections. one of my kids has seizures the others don't. i

know lots of other women with " normal " children who've had c-sections. i

haven't heard anything about that being a cause.

[ ] (unknown)

Can anyone tell me if a Cesarean is linked to children that have

seizures.I did have one and daughter 9months later had seizure. just curious.

thank you

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Hi,

Killing yeast is not enough.

It's excreta after toasting is still toxic.

Mycotoxins.

Avoidance is the solution as per Dr. 's manual.

Don't ask Who is Dr. .

MM

DOREEN TABOR wrote:

> I read somewhere that Ezekiel's bread was O.k. on this diet but when I read

the ingredients at the store there was fresh yeast in it ?! Anyone have input on

this? I've also heard if you toast bread it will kill the yeast.

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Yeast is well proven as a health food, fungal mycotoxins are not

produced by yeast, and alcohol, a product of yeast, is not a mycotoxin.

While we're discussing 's advice on bowel health we should note

that her oversights with regard to bowel health indicate to me that

this realm of biology is foreign to her; see the explanation on my

inulin page:

http://tinyurl.com/2m29z

My page points out that avoidance of a large part of the methanol

toxicity highlighted by would normally involve correcting bowel

dysbiosis, but doing so conspicuously absent from the manual.

Duncan

> > I read somewhere that Ezekiel's bread was O.k. on this diet but

when I read the ingredients at the store there was fresh yeast in

it ?! Anyone have input on this? I've also heard if you toast bread it

will kill the yeast.

>

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Hi,

If you read Dr. 's manual carefully, she has given pictures of

mold growth on bread & do caution that the excreta is very toxic,

even after toasting.

She suggests baking your own bread & eat within 2hrs.

MM

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Duncan Crow wrote:

> Yeast is well proven as a health food, fungal mycotoxins are not

> produced by yeast, and alcohol, a product of yeast, is not a mycotoxin.

>

> While we're discussing 's advice on bowel health we should note

> that her oversights with regard to bowel health indicate to me that

> this realm of biology is foreign to her; see the explanation on my

> inulin page:

> http://tinyurl.com/2m29z

>

> My page points out that avoidance of a large part of the methanol

> toxicity highlighted by would normally involve correcting bowel

> dysbiosis, but doing so conspicuously absent from the manual.

>

> Duncan

>

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I agree there can be mold on bread, but mold is a fungus, not yeast.

There can well be mycotoxins in stale bread or mouldy anything, but

the yeast and the nutrients are NOT to blame for the mold.

My perspective on mycotoxins is that we've been exposed to them and

worse since time began and we're fairly resistant, just like the

other animals are.

I would caution people to avoid an obsessive response like that

exhibited by many people who have read 's work.

Duncan

> > Yeast is well proven as a health food, fungal mycotoxins are not

> > produced by yeast, and alcohol, a product of yeast, is not a

mycotoxin.

> >

> > While we're discussing 's advice on bowel health we should

note

> > that her oversights with regard to bowel health indicate to me

that

> > this realm of biology is foreign to her; see the explanation on

my

> > inulin page:

> > http://tinyurl.com/2m29z

> >

> > My page points out that avoidance of a large part of the methanol

> > toxicity highlighted by would normally involve correcting

bowel

> > dysbiosis, but doing so conspicuously absent from the

manual.

> >

> > Duncan

> >

>

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I'm still confused ..can I eat the ezekiel bread..1 slice a day?

Re: (unknown)

I agree there can be mold on bread, but mold is a fungus, not yeast.

There can well be mycotoxins in stale bread or mouldy anything, but

the yeast and the nutrients are NOT to blame for the mold.

My perspective on mycotoxins is that we've been exposed to them and

worse since time began and we're fairly resistant, just like the

other animals are.

I would caution people to avoid an obsessive response like that

exhibited by many people who have read 's work.

Duncan

> > Yeast is well proven as a health food, fungal mycotoxins are not

> > produced by yeast, and alcohol, a product of yeast, is not a

mycotoxin.

> >

> > While we're discussing 's advice on bowel health we should

note

> > that her oversights with regard to bowel health indicate to me

that

> > this realm of biology is foreign to her; see the explanation on

my

> > inulin page:

> > http://tinyurl. com/2m29z

> >

> > My page points out that avoidance of a large part of the methanol

> > toxicity highlighted by would normally involve correcting

bowel

> > dysbiosis, but doing so conspicuously absent from the

manual.

> >

> > Duncan

> >

>

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Hi,

I have twin boys age 6, diagnosed with high functioning autism. We live in

Louisville. You are not alone, here is a web site Families for Effective Autism

Treatment of Louisville www.featoflouisville.org. They have an email tree. You

can ask any member for help regarding treatment, services and schools. I wish

you well.

Eydie

Eydie

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HELLO!!! I posted my first message at work today and I'm still not really sure

what I'm doing!!! This is my first online chat group.

Long story short.......Will is 6 1/2. He's always been " peculiar " . For the last

6 years, I've honestly thought I had no business being a mother and that I had

spoiled or warped my son terribly! Then I had Sam (who is now 1). From the time

Sam could communicate he was different than Will, " more social " I used to say.

Long story short.......my dearest friend in the entire world and the grace of

God opened my eyes to Asperger's Syndrome. From the first minute I read about

it, I knew that was Will. I just found out Monday from the school that he

qualified for special services under the Autism Spectrum. We are going to

Louisville (I live in KY) in March for an official diagnosis.

It's been so nice reading all of your comments and hearing stories about

children that are like Will!!!! I hope to talk to all of you soon.

( I think my screen name will be Rex. That's what Will wants his name to

be since he IS a T-REX you know!!! )

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Welcome (aka Rex!)

There is such a difference in kids!!! I wonder how my oldest two just knew how

to do everything...and a struggles and we have to teach her so much that

comes naturally to most NT kids..

Hope you enjoy this group

- C.

Mom to Cassie 15 PCOS, Austin 13 ADHD and a 3 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

( ) (unknown)

HELLO!!! I posted my first message at work today and I'm still not really sure

what I'm doing!!! This is my first online chat group.

Long story short.......Will is 6 1/2. He's always been " peculiar " . For the

last 6 years, I've honestly thought I had no business being a mother and that I

had spoiled or warped my son terribly! Then I had Sam (who is now 1). From the

time Sam could communicate he was different than Will, " more social " I used to

say. Long story short.......my dearest friend in the entire world and the grace

of God opened my eyes to Asperger's Syndrome. From the first minute I read about

it, I knew that was Will. I just found out Monday from the school that he

qualified for special services under the Autism Spectrum. We are going to

Louisville (I live in KY) in March for an official diagnosis.

It's been so nice reading all of your comments and hearing stories about

children that are like Will!!!! I hope to talk to all of you soon.

( I think my screen name will be Rex. That's what Will wants his name to

be since he IS a T-REX you know!!! )

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LOL!!! I had Scooby Doo living with me for about 3 wks!!!!! LOL!!!!!! My son is

6 (TS, ADHD, OCD, and possible AS) we are still working on a dx for As. The docs

aren't sure because he only shares one " characteristic " with As patients. And it

is not a dx criteria, but most AS people have it. They would like to do further

testing. Although we don't have a dx so much that I hear on this group sounds

like my son!!!! And regradless if he does or not, I have learned coping skills

and more importantly that I am not alone!!!!! I don't always respond here,

because I don't always have something to say, but I do learn a lot! Welcome

" Rex " ! Blessings!

Allcock <jallcock105@...> wrote: HELLO!!! I posted my first

message at work today and I'm still not really sure what I'm doing!!! This is my

first online chat group.

Long story short.......Will is 6 1/2. He's always been " peculiar " . For the last

6 years, I've honestly thought I had no business being a mother and that I had

spoiled or warped my son terribly! Then I had Sam (who is now 1). From the time

Sam could communicate he was different than Will, " more social " I used to say.

Long story short.......my dearest friend in the entire world and the grace of

God opened my eyes to Asperger's Syndrome. From the first minute I read about

it, I knew that was Will. I just found out Monday from the school that he

qualified for special services under the Autism Spectrum. We are going to

Louisville (I live in KY) in March for an official diagnosis.

It's been so nice reading all of your comments and hearing stories about

children that are like Will!!!! I hope to talk to all of you soon.

( I think my screen name will be Rex. That's what Will wants his name to

be since he IS a T-REX you know!!! )

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Alli, I am having the same problem that you are having. I have 2 cc in my band and no restriction and I also have the gurgling/ growling sounds. I have had 4 fills and going for #5 the 25th. I lost so good in the first few weeks but have been banded since May and not losing now. When you find out what the problem is please let me know Shirley Thanks I also keep the hiccups.Alli Dye <allygator1963@...> wrote: Hi all, Well I have 2.4 cc and no restriction yet. What I do have though is a lot of gurgling/ growling sounds coming up my throat when I eat. It sounds like aliens have invaded my body and are coming up for air or something!!! And if that isn't enough of a side show while having lunch, I topped that off with a mean case of the hiccups that lasted 4/ever!!! LOL Any advice on what is causing this and how to avoid it??? Happy Valentine's Eve to you all! Ally Don't be flakey. Get for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.

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In a message dated 2/17/2007 11:41:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

brirob73@... writes:

mainly

because i joined right around the beginning of the homosexuality

discussion...and am anxiously awaiting the END of it. i've seen a

couple people post that perhaps it's time to drop it and move on, but

that has fallen on deaf...fingers?

at any rate, i look forward to learning and sharing...once i can just

stop automatically deleting all emails because this

one topic just won't die.

I agree...I keep deleting posts...because I am so tired of this

topic....maybe those who want to keep this discussion going could do it off

list?

Looking forward to moving on!!! Beth

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I'm with you....I joined just a couple of weeks ago and it wasn't for this.

Can we please move on?

On 2/17/07, brimonang <brirob73@...> wrote:

>

> i joined this group about a week ago, and this is my first post, mainly

> because i joined right around the beginning of the homosexuality

> discussion...and am anxiously awaiting the END of it. i've seen a

> couple people post that perhaps it's time to drop it and move on, but

> that has fallen on deaf...fingers?

> at any rate, i look forward to learning and sharing...once i can just

> stop automatically deleting all emails because this

> one topic just won't die.

>

> sincerely

> b

>

>

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