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Mable, You are a Dear! Also I'm very happy about your house. The kids

sound as if they are doing wonderful! I;m glad your nieces are there to

help. Have a nice day.

Kelli....Mom to: , age 22, Greg, age 18, Twins: Set one- April &

Ash age 15, Set two- (ds) & Tyler, age 4.

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doris...welcome u are in the rite spot....i am have suffered from lyme for 11

years and have been tottaly disabled since 96 with this disease......cranky

...yes we do and can get very cranky....i also have an 8 yo duaghter who was

siagnosed with lyme 2 years ago...she recived early tratment ( which i did

not get) and has been symptom free up until about a month ago.....she now

suffers from some fatigue and achyness...all lyme related......please do not

let ur doctor tell u that after 28 days of treatment ur son is

cured.....studies now disprove that theory although many docs still prescribe

it....welcome to the wonderfull world of lyme where nothing is what it really

seems and u need to educate urself and be a pts advocate...among other

things.....shout out ur ???? " s most of us here can answer tehm ...many of

them in our sleep.....llol

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yes this is a symptom...when ya don't feel good ..ya get cranky and

irritable...this is lyme disease...one of the many variables....

In a message dated 6/15/00 4:51:19 PM, Pinkee-29@... writes:

<<I have noticed since we found the rash and everything,is that he

seems to be so irritable and very cranky lately.Is this a symptom of the

Lyme Disease?>>

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Hi!!!!Well I have an appointment for my son on Wednesday....But it is

with a regular pediatric doctor...I have to find a doctor that

specializes in the Lyme Disease...But this is hard to do with no

insurance at all..But I figure this is good right now that way he can

get more meds.I will let everyone know what the doctor says on

Wednesday...If anyone knows a good doctor that handles Lyme in the

hudson valley region....around Poughkeepsie,Goshen, and surrounding

areas please let me know so I can get that going and see how much it

will cost.Thanks,Doris

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In a message dated 6/24/00 12:29:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

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<< fyi this was in the Toiletries Library Recipes for Bath Salts section... (

I love their online recipes)

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1 lb. baking soda

8 oz. wt. citric acid

8 oz. wt. cornstarch

fragrance as desired

Whisk baking soda in a bowl to break up any lumps and set it aside. Combine

citric acid and cornstarch in another bowl. Add fragrance to citric

acid-cornstarch mixture and blend well. Combine fragrance mixture with

baking soda and blend well. Store in an air-tight container. Use 1/4-1/2

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I keep seeing Citric Acid. Can you get that at a grocers too? I'm playing

and experimenting to see what lines I would like to work with! And by the

way, having a real ball!

Connie

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hello donna, i was diagnosed with systemic jra when i was 5. i know how

your son feels. by the time i was 17 i could hardly do anything on my own.

i could not sit down unless i backed up to the couch and just fell backwards

on my butt. sound like your son? then, i couldn't have gotten up if the

house caught on fire! don't even ask me about stairs, that was impossible.

basically if you wanted me to go somewhere, you'd have to pick me up and put

me there. my joints were so badly damaged the docs didnt know how i moved

at all, and because of the damage to my legs and the pain, it took over my

whole body. it took me forever to feed myself cuz my arms hurt so bad to

move, especially to lift them to my face. i couldnt brush my hair or put on

my deodorant anymore. the only steps i took were horrible and hardly ever

alone since i needed help to get up anyway. i walked only from the bed to

the toilet, hardly ever walked down the hall to the living room anymore. it

was just too hard, hurt to bad. if i was an animal, someone would've shot

me to put me out of my misery. but, then my life changed. at 18, i had my

right hip replaced. six months later, i had both knees replaced. if your

son needs knee replacements, i do not recommend doing both at one time. six

months after that, i did my left hip. now, several years later, my left

shoulder. but don't worry. now i can walk til the cows come home. i have

no trouble feeding myself except for the new shoulder cuz it is still

clumsy. i can dress myself except for socks. i can brush my hair, shave,

deodorize, bathe myself. i use things like a shower brush to wash my hair.

i use a stick with a razor taped to the end to shave my legs(my own

invention). i also use a dressing stick to help put on shirts that have to

go over the head, plus it has a hook on the end to help pull up jeans. i

hope you will know that he can make it, if you have any questions about my

experience, i'd be glad to help. thanks, brandy

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Hi Donna,

My daughter Kelsey, age 3, was diagnosed in April with polyarticular jra.

She started having problems with her right knee in April of 98, so it really

took us a year to get a diagnosis. She is also on Naprosyn and has been

going to physical therapy twice a week since diagnosed, now starting

occupational therapy for her hands and wrists. I can imagine how hard it

must have been to go through so many years of not knowing what was wrong with

your son. I know how hard it was for us to watch Kelsey go around with

swollen knees and limping, unexplained fevers, and just not feeling well and

acting as a toddler should sometimes was very upsetting. We went from having

an active baby who started walking at 7 months to a lethargic toddler. Very

scary, too. I have found this group to be very helpful and supportive, and

I'm sure you will as well.

Take care,

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Hi Donna,

It must have been a relief to at least finally get a diagnosis, after

not knowing for so many years. I can't believe it took so long before he

was able to be treated. Is it because his symptoms were unlike what is

normally seen in JRA pateints? I don't think there's currently any

medication that can reverse the joint damage that has already taken

place. Physical therapy and surgery may be the only way to help that.

Without a good NSAID to control inflammation, and a DMARD, even more

destruction to the joints might occur down the line. That's probably why

they've been prescribed.

After a ten month trial on Enbrel, it's surprising that the doctors are

still not sure if it's working. From what I understand, the response is

usually a lot quicker. If someone is going to be a responder, they

usually do so within the first 3 months. Some after just the first or

second injection! Then again, each person is different. And we don't

have any personal experience with Enbrel. I'm just basing that on what

I've read and heard about it.

Thanks for sharing your son's story. It's good to hear that he has a

positive outlook, despite all the struggles he's been through. Are there

any joint replacement surgeries planned for the near future?

Take Care,

Georgina

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> Hi anybody,

> I am new to this group. I have a 15 year old son who was diagnosed 2

> 1/2 years ago with polyarticular JRA. After ten years of seeing many

> pediatricians and rhematologists, we finally found our answers at

> Shriner's Hospital for Crippled Children. Since his diagnosis he

> started taking naprosyn which game him all the side effects that they

> tell you about. We replaced it with Celebrex which his body seems to

> tolerate better. He also takes Methotrexate. Metho has definitely

> taken a lot of his pain away but has not stopped the prgression of

> the

> disease. His diagnosis was so late that he already had joint damage

> to his hips, knees, wrists and neck. Fortunately, at this time we

> have excellent insurance and he has been taking Enbrel since

> September. We still don't know if it's working yet, but he is having

> many more good days. I worried about the side effects of all of

> these

> meds but not being aggressive with this disease is more harmfull than

> the side effects. Because he was diagnosed so late (We think he has

> had this since age 1) He has so much joint damage that he cannot do

> very simple things, like put on his pants, socks and shoes. He

> cannot

> pick up something from the floor, he cannot sit on the floor and

> could

> not get up from the floor if he did. He cannot turn his neck in any

> direction. He cannot bend his wrists. He cannot open a coke bottle.

>

> Sitting and getting up from the couch is very difficult. And through

> all this he has a wonderful positive attitude. I don't think I could

> do it. He is very brave.

>

> Donna

> Bossier City, LA

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Dear Kandy,

Don't breast-feed too long, but you probably know this. About

4-7 months is sufficient. If longer, allergens can be passed down through

the milk -- something we candidiasis sufferers do not need.

There is so much to say. See Guy Smiley's e-mail on candidiasis

egroups about the juice regimen he was on for a while. Also see the

book, THE CURE FOR ALL DISEASES, by Dr. Hulda . Also, see website,

health.microworld.com/html/zapper.html

To kill all the parasites with diet and zapping is to also kill candida,

since it is a parasite. Then a liver cleanse, or two, as outlined in her

book, is the thing.

Be talking with you soon. Glad to help, and will talk later.

-Sincerely, D'Amico

Kandy wrote:

Hi, I am new to the list and sure could use some

help with a yeast problem I

have been passing back and forth with my nursling.

I feel like I have tried EVERYTHING and we still have it.

I feel that I

have had it for years so it is deeply into my system. Can

it be gotten out?

I have had it since WAY before the baby so helping him get it gone

doesn't

do us much good when I just give it back to him. I don't

want to stop

breastfeeding either. I believe the benefits to him are much

greater than

the problem with the yeast.

I suppose I should try a naturopath as I heard something about

on an earlier

post.

Well, nice to meet you all and hope we come up with some solutions

together!

Kandy

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I am glad to hear the good news.

I can also relate to computer withdrawl, I keep my web tv as a spare, like a

spare tire and can activate it, if my real computer goes out.

I had an old computer, that was sooo bad that I put it out for bulk

collection and felt good when it was picked up. I spent more time fixing it

than I did reading my mail.

Sue Ellen Bowman

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> Hi everyone,

>

> Haven't written for awhile because our computer got hit by lightening, so

> had to get a new one, ordered it in the mail and guess what , troubles!

> Anyway my husband hooked up this really old one we had lying around and at

> least i can read my posts and reply now. almost going through withdrawals

> not being able to see any e- mail not really but sure had a lot to catch

up

> on

>

> Anyway I am now in my 4th month, where did the time go?? Got my results

> back from my 3 month pcr and it was undectable so feel really great

about

> that. Am hoping to clear this thing even though i have 1b. if not at

least

> my liver is getting a much needed rest.

>

> Think of you often and say prayers for everyone with this dreaded disease

>

> Suzy

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Congratulations Suzy! And good luck on remaining

undetectable. I'm a 1b too, and anytime I hear the

good results from another 1b it gives me some hope

too.

Hope you get you computer problems solved. I don't

know what I'd do without mine any more! I've always

been an information 'junkie', so this new world of

computers and the internet has been heaven for me. I

KNOW I'd go through withdrawal!

Take care,

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Elbe wrote:

> ><Is that true? You just squirt some breastmilk in the ear and it clears up

> the ear infections?>

>

> It really did work for me. I was skeptical at first. The La Leche

> League Leaders of the group I attend said to give it a try . . . what

> harm could it do? Well, I had just gone in to dr. and he had

> another ear infection and we had already been on several antibiotics

> so I decided to give it a try. I had the antibiotic filled, but

> never gave it to him but squirted some milk in his ears while he was

> asleep at night and during his nap. In a few days, he seemed to be

> doing better. Went back to the doctor for the follow up and he said

> to me " Well, looks like the antibiotic finally cleared the infection

> up . . . " and I never even gave him any of it.

Did you tell the doc that? I'd be curious about his reaction.

> I have heard some of

> the other moms in this group say they have done this with great

> results. Some of the homebirth MD's my friends go to strongly

> support doing this as well.

>

> Hey, like they told me, it cant hurt . . . there is something in the

> milk that kills bacteria and viruses on contact is what I think I was

> told. Makes sense when you see how lots of kids who are not

> breastfed get sick and the breastfed ones stay healthy due to

> antibodies. So I guess a topical application can work too!

>

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At 01:45 PM 07/27/2000 GMT, you wrote:

>Is not mumps the illness that is more mild in females and also has the

>potential to cause reproductive damage in males? Perhaps there could be a

>link to that portion of the MMR, making males slightly more at risk.

>????????

>Katrina

>

>

That's the way everyone should be thinking! Who knows. Mumps is really

the same in both sexes but after puberty a male can get inflammation of

testicles with it and therefore become sterile, but this too is rare and

EXTREMELY rare in BOTH testicles. Usually just one involved and doesn't

become sterile.

Sheri

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>Diane Emerick wrote:

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>>Someone asked me this question and I have no answer. Could you help me out?

>>and also, give me a couple reasons why the compensation act is a joke.

>>Thanks.

>>

>>One question I have is if autism is linked to a certain vaccine, why is it

>>so much more prevalent in male children than female? I've never found the

>>answer to that one.

>>

>>Diane

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Your question is too open-ended. I don't do business with people because of

their size, that's ridiculous. That's not something I take into account

when shopping for things I need. I choose because of location, price,

cleanliness, etc.

Judi

At 08:40 PM 7/31/00 CDT, Mitzi wrote:

>I would like to know from anyone that is using this listserve, who would use

>rather use business and personal dealings with- a little person or

>average-size person? Why? This question has nothing to do with

>discrimination but I just want to know who are you more comfortable with

>when it comes to handling something for you.

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In a message dated 7/31/00 9:42:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

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<< I would like to know from anyone that is using this listserve, who would

use

rather use business and personal dealings with- a little person or

average-size person? >>

It doesn't matter who I deal with as far as business and personal dealings as

long as they are reputable and good hearted people. It doesn't matter to me

if they are short statured or average sized. There are good and bad in both.

Helen

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I would rather do business with the person that knew what they were doing. Size

does NOT matter. a

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I would like to know from anyone that is using this listserve, who would use

rather use business and personal dealings with- a little person or

average-size person? Why? This question has nothing to do with

discrimination but I just want to know who are you more comfortable with

when it comes to handling something for you.

Mitzi

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This seems to me a question about discrimination!! When I shop or do

business, it has nothing to do with a person's size, or appearance. I look

for a clean place, that's affordable, and convenient, it has nothing to do

with a person's looks.

Liz( e's mom)

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You may have heard of two types of cancer aids which I will mention.

One, MGN 3, manufactured by Lane Laboratories, and Drl Johanna Budwig's flax

seed oil/protein diet.

They may help.

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I have just got the consultation document to comment on for the Chief

executive - I have to read the thing yet. It is rather odd that HVs are

not named as part of the constitution especially if they have a

register. Does that also mean that if there were cases of misconduct

going to the council - how would that work - or is that a daft question?

Does it also mean that they would be not be required to seek health

visiting advice? It probably spells that out in the document so I must

read it.

In message <l0313031eb5b4a86b8589@[137.73.105.149]>, Cowley

<sarah.cowley@...> writes

>The consultation document about replacement regulatory arrangements when

>the UKCC is disbanded can be downloaded from:

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>http://www.doh.gov.uk/pdfs/nmcconsult.pdf

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>Responses are required within 3 months. The health visiting register is to

>stay and there are to be 12 professional representatives: four nurses,

>four midwives and four health visitors (one of each from each country) as

>well as 11 appointed lay representatives. There is the possibility of

>expanding the Council to 30; how that should work is one of the

>consultation questions.

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>Health visiting is not named in the constitution of the Council, committees

>or glossary of what constitutes 'the professions'.

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TLS wrote:

> please if there is anyone online.....well i am going

> to scream.

> if anyone is, please let me know.

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> love,

> leigh

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I feel its vital HV are mentioned in the consultation. We may need to ask why

we have been omitted. We are valued workforce and I am sure Mrs Blair if

given the opportunity would agree

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