Re: (unknown)

September 28, 2003

I open the capsule and dump in my son's juice right before he eats-drinks

with no problems.

(unknown)

I am at my wits end, I have tried everything I can think of to get my

4 yr. old son to swallow the enzymes. I am convinced that they would

improve some of his behaviors and benefit him, but it is so

frustrating!! If I try to leave it whole and hide it in his food he

just spits it out, if I open the capsule & try to hide it in food he

gets suspicious & won't take anything from my hand. He is a very

selective eater! I tried to hide it in pudding once - well it broke

the puuding down to water! It is hard to hide a pill in chicken

strips, french fries, crackers, nutri bar, toast. This is the limit

of his diet! If I open the capsule & try to dissolve it in water and

mix it with his juice would this maybe work? Can I pre dissolve it

and put it in the fridge to send to the sitters? How long is it good

for saved in the fridge? Plus he tends to graze it can take him 30 -

45 mins to eat a meal, should he receive a larger amnt of the enzyme

to accomadate this? If anyone has a few moments or any suggestions

please let me know. I really feel if I could get the enzymes in to

him they would help Thanks Desperate mom to Colton age 4

September 28, 2003

kim,

Did u feel great right away? Were you sick from your implants? I feel awful right now its been 4 days since explant.

Barbara

September 28, 2003

Barb,

My Dr. tried to remove mine " as is " and one ended up ripping on the

way out of me, resulting in the solution being spilled in my body.

So far everything seems to be fine. My explant date was Sept 2nd.

feeling great.

love,

~kim

> That is what my ps was going to do, but he was able to remove them

without

> draining them because my incisions were so long to begin with. They

just

> extract the saline, so it doesn't go into your body. I had the same

concern

> with my surgery when I thought he would remove them that way. I'm

sure it's

> fine.

>

> Colleen

>

> From: " barbsul2002 " <BARBY4271@A...>

> Reply-

> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 00:04:34 -0000

>

> Subject: (unknown)

>

> I found out today that my implants were deflated inside i guess he

> couldnt remove them as is ,which he was suppose to do but he said he

> ggot all the capsules out. Did anyone have them removed like this ?,

> i asked if any solution went inside and he said no he punctured it

> and drained it out.do u think this will be ok?

>

> barbara

>

September 29, 2003

America's other drug problem! Government supported, loved by Wall Street, driving up health care costs (which limits options for additional benefits, i.e. Chiropractic). This is making me angry and depressed... Maybe I need Zoloft, those people on TV sure look happy!

Seitz, DC Tuality Physicians

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Hillsboro, OR 97123

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Because many of the 29 >studies presented at the hearing reported positive public results - like >increased communication between patients and doctors - the prevailing >prediction among supporters of the ads was that the drug agency would >allow the ads to continue in much the same form as today. >"It's rare that you get such validation from a meeting like this," said >Dick O'Brien, executive vice president and director for government >affairs at the American Association of Advertising Agencies, a longtime >advocate for the ads. "This is one where you feel all of a sudden like >you're on the side of angels." >"My hope is that these two days were so positive that they may help to >put this controversy to bed once and for all." >Even critics were not optimistic that the agency would make significant >changes. They said the event, at which research was presented by >attendees from Pfizer to Time Inc. to the Mayo Clinic, told just part of >the story. Calls for change continued from critics like Senator > of North Carolina, a candidate for the Democratic presidential >nomination. >"Senator thinks it's misleading for an ad to show a woman running >through a field while the fine print says 'may cause serious side >effects,' " said Briggs, the senator's press secretary. "The >F.D.A. should require drug manufacturers to provide fair and balanced >information about a drug's risks as well as the potential benefits." >Meanwhile, though, the ads are the darlings of broadcasting and >publishing executives. Even in an uncertain economic climate, spending in >the prescription-drug category totaled more than $2.5 billion last year, >up from nearly $1.6 billion in 1999, according to TNS Media >Intelligence/CMR, part of Sofres. >More than just revenue, magazine executives said, the ads even give >readers another reason to buy their publications. >"Both the advertising and the editorial product provide information, and >that presents a benefit to the reader," said Ellen Oppenheim, executive >vice president and chief marketing officer at the Magazine Publishers of >America. Even some F.D.A. officials said the meeting showed that the ads >can also have public health benefits. >"It's been an incredible sea change, from 'Is it a good thing?' to 'This >is a good thing, and how can we make it better?' " said J. Pitts, >the drug agency's associate commissioner for external relations. >Making it better might mean communicating risks more effectively, he >said: "That's exactly what we're studying now. We're going to try to >reach our own judgment on what would be the best path forward." The >agency expects to propose any rule changes by the end of the year. >At Pfizer, executives said few if any changes were necessary. "We feel >that the regulations are working the way they are," said Dorothy Wetzel, >the company's vice president for United States consumer marketing of >pharmaceuticals. >"My hope is that whatever comes out of the meeting really advances our >ability as an industry to effectively communicate with consumers," she >said. "It would be a shame if what comes out makes it more complicated >and confusing." >But some critics showed no sign of backing off. >"This is a really unlevel playing field for consumers," said Larry D. >Sasich, a research analyst at the health research group of Public >Citizen, a consumer advocacy group. "You have an industry that maintains >that a 30-second or 60-second television spot empowers consumers to make >an informed decision about their drug therapy." >Instead, Mr. Sasich said, the spots play up the promise of the products, >leaving consumers on their own to ferret out potential side effects or >adverse reactions. >The Washington meeting did not adequately address such issues, said >Barbara Mintzes, a post-doctoral fellow at the Center for Health Services >and Policy Research at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver. >"The question is: Who was talking?" Ms. Mintzes said. "There were a few >people presenting who were independent, but the large majority were >either people from the industry or financed by them." >Anyone was welcome to present original research at the meeting, but an >open door does nothing to ensure that all the relevent research is >included, Ms. Mintzes said. > Golodner, president at the National Consumers League, another >nonprofit advocacy group, said that the meeting generally showed that >consumers were using the information from ads as a springboard to seek >more information. 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September 29, 2003

Go ahead and empty it into a glass of whatever you'd like, straws tend to

minimize the skin irritation there might be from the enzymes coming into contact

with lips, throat, cheeks, etc. My son knows he doesn't get to eat a thing until

he drinks his enzymes. Just don't use so much liquid they take forever to drink

it. My son too takes 45 minutes to eat, and yes it's fine.