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Thanks Bev.

I am minded that way but I was unsure.

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Dear , I just looked at a few web sites re Omegasentials. I have used

flax seed oil and cottege cheese for a year and have read numerous success

stories about it so I can only say that I prefer this to Omegasentials.

Perhaps someone with knowledge about both can help you further. Blessings.

Bev.

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> Hi

>

> I am reading about Dr Budwig and came across " Omegasentials " in the

> following page:- http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer1/budwig

> htm

>

> Can anyone tell me if it is equivalent or better than FO/CC please ?

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

>

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What did you mean by bring your master certificate and auditing et - just

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My husband Dave and myself are going to Xcaret and are both Reiki Masters

ourselves?

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EJ,

Most of us have not as AIH is an autoimmune disease and many of the herbs

and vitamins actually enhance the immune system. Most of us have to take

medications to suppress it - does not sound very naturally healthy but our

diseases are not. It would take highly specialized knowledge to know what

will not adversely effect us so PLEASE BE CAREFUL! Others here can address

CFS and Fibromyalgia better than I . Good luck & stick with us there is a

lot to learn here.

Patty

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Hi everyone,

I have never been a part of a group like this before so please forgive me if

I get lost in this process and how all this works. I have been diagnosed

with AIH and CFS and Fibromyalgia so I feel like I have been really blessed

in the last year. My big question is, Is there anyone out there not doing

prescription drugs but all natural healing with vitamins herbs and

supplements etc. I am one who has made major changes in diet, habits,

environment, etc... Its working so far for me and was wondering if anyone

else out there was doing the same? OH well, I was just wondering? Best

wishes to all out there, EJ

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In a message dated 4/15/03 10:03:04 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

bmfb@... writes:

> I also got a good massage concentrated on these areas and that

> relieved the soreness totally! Now I am thinking of finding a

> professional for a massage. I wonder if lymph drainage is what I

> need. Would anybody recommend any kind of massage or have an

> hypothesis about what is going on?

No hypotheses, but I can sure tell you that good massage makes all the

difference in the world to me. Even the work my naturopath/ chiropractor does

on my back thru my clothes makes a tremendous difference. He does not cure

me, but he sure helps me maintain.

I have had one lymph drainage treatment and plan on more.

Adrienne

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>Can anyone shed any light upon this? Does this occur less if organic

>foods are choosen?

>

>TIA - Carol

I've heard cabbage has high levels of natural nitrates ... which is one

reason it ferments well. I don't know if the nitrates go away

with fermentation or not. Certainly they don't inhibit the

good bacteria. I've also heard that a high-acid stomach breaks

down the nitrates, so maybe fermented cabbage breaks them

down too.

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Not so much leg pain, the pain is the sciatic nerve, it's never stopped hurting.

I have had 2 surgeries L5-S1, first one doc removed the part of the disk hitting

the nerve, that time it was all out to the left. The second surgery, exact same

place, (no second scar a little off so that's cool, only see the one lol) disk

re-ruptured 2 weeks after first surgery, this time rupturing out the back, to

the left and a little to the right. The disk hit the nerve both times. I've had

back pain since Feb of 2000, I've had the " nerve " pain as I call it for almost

all that time also. The last MRI shows no need for surgery, nothing hitting the

sciatic nerve. Let me type a seperate post so the MRI report that I type is all

that's on it so if someone doesn't want to read it they don't have to go thru it

to see if there is a msg :)

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> Connie.Ok correct me if I am wrong..You have leg pain but they say none of

> the discs are bad??

> You had surgery before? on what?

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Not so much leg pain, the pain is the sciatic nerve, it's never stopped hurting.

I have had 2 surgeries L5-S1, first one doc removed the part of the disk hitting

the nerve, that time it was all out to the left. The second surgery, exact same

place, (no second scar a little off so that's cool, only see the one lol) disk

re-ruptured 2 weeks after first surgery, this time rupturing out the back, to

the left and a little to the right. The disk hit the nerve both times. I've had

back pain since Feb of 2000, I've had the " nerve " pain as I call it for almost

all that time also. The last MRI shows no need for surgery, nothing hitting the

sciatic nerve. Let me type a seperate post so the MRI report that I type is all

that's on it so if someone doesn't want to read it they don't have to go thru it

to see if there is a msg :)

Connie

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> Connie.Ok correct me if I am wrong..You have leg pain but they say none of

> the discs are bad??

> You had surgery before? on what?

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Dear , I just looked at a few web sites re Omegasentials. I have used

flax seed oil and cottege cheese for a year and have read numerous success

stories about it so I can only say that I prefer this to Omegasentials.

Perhaps someone with knowledge about both can help you further. Blessings.

Bev.

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> Hi

>

> I am reading about Dr Budwig and came across " Omegasentials " in the

> following page:- http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer1/budwig

> htm

>

> Can anyone tell me if it is equivalent or better than FO/CC please ?

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

>

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Dear , I just looked at a few web sites re Omegasentials. I have used

flax seed oil and cottege cheese for a year and have read numerous success

stories about it so I can only say that I prefer this to Omegasentials.

Perhaps someone with knowledge about both can help you further. Blessings.

Bev.

(unknown)

> Hi

>

> I am reading about Dr Budwig and came across " Omegasentials " in the

> following page:- http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer1/budwig

> htm

>

> Can anyone tell me if it is equivalent or better than FO/CC please ?

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

>

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You said you were reading about Budwig and you came across Omegesentials,

and to try the web site beow. I tried the web site you showed and it came up

" The requested URL was not found on this server " . Can you hive me any

further help, as I would like to see what it has to say ? Thanks.

(unknown)

>

>

> > Hi

> >

> > I am reading about Dr Budwig and came across " Omegasentials " in

the

> > following page:-

http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer1/budwig

> > htm

> >

> > Can anyone tell me if it is equivalent or better than FO/CC please ?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> >

> >

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You said you were reading about Budwig and you came across Omegesentials,

and to try the web site beow. I tried the web site you showed and it came up

" The requested URL was not found on this server " . Can you hive me any

further help, as I would like to see what it has to say ? Thanks.

(unknown)

>

>

> > Hi

> >

> > I am reading about Dr Budwig and came across " Omegasentials " in

the

> > following page:-

http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer1/budwig

> > htm

> >

> > Can anyone tell me if it is equivalent or better than FO/CC please ?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> >

> >

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In a message dated 4/21/2003 11:39:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

salo99@... writes:

> You can spend your money anyway you wish, but you'd probably benefit more

> medically from a CD that offers soothing music than most of the herbals. I

> do recommend glucosomine/chondroitin/msm combinations. The literature

> suggests that it may help some. I take that and sam-e. But really don't

> expect much from herbals.

I've been taking Evening Primerose Oil, but can't say it's really helped, but

it hasn't hurt.

Smile,

Becky

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You can spend your money anyway you wish, but you'd probably benefit more

medically from a CD that offers soothing music than most of the herbals. I do

recommend glucosomine/chondroitin/msm combinations. The literature suggests

that it may help some. I take that and sam-e. But really don't expect much from

herbals.

kellymca2001 <kellymca2001@...> wrote:Hi everyone..my name is kelly im 26

ive had psorisis since i was 7

and diagnosed with pa when i was 15,,,Ive tried every thing in the

book and nothing seems to work for me...i refuse to take methotrxate

becasue of side effects does anyone had any herbal remedies i can try.

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Me too, Becky. But I am not sure why either. Also flax oil, but that's not for

PA really. For someone who doesn't recommend herbals as treatment for p and

pa....I take a lot.

OXBastetXO@... wrote:In a message dated 4/21/2003 11:39:56 PM Eastern

Daylight Time,

salo99@... writes:

> You can spend your money anyway you wish, but you'd probably benefit more

> medically from a CD that offers soothing music than most of the herbals. I

> do recommend glucosomine/chondroitin/msm combinations. The literature

> suggests that it may help some. I take that and sam-e. But really don't

> expect much from herbals.

I've been taking Evening Primerose Oil, but can't say it's really helped, but

it hasn't hurt.

Smile,

Becky

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I used to have high hopes for herbals. Their claims are so encouraging. But

unfortunately I have gone beyond skeptical and am now a true unbeliever. I have

learned through trial and error that none of them do much of anything (except

one - more on that later). I have P and PA. Both have gotten progressively

worse over the past five years. During that time, I experienced a general down

cycle in my life that left me jobless, healthless, familyless, and worse of all

hopeless. Up until a month ago the only thing that helped my PA was Remicade,

but I hated taking that. A month ago I " woke up " . I stopped feeling sorry for

myself. I became 100% vegan. I threw away my meds. I went to a shrink and

started anti-depressant therapy. I started exercising. I started to refuse to

think bad thoughts about anyone, especially myself. Today, my face is clear for

the first time in years. I can walk painlessly up and down stairs for the first

time in years. I've lost 10 pounds, 60 to go and I know I can do it. The vegan

diet has done wonders for my constitution, if you know what I mean. I feel

great, and I know now that it is half due to attitude, the other half due to

serious major lifestyle changes. Regarding herbal remedies, the only one I have

found that does anything at all for me is EFA (essential fatty acids)

supplements - mostly fish oils of variouis kinds. Coincidentally these have

been shown to be as effective as NSAIDS for reducing inflamatory disease

activity by bonified medical researchers. Unfortunately they take about 4

months to start working, so you have to be very patient. My motto now is " if

you can't show me the results of a triple blind study then forget about getting

my money for your supplement " . Live well, eat right, exersize, think happy

thoughts. If you do, you won't need any fairy dust..... I love you all!Doug

Jens Sylvia Olesen

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mormar46 wrote: ... " We're going out to dinner tonight,

and he said breakfast in bed tomorrow. Ah, what a life. "

Oh Judi!!! Makes me wish I had a broken

leg...........................................

and your HUSBAND to go with it!!!

Do you RENT him out???

I Will pay top dollar!

~Elf

> Hi guys,

>

> It's a beautiful, sunny, Saturday here in southern Indiana. We've

> been out to a garage sale and got some bargains. I bought myself a

> pair of colorful plaid dress shorts, and Ron protested saying I

> wouldn't let HIM wear something like that! But heck, I need to do

> something to accesorize this cast since we're going to be together

> for awhile. Got some cute clothes for Becki, including a little

> winter coat with ie dogs on it.

>

> Duane's recovering from his surgery, and we " kissed and made up " last

> night. He apologized for his attitude, and we spent a nice evening

> together. We had picked TJ up at day care, and I guess daddy had

> told him that his " marble sack " would be sore after the

> doctor " fixed " it, and TJ had told his teacher that the doctor " took

> Daddy's marbles out. "

>

> The flare seems to be easing somewhat, though my ankle feels a whole

> lot more painful this morning than it has--guess it is the healing

> process going on. But Ron took my cane away and is making me use the

> crutches today and tomorrow until HE can talk to the ortho Monday. I

> figured having a walking cast meant I could actually WALK. And here

> I was trying to figure out a way to sit in the garden and weed with

> maybe a garbage bag over the cast to keep it clean. Well at least he

> is " letting " me go on line LOL. We're going out to dinner tonight,

> and he said breakfast in bed tomorrow. Ah, what a life.

>

> I wish you all a pleasant weekend and nothing but good things

> happening to all.

>

> peace and grace,

> Judi

>

>

>

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You'll want to talk to Dr. G before you add any other therapies. He's pretty

much against most for various reasons but I think the most important thing to

understand is his concern for the kids' immune systems reactiving negatively

to various supplements and meds so he wants to do things slowly and carefully

check for any negative reactions before moving on. If you add on alot of

things at this stage, you could muddy the waters.

Gaylen

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Hi,

Dr. Goldberg is adamant about not giving your child any suppliments or other

therapies not on the protocol, the reasoning being that they are not backed

up by peer-reveiwed science and can interfere or have adverse interactions with

the meds he prescribes. He also says that megadosing of suppliments are

stressful to the immune system and what we are trying to do with the

regimen is *calm* it.

You don't say how old your child is, but three months is a very, very short

time. Some children take longer to respond, especially if they are over five

years old, but even younger ones can be tricky. Sometimes it's a matter of

finding the right medications to use, and the right dosages, which is a gradual

process. Also, with some children there are no dramatic " breakthroughs " , but

steady, gradual improvement.

Donna

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Our son is on Paxil (0.25) for over a month and

antiviral/antifungals for the last 3 months. No breakthroughs yet.

We wanted to know if we can also pursue other protocols (FGF,

TTFD+glutathione+B12, amino supplementation) while following Dr G 's

protocol (antifungal,antiviral, SSRI). Since other children are

showing clinical benefits with other protocols, it is tempting not

to ignore other therapies. Any thoughts will be appreciated.

AJ

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In a message dated 4/27/03 6:27:40 PM Central Daylight Time,

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> Dr. Goldberg is adamant about not giving your child any suppliments or other

>

Just a note of clarification to those not currently seeing Dr. G or using the

protocol yet, Dr. G does allow some supplements on a case-by-case basis

depending on each individual child but it is true that he does recommend

against most of them.

Gaylen

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Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 13:07:28 -0000

Our son is on Paxil (0.25) for over a month and

antiviral/antifungals for the last 3 months. No breakthroughs yet.

We wanted to know if we can also pursue other protocols (FGF,

TTFD+glutathione+B12, amino supplementation) while following Dr G 's

protocol (antifungal,antiviral, SSRI). Since other children are

showing clinical benefits with other protocols, it is tempting not

to ignore other therapies. Any thoughts will be appreciated.

AJ

Hi AJ,

I think you've been given some pretty good reasons for not mixing

treatments. There are also some very real dangers with some of the

treatments that parents are experimenting with.

Probably the most alarming treatment is the FGF treatments that some parents

are going to Mexico for. Besides the fact that it's experimental, it's my

understanding that it comes from bovine pituitary.

Cheryl

FEBS Lett 2002 Oct 2;529(1):17-21 Related Articles, Links

Prion diseases: pathogenesis and public health concerns.

Dormont D.

CEA, Service de Neurovirologie, CRSSA, EPHE, P.O. Box 6, Fontenay-aux-Roses,

France. dominique.dormont@...

Transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE) agents or prions induce

neurodegenerative fatal diseases in humans and in some mammalian species.

Human TSEs include Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD),

Gerstmann-Straussler-Scheinker syndrome, kuru and fatal familial insomnia.

In animals, scrapie in sheep and goats, feline spongiform encephalopathy,

transmissible mink encephalopathy, chronic wasting disease in wild

ruminants, and bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), which appeared in the

UK in the mid-1980s [Wells, G.A.H. et al. (1987) Vet. Rec. 121, 419-420],

belong to the TSE group.

Prions have biological and physicochemical characteristics that differ

significantly from those of other microorganisms; for example,

***they are resistant to inactivation processes that are effective against

conventional viruses,****

including those that alter nucleic acid structure or function.

Alternatively, infectivity is highly susceptible to procedures that modify

protein conformation. Today, the exact nature of prions remains unknown even

though it is likely that they consist of protein only. At the biochemical

level, TSEs are characterised by the accumulation, within the central

nervous system of the infected individual, of an abnormal isoform of a

particular protein from the host, the prion protein [Prusiner, S.B. (1982)

Science 216, 136-144].

TSEs are transmissible among their species of origin, but they can also

cross the species barrier and induce chronic infection and/or disease in

other species.

Transmissibility has been proven in natural situations such as the outbreak

of CJD among patients treated with

*** pituitary-derived hormones*** and the appearance of BSE that affected UK

cattle in the mid-1980s.

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