Re: Psych meds and drug pushers

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In a message dated 8/18/04 9:56:15 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> It would seem another solution would be to propose a ban on GP's

> writing scripts for psychiatric drugs.

There was a time not too long ago when you could not get even so much as a

Valium unless it was prescribed by a psychiatrist. Psych meds were not in the

domain of general practice. I don't know when all that changed because from my

experience GPs know little or nothing about psych meds, they're just

listening to the pusher man.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/18/04 9:56:15 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> It would seem another solution would be to propose a ban on GP's

> writing scripts for psychiatric drugs.

There was a time not too long ago when you could not get even so much as a

Valium unless it was prescribed by a psychiatrist. Psych meds were not in the

domain of general practice. I don't know when all that changed because from my

experience GPs know little or nothing about psych meds, they're just

listening to the pusher man.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

Latest Press Release

[Guest guest]

Glitter, GP's have always been prescribing these drugs. Our family doctor

supplied my mother with librium and valium in the 60's. When that doctor

became concerned about chronic use and addiction and wanted her off the

drugs, my mother switched to another family doctor who has continued on

prescribing for her ever since, adding in SSRIs when they came on the market

in the late 80's. Valium developed a bad reputation for addiction and became

popular as a street drug. The DEA started going after doctors so GPs

covered their butts and got cautious about prescribing them before SSRIs.

But they still have always been prescribing them since they came on the

market.

What do psychs know special about anything, including any specialty of

medicine? They go through med school just as any other doctor. Then their

residency training is essentially how to apply the DSM-IV to patients as

they react to the various medications given them and they develop the " art "

of therapy. You don't have to be a medical doctor to do that - pschologists

do it, social workers do it. Read the DSM - anyone could do it. It's a joke

that doesn't even merit being called peusdo science. There is no science to

it, there is no medicine to it. It's just categorizations of various

behaviors of people all meshed and mangled around in various combinations.

I'm serious - read it.

Psychiatrists are not trained in neurology, they are not even qualified to

give physical exams. They " solve problems " by talking and are only as

effective as their victim believes them to be, the same as voodoo or

witchcraft. Psychoanalysis has been well proven to be bullshit and real

mental problems physiologically based. And I am not talking about grief

from loss, or unhappiness because of external circumstances like jerk

spouses - normal life issues.

If you have a physical medical problem, talking is not going to solve it.

If you don't have a physical medical problem, then you don't need a medical

doctor and you especially don't need a psychiatrist bilking you of your

money. If you have life issues, go to the philosophers and theologians -

their literature exploring all these issues for centuries is free in the

libraries and on line, churches are free. Find a wise old man, find a

friend with a good head on their shoulders and you'll fair better. E. O.

is one of the top living scientists in the world today

(entemologist). He had Skinner disproven before he even published. Read

his writings on sociobiology or better yet, his latest book, Consilence, to

gain understanding of your physical and spiritual place in this world. Read

a real biologist explaining normal behavior.

A family physician is much more likely to pick up on other health issues

that cause " mental " problems such as diabetes, hypothyroidism, hormonal

problems, anemia, even cancer. That is the speciality of his training.

Mental problems should in fact, be considered warning signs of underlying

problems and put in context with the total body - again what a family

physician is better trained at. I've posted this before and I'm putting the

jest of the article below-

http://www.buffalo.edu/reporter/vol34/vol34n23/articles/BellnierDiabetes.html

" That study, based on a retrospective review of medical data for 569

randomly selected patients with the two disorders [schizophrenia and

bi-polar] admitted to a state psychiatric hospital between 1940 and

1950-before antipsychotic medications were available-found that metabolic

disturbances were significantly greater in those patients than among the

general population.

According to the results, the rate of diabetes among the patients was 20.9

percent, or 10 times that reported at that time for the general population.

The incidence of hypertension was 29.1 percent, compared to 16.5 percent in

the general population, and the incidence of " overweight " was 28.2 percent

versus 21.8 percent in the general population.

Based on their findings, the UB researchers conclude that psychiatric care

should be modified to include routine screening for diabetes, hypertension

and obesity. "

Do note, diabetes, hypertension and obesity are about high carbohydrate

diets. And as Atkins explains, it is all about endocrinology 101.

Re: Psych meds and drug pushers

> In a message dated 8/18/04 9:56:15 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

>

> > It would seem another solution would be to propose a ban on GP's

> > writing scripts for psychiatric drugs.

>

> There was a time not too long ago when you could not get even so much as a

> Valium unless it was prescribed by a psychiatrist. Psych meds were not in

the

> domain of general practice. I don't know when all that changed because

from my

> experience GPs know little or nothing about psych meds, they're just

> listening to the pusher man.

>

> " Blind Reason "

> a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

> Unsafe At Any Dose

> Latest Press Release

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Glitter, GP's have always been prescribing these drugs. Our family doctor

supplied my mother with librium and valium in the 60's. When that doctor

became concerned about chronic use and addiction and wanted her off the

drugs, my mother switched to another family doctor who has continued on

prescribing for her ever since, adding in SSRIs when they came on the market

in the late 80's. Valium developed a bad reputation for addiction and became

popular as a street drug. The DEA started going after doctors so GPs

covered their butts and got cautious about prescribing them before SSRIs.

But they still have always been prescribing them since they came on the

market.

What do psychs know special about anything, including any specialty of

medicine? They go through med school just as any other doctor. Then their

residency training is essentially how to apply the DSM-IV to patients as

they react to the various medications given them and they develop the " art "

of therapy. You don't have to be a medical doctor to do that - pschologists

do it, social workers do it. Read the DSM - anyone could do it. It's a joke

that doesn't even merit being called peusdo science. There is no science to

it, there is no medicine to it. It's just categorizations of various

behaviors of people all meshed and mangled around in various combinations.

I'm serious - read it.

Psychiatrists are not trained in neurology, they are not even qualified to

give physical exams. They " solve problems " by talking and are only as

effective as their victim believes them to be, the same as voodoo or

witchcraft. Psychoanalysis has been well proven to be bullshit and real

mental problems physiologically based. And I am not talking about grief

from loss, or unhappiness because of external circumstances like jerk

spouses - normal life issues.

If you have a physical medical problem, talking is not going to solve it.

If you don't have a physical medical problem, then you don't need a medical

doctor and you especially don't need a psychiatrist bilking you of your

money. If you have life issues, go to the philosophers and theologians -

their literature exploring all these issues for centuries is free in the

libraries and on line, churches are free. Find a wise old man, find a

friend with a good head on their shoulders and you'll fair better. E. O.

is one of the top living scientists in the world today

(entemologist). He had Skinner disproven before he even published. Read

his writings on sociobiology or better yet, his latest book, Consilence, to

gain understanding of your physical and spiritual place in this world. Read

a real biologist explaining normal behavior.

A family physician is much more likely to pick up on other health issues

that cause " mental " problems such as diabetes, hypothyroidism, hormonal

problems, anemia, even cancer. That is the speciality of his training.

Mental problems should in fact, be considered warning signs of underlying

problems and put in context with the total body - again what a family

physician is better trained at. I've posted this before and I'm putting the

jest of the article below-

http://www.buffalo.edu/reporter/vol34/vol34n23/articles/BellnierDiabetes.html

" That study, based on a retrospective review of medical data for 569

randomly selected patients with the two disorders [schizophrenia and

bi-polar] admitted to a state psychiatric hospital between 1940 and

1950-before antipsychotic medications were available-found that metabolic

disturbances were significantly greater in those patients than among the

general population.

According to the results, the rate of diabetes among the patients was 20.9

percent, or 10 times that reported at that time for the general population.

The incidence of hypertension was 29.1 percent, compared to 16.5 percent in

the general population, and the incidence of " overweight " was 28.2 percent

versus 21.8 percent in the general population.

Based on their findings, the UB researchers conclude that psychiatric care

should be modified to include routine screening for diabetes, hypertension

and obesity. "

Do note, diabetes, hypertension and obesity are about high carbohydrate

diets. And as Atkins explains, it is all about endocrinology 101.

Re: Psych meds and drug pushers

> In a message dated 8/18/04 9:56:15 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

>

> > It would seem another solution would be to propose a ban on GP's

> > writing scripts for psychiatric drugs.

>

> There was a time not too long ago when you could not get even so much as a

> Valium unless it was prescribed by a psychiatrist. Psych meds were not in

the

> domain of general practice. I don't know when all that changed because

from my

> experience GPs know little or nothing about psych meds, they're just

> listening to the pusher man.

>

> " Blind Reason "

> a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

> Unsafe At Any Dose

> Latest Press Release

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>