Re: Heard from our attorney

August 2, 2005

I apologize I do not know your son's story, but just a couple of

observations from one who has spent 5 years taking on a corporation larger than

any

drug company. First if your son was under 18 when prescribed you would be

totally suing the wrong party in Wyeth. As an off label application they would

have no liability. On any account you should name both all parties who

prescribed and oversaw his care along with Wyeth. Even though the doc who

prescribed doesn't have the deep pockets, he does have the liability for knowing

all

possible side effects and monitoring for all problems. If a percentage of

liability is assigned by a jury, that doesn't mean the parties pay by that

percentage. In other words, Wyeth may have to pay even for the doc's liability,

but

the doc should be held accountable. It is not okay to just prescribe based on

what a drug rep supposedly tell him. It is his responsibility to educate

himself, or not prescribe the drug. You also have a large hurdle in that the

FDA

forced Wyeth to water down the label warnings that Wyeth wanted on the drug. So

it might be a good move to also name the FDA as a defendant. You have a very

difficult path, I'm surprised you have found lawyers to take it on a

contingency, it is no sure thing. They will certainly try to remove it to

Federal

court, and with Wyeth as a defendant will probably be successful.

August 2, 2005

The only way to beat them is to make them pay. My hopes and prays go with

you and your family.

Jim

Well, we finally have jumped through every hoop and over every hurdle that

Southeast Arkansas Behavioral Health Center could throw in front of us.

They finally released my son's records and our attorneys have finished

reviewing them. Within the next couple of days they will file the paperwork

to launch a lawsuit against Wyeth Laboratories for pushing the poison

EFFEXOR XR. I hope Wyeth loses it a**. I am fully aware that the lawyers

get most of any financial settlement and I don't care. They are welcome to

as much as they can get their grubby little hands on, as far as I'm

concerned. I just think that it is going to take mountains of lawsuits,

protests (like the one coming up in DC) and testimony (like that given

before Congress in September 2004) before the dam breaks and the flood of

horror that these drugs cause comes gushing forth and these people are

exposed for the charlatans that they are. So, here we go down this track -

kicking and screaming all they way unti!

l we are

heard and something is done. I've heard horror stories about how they come

after you and find every dark secret, and talk to everyone who knows you.

Well, bring it on. They will find scores of friends, teachers, coaches,

neighbors and former competitors of my son in track/cross country/road

racing who will tell them all about my son - the great and not-so-great -

and how we supported him in all of his athletic, school and personal

endeavors. And I'm so clean, I have never even had a parking ticket. We're

not rich by far and we're not perfect - but we're no worse than anyone else

and we will pitch a royal b**** if we've been wronged. AND WE'VE BEEN

WRONGED. OUR SON IS DEAD BECAUSE OF THEM...and I hope they go bankrupt and

then go to hell.

Terry

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August 2, 2005

Terry, you WILL prevail. My thoughts are with you. All of us are with you,

more often and with more love than you may ever realize. As any who know me

here, know I am NOT one to throw around Bible quotes, but this just popped into

my mind when I read your post, because it fits:

Blessed are those who mourn,

For they shall be comforted.

Blessed are the meek,

For they shall inherit the earth.

Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,

For they shall be filled.

Blessed are the merciful,

For they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the pure in heart,

For they shall see God.

Blessed are the peacemakers,

For they shall be called sons of God.

Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake,

For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil

against you falsely for My sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is

your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Peace,

Heard from our attorney

<tt>

Well, we finally have jumped through every hoop and over every hurdle that

Southeast Arkansas Behavioral Health Center could throw in front of us. They

finally released my son's records and our attorneys have finished reviewing

them. Within the next couple of days they will file the paperwork to launch a

lawsuit against Wyeth Laboratories for pushing the poison EFFEXOR XR. I hope

Wyeth loses it a**. I am fully aware that the lawyers get most of any financial

settlement and I don't care. They are welcome to as much as they can get their

grubby little hands on, as far as I'm concerned. I just think that it is going

to take mountains of lawsuits, protests (like the one coming up in DC) and

testimony (like that given before Congress in September 2004) before the dam

breaks and the flood of horror that these drugs cause comes gushing forth and

these people are exposed for the charlatans that they are. So, here we go down

this track - kicking and screaming all they way until we are

heard and something is done. I've heard horror stories about how they come

after you and find every dark secret, and talk to everyone who knows you. Well,

bring it on. They will find scores of friends, teachers, coaches, neighbors and

former competitors of my son in track/cross country/road racing who will tell

them all about my son - the great and not-so-great - and how we supported him in

all of his athletic, school and personal endeavors. And I'm so clean, I have

never even had a parking ticket. We're not rich by far and we're not perfect -

but we're no worse than anyone else and we will pitch a royal b**** if we've

been wronged. AND WE'VE BEEN WRONGED. OUR SON IS DEAD BECAUSE OF THEM...and I

hope they go bankrupt and then go to hell.

Terry

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August 2, 2005

I'm trying for accountability too ...............I hope too to

influence prescribing policy by a direct suit for medical mal

practice against the Doctors & Directors of our Hospital Trust Board.

> The only way to beat them is to make them pay. My hopes and prays

go with

> you and your family.

>

> Jim

>

> Well, we finally have jumped through every hoop and over every

hurdle that

> Southeast Arkansas Behavioral Health Center could throw in front

of us.

> They finally released my son's records and our attorneys have

finished

> reviewing them. Within the next couple of days they will file the

paperwork

> to launch a lawsuit against Wyeth Laboratories for pushing the

poison

> EFFEXOR XR. I hope Wyeth loses it a**. I am fully aware that the

lawyers

> get most of any financial settlement and I don't care. They are

welcome to

> as much as they can get their grubby little hands on, as far as I'm

> concerned. I just think that it is going to take mountains of

lawsuits,

> protests (like the one coming up in DC) and testimony (like that

given

> before Congress in September 2004) before the dam breaks and the

flood of

> horror that these drugs cause comes gushing forth and these people

are

> exposed for the charlatans that they are. So, here we go down

this track -

> kicking and screaming all they way unti!

> l we are

> heard and something is done. I've heard horror stories about how

they come

> after you and find every dark secret, and talk to everyone who

knows you.

> Well, bring it on. They will find scores of friends, teachers,

coaches,

> neighbors and former competitors of my son in track/cross

country/road

> racing who will tell them all about my son - the great and not-so-

great -

> and how we supported him in all of his athletic, school and

personal

> endeavors. And I'm so clean, I have never even had a parking

ticket. We're

> not rich by far and we're not perfect - but we're no worse than

anyone else

> and we will pitch a royal b**** if we've been wronged. AND WE'VE

BEEN

> WRONGED. OUR SON IS DEAD BECAUSE OF THEM...and I hope they go

bankrupt and

> then go to hell.

>

> Terry

>

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August 2, 2005

Our son was 21 years old when he began taking Effexor XR (hence the obstacles

they were able to try to throw up re: our right to sue). The psychiatrist and

the regional mental health center wher he is employed are also being listed as

co-defendants, and he died before Wyeth asked for their " warning " and the FDA

told them to water it down. Thanks for your insight and good luck in your

justice seeking mission. Stay the course.

Terry

Forvr22@... wrote:

I apologize I do not know your son's story, but just a couple of

observations from one who has spent 5 years taking on a corporation larger than

any

drug company. First if your son was under 18 when prescribed you would be

totally suing the wrong party in Wyeth. As an off label application they would

have no liability. On any account you should name both all parties who

prescribed and oversaw his care along with Wyeth. Even though the doc who

prescribed doesn't have the deep pockets, he does have the liability for knowing

all

possible side effects and monitoring for all problems. If a percentage of

liability is assigned by a jury, that doesn't mean the parties pay by that

percentage. In other words, Wyeth may have to pay even for the doc's liability,

but

the doc should be held accountable. It is not okay to just prescribe based on

what a drug rep supposedly tell him. It is his responsibility to educate

himself, or not prescribe the drug. You also have a large hurdle in that the

FDA

forced Wyeth to water down the label warnings that Wyeth wanted on the drug. So

it might be a good move to also name the FDA as a defendant. You have a very

difficult path, I'm surprised you have found lawyers to take it on a

contingency, it is no sure thing. They will certainly try to remove it to

Federal

court, and with Wyeth as a defendant will probably be successful.

August 2, 2005

Terry, This is probably the best news I've heard all year. Effexor Xr

was my poison also, so I'm really cheering for you. Hope you make

all the way.

> Well, we finally have jumped through every hoop and over every

hurdle that Southeast Arkansas Behavioral Health Center could throw

in front of us. They finally released my son's records and our

attorneys have finished reviewing them. Within the next couple of

days they will file the paperwork to launch a lawsuit against Wyeth

Laboratories for pushing the poison EFFEXOR XR. I hope Wyeth loses

it a**. I am fully aware that the lawyers get most of any financial

settlement and I don't care. They are welcome to as much as they can

get their grubby little hands on, as far as I'm concerned. I just

think that it is going to take mountains of lawsuits, protests (like

the one coming up in DC) and testimony (like that given before

Congress in September 2004) before the dam breaks and the flood of

horror that these drugs cause comes gushing forth and these people

are exposed for the charlatans that they are. So, here we go down

this track - kicking and screaming all they way until we are

> heard and something is done. I've heard horror stories about how

they come after you and find every dark secret, and talk to everyone

who knows you. Well, bring it on. They will find scores of friends,

teachers, coaches, neighbors and former competitors of my son in

track/cross country/road racing who will tell them all about my son -

the great and not-so-great - and how we supported him in all of his

athletic, school and personal endeavors. And I'm so clean, I have

never even had a parking ticket. We're not rich by far and we're not

perfect - but we're no worse than anyone else and we will pitch a

royal b**** if we've been wronged. AND WE'VE BEEN WRONGED. OUR SON

IS DEAD BECAUSE OF THEM...and I hope they go bankrupt and then go to

hell.

>

> Terry

>

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August 2, 2005