Guest guest Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Distribution: aspire 21 drugawareness 1,972 imhn 96 psychoslaves 55 SSRI Medication 402 you Mark, After 33 mins on the phone with you I learned: 1. You do not want to cooperate with Youngerman's oldest friend who recommended you in the first place. 2. When you are don't want to answer a question, you ignore it. You could so easily make two copies of 's court testimony, but you want to make things difficult for me while saying I harass you. 3. I don't think our goals are that far apart, but we will see. 4. You represented Youngerman while drawing a salary from the University of Chicago. That means someone other than you at the University must form an opinion of your performance and sign your paycheck. 5. You said there are " 10,000,000 things wrong with mental health in Illinois " , but you only work on a few of them. No comment. 6. " Sell your drug company stocks " is just one of the recommendations of psychiatric survivors, people who have made it through the system in spite of the system. I have no personal knowledge that you own any drug company stocks, but with the current effort to put some honesty in the FDA, if you have any, I would sell them. Mark Heyrman <mheyrman@...> wrote: 1) I have treated you with respect. You are constantly accusing me of being corrupt and incompetent. 2) You and I have completely different goals. You are trying to get rid of mental health services and replace them with prayer. I am not going to help you with that goal. 3) I do not represent the University of Chicago. Mark J. Heyrman Edwin F. Mandel Legal Aid Clinic 6020 South University Avenue Chicago, Illinois 60637 (773) 702-9611 Fax: (773) 702-2063 The JCAHO Accrediation of the Read Mental Health Center Mark, I am open to you helping me with getting Read re-evaluated. I suspect you have issues with my effort, but I am open to discuss it anytime. You should be defending me against what the system has done to me. I DO NOT believe you are properly representing the great name of the University of Chicago. I know you have probably perceived me as your enemy that's OK. Attorneys generally have a hard time recognizing others as equals. You have certain God given gifts as do I. I recognize yours, too bad the feeling isn't mutual. I am only guided by the two great commandments which are to Love God and Love your Neighbor. These are hard to follow and you might be reading about my efforts to get Willow Creek church to follow them. Basically you follow the medical model and I follow the Biblical model (which allows for the counseling of everyone). S. Youngerman and I are really saddened by the way his case turned out. We both honestly believe that you were the cause of its failure. We were there; that's our opinion. We all make mistakes. I hope we can put the past behind us and work toward getting him out in the NEAR future. Parts of our future plans are confidential, but when they become known you might want to offer to get together. I anticipate this by the end of next week. We can sit at a table as equals and discuss them. I am combat trained and I realize the value of the element of surprise, but I don't need the element of surprise with you. It probably doesn't pertain in legal situations anyway. I am perfectly willing to work with you and develop a plan which hopefully you may agree with. Example: You think Read is " treating " people. If I give you examples of people with untreated broken ribs, will you or your legal clinic represent them? PS On the subject of confidentiality I don't believe in it when there is a wrong to right. Read gets away with everything short of murder. It is being run by Mr. Wasmer who takes me for a Coke one minute because the place is driving him nuts and in a joking mood when I tell him he doesn't have to worry his level 5 guards with me because I am only trained in tanks, he writes it up as his reason to throw me back out of Read. It is a good thing I don't believe in mental illness as a physical disease. This email is going to approximately 500 people in at least two countries. You are free to reply to no one, just me, or all 500. Your choice. Have a nice weekend!!! Mental Health Advocate F. Prior Chicago, IL T: 773/774-6696 or 800/654-1215 F: 801/848-3451 E: jprior@... W: www.lgln.com (under construction) F. Prior Mental Health Advocate Chicago, IL 60656-1639 T: 773/774-6696 or 800/654-1215 F: 801/848-3451 E: jprior@... W: www.lgln.com (under construction) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 > Distribution: > > aspire 21 > drugawareness 1,972 > imhn 96 > > psychoslaves 55 > SSRI Medication 402 > you > > Mark, > > After 33 mins on the phone with you I learned: > > 1. You do not want to cooperate with Youngerman's oldest friend who recommended you in the first place. <big snip> Dear , Please stop posting personal correspondence of this kind. It is not professional, is discourteous to the writer and makes everyone wary of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 I am sorry that you have to be wary of me. You didn't even call on his 40th birthday. I am taking action. I'm fighting every obstacle to getting out. Heyrman, JCAHO, and the IL DHS are three problems. What can you do to help? nilesbuchanan1991 <nilesbuchanan1991@...> wrote: > Distribution: > > aspire 21 > drugawareness 1,972 > imhn 96 > > psychoslaves 55 > SSRI Medication 402 > you > > Mark, > > After 33 mins on the phone with you I learned: > > 1. You do not want to cooperate with Youngerman's oldest friend who recommended you in the first place. <big snip> Dear , Please stop posting personal correspondence of this kind. It is not professional, is discourteous to the writer and makes everyone wary of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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