Re: Single AA battery Godzilla?

October 19, 2004

This is not right.

The density is the key factor not the current used. 7.7 microamps

per sq mm was used to inactivate HIV 93% in three minutes. That is

pretty darned fast, too fast for the body.

If you put 7.7 microamps into a square inch of skin, you would get:

7.7 x 625 mm/sq inch = 4.8mA on the square inch to produce the

effect they did.

We use milder current than that, since we aren't interested in

reducing it in 3 minutes.

You can do math, so I just point out that current density, not total

current, is what you should examine as a starting point. The rest

will follow.

On typical skin using an electrode of almost any size, the max

current we find tolerable is about .2mA - .5mA. Any higher and you

run the risk of damage to skin. Some people are even more sensitive

than that.

bG

>

>> I chose 0.02 volt & 0.0001 amp for volts/amps because this was

used

> in the Einstein college study per the " files " section here. The

amps

> used was 0.0001 amps or 100 microamps and the 0.02 volts was not

> mentioned in the study. I calculated the 0.02 volts from the

equation:

>

> volt = amp x ohm

> volt = 0.0001 amp x 200 ohm resistance of wet hands

> volt = 0.02 volts

>

> Does this sound OK?

>

> Thanks for your help,

> LM.

October 20, 2004

Hi,

You mentioned that 0.2 milliamps is the max current. Well, I was

only going to use 0.0001 amps This is only 0.1 milliamps, which is

well within the maximum that you suggested.

However, this wasn't my question. My question was is the single AA

battery setup with 11,800 ohms resistance O.K.? I'm not sure if this

setup will give 0.1 milliamps at 0.02 volts.

Also, you said that 3-6 minutes is not enough time for treatment.

What is the proper time for treatment?

Also, is the placement of electrodes that I'm going to use correct?

One on the wrist and one just below the elbow on the side of the arm

in common with the wrist.

Thanks,

LM.

> >

> >> I chose 0.02 volt & 0.0001 amp for volts/amps because this was

> used

> > in the Einstein college study per the " files " section here. The

> amps

> > used was 0.0001 amps or 100 microamps and the 0.02 volts was not

> > mentioned in the study. I calculated the 0.02 volts from the

> equation:

> >

> > volt = amp x ohm

> > volt = 0.0001 amp x 200 ohm resistance of wet hands

> > volt = 0.02 volts

> >

> > Does this sound OK?

> >

> > Thanks for your help,

> > LM.

October 20, 2004

When I tried this, I found 1.5 volt battery didn't work, the current

was much too low. 2 AA's, either. you need 4-6 volts to kick it

off. It's quicker and easier to try this than to prove it on paper.

you can do the math to figure out the current for treatment based on

the square area, time and current. connect your meter and measure

it, you will see.

> > >

> > >> I chose 0.02 volt & 0.0001 amp for volts/amps because this

was

> > used

> > > in the Einstein college study per the " files " section here.

The

> > amps

> > > used was 0.0001 amps or 100 microamps and the 0.02 volts was

not

> > > mentioned in the study. I calculated the 0.02 volts from the

> > equation:

> > >

> > > volt = amp x ohm

> > > volt = 0.0001 amp x 200 ohm resistance of wet hands

> > > volt = 0.02 volts

> > >

> > > Does this sound OK?

> > >

> > > Thanks for your help,

> > > LM.

October 20, 2004

Dear latigerlilly:

The data that you found is incorrect.

Even with conductive paste and abrading the skin, it is difficult to get the

skin resistance below 10,000 ohms.

Also the skin resistance varies widely as related to stress and the activity of

the sympathetic nervous system. A deeply relaxed person such as in a meditative

state will have several meg ohms of skin resistance. Yet someone who is highly

stressed, will have cold wet hands which is mainly salt water and therefore very

conductive.

Using a high voltage and a large value current limiting resistor provides a

quasi current source that can accommodate variations in load resistance.

As a person becomes healthy, their skin resistance will increase and more

voltage will appear on the skin interface. As the voltage becomes larger than 1

or 2 volts, itching and burning will make it very uncomfortable. It may be