Re: Fw: More proof that HIV does not cause AIDS

May 21, 2004

what about all those people who have fevers and night sweats?............are they imagining that too?........they obviously have something........I'm not doubting that the abx kill people......I'm sure they do.......but these people obviously have something wrong..............Robb

Fw: More proof that HIV does not cause AIDS

MEDICAL DOCTOR PUTS HIS LIFE ON THE LINETO PROVE THE HIV VIRUS DOES NOT CAUSE AIDSThe Spotlight, September 12, 1994:

If you or someone you know has tested positive for the HIV virus, there is now good news.

The chances you will get sick or die from AIDS are no greater than if the test came out negative.

The London Times reports a major research group has recently proven the test for the HIVvirus (which is claimed to cause AIDS) is completely invalid and "riddled with false positives".

Malnutrition, multiple infections, malaria, multiple sclerosis, tuberculosis, having once had the"flu" or measles and even the body's own natural response to anal semen all result in positiveHIV/AIDS tests. {1}.

Now the truth is finally revealed. When a completely normal and healthy person tests positivefor HIV, is then put on the deadly drug AZT {2} -- they die. Death results from the destructionof the immune system caused by the deadly drug AZT and not by HIV.

I interviewed Dr. E. Willner, a medical doctor who has practiced and lectured onmedicine worldwide for over 35 years. He recently stunned Spain by innoculating himself withthe blood of Pedro Tocino, an HIV positive hemophiliac. {3}. Dr. Willner is the author of thejust published blockbuster book Deadly Deception: The Proof That Sex And HIV AbsolutelyDo Not Cause AIDS.

Caption from an accompanying photograph:

Author of Deadly Deception: The Proof That Sex And HIV Absolutely Do Not CauseAIDS, Dr. E. Willner stuns Spain by innoculating himself with the blood ofPedro Tocino, an HIV positive hemophiliac. This demonstration to prove the HIV virusdoes not cause AIDS and is in fact harmless was reported on the front page of everymajor newspaper in Spain. His appearance on Spain's most popular television showevoked a 4 to 1 response by the viewing audience in favor of his position against the"AIDS Hypothesis", yet this historic event was never mentioned in the U.S. press... Why?

Q: Dr. Willner, you say in your book AIDS is the greatest fraud in medical history. {4}. That theperpetrators of this crime are raking in billions while innocent people are being murdered withthe deadly drug AZT. Is AIDS a scam?

A: No, people are indeed dying of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome or AIDS. Thescam is that AIDS is not caused by HIV and AIDS is not transmitted sexually or by any othermeans.

The real causes of AIDS have been known for centuries and have been listed in medicaltextbooks for over 60 years. We have all been lied to and sold a bill of goods by a handful ofunscrupulous, immoral scientists that care more for money and power than they do for thetruth or human life itself.

Most of the medically supervised AIDS deaths were either caused or contributed to by thedeadly drug AZT. In many cases it was given to perfectly normal and healthy individuals whowere terrorized by fear from the AIDS media blitz [CN -- or "blitzkrieg" perhaps?] into takingthe phony HIV test. When a percentage got positive test results they were then given lethaldoses of AZT, a drug that was shelved over 20 years ago because it was found to be tootoxic to give to terminally ill cancer patients.

Q: We have been told all along that all AIDS patients had the HIV virus and that is whatcauses AIDS.

A: That is an absolute lie! The HIV/AIDS hypothesis was based on the fact that only 40%of AIDS cases were confirmed by the Centers for Disease Control to have antibodies toHIV and not the virus itself. In New York and San Francisco only 7% of AIDS victimswere HIV positive. This means that 60 to 93% of all AIDS patients that were used to createthe AIDS hypothesis were HIV negative.

The entire AIDS hypothesis is based upon a total lie. We were all lied to when we were ledto believe that 100% of AIDS victims were HIV positive.

Q: But how could this happen?

A: To answer that question we must examine just exactly who created this great lie. Itwas none other than Dr. Gallo, who was investigated and found guilty of "scientificmisconduct". The very same Dr. Gallo who just a few years prior to AIDSdiscovered what he called the HTLV virus. He claimed that HTLV caused humanleukemia but failed to gain scientific acceptance because he could not prove it.

Gallo likewise claimed that HTLV was sexually transmitted and had a latent period of 40years.

That theory was rejected and failed to gain Dr. Gallo acceptance into the NationalAcademy of Sciences. His theories on AIDS are just as fallacious and one cannot helpbut see the similarities in the scenario.

However, this time instead of trying to prove his insane theories about AIDS to his peers,without scientific proof, he by-passed them and went public.

Then, with the help of Margaret Heckler, former head of Health and Human Services,who was under great political pressure to come up with an answer to AIDS, theinfamous world press announcement of the discovery of the so-called AIDS viruscame about.

This great fraud is now responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of individualsworld-wide. It was no accident that Gallo just happened to patent the test for HIV theday after the announcement to the world was made. It likewise is no accident that Gallois now a multimillionaire because of the AIDS fraud and his fraudulent AIDS test.

Q: Are you saying that Dr. Gallo created AIDS?

A: In a manner of speaking, yes he did. By taking a number of diseases that were killinga select group of individuals and claiming that they all had one thing in common -- theinnocent retrovirus he now called HIV which he also claimed was sexually transmitted.

The truth is that these individuals were indeed dying of a variety of diseases and theyall did have one thing in common, but it had nothing to do with their sexual preferenceor with Gallo's harmless so-called "mysterious" HIV retrovirus.

They were all dying from specific causes that I go into great detail explaining in mybook. {5}. The information is completely documented and based on cold, hardscientific facts -- not on the phony unproven guesswork or the fraud-laced hypothesisthat is the very foundation of Gallo's ridiculous AIDS theory.

Q: But Dr. Gallo showed us pictures of the HIV virus attacking T- cells.

A: The photographs Gallo purported to be HIV "invading" a cell, were actually photosof phagocytosis, which is exactly the opposite (the process by which the cell engulfs thevirus). Whenever the virus is found it is never doing anything and is never harming thecell in any way.

Gallo also reported that AIDS originated in Haiti, in spite of the fact that HIVantibodies were discovered in frozen blood samples in the United States more than50 years ago. Where was the "epidemic" then?

Q: How do you answer proponents of the HIV/AIDS connection when they arguethat "everyone knows that HIV causes AIDS"?

A: Once "everyone knew" the earth was flat and the sun revolved around it. It has beenmore than 12 years since the so-called "discovery" of AIDS. Yet, there is still not onesingle reference paper that exists in the world that proves HIV causes AIDS. In otherwords, no experimental proof whatsoever has been offered to establish that this harmlessretrovirus, which cannot even be found in 50 percent of the individuals with AIDS, hasanything to do with it.

Q: Isn't is true that any disease capable of destroying the human body is always foundin vast numbers in the infected person?

A: Yes, of course. Yet, even the highly sensitive polymerase chain reaction (PCR)invented by Dr. Kary Mullis, Nobel Prize Laureate, which literally makes it impossiblefor viruses to hide, can't find Gallo's HIV virus in sufficient quantities to give someonethe flu let alone kill them.

HIV is rarely found in T-cells (1 virus per 10,000 to 1,000,000 cells) and when it isfound it is doing absolutely nothing. In cases of full blown AIDS, even in those justhours from death, the virus is extremely difficult to find; and in 50 percent of the casesit cannot be found at all. Whenever it is found, even in active cases of AIDS, HIV isinactive, not reproducing and it is certainly not killing T-cells as Gallo claims.

Q: Then what exactly is HIV?

A: HIV is simply a piece of dead tissue not unlike numerous other retroviruses thatexist in our body at any given time. It is one thousandth the size of a regular cell, isharmless and is simply incapable of doing anything that Gallo claims of it.

Retroviruses can't even reproduce themselves. They need a host cell to reproducethem. If the retrovirus kills the host cell, as Gallo claims HIV does, then the virus hasimmediately committed suicide -- any possible epidemic is over before it began.

T-lymphocytes (our white blood defensive cells) {6} reproduce 500 times fasterthan the HIV virus is supposedly reproduced. This simply means that even if theHIV/AIDS hypothesis were correct it is impossible for HIV to ever win the battle.It's like saying you are going to conquer China by giving a noncontagious flu to 3soldiers a day while their army increases by 1,500 troops daily. Retroviruses suchas HIV have been thought to cause many diseases in the past, but extensive, honestresearch has proven them basically harmless.

Q: Does Dr. Mullis share your contention about HIV and AIDS?

A: Yes he does. Dr. Mullis says: "Scientists don't believe, they have evidence...There is no such body of knowledge" (with reference to HIV as the cause of AIDS).

Dr. Duesberg, Professor of Molecular Biology, University of California,Berkeley, and member of the National Academy of Sciences, puts it even moredistinctly. He writes, "HIV does not cause AIDS... The point that everyone ismissing is that all of those original papers Gallo wrote on HIV have beenfraudulent... The HIV hypothesis was based on those papers."

Q: Are there others who also support your position?

A: Nearly 500 of the world's top scientists are now challenging Gallo's hypothesisthat HIV causes AIDS and the list is growing daily. Every statistic, every validscientific observation and even the test of time now proves Gallo wrong. It wasonly a matter of time until thinking scientists raised their heads out of the sand, sawthe truth and started questioning the lies that simply did not stand up to the scrutinyof impartial scientific reasoning and experimentation.

[CN -- The following is emphasized in the original.]

Project AIDS International [PAI] charges that "the dogmatic AIDShypothesis based on the findings of a person convicted of science fraud,is directly or indirectly responsible for the premature deaths of hundredsof thousands of people worldwide." PAI further goes on to say: "If actionis not taken immediately against those who are directly or indirectlyresponsible for these crimes against humanity through the practice of profitover life, the drug induced AIDS deaths will most certainly reachproportions unparalleled by any natural catastrophe in human history."

Q: What about Dr. Gallo's contention that HIV is a slow "mysterious" and"intelligent" virus.

A: Dr. Duesberg, renowned as one of, if not the world's foremost retrovirologist,answers that question by saying that [CN -- emphasis in original]:

"Slow" or "lente" viruses do not exist! It is another hypothetical inventiondesigned to explain what is obviously nonsense. It has no basis in fact, noprecedent in science, and is contradictory to 20 years of researchfindings.{7}. Retroviruses can only be replicated by the host cell, and aredependent on the life-cycle of that cell. Therefore, the virus must replicatewithin hours or days in order to survive. For over 20 years, an exhaustiveinvestigation of retroviruses reveals that there is no such thing as a "slow" virus.

There is nothing biochemically or genetically different about HIV that would giveit the power to act any differently than any other retrovirus. As Dr. Duesberg soaptly puts it, "There are no slow viruses, only slow virologists."

Q: Did you always know HIV was not the true cause of AIDS?

A: No. I have to admit that in the beginning I too believed Gallo's big lie. Butthe more I learned about retroviruses the more the AIDS hypothesis didn'tmake sense.

Q: But how could so many honest scientists be so easily fooled?

A: Again Dr. Duesberg answers that question best by writing: "After afrustrating 20-year long search for a human cancer virus, the club (theretrovirologists) was craving for some clinical relevance for the retrovirusand hence, happily adopted HIV -- the AIDS virus -- as the cause ofAIDS." He went on to explain the impact of the powerful promotion thatmade the AIDS hypothesis "instant national dogma". The billions of dollars infunding, the economic interests of the bio-technology and pharmaceuticalcompanies and the tremendous notoriety from the press was too much forthese retrovirologists to resist.

Q: Surely there were a few independent scientists who tried to exposethis fraud?

A: There were, and as an example of how their dissension was squelched,I'll quote Dr. ph Sonnabend, founder of the AIDS Medical Foundation.His is typical of how opposition to the AIDS hypothesis was dealt with. Dr.Sonnabend writes "...I tried to show that HTLV-1 (HIV) was not involvedin AIDS. All the journals refused to publish it."

After 21 years of intensive research, not one clinically-relevant retrovirushas ever been discovered, and by scientific standards HIV is no exception.You also have to understand that when Margaret Heckler, head of Healthand Human Services [HHS], adopted HIV as the cause of AIDS, basicallyall institutions which rely on federal government funding or grants had to goalong and cooperate or face extinction. HHS is the paymaster for all healthdepartments and agencies. This includes the National Institutes of Health.

Q: The proponents of the HIV/AIDS hypothesis, led by Dr. Gallo, dismissall opposition as not being worthy of their time to openly debate. Iunderstand from your book they even had the supreme audacity to boycotta meeting in the White House when an open discussion of the facts andopposing views were to be presented. Is this true?

A: Yes, that is how they operate. These scoundrels defend their positionby name calling and avoiding debate because they cannot support theirposition scientifically. Their followers are either ignorant of the truth or aregoing along with the lie because that's where the money is. Let me put it toyou this way. If you knew or [were] unknowingly duped into playing a partin what has turned out to be the greatest genocide since Adolph Hitler,would you find it easy to embrace the truth and openly admit it?

Q: What about Bergalis {8}, and Magic ?

A: Bergalis would still be alive today if she were not given AZT.Magic is probably as healthy today as he ever was and willcontinue to live a long and happy life so long as he does not take AZT orany other deadly drug.

Q: Why did you innoculate yourself with the blood of an HIV positivehemophiliac?

A: Because I cannot stand by and watch the profession I love bedeceitfully used to commit murder by following the Gallo HIV/AIDS'death banner. I have vowed that if it is necessary I will repeat the processof sticking myself with the blood of an HIV positive person on televisionin every city in the world until this genocide stops. I am a physician and Iwill keep the oath I took.

Q: Dr. Willner, in Deadly Deception you say AZT is one of the chiefcauses of AIDS. Can you elaborate further for our readers?

A: Yes, and again I will begin by quoting Dr. Duesberg [CN --emphasis in original]:

"AZT is a random killer of infected and non-infected cells. AZTcannot discriminate among them. It kills T- cells; B-cells; red cells, itkills all cells. AZT is a chain terminator of DNA synthesis of all cells-- no exceptions. It wipes out everything. In the long run it can onlylead to death and the cemetary. AZT is a certain killer! Who will beresponsible for the death of patients (some 200,000 now beingtreated with AZT and countless thousands who have already diedfrom it in the past decade) that results from AZT therapy --pharmacological homicide?"

The makers of AZT claim "it increases the quality of life." Yet, all oneneeds do is read the package insert that comes with AZT and you will learnthe truth: The side effects of AZT as listed on its own package inserts are:Cancer (lymphomas), Hepatitis, Dementia, Mania (madness, frenzy),Seizures (epileptic), Anxiety, Anemia, Leukopenia (standard laboratoryevidence of immune suppression), Impotence, Severe Nausea, Chest Pain,Insomnia, Ataxia (loss of balance), Depression, Muscle Atrophy (wasting),and this is only half of the death sentence list of side effects that AZT causes.Does this sound like AZT adds to the quality of life to you or does it soundlike what it really is -- AIDS!

Q: Are there other causes of AIDS?

A: Yes, there are and I explain each and every known cause of AIDS ingreat detail in my book. And, may I add, not one of them is sexuallytransmitted or HIV related.

Q: What can a person suffering from Acquired Immune Deficiency orAIDS do?

A: There are actually many things a person with AIDS can do if there isenough time and in most cases there is. The first and most important thing isto get off of any type of immune suppressive drug whether it be recreational,prescription or over the counter, immediately. Secondly, don't be connedinto taking AZT or any other last minute, last chance, miracle drug. If youare, it will most certainly prove to be your last chance at life. Thirdly, stopbelieving the lie that you are going to die. Finally, get and read a copy of mybook Deadly Deception as soon as possible. It contains the information youneed to strengthen your immune system. Follow what it tells you and youwill probably be O.K.

Notes

{1} Much of this has long since been reported by Jon Rappoport in his 1988book, AIDS Inc.. I recently took some heat, by the way, for daring to post mysynopsis of Rappoport's book. One person told me "It's o.k. to discuss politicalconspiracies. But one mustn't discuss medical conspiracies." I'll spare you the"reasoning" behind this.

{2} "...the deadly drug AZT." See, for example, Poison By Prescription: TheAZT Story by Lauritsen (New York: Asklepios, 1990). So the scam isthey tell you that you have got the dread HIV, then they poison you to deathwith AZT, then they bury you ASAP.

{3} "...[innoculated] himself with the blood of... an HIV positive hemophiliac." Dr. Duesberg, another "AIDS heretic", has also offered to innoculatehimself with HIV in order to underline his disbelief in current AIDS dogma.

{4} "...the greatest fraud in medical history." Similar to Rappoport in 1988,"Scandal of the Century".

{5} "...that I go into great detail explaining in my book." Note to persons, mostnotably canus lupus mortuus, who betray themselves by their over-eagerness tothrow mud on such "heresies" as contained in this post: How about reading Dr.Willner's book IN ITS ENTIRETY before you start taking your cheap shots?Then you can say things like "Where's the documentation?" (Duh, try looking inthe book.) and "What about such-and-such?" (Duh, try reading the book. Thisis just a condensed summation.).

This "heresy" is not going to disappear by your throwing mud at it. In addition,one must wonder at the over-eagerness of supposed "debunkers" to quicklythrow mud. If you want this "heresy" regarding HIV and AIDS to go away, youare going to have to come down from Mount Olympus and explain to us meremortals exactly why it just ain't so. Incantations, magic dust and magic bonesdo not impress me, anyway. Logic does. If you can refute what several AIDS"heretics" have been saying -- THEN DO SO AND IN PLAIN ENGLISH.If these are, in fact, "heresies", then you ought to be able to sit down andcarefully write a logical and understandable explanation as to why. The factthat, at this late date, very little in the way of a calm, careful, and reasonedrebuttal (not just pot shots taken at minor points) has been offered is, in itself,cause for alarm. If these "heresies" are easily refuted, then one must wonderwhy this hasn't been done but that, rather, cheap, bullying tactics have beenused.

{6} "T-lymphocytes (our white blood defensive cells)..." Note here, for example,how difficult terms are immediately explained. Would that some of the dogmatistsof AIDS could do likewise.

{7} "...is contradictory to 20 years of research findings." The interviewer adds,"(and I might add billions of dollars in funding)".

{8} Bergalis. As I recall, she was the woman in Florida who claimedshe had contracted AIDS via her dentist -- not through sex but through justbeing a normal dental patient.

Final note:

This book is not yet available in bookstores. Because there may be those whowant to get a hold of the book, because I cannot just tell them "Go to thelibrary" or "Order it through a local bookstore", I am providing informationon how to get the book. Note that I make no profit by doing so. If you canget this book in some other way than as follows, then fine. This information isprovided to increase knowledge, understanding, and awareness.

Deadly Deception by Dr. E. Willner By mail: $23.95 + $3.95shipping and handling ($27.90 total)

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