Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 Great idea, Bob. But what if you have hair on the top of the head? Would as high as possible on the forehead or back of neck work? I guess I could shave a spot, like monks use to do, but probably wouldn't. Or maybe the wet, cloth covered cotter pin electrodes could be used if the hair was parted and a cap was worn. I'll have to try it. Also, would you use the belly button pad on the back every other day to be sure the liver and kidneys were not missed? What would you set the meter at? Dick To reiterate: URGENT > Our studies as well as those of Beck, Rife, , and Robb , > and countless others all had some sort of limits. > > In our own case, I think it was electrodes placement for adequate > coverage in systemic infection. > > This is the last frontier. Our devices have plenty of power. They > work on local infection. A systemic infection can be viewed as an > interconnected series of local infections. > > To treat each local infection in the body with a series of little > zillers all over the place isn't practical. Besides, we don't > always know exactly where each " sub-infection " is located. > > This new electrode placement scheme rounds out three years of > research, in a killer slam dunk. It will electrify the blood, the > intestinal area, liver, kidneys, lungs, heart, head, lymph, > everything all at the same time. > > Further, the current used can be stepped higher since every one of > the small electrodes only needs to carry .2mA, to deliver 1.0mA into > the intestinal area. !! !!! !!!! > > So, skin burns at the extremities should become a thing of the > past. If necessary, increase the size of the pad over the > bellybutton to reduce any possible current irritations there. It > can be up to 5-6 " diameter and probably still work fine. I'd like > to see it kept to around 3-4 " or smaller, though to center it better. > > You have here something I think, at last, you can use on systemics > and hope to contain them adequately without going nuts chasing them > all over the place. > > The shortest distance between two electrodes is kept to around 3 > feet or even less!!! In this case, you REALLY ARE dividing the > systemic infection up into a series of smaller branches, each one of > which is highly likely to respond very quickly to your efforts. > But, and this is major, taken together, it all has a synergistic > effect, since the germ no longer has a ny refuge to get its numbers > back into the millions. It must stay very low indeed, and maybe > cannot replicate fast enough anymore for the immune system to > TOTALLY OVERTAKE IT. Hear? TOTALLY OVERTAKE WHATEVER STRAINS ARE > LEFT. > > Remember: one electrode over bellybutton (one polarity) the other > five on top of head, wrist arteries, and ankle arteries (all these > are the opposite polarity from the bellybutton electrode). Don't > wear conductive wrist straps! You need actual electrodes that fit > over the arteries and concentrate the charges in those arteries. > That way the bloodstream will get a good dose. Throw out any > type wrist straps, use non-conductive elastics covered with plastic > tape to reduce soaking. You want the charge into the arteries of the > wrists and ankles, and nowhere else. > > You enjoy, > Bob > > > > > > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla devices and other things useful in research. These are free to members. Membership is free, but you agree to be on your own, not take our freedom of speech as medical advice. We are not doctors! Repeat, we are ordinary lay people, not experts, not healthy officials, or geniuses of any kind. The information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most group members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not request medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice. The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 How about EEG wires would they work? To reiterate: URGENT> Our studies as well as those of Beck, Rife, , and Robb ,> and countless others all had some sort of limits.>> In our own case, I think it was electrodes placement for adequate> coverage in systemic infection.>> This is the last frontier. Our devices have plenty of power. They> work on local infection. A systemic infection can be viewed as an> interconnected series of local infections.>> To treat each local infection in the body with a series of little> zillers all over the place isn't practical. Besides, we don't> always know exactly where each "sub-infection" is located.>> This new electrode placement scheme rounds out three years of> research, in a killer slam dunk. It will electrify the blood, the> intestinal area, liver, kidneys, lungs, heart, head, lymph,> everything all at the same time.>> Further, the current used can be stepped higher since every one of> the small electrodes only needs to carry 2mA, to deliver 1.0mA into> the intestinal area. !! !!! !!!!>> So, skin burns at the extremities should become a thing of the> past. If necessary, increase the size of the pad over the> bellybutton to reduce any possible current irritations there. It> can be up to 5-6" diameter and probably still work fine. I'd like> to see it kept to around 3-4" or smaller, though to center it better.>> You have here something I think, at last, you can use on systemics> and hope to contain them adequately without going nuts chasing them> all over the place.>> The shortest distance between two electrodes is kept to around 3> feet or even less!!! In this case, you REALLY ARE dividing the> systemic infection up into a series of smaller branches, each one of> which is highly likely to respond very quickly to your efforts.> But, and this is major, taken together, it all has a synergistic> effect, since the germ no longer has a ny refuge to get its numbers> back into the millions. It must stay very low indeed, and maybe> cannot replicate fast enough anymore for the immune system to> TOTALLY OVERTAKE IT. Hear? TOTALLY OVERTAKE WHATEVER STRAINS ARE> LEFT.>> Remember: one electrode over bellybutton (one polarity) the other> five on top of head, wrist arteries, and ankle arteries (all these> are the opposite polarity from the bellybutton electrode). Don't> wear conductive wrist straps! You need actual electrodes that fit> over the arteries and concentrate the charges in those arteries.> That way the bloodstream will get a good dose. Throw out any > type wrist straps, use non-conductive elastics covered with plastic> tape to reduce soaking. You want the charge into the arteries of the> wrists and ankles, and nowhere else.>> You enjoy,> Bob>>>>>> The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilladevices and other things useful in research. These are free to members.Membership is free, but you agree to be on your own, not take our freedom ofspeech as medical advice. We are not doctors! Repeat, we are ordinary laypeople, not experts, not healthy officials, or geniuses of any kind. Theinformation on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most groupmembers are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not requestmedical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. Thereare huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice.The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of thegroup, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, asit seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We areinterested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, orwhether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding,good luck researching. --bG> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Hair should not matter a wetted pad will soak it through, or trim a little off the top? for once, us baldies have an advantage. You can also put a pad behind the back, to balance the current a bit in the middle. But it should be of same polarity as the one in front, and opposite the ones at extremeties. Meter settings are same as always, whatever you get it right at, and that varies amongst people so much it's impossible to list. My own take would be .5mA-1mA or even higher since the extremeties will have lower ratings with the 5 electrodes sharing the current. The meter will show 1mA, but each external electrode will have to have only .2mA to add up in the middle. I don't think you need this, Dick, unless you are systemically infected. Prostate, right? i'd think locally would be better there. bG > Great idea, Bob. > > But what if you have hair on the top of the head? Would as high as possible > on the forehead or back of neck work? > > I guess I could shave a spot, like monks use to do, but probably wouldn't. > > Or maybe the wet, cloth covered cotter pin electrodes could be used if the > hair was parted and a cap was worn. > > I'll have to try it. > > Also, would you use the belly button pad on the back every other day to be > sure the liver and kidneys were not missed? > > What would you set the meter at? > > Dick > > > To reiterate: URGENT > > > > Our studies as well as those of Beck, Rife, , and Robb , > > and countless others all had some sort of limits. > > > > In our own case, I think it was electrodes placement for adequate > > coverage in systemic infection. > > > > This is the last frontier. Our devices have plenty of power. They > > work on local infection. A systemic infection can be viewed as an > > interconnected series of local infections. > > > > To treat each local infection in the body with a series of little > > zillers all over the place isn't practical. Besides, we don't > > always know exactly where each " sub-infection " is located. > > > > This new electrode placement scheme rounds out three years of > > research, in a killer slam dunk. It will electrify the blood, the > > intestinal area, liver, kidneys, lungs, heart, head, lymph, > > everything all at the same time. > > > > Further, the current used can be stepped higher since every one of > > the small electrodes only needs to carry .2mA, to deliver 1.0mA into > > the intestinal area. !! !!! !!!! > > > > So, skin burns at the extremities should become a thing of the > > past. If necessary, increase the size of the pad over the > > bellybutton to reduce any possible current irritations there. It > > can be up to 5-6 " diameter and probably still work fine. I'd like > > to see it kept to around 3-4 " or smaller, though to center it better. > > > > You have here something I think, at last, you can use on systemics > > and hope to contain them adequately without going nuts chasing them > > all over the place. > > > > The shortest distance between two electrodes is kept to around 3 > > feet or even less!!! In this case, you REALLY ARE dividing the > > systemic infection up into a series of smaller branches, each one of > > which is highly likely to respond very quickly to your efforts. > > But, and this is major, taken together, it all has a synergistic > > effect, since the germ no longer has a ny refuge to get its numbers > > back into the millions. It must stay very low indeed, and maybe > > cannot replicate fast enough anymore for the immune system to > > TOTALLY OVERTAKE IT. Hear? TOTALLY OVERTAKE WHATEVER STRAINS ARE > > LEFT. > > > > Remember: one electrode over bellybutton (one polarity) the other > > five on top of head, wrist arteries, and ankle arteries (all these > > are the opposite polarity from the bellybutton electrode). Don't > > wear conductive wrist straps! You need actual electrodes that fit > > over the arteries and concentrate the charges in those arteries. > > That way the bloodstream will get a good dose. Throw out any > > type wrist straps, use non-conductive elastics covered with plastic > > tape to reduce soaking. You want the charge into the arteries of the > > wrists and ankles, and nowhere else. > > > > You enjoy, > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla > devices and other things useful in research. These are free to members. > Membership is free, but you agree to be on your own, not take our freedom of > speech as medical advice. We are not doctors! Repeat, we are ordinary lay > people, not experts, not healthy officials, or geniuses of any kind. The > information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most group > members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not request > medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There > are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice. > The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the > group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as > it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are > interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or > whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, > good luck researching. --bG > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 at these currents, ANY wires will work. The more flexible, the longer they will last, but any old wires will work. bG > How about EEG wires would they work? > To reiterate: URGENT > > > > Our studies as well as those of Beck, Rife, , and Robb , > > and countless others all had some sort of limits. > > > > In our own case, I think it was electrodes placement for adequate > > coverage in systemic infection. > > > > This is the last frontier. Our devices have plenty of power. They > > work on local infection. A systemic infection can be viewed as an > > interconnected series of local infections. > > > > To treat each local infection in the body with a series of little > > zillers all over the place isn't practical. Besides, we don't > > always know exactly where each " sub-infection " is located. > > > > This new electrode placement scheme rounds out three years of > > research, in a killer slam dunk. It will electrify the blood, the > > intestinal area, liver, kidneys, lungs, heart, head, lymph, > > everything all at the same time. > > > > Further, the current used can be stepped higher since every one of > > the small electrodes only needs to carry .2mA, to deliver 1.0mA into > > the intestinal area. !! !!! !!!! > > > > So, skin burns at the extremities should become a thing of the > > past. If necessary, increase the size of the pad over the > > bellybutton to reduce any possible current irritations there. It > > can be up to 5-6 " diameter and probably still work fine. I'd like > > to see it kept to around 3-4 " or smaller, though to center it better. > > > > You have here something I think, at last, you can use on systemics > > and hope to contain them adequately without going nuts chasing them > > all over the place. > > > > The shortest distance between two electrodes is kept to around 3 > > feet or even less!!! In this case, you REALLY ARE dividing the > > systemic infection up into a series of smaller branches, each one of > > which is highly likely to respond very quickly to your efforts. > > But, and this is major, taken together, it all has a synergistic > > effect, since the germ no longer has a ny refuge to get its numbers > > back into the millions. It must stay very low indeed, and maybe > > cannot replicate fast enough anymore for the immune system to > > TOTALLY OVERTAKE IT. Hear? TOTALLY OVERTAKE WHATEVER STRAINS ARE > > LEFT. > > > > Remember: one electrode over bellybutton (one polarity) the other > > five on top of head, wrist arteries, and ankle arteries (all these > > are the opposite polarity from the bellybutton electrode). Don't > > wear conductive wrist straps! You need actual electrodes that fit > > over the arteries and concentrate the charges in those arteries. > > That way the bloodstream will get a good dose. Throw out any > > type wrist straps, use non-conductive elastics covered with plastic > > tape to reduce soaking. You want the charge into the arteries of the > > wrists and ankles, and nowhere else. > > > > You enjoy, > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla > devices and other things useful in research. These are free to members. > Membership is free, but you agree to be on your own, not take our freedom of > speech as medical advice. We are not doctors! Repeat, we are ordinary lay > people, not experts, not healthy officials, or geniuses of any kind. The > information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most group > members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not request > medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There > are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice. > The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the > group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as > it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are > interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or > whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, > good luck researching. --bG > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 hmmmm....well speaker wires are fine. don't let that stop you. > Hi , > > I dont think EEG wires wolud work. If I am not mistaken they do not conduct to the skin, they are insulated and work by capacitance. you put the gell on them to for a good contact to the skin but there is an insulator in them where DC currunt does not pass, only the ac signal of the barin waves. I may be wrong but I think that is how they work. > > Take care, > V mailto:vman@e... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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