Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 My hat goes off to you. I don't know how I would have handled that teacher....it would not have been nice! I am so glad to hear that point of view. I hope that this school year is much better for Hannah and she has a better teacher. (((HUGS))) Carla - -- In , Beth Yohnk <yohnkmom@...> wrote: > > I would like to share a recent story that happened to Hannah. The last week of school Hannah's class was taking a walking field trip to a local park for a picnic and they were then going to walk to a custard place for a treat and then walk back to school. Now at the time, not only was Hannah's asthma flaring, but she was in a full leg cast. > > Her teacher sent me a note asking I wanted to do with Hannah for this field trip. I told her that I would be more than willing to rent Hannah a wheelchair for the day and she could push Hannah, find a teacher's aid to push Hannah, or that I would come along with Hannah. Well she wrote me a somewhat nasty note back stating this was not an option she would consider. Would I come along and drive Hannah to the park/custard stand/and back to school. > > The only thing she accomplished by doing this was making Hannah feel very alienated from the rest of her class. She was self- conscience about everything she was going through at the time already and believe me this did not help. Hannah wanted not to even go as she did not like this option at all!!! > > So that being said, if Hannah ever gets to the point of needing a chair to help her get around I would not hesitate! This would help feel more part of the group than having to have other special arrangements always being made for her. > > Just wanted to share Hannah's point of view. It will not matter one litlte bit how I feel about this, it will be all about Hannah and helping her have a positive attitude. > > > Beth Yohnk > Happy Thoughts..Be Well > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Beth, You could have went to the Principal. Told him or her about it. Remember this. If ANY Teacher does something you don't think is right. Talk with the Teacher if still a Problem go to the Principal. If you have a IEP or a 504 Plan. Go to the person listed as the Counselor. Every child has a RIGHT to participate in ALL activities in School. Unless the Dr puts it in writing that the child can't do it. I know the Teacher can get a helper to push your child. Actually when was in School. They had to have 2 kids push . Just in case one was absent. The kids were told to get to the top of the steps in case of a Emergency. There would be 2 Adults there to carry out of the school. Be sure if your child is using a Wheelchair or Scooter. There's a escape plan. Make sure your child also knows where to go. Robbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 I don't think a teacher can legally make that determination. Infact I would think that it would be in direct violation of the ADA, but I could be wrong. If your daughter has an IEP then maybe you can have it stated in it that this is an option. I would probably address this issue with the teacher and her direct supervisor and if that didn't work I'd take it all the way to the school board. Its hard enough for these kids with JRA to function sometimes and still try to remain " normal " and your advice for renting the wheelchair and even going on the walking field trip is a reasonable accomadation. Obviously the teacher needs some education. Good luck and I hope you dont have to deal with this in the future. Beth Yohnk <yohnkmom@...> wrote: I would like to share a recent story that happened to Hannah. The last week of school Hannah's class was taking a walking field trip to a local park for a picnic and they were then going to walk to a custard place for a treat and then walk back to school. Now at the time, not only was Hannah's asthma flaring, but she was in a full leg cast. Her teacher sent me a note asking I wanted to do with Hannah for this field trip. I told her that I would be more than willing to rent Hannah a wheelchair for the day and she could push Hannah, find a teacher's aid to push Hannah, or that I would come along with Hannah. Well she wrote me a somewhat nasty note back stating this was not an option she would consider. Would I come along and drive Hannah to the park/custard stand/and back to school. The only thing she accomplished by doing this was making Hannah feel very alienated from the rest of her class. She was self-conscience about everything she was going through at the time already and believe me this did not help. Hannah wanted not to even go as she did not like this option at all!!! So that being said, if Hannah ever gets to the point of needing a chair to help her get around I would not hesitate! This would help feel more part of the group than having to have other special arrangements always being made for her. Just wanted to share Hannah's point of view. It will not matter one litlte bit how I feel about this, it will be all about Hannah and helping her have a positive attitude. Beth Yohnk Happy Thoughts..Be Well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 How awful! We had a similar situation once when broke his ankle. The teacher asked me to accompany him on the trip as it was to a forest preserve with various activities, but rode the bus with his class. I and another mom followed in my car. I was there if he needed me, or needed to rest so the teachers would not have to worry about him, but he was allowed to do whatever the rest of the class did. It was wrong and unnecessary for the teacher to single Hannah out like that and make her feel different. Michele ( 19, spondy) ________________________________ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Beth Yohnk Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:50 PM Subject: wheel chair issue I would like to share a recent story that happened to Hannah. The last week of school Hannah's class was taking a walking field trip to a local park for a picnic and they were then going to walk to a custard place for a treat and then walk back to school. Now at the time, not only was Hannah's asthma flaring, but she was in a full leg cast. Her teacher sent me a note asking I wanted to do with Hannah for this field trip. I told her that I would be more than willing to rent Hannah a wheelchair for the day and she could push Hannah, find a teacher's aid to push Hannah, or that I would come along with Hannah. Well she wrote me a somewhat nasty note back stating this was not an option she would consider. Would I come along and drive Hannah to the park/custard stand/and back to school. The only thing she accomplished by doing this was making Hannah feel very alienated from the rest of her class. She was self-conscience about everything she was going through at the time already and believe me this did not help. Hannah wanted not to even go as she did not like this option at all!!! So that being said, if Hannah ever gets to the point of needing a chair to help her get around I would not hesitate! This would help feel more part of the group than having to have other special arrangements always being made for her. Just wanted to share Hannah's point of view. It will not matter one litlte bit how I feel about this, it will be all about Hannah and helping her have a positive attitude. Beth Yohnk Happy Thoughts..Be Well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 I could not agree more. The only reason I did not make a big deal out of it, is that it was the last week of school and Hannah asked me not to. Believe me both Mike & I wanted to read her the riot act!! She was not very supportive/sympathetic to Hannah and that really ticked me off. But again the school year was almost over and I knew this teacher was being tranferred to another school. The principal already knew she was being unkind to Hannah because I complained (very loudly) a few times:) Anyway, I'm much wiser about all of this now and will be having a meeting either before school starts or shortly thereafter. There will be not doubt this year what I expect and what treatment we will allow for Hannah. I think they also know me well enough to know what will happen if another teacher treats Hannah in that manner. Hopefully, she will get the teacher I asked for (Jay had her in 4th grade). She was very accomodating with Jay. He has hearing problems and she made sure he was always by the speaker (she uses a microphone as she is very soft spoken). She will do awesome with Hannah. " Tepper, Michele " <MTepper@...> wrote: How awful! We had a similar situation once when broke his ankle. The teacher asked me to accompany him on the trip as it was to a forest preserve with various activities, but rode the bus with his class. I and another mom followed in my car. I was there if he needed me, or needed to rest so the teachers would not have to worry about him, but he was allowed to do whatever the rest of the class did. It was wrong and unnecessary for the teacher to single Hannah out like that and make her feel different. Michele ( 19, spondy) ________________________________ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Beth Yohnk Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:50 PM Subject: wheel chair issue I would like to share a recent story that happened to Hannah. The last week of school Hannah's class was taking a walking field trip to a local park for a picnic and they were then going to walk to a custard place for a treat and then walk back to school. Now at the time, not only was Hannah's asthma flaring, but she was in a full leg cast. Her teacher sent me a note asking I wanted to do with Hannah for this field trip. I told her that I would be more than willing to rent Hannah a wheelchair for the day and she could push Hannah, find a teacher's aid to push Hannah, or that I would come along with Hannah. Well she wrote me a somewhat nasty note back stating this was not an option she would consider. Would I come along and drive Hannah to the park/custard stand/and back to school. The only thing she accomplished by doing this was making Hannah feel very alienated from the rest of her class. She was self-conscience about everything she was going through at the time already and believe me this did not help. Hannah wanted not to even go as she did not like this option at all!!! So that being said, if Hannah ever gets to the point of needing a chair to help her get around I would not hesitate! This would help feel more part of the group than having to have other special arrangements always being made for her. Just wanted to share Hannah's point of view. It will not matter one litlte bit how I feel about this, it will be all about Hannah and helping her have a positive attitude. Beth Yohnk Happy Thoughts..Be Well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 Isn't it amazing how much attitude of others makes a difference? Tha teacher obviously was caught up in her own misconceptions that brought on more problems for Hannah. I still say, it really is the social attitudes of others that help people with disabilities feel upset and doomed with disabilities. I was doing field research in a preschool last year working with 4-5 year olds. I asked the director of the program if they had children with disabilities before and how was the interaction between them, the staff and kids. I was doing research on peer acceptance or rejection in pre school children towards special needs. Anyway, she related to me a story of a girl they had with spina bifida. She was able to walk but had braces and walked with weakness however once the kids understood, they were just fine. She said, when the class had a field trip, the parents had been treated so negatively in the pass in other preschools that they called and asked if they should keep their daughter home that day instead of having her go on the trip b/c she wouldnt be able to walk that far. The preschool director told them.. No, we will help. She called several parents of the other kids to come along to help with the kids and in the process, they would carry the little girl down to the beach and during other activities when she was too tired. They treated it completely normal and acceptable. The child got to have fun with her friends and she never got 'stigmatized' for being different. Of course, she was 4 or 5 so carrying a child at that age ussualy doesnt bring about nasty stares, etc. Still, it was heart warming for me to see how others could make such a big difference for the child with special needs by being accepting and not producing obstacles that come from theeir own insecurities and prejudice. That teacher needed to be reported but just the same.. what a shame that things like this happen.... will continue to happen.... and that people who are so educated spend so much time in ignorance... I On 8/9/06, Tepper, Michele <MTepper@...> wrote: > > How awful! We had a similar situation once when broke his ankle. > The teacher asked me to accompany him on the trip as it was to a forest > preserve with various activities, but rode the bus with his class. > I and another mom followed in my car. I was there if he needed me, or > needed to rest so the teachers would not have to worry about him, but he > was allowed to do whatever the rest of the class did. It was wrong and > unnecessary for the teacher to single Hannah out like that and make her > feel different. Michele ( 19, spondy) > > ________________________________ > > From: < %40> [mailto: > < %40>] On > Behalf Of Beth Yohnk > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:50 PM > < %40> > Subject: wheel chair issue > > I would like to share a recent story that happened to Hannah. The last > week of school Hannah's class was taking a walking field trip to a local > park for a picnic and they were then going to walk to a custard place > for a treat and then walk back to school. Now at the time, not only was > Hannah's asthma flaring, but she was in a full leg cast. > > Her teacher sent me a note asking I wanted to do with Hannah for this > field trip. I told her that I would be more than willing to rent Hannah > a wheelchair for the day and she could push Hannah, find a teacher's aid > to push Hannah, or that I would come along with Hannah. Well she wrote > me a somewhat nasty note back stating this was not an option she would > consider. Would I come along and drive Hannah to the park/custard > stand/and back to school. > > The only thing she accomplished by doing this was making Hannah feel > very alienated from the rest of her class. She was self-conscience about > everything she was going through at the time already and believe me this > did not help. Hannah wanted not to even go as she did not like this > option at all!!! > > So that being said, if Hannah ever gets to the point of needing a chair > to help her get around I would not hesitate! This would help feel more > part of the group than having to have other special arrangements always > being made for her. > > Just wanted to share Hannah's point of view. It will not matter one > litlte bit how I feel about this, it will be all about Hannah and > helping her have a positive attitude. > > Beth Yohnk > Happy Thoughts..Be Well > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 What a great story!! This teacher is in for a rude awaking. As I said she has been transferred to a different elementary school. The school Hannah goes to has about 300 kids. There are a few kids at her school with mild disabilities. There was only one child, a 5th grader, who was in a scooter. The rest of the kids with disabilites do not have problems getting around. Most have some degree of autism or have severe ADD or ADHD along with behavioral issues. The school they transferred her to has close to 1000 kids. This school (because of size and number of staff) also has the more " severe " of the disabled kids, many of who use walkers, wheelchairs etc. Every one of them is in a regular classroom for part of the day. Believe me she will NEVER get away with something like that in a school of that size. Again, I did not complain about her to anyone but the principal, because Hannah asked me not to and I did not want her to have any more problems than she already was having with this teacher. Issadora <FlyfreeIzzie@...> wrote: Isn't it amazing how much attitude of others makes a difference? Tha teacher obviously was caught up in her own misconceptions that brought on more problems for Hannah. I still say, it really is the social attitudes of others that help people with disabilities feel upset and doomed with disabilities. I was doing field research in a preschool last year working with 4-5 year olds. I asked the director of the program if they had children with disabilities before and how was the interaction between them, the staff and kids. I was doing research on peer acceptance or rejection in pre school children towards special needs. Anyway, she related to me a story of a girl they had with spina bifida. She was able to walk but had braces and walked with weakness however once the kids understood, they were just fine. She said, when the class had a field trip, the parents had been treated so negatively in the pass in other preschools that they called and asked if they should keep their daughter home that day instead of having her go on the trip b/c she wouldnt be able to walk that far. The preschool director told them.. No, we will help. She called several parents of the other kids to come along to help with the kids and in the process, they would carry the little girl down to the beach and during other activities when she was too tired. They treated it completely normal and acceptable. The child got to have fun with her friends and she never got 'stigmatized' for being different. Of course, she was 4 or 5 so carrying a child at that age ussualy doesnt bring about nasty stares, etc. Still, it was heart warming for me to see how others could make such a big difference for the child with special needs by being accepting and not producing obstacles that come from theeir own insecurities and prejudice. That teacher needed to be reported but just the same.. what a shame that things like this happen.... will continue to happen.... and that people who are so educated spend so much time in ignorance... I On 8/9/06, Tepper, Michele <MTepper@...> wrote: > > How awful! We had a similar situation once when broke his ankle. > The teacher asked me to accompany him on the trip as it was to a forest > preserve with various activities, but rode the bus with his class. > I and another mom followed in my car. I was there if he needed me, or > needed to rest so the teachers would not have to worry about him, but he > was allowed to do whatever the rest of the class did. It was wrong and > unnecessary for the teacher to single Hannah out like that and make her > feel different. Michele ( 19, spondy) > > ________________________________ > > From: < %40> [mailto: > < %40>] On > Behalf Of Beth Yohnk > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:50 PM > < %40> > Subject: wheel chair issue > > I would like to share a recent story that happened to Hannah. The last > week of school Hannah's class was taking a walking field trip to a local > park for a picnic and they were then going to walk to a custard place > for a treat and then walk back to school. Now at the time, not only was > Hannah's asthma flaring, but she was in a full leg cast. > > Her teacher sent me a note asking I wanted to do with Hannah for this > field trip. I told her that I would be more than willing to rent Hannah > a wheelchair for the day and she could push Hannah, find a teacher's aid > to push Hannah, or that I would come along with Hannah. Well she wrote > me a somewhat nasty note back stating this was not an option she would > consider. Would I come along and drive Hannah to the park/custard > stand/and back to school. > > The only thing she accomplished by doing this was making Hannah feel > very alienated from the rest of her class. She was self-conscience about > everything she was going through at the time already and believe me this > did not help. Hannah wanted not to even go as she did not like this > option at all!!! > > So that being said, if Hannah ever gets to the point of needing a chair > to help her get around I would not hesitate! This would help feel more > part of the group than having to have other special arrangements always > being made for her. > > Just wanted to share Hannah's point of view. It will not matter one > litlte bit how I feel about this, it will be all about Hannah and > helping her have a positive attitude. > > Beth Yohnk > Happy Thoughts..Be Well > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2006 Report Share Posted August 10, 2006 Hi Everyone, I was one of the moms talking earlier about my ambivalence, and that of our rheumatologist, and of almost everyone else in getting a wheelchair for a child. I think what everyone on the list is saying is great. And what Donna, or someone said about joints and wheelchairs, use it or lose it, is on the mark. We want our children to use their legs, and have as much joint motion as possible. But we don¹t want them to be in pain, and we want them to enjoy life. Our kids should go to Six Flags, they should go on their class trip and enjoy it. To go and be exhausted and in pain, but it¹s ok, because they don¹t ³stand out² since they¹re not in a wheelchair doesn¹t really accomplish much. You¹re all great. (and Ezra, ten year old systemic) On 8/8/06 7:56 PM, " bunchaspunk " <bunchaspunk@...> wrote: > > > > > My hat goes off to you. I don't know how I would have handled that > teacher....it would not have been nice! I am so glad to hear that > point of view. I hope that this school year is much better for Hannah > and she has a better teacher. (((HUGS))) Carla > > - > > -- In <mailto: %40> , Beth > Yohnk <yohnkmom@...> wrote: >> > >> > I would like to share a recent story that happened to Hannah. The > last week of school Hannah's class was taking a walking field trip to > a local park for a picnic and they were then going to walk to a > custard place for a treat and then walk back to school. Now at the > time, not only was Hannah's asthma flaring, but she was in a full leg > cast. >> > >> > Her teacher sent me a note asking I wanted to do with Hannah for > this field trip. I told her that I would be more than willing to > rent Hannah a wheelchair for the day and she could push Hannah, find > a teacher's aid to push Hannah, or that I would come along with > Hannah. Well she wrote me a somewhat nasty note back stating this > was not an option she would consider. Would I come along and drive > Hannah to the park/custard stand/and back to school. >> > >> > The only thing she accomplished by doing this was making Hannah > feel very alienated from the rest of her class. She was self- > conscience about everything she was going through at the time already > and believe me this did not help. Hannah wanted not to even go as > she did not like this option at all!!! >> > >> > So that being said, if Hannah ever gets to the point of needing a > chair to help her get around I would not hesitate! This would help > feel more part of the group than having to have other special > arrangements always being made for her. >> > >> > Just wanted to share Hannah's point of view. It will not matter > one litlte bit how I feel about this, it will be all about Hannah and > helping her have a positive attitude. >> > >> > >> > Beth Yohnk >> > Happy Thoughts..Be Well >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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