Detoxification of Biotoxins in Chronic Neurotoxic Syndromes

September 16, 2002

linda i am new to this group soi have been reading all the messages

to catch up on enzymes. when i read this i coudnt beleive my eyes.

this sounds like me and other people in my family. half of it i dont

understand but the evry thing else i had! specialy the infertility

thing. i tried like crazy to get knocjed up this last time but the

doctorsaid i was alergic to my husbands sperm [can i say that] i

never had a rash or any thing.i have a probelm with fat too! do you

know how i can get the vision test that tells me my toxins? i am

going to by some enzymes for me and my autism kid. i am worried

because karen said they wont work if you have mercury. my daughter

broke a thermomter in half with her teeth when she was 2. i gave her

3 slices of wonder bread to make sure the glass was not in her mouth

cause it lokks like a sponge. someone said she has mercury to from

this. i hope the vitamins from huoston work.

nice to meet you.

nancy.

> Reprinted with permission from:

> Allergy Research Group Newsletter: Focus August 2002

>

> Detoxification of Biotoxins in Chronic Neurotoxic Syndromes

>

> Kane, Ph.D.

>

> The following is an excerpt from the work of , M.D,

> Kane, Ph.D. and Neal Speight, MD, who have

> established a medical protocol to treat chronically ill patients in

> their clinics who are suffering from hypercoagulable

> states related to neurotoxin exposure. The patient population

affected

> includes those with CFIDS, Fibromyalgia, MS,

> Cardiovascular Disease, Depression, Rheumatoid Arthritis, IBS,

> Infertility, ALS, Parkinsons, Lyme, Stroke, Toxic

> Building Syndrome, Estuary Associated Syndrome, Diabetes without

family

> Hx, Optic Neuritis, Refractory Heavy Metal

> Toxicity, Autism, Pulmonary Hemorrhage. Patients diagnosed with

these

> chronic illnesses may be potentially

> classified as 'Neurotoxic Membrane Syndrome' (NMS) with the

endothelial

> cell membrane as the target of degeneration.

> While hypercoagulation involves a myriad of proteins, it is

ultimately a

> membrane event, essentially disrupting the

> phospholipids that structure the membrane. Agglomeration (blocked

> cellular exposure to blood flow/nutrients and

> impaired cell-to-cell communication) indicates elevation of

> phospholipase A2 and the uncoupling of eicosanoids from

> the cell membrane causing inflammation.

>

> The recent pioneering work of Ritchie Shoemaker, M.D. as

communicated in

> his book Desperation Medicine and his

> peer reviewed work (Residential and recreational acquisition of

possible

> estuary associated syndrome - a new approach

> to successful diagnosis and treatment, Environmental Health

Perspectives

> 2001 Oct; 109-Suppl 5:791-6) lends strong

> support to a connection between Chronic Fatigue Syndrome,

Fibromyalgia,

> Lyme Disease, Pfiesteria infection and that

> of numerous Neurotoxic Syndromes.

>

> Neurotoxins are minute compounds between 200-1000 KD (kilodaltons)

that

> are comprised of oxygen, nitrogen and

> sulfate atoms arranged in such a way as to make the outside of the

> molecule fat loving and water hating. As such, once

> it enters the body, it tends to bind to structures that are rich in

fat

> such as most of our cells, especially the liver, kidney,

> and brain. Neurotoxins are capable of dissolving in fatty tissue and

> moving through it, crossing cell membranes, and

> transporting against a gradient, particularly with potassium,

disrupting

> the electrical balance of the cell itself.

>

> As fat soluble neurotoxins move through the cells of the body from

the

> GI tract to sinus to lung to eye to muscle, to joint

> to nerve, etc, they eventually enter the liver and the bile. Once

> neurotoxins bind with bile they have access to the liver,

> the body is poisoned over and over again as the bile is re-

circulated

> (first released into the intestine to digest fats and

> then reabsorbed).

>

> Neurotoxins cause damage by disrupting sodium and calcium channel

> receptors, attacking enzyme reactions involved

> in glucose production thereby disrupting energy metabolism in the

cell,

> manufacturing renegade fatty acids as saturated

> very long chain, odd chain and branched chain fatty acids impairing

> membrane function, stimulating enzymes (PLA2)

> which uncouple essential fatty acids from the cell membrane and

> impairing the function of the nuclear receptor PPAR

> gamma which controls transcription (the conversion of instructions

held

> in our DNA to RNA which then leads to

> translation or protein production in the cell).

>

> Once neurotoxins get into the cell they move toward the nucleus

turning

> on indirectly the production of cytokines such

> as TNF alpha,IL6, and IL-1Beta. TNF alpha will cause the garbage

cells

> in the body(macrophages) to become active.

> The white cells are also induced to gather in the area of the

cytokine

> (TNF alpha) release. TNF alpha also induces

> endothelial cell adhesion. Endothelial cells which line the blood

> vessels of the body become " sticky " in conjunction with

> the increase in white cells. Increased blood viscosity results in

> restricted blood flow in neurotoxic patients leading to

> fatigue and discomfort.

>

> Hypercoagulation is predominantly an unwanted mass of proteins

> disrupting function. When referencing the artery;

> hypercoagulation invariably involves the plasmic side of the cell

and if

> endothelial cells of the vascular system are

> targeted by a toxin (virus, neurotoxin, heavy metal, antibody, etc),

> restriction of blood flow ultimately results. If a neuron

> is targeted then signaling is disrupted. The presence of neurotoxins

> involvesPLA2, which is the " sergeant at arms "

> monitoring cell membrane health. A membrane disturbance(unwanted

> mass)would trigger the release of eicosanoids,

> which would then induce inflammation and call to attention the

clean-up

> committee, i.e. macrophages.

>

> Our approach is to first confirm that neurotoxin mediated illness

could

> in fact be a problem for the patient via the Visual

> Contrast Sensitivity test that isolates deficits in velocity of

flow in

> retinal capillaries. If the patient scores poorly on this

> test then the evaluation may include screening for cytokine

elevations

> followed by Coagulation and Red Cell lipid testing

> through BodyBio /s Hopkins.

>

> In both of our satellite clinics in PA and NC we initiate treatment

with

> changing the patients overall diet, addressing the

> outer lipid leaflet of the cell membrane through fatty acid therapy

and

> the addition of supplementation targeted towards

> dissolving fibrin, clearing the liver/biliary tree, and healing the

cell

> membrane. The patients' progress is evaluated

> through the visual contrast test and repeatlab evaluation.

>

> Additionally, binding therapy with the cholesterol lowering drug

> Cholestyramine is an option in treating some of these

> patients. This drug has a complimentary positive charge to the

> generally negative charge of the neurotoxin and as the

> neurotoxin-bile complex passes the Sphincter of Oddi where bile is

> released from the gallbladder, it binds neurotoxins

> linked to bile which can then not be reabsorbed. Prolonged use of

> Cholestyramine has proven to be disappointing in

> patient outcomes whereby the infection is of a chronic nature.

Cycling

> of Cholestyramine has been utilized (5 days on,

> 10 days off)or an early AM single dose for several months.

>

> In our clinical experience we have found that venous Phospholipid

> Exchange is one of the most efficient ways of

> clearing the liver and biliary tree which are paramount in

addressing

> neurotoxic syndromes. Oral use of phospholipids in

> a Liver Flush is also an effective intervention.

>

> Blood thinning agents such as Heparin and Warfarin increase blood

flow

> around the damaged endothelium, however,

> reconstituting membrane fluidity can directly address coagulation

in a

> natural restorative way. Vibrant healthy

> membranes will not permit agglomeration. The high POLYunsaturated

> lipids with a preponderance of

> phosphatidylcholine on the plasmic surface precludes undesirable

> clumping to occur. Treatment modalities should

> address dissolving fibrin and healing the cell membrane.

>

> Unhealthy bacteria have been known to colonize the liver and its

biliary

> system. These bacteria cansynthesize very

> long chain saturated or renegade fats that lead to liver toxicity,

> biliary congestion and impairment of prostaglandin

> synthesis. Lipids vibrate in the cell at millions oftimes/second.

The

> double bonds of the omega 6 and omega 3 lipids

> are the singing backbone of life expressed through their high energy

> level. These bonds are their vibratory song, and

> they absolutely carry a tune befitting every act and function in the

> exercise of life, providing all 70 trillion of our cells their

> flexible nature. When renegade fats are over represented in the cell

> membrane they result in off key expression, and if

> strong enough, may spell cellular death and apoptosis. Healing the

outer

> leaflet of the membrane, comprised primarily of

> phosphatidylcholine, with phospholipid therapy, is our highest

priority

> in addressing chronic illness and

> hypercoagulation.

>

> Neal Speight, M.D. is at the Center For Wellness in Charlotte, NC.

> Contact , M.D. and Kane, Ph.D.

> at the WellSpring Clinic in Wayne, PA to obtain the 'The Detoxx

Book:

> Detoxification of Biotoxins in Chronic Neurotoxic

> Syndromes' or a Visual Contrast kit at 856-825-8338.

September 16, 2002

Hi Again ,

I'm not , so hope you don't mind if I comment too.

As background information, I know very little about enzymes,

and a lot about heavy metal detoxification. Or so I think, LOL.

Everyone reading this list for long already realizes this, since

most of my posts are about mercury poisoning and/or detox.

It is very common (VERY common!) for kids with autism/aspergers/

etc/etc/etc to have toxic metals in their bodies. Many people

(including me) speculate that there is a genetic component to

metal toxicity

> linda i am new to this group soi have been reading all the messages

> to catch up on enzymes. when i read this i coudnt beleive my eyes.

> this sounds like me and other people in my family. half of it i dont

> understand but the evry thing else i had! specialy the infertility

> thing. i tried like crazy to get knocjed up this last time but the

> doctorsaid i was alergic to my husbands sperm [can i say that] i

> never had a rash or any thing.i have a probelm with fat too! do you

> know how i can get the vision test that tells me my toxins?

here is info on a good way to look for heavy metal toxicity:

/files/HOW_TO_hair_test

i am

> going to by some enzymes for me and my autism kid. i am worried

> because karen said they wont work if you have mercury.

they will still work. they may not work as well. in fact, it may

be that it is because of mercury that your kid NEEDS the enzymes.

don't worry too much about if they will work. try them and

see. be very observant. make notes. enzymes don't " work " for

everyone. and you may even have some " bad " things.... so it

is always important to PAY ATTENTION

my daughter

> broke a thermomter in half with her teeth when she was 2. i gave her

> 3 slices of wonder bread to make sure the glass was not in her mouth

> cause it lokks like a sponge. someone said she has mercury to from

> this.

this is ONE way she could get too much mercury. there are also

other ways, including:

--mercury in many vaccines (in the preservative thimerosal)

--mercury from your body (gestation or breasmilk), such as

from your dental filling, RhoGam or other shots you got

during pregnancy, dental work you got during pregnancy,

fish you ate during pregnancy

I consider the " big 2 " sources of mercury poisoning to be:

vaccines (children) and amalgam (adults). But there is lots

of crossover for both. (Adults get flu shots with mercury in

them. Children can get poisoned by mom's amalgams.)

I would suggest you might read this info on mercury and its

connection to autism:

/files/Mercury-Autism%20FAQ

I will also just mention here that a number of people who

are using enzymes for their kids/themselves are ALSO involved

with detoxing for heavy metals. This is not an " either/or "

thing where you are only allowed to do one or the other.

I think the enzymes are easier to start out on, since it is

a pill you take and you can see how it goes. For the detoxing,

most people need to read about it for a while to get the

picture. Doing a hair test (see info above) is a good place

to start. So is reading..... Feel free to ask questions.

There are a number of people on this list who are doing

mercury detox.

best wishes,

Moria

September 16, 2002

A pediatrician is likely to order a blood test in which case it would

only show recent exposure, especially for mercury. My child's blood

test showed normal mercury levels. His hair analysis showed low-

normal mercury levels BUT it had the characteristic disordered

mineral transport as well as other metals that were high.

Apparently, mercury is among the last to leave the body during

chelation and so it is common NOT to see it high on the hair analysis

at first. Are you on the board-- they have a file

there that tells how to get a hair test WITH or WITHOUT a doctor's

prescription and you can order it yourself, do it, and then ask for

help on that board. It is a good starting point.

W

> Can a childs pediatrician test for metal toxicity? Or is it better

to

> go through a company on our own?

>

> Penny

>

September 16, 2002

> Can a childs pediatrician test for metal toxicity? Or is it better to

> go through a company on our own?

>

> Penny

Hello Penny,

Would you like a short answer or the real answer?? hahahah.

the real answers always seem so long

The short answer:

Do a hair elements test through DDI. Complete details are here:

/files/HOW_TO_hair_test

It doesn't matter if you order it through DLS or if your doctor

signs. Do whatever is more convenient or expedient for you.

Longer answer:

There are a number of ways that people test for heavy metals.

Some of which are actually not helpful. This means that your

doctor MAY possibly think your kid is not metal toxic and be

incorrect about it. Testing for mercury is actually pretty

darned tricky. But even for lead (which is " easier " ) some

physicians do blood tests (which is inappropriate since it

only shows RECENT exposure). If you want to read about some

other ways to test besides the hair test, you can go here:

/files/ANDY_INDEX

and read the 3 sections on " determining toxicity " .

But a hair test is simple, not painful, and seems to work

well for people.

Having your doctor order the test for you MAY be a " better "

way, since you may want your doctor to be involved. Then again,

if your doctor is going to be not-helpful, then it may NOT

be " better " . As far as the TEST though, it doesn't matter

who orders it. It DOES matter that you get a DDI hair elements

test AND NOT SOMETHING ELSE.

best wishes,

Moria

September 16, 2002

Can a childs pediatrician test for metal toxicity? Or is it better to

go through a company on our own?

Penny

moriamerri wrote:

> Hi Again ,

>

> I'm not , so hope you don't mind if I comment too.

> As background information, I know very little about enzymes,

> and a lot about heavy metal detoxification. Or so I think, LOL.

> Everyone reading this list for long already realizes this, since

> most of my posts are about mercury poisoning and/or detox.

> It is very common (VERY common!) for kids with autism/aspergers/

> etc/etc/etc to have toxic metals in their bodies. Many people

> (including me) speculate that there is a genetic component to

> metal toxicity

> > linda i am new to this group soi have been reading all the messages

> > to catch up on enzymes. when i read this i coudnt beleive my eyes.

> > this sounds like me and other people in my family. half of it i dont

> > understand but the evry thing else i had! specialy the infertility

> > thing. i tried like crazy to get knocjed up this last time but the

> > doctorsaid i was alergic to my husbands sperm [can i say that] i

> > never had a rash or any thing.i have a probelm with fat too! do you

> > know how i can get the vision test that tells me my toxins?

>

> here is info on a good way to look for heavy metal toxicity:

> /files/HOW_TO_hair_test

>

> i am

> > going to by some enzymes for me and my autism kid. i am worried

> > because karen said they wont work if you have mercury.

>

> they will still work. they may not work as well. in fact, it may

> be that it is because of mercury that your kid NEEDS the enzymes.

> don't worry too much about if they will work. try them and

> see. be very observant. make notes. enzymes don't " work " for

> everyone. and you may even have some " bad " things.... so it

> is always important to PAY ATTENTION

>

> my daughter

> > broke a thermomter in half with her teeth when she was 2. i gave her

> > 3 slices of wonder bread to make sure the glass was not in her mouth

> > cause it lokks like a sponge. someone said she has mercury to from

> > this.

>

> this is ONE way she could get too much mercury. there are also

> other ways, including:

> --mercury in many vaccines (in the preservative thimerosal)

> --mercury from your body (gestation or breasmilk), such as

> from your dental filling, RhoGam or other shots you got

> during pregnancy, dental work you got during pregnancy,

> fish you ate during pregnancy

>

> I consider the " big 2 " sources of mercury poisoning to be:

> vaccines (children) and amalgam (adults). But there is lots

> of crossover for both. (Adults get flu shots with mercury in

> them. Children can get poisoned by mom's amalgams.)

>

> I would suggest you might read this info on mercury and its

> connection to autism:

> /files/Mercury-Autism%20FAQ

>

> I will also just mention here that a number of people who

> are using enzymes for their kids/themselves are ALSO involved

> with detoxing for heavy metals. This is not an " either/or "

> thing where you are only allowed to do one or the other.

> I think the enzymes are easier to start out on, since it is

> a pill you take and you can see how it goes. For the detoxing,

> most people need to read about it for a while to get the

> picture. Doing a hair test (see info above) is a good place

> to start. So is reading..... Feel free to ask questions.

> There are a number of people on this list who are doing

> mercury detox.

>

> best wishes,

> Moria

>

September 16, 2002

Just my .02. If you do the test on your own, you 'own' the results...does that

make sense? In other words, the dr can't keep the record and not let you have a

copy. I know that sounds odd but being in the military (or married to it), you

don't own your records, the military does. If you want to get your records and

copy them you can but it has to be done 'at your own risk' and it has to be done

periodically so you can get caught up to date...the dr keeps your record at the

end of the appt and turns them in to records and it is considered a felony or

misdemeanor if you maintain your own records. It's the most bizarre part of the

military (well, one of the most bizarre).

Anyway, if you have a situation like that, you might want to do it yourself so

you can show who you want, when you want.

Tonya Dillingham

Mothersheart1996@...

Re: Detoxification of Biotoxins in Chronic Neurotoxic

Syndromes

> Can a childs pediatrician test for metal toxicity? Or is it better to

> go through a company on our own?

>

> Penny

Hello Penny,

Would you like a short answer or the real answer?? hahahah.

the real answers always seem so long

The short answer:

Do a hair elements test through DDI. Complete details are here:

/files/HOW_TO_hair_test

It doesn't matter if you order it through DLS or if your doctor

signs. Do whatever is more convenient or expedient for you.

Longer answer:

There are a number of ways that people test for heavy metals.

Some of which are actually not helpful. This means that your

doctor MAY possibly think your kid is not metal toxic and be

incorrect about it. Testing for mercury is actually pretty

darned tricky. But even for lead (which is " easier " ) some

physicians do blood tests (which is inappropriate since it

only shows RECENT exposure). If you want to read about some

other ways to test besides the hair test, you can go here:

/files/ANDY_INDEX

and read the 3 sections on " determining toxicity " .

But a hair test is simple, not painful, and seems to work

well for people.

Having your doctor order the test for you MAY be a " better "

way, since you may want your doctor to be involved. Then again,

if your doctor is going to be not-helpful, then it may NOT

be " better " . As far as the TEST though, it doesn't matter

who orders it. It DOES matter that you get a DDI hair elements

test AND NOT SOMETHING ELSE.

best wishes,

Moria

September 16, 2002

, Sorry! As you can see I am behind in my mail! Why don't

you call them. Or e-mail them from here, I am sure they could

answer your questions. Best, (Nice to meet you too!!)

And good luck, e-mail me carltonl citadel.edu, if you have a

problem and I will ask Dr.Kane.

General inquiries should be addressed to:

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nkcellular wrote:

>

> linda i am new to this group soi have been reading all the messages

> to catch up on enzymes. when i read this i coudnt beleive my eyes.

> this sounds like me and other people in my family. half of it i dont

> understand but the evry thing else i had! specialy the infertility

> thing. i tried like crazy to get knocjed up this last time but the

> doctorsaid i was alergic to my husbands sperm [can i say that] i

> never had a rash or any thing.i have a probelm with fat too! do you

> know how i can get the vision test that tells me my toxins? i am

> going to by some enzymes for me and my autism kid. i am worried

> because karen said they wont work if you have mercury. my daughter

> broke a thermomter in half with her teeth when she was 2. i gave her

> 3 slices of wonder bread to make sure the glass was not in her mouth

> cause it lokks like a sponge. someone said she has mercury to from

> this. i hope the vitamins from huoston work.

>

> nice to meet you.

>

> nancy.

>

> > Reprinted with permission from:

> > Allergy Research Group Newsletter: Focus August 2002

> >

> > Detoxification of Biotoxins in Chronic Neurotoxic Syndromes

> >

> > Kane, Ph.D.

> >

> > The following is an excerpt from the work of , M.D,

>

> > Kane, Ph.D. and Neal Speight, MD, who have

> > established a medical protocol to treat chronically ill patients in

> > their clinics who are suffering from hypercoagulable

> > states related to neurotoxin exposure. The patient population

> affected

> > includes those with CFIDS, Fibromyalgia, MS,

> > Cardiovascular Disease, Depression, Rheumatoid Arthritis, IBS,

> > Infertility, ALS, Parkinsons, Lyme, Stroke, Toxic

> > Building Syndrome, Estuary Associated Syndrome, Diabetes without

> family

> > Hx, Optic Neuritis, Refractory Heavy Metal

> > Toxicity, Autism, Pulmonary Hemorrhage. Patients diagnosed with

> these

> > chronic illnesses may be potentially

> > classified as 'Neurotoxic Membrane Syndrome' (NMS) with the

> endothelial

> > cell membrane as the target of degeneration.

> > While hypercoagulation involves a myriad of proteins, it is

> ultimately a

> > membrane event, essentially disrupting the

> > phospholipids that structure the membrane. Agglomeration (blocked

> > cellular exposure to blood flow/nutrients and

> > impaired cell-to-cell communication) indicates elevation of

> > phospholipase A2 and the uncoupling of eicosanoids from

> > the cell membrane causing inflammation.

> >

> > The recent pioneering work of Ritchie Shoemaker, M.D. as

> communicated in

> > his book Desperation Medicine and his

> > peer reviewed work (Residential and recreational acquisition of

> possible

> > estuary associated syndrome - a new approach

> > to successful diagnosis and treatment, Environmental Health

> Perspectives

> > 2001 Oct; 109-Suppl 5:791-6) lends strong

> > support to a connection between Chronic Fatigue Syndrome,

> Fibromyalgia,

> > Lyme Disease, Pfiesteria infection and that

> > of numerous Neurotoxic Syndromes.

> >

> > Neurotoxins are minute compounds between 200-1000 KD (kilodaltons)

> that

> > are comprised of oxygen, nitrogen and

> > sulfate atoms arranged in such a way as to make the outside of the

> > molecule fat loving and water hating. As such, once

> > it enters the body, it tends to bind to structures that are rich in

> fat

> > such as most of our cells, especially the liver, kidney,

> > and brain. Neurotoxins are capable of dissolving in fatty tissue and

> > moving through it, crossing cell membranes, and

> > transporting against a gradient, particularly with potassium,

> disrupting

> > the electrical balance of the cell itself.

> >

> > As fat soluble neurotoxins move through the cells of the body from

> the

> > GI tract to sinus to lung to eye to muscle, to joint

> > to nerve, etc, they eventually enter the liver and the bile. Once

> > neurotoxins bind with bile they have access to the liver,

> > the body is poisoned over and over again as the bile is re-

> circulated

> > (first released into the intestine to digest fats and

> > then reabsorbed).

> >

> > Neurotoxins cause damage by disrupting sodium and calcium channel

> > receptors, attacking enzyme reactions involved

> > in glucose production thereby disrupting energy metabolism in the

> cell,

> > manufacturing renegade fatty acids as saturated

> > very long chain, odd chain and branched chain fatty acids impairing

> > membrane function, stimulating enzymes (PLA2)

> > which uncouple essential fatty acids from the cell membrane and

> > impairing the function of the nuclear receptor PPAR

> > gamma which controls transcription (the conversion of instructions

> held

> > in our DNA to RNA which then leads to

> > translation or protein production in the cell).

> >

> > Once neurotoxins get into the cell they move toward the nucleus

> turning

> > on indirectly the production of cytokines such

> > as TNF alpha,IL6, and IL-1Beta. TNF alpha will cause the garbage

> cells

> > in the body(macrophages) to become active.

> > The white cells are also induced to gather in the area of the

> cytokine

> > (TNF alpha) release. TNF alpha also induces

> > endothelial cell adhesion. Endothelial cells which line the blood

> > vessels of the body become " sticky " in conjunction with

> > the increase in white cells. Increased blood viscosity results in

> > restricted blood flow in neurotoxic patients leading to

> > fatigue and discomfort.

> >

> > Hypercoagulation is predominantly an unwanted mass of proteins

> > disrupting function. When referencing the artery;

> > hypercoagulation invariably involves the plasmic side of the cell

> and if

> > endothelial cells of the vascular system are

> > targeted by a toxin (virus, neurotoxin, heavy metal, antibody, etc),

> > restriction of blood flow ultimately results. If a neuron

> > is targeted then signaling is disrupted. The presence of neurotoxins

> > involvesPLA2, which is the " sergeant at arms "

> > monitoring cell membrane health. A membrane disturbance(unwanted

> > mass)would trigger the release of eicosanoids,

> > which would then induce inflammation and call to attention the

> clean-up

> > committee, i.e. macrophages.

> >

> > Our approach is to first confirm that neurotoxin mediated illness

> could

> > in fact be a problem for the patient via the Visual

> > Contrast Sensitivity test that isolates deficits in velocity of

> flow in

> > retinal capillaries. If the patient scores poorly on this

> > test then the evaluation may include screening for cytokine

> elevations

> > followed by Coagulation and Red Cell lipid testing

> > through BodyBio /s Hopkins.

> >

> > In both of our satellite clinics in PA and NC we initiate treatment

> with

> > changing the patients overall diet, addressing the

> > outer lipid leaflet of the cell membrane through fatty acid therapy

> and

> > the addition of supplementation targeted towards

> > dissolving fibrin, clearing the liver/biliary tree, and healing the

> cell

> > membrane. The patients' progress is evaluated

> > through the visual contrast test and repeatlab evaluation.

> >

> > Additionally, binding therapy with the cholesterol lowering drug

> > Cholestyramine is an option in treating some of these

> > patients. This drug has a complimentary positive charge to the

> > generally negative charge of the neurotoxin and as the

> > neurotoxin-bile complex passes the Sphincter of Oddi where bile is

> > released from the gallbladder, it binds neurotoxins

> > linked to bile which can then not be reabsorbed. Prolonged use of

> > Cholestyramine has proven to be disappointing in

> > patient outcomes whereby the infection is of a chronic nature.

> Cycling

> > of Cholestyramine has been utilized (5 days on,

> > 10 days off)or an early AM single dose for several months.

> >

> > In our clinical experience we have found that venous Phospholipid

> > Exchange is one of the most efficient ways of

> > clearing the liver and biliary tree which are paramount in

> addressing

> > neurotoxic syndromes. Oral use of phospholipids in

> > a Liver Flush is also an effective intervention.

> >

> > Blood thinning agents such as Heparin and Warfarin increase blood

> flow

> > around the damaged endothelium, however,

> > reconstituting membrane fluidity can directly address coagulation

> in a

> > natural restorative way. Vibrant healthy

> > membranes will not permit agglomeration. The high POLYunsaturated

> > lipids with a preponderance of

> > phosphatidylcholine on the plasmic surface precludes undesirable

> > clumping to occur. Treatment modalities should

> > address dissolving fibrin and healing the cell membrane.

> >

> > Unhealthy bacteria have been known to colonize the liver and its

> biliary

> > system. These bacteria cansynthesize very

> > long chain saturated or renegade fats that lead to liver toxicity,

> > biliary congestion and impairment of prostaglandin

> > synthesis. Lipids vibrate in the cell at millions oftimes/second.

> The

> > double bonds of the omega 6 and omega 3 lipids

> > are the singing backbone of life expressed through their high energy

> > level. These bonds are their vibratory song, and

> > they absolutely carry a tune befitting every act and function in the

> > exercise of life, providing all 70 trillion of our cells their

> > flexible nature. When renegade fats are over represented in the cell

> > membrane they result in off key expression, and if

> > strong enough, may spell cellular death and apoptosis. Healing the

> outer

> > leaflet of the membrane, comprised primarily of

> > phosphatidylcholine, with phospholipid therapy, is our highest

> priority

> > in addressing chronic illness and

> > hypercoagulation.

> >

> > Neal Speight, M.D. is at the Center For Wellness in Charlotte, NC.

> > Contact , M.D. and Kane, Ph.D.

> > at the WellSpring Clinic in Wayne, PA to obtain the 'The Detoxx

> Book:

> > Detoxification of Biotoxins in Chronic Neurotoxic

> > Syndromes' or a Visual Contrast kit at 856-825-8338.

>

September 17, 2002

thankyou linda. i know how it is with all the email. i cant beleive

how many i am getting now tha i joined this group. every one is nice

hear. do you think doctor kane can give help. let me tell you my

problems. i have the cronic fatique i am so tired i cant get out of

bed some time not godd with children crying all the time. the house

is in bad shape but i dont have time to care. i have a skin infecton

that looks like i got burned with gas. just my arms and stomache. i

think my eyes started goeing bad around the time i found a lttle tick

hiding under my left boob[can i say that]i know you get limes from

ticks but i never had the red cricles. do you and doctor kane help

grownups or just autism children. can you tell me what to do where do

i go? i never had toxic syndrome [dont use tampons] but id have

arhtritis in the toes and fingers and elbows and knee. i dont

drink so tha livers good. i dont eat liver thow ha ha!!!! not sure

about the other stuff in your letter. maybe the oil digetion i a

problem. some times their is oarnge drops of oil in the toilet. i eat

some oiley foods bu mostly health foods like granola for snacks and

friut rollups and no steak ever. my greta uncle had parkinsins. i

think thats about it!! i think my husband is alittle crazy but only

after playing poker. ha ha] he is a good man. i dont think my autism

daughter emma has trouble with calcium becase she drinks plenty a

milk!and saltines are her favrites.

nice to meet you to!!

nacy

> > > Reprinted with permission from:

> > > Allergy Research Group Newsletter: Focus August 2002

> > >

> > > Detoxification of Biotoxins in Chronic Neurotoxic Syndromes

> > >

> > > Kane, Ph.D.

> > >

> > > The following is an excerpt from the work of , M.D,

> >

> > > Kane, Ph.D. and Neal Speight, MD, who have

> > > established a medical protocol to treat chronically ill

patients in

> > > their clinics who are suffering from hypercoagulable

> > > states related to neurotoxin exposure. The patient population

> > affected

> > > includes those with CFIDS, Fibromyalgia, MS,

> > > Cardiovascular Disease, Depression, Rheumatoid Arthritis, IBS,

> > > Infertility, ALS, Parkinsons, Lyme, Stroke, Toxic

> > > Building Syndrome, Estuary Associated Syndrome, Diabetes

without

> > family

> > > Hx, Optic Neuritis, Refractory Heavy Metal

> > > Toxicity, Autism, Pulmonary Hemorrhage. Patients diagnosed with

> > these

> > > chronic illnesses may be potentially

> > > classified as 'Neurotoxic Membrane Syndrome' (NMS) with the

> > endothelial

> > > cell membrane as the target of degeneration.

> > > While hypercoagulation involves a myriad of proteins, it is

> > ultimately a

> > > membrane event, essentially disrupting the

> > > phospholipids that structure the membrane. Agglomeration

(blocked

> > > cellular exposure to blood flow/nutrients and

> > > impaired cell-to-cell communication) indicates elevation of

> > > phospholipase A2 and the uncoupling of eicosanoids from

> > > the cell membrane causing inflammation.

> > >

> > > The recent pioneering work of Ritchie Shoemaker, M.D. as

> > communicated in

> > > his book Desperation Medicine and his

> > > peer reviewed work (Residential and recreational acquisition of

> > possible

> > > estuary associated syndrome - a new approach

> > > to successful diagnosis and treatment, Environmental Health

> > Perspectives

> > > 2001 Oct; 109-Suppl 5:791-6) lends strong

> > > support to a connection between Chronic Fatigue Syndrome,

> > Fibromyalgia,

> > > Lyme Disease, Pfiesteria infection and that

> > > of numerous Neurotoxic Syndromes.

> > >

> > > Neurotoxins are minute compounds between 200-1000 KD

(kilodaltons)

> > that

> > > are comprised of oxygen, nitrogen and

> > > sulfate atoms arranged in such a way as to make the outside of

the

> > > molecule fat loving and water hating. As such, once

> > > it enters the body, it tends to bind to structures that are

rich in

> > fat

> > > such as most of our cells, especially the liver, kidney,

> > > and brain. Neurotoxins are capable of dissolving in fatty

tissue and

> > > moving through it, crossing cell membranes, and

> > > transporting against a gradient, particularly with potassium,

> > disrupting

> > > the electrical balance of the cell itself.

> > >

> > > As fat soluble neurotoxins move through the cells of the body

from

> > the

> > > GI tract to sinus to lung to eye to muscle, to joint

> > > to nerve, etc, they eventually enter the liver and the bile.

Once

> > > neurotoxins bind with bile they have access to the liver,

> > > the body is poisoned over and over again as the bile is re-

> > circulated

> > > (first released into the intestine to digest fats and

> > > then reabsorbed).

> > >

> > > Neurotoxins cause damage by disrupting sodium and calcium

channel

> > > receptors, attacking enzyme reactions involved

> > > in glucose production thereby disrupting energy metabolism in

the

> > cell,

> > > manufacturing renegade fatty acids as saturated

> > > very long chain, odd chain and branched chain fatty acids

impairing

> > > membrane function, stimulating enzymes (PLA2)

> > > which uncouple essential fatty acids from the cell membrane and

> > > impairing the function of the nuclear receptor PPAR

> > > gamma which controls transcription (the conversion of

instructions

> > held

> > > in our DNA to RNA which then leads to

> > > translation or protein production in the cell).

> > >

> > > Once neurotoxins get into the cell they move toward the nucleus

> > turning

> > > on indirectly the production of cytokines such

> > > as TNF alpha,IL6, and IL-1Beta. TNF alpha will cause the garbage

> > cells

> > > in the body(macrophages) to become active.

> > > The white cells are also induced to gather in the area of the

> > cytokine

> > > (TNF alpha) release. TNF alpha also induces

> > > endothelial cell adhesion. Endothelial cells which line the

blood

> > > vessels of the body become " sticky " in conjunction with

> > > the increase in white cells. Increased blood viscosity results

in

> > > restricted blood flow in neurotoxic patients leading to

> > > fatigue and discomfort.

> > >

> > > Hypercoagulation is predominantly an unwanted mass of proteins

> > > disrupting function. When referencing the artery;

> > > hypercoagulation invariably involves the plasmic side of the

cell

> > and if

> > > endothelial cells of the vascular system are

> > > targeted by a toxin (virus, neurotoxin, heavy metal, antibody,

etc),

> > > restriction of blood flow ultimately results. If a neuron

> > > is targeted then signaling is disrupted. The presence of

neurotoxins

> > > involvesPLA2, which is the " sergeant at arms "

> > > monitoring cell membrane health. A membrane disturbance

(unwanted

> > > mass)would trigger the release of eicosanoids,

> > > which would then induce inflammation and call to attention the

> > clean-up

> > > committee, i.e. macrophages.

> > >

> > > Our approach is to first confirm that neurotoxin mediated

illness

> > could

> > > in fact be a problem for the patient via the Visual

> > > Contrast Sensitivity test that isolates deficits in velocity of

> > flow in

> > > retinal capillaries. If the patient scores poorly on this

> > > test then the evaluation may include screening for cytokine

> > elevations

> > > followed by Coagulation and Red Cell lipid testing

> > > through BodyBio /s Hopkins.

> > >

> > > In both of our satellite clinics in PA and NC we initiate

treatment

> > with

> > > changing the patients overall diet, addressing the

> > > outer lipid leaflet of the cell membrane through fatty acid

therapy

> > and

> > > the addition of supplementation targeted towards

> > > dissolving fibrin, clearing the liver/biliary tree, and healing

the

> > cell

> > > membrane. The patients' progress is evaluated

> > > through the visual contrast test and repeatlab evaluation.

> > >

> > > Additionally, binding therapy with the cholesterol lowering drug

> > > Cholestyramine is an option in treating some of these

> > > patients. This drug has a complimentary positive charge to the

> > > generally negative charge of the neurotoxin and as the

> > > neurotoxin-bile complex passes the Sphincter of Oddi where bile

is

> > > released from the gallbladder, it binds neurotoxins

> > > linked to bile which can then not be reabsorbed. Prolonged use

of

> > > Cholestyramine has proven to be disappointing in

> > > patient outcomes whereby the infection is of a chronic nature.

> > Cycling

> > > of Cholestyramine has been utilized (5 days on,

> > > 10 days off)or an early AM single dose for several months.

> > >

> > > In our clinical experience we have found that venous

Phospholipid

> > > Exchange is one of the most efficient ways of

> > > clearing the liver and biliary tree which are paramount in

> > addressing

> > > neurotoxic syndromes. Oral use of phospholipids in

> > > a Liver Flush is also an effective intervention.

> > >

> > > Blood thinning agents such as Heparin and Warfarin increase

blood

> > flow

> > > around the damaged endothelium, however,

> > > reconstituting membrane fluidity can directly address

coagulation

> > in a

> > > natural restorative way. Vibrant healthy

> > > membranes will not permit agglomeration. The high

POLYunsaturated

> > > lipids with a preponderance of

> > > phosphatidylcholine on the plasmic surface precludes undesirable

> > > clumping to occur. Treatment modalities should

> > > address dissolving fibrin and healing the cell membrane.

> > >

> > > Unhealthy bacteria have been known to colonize the liver and its

> > biliary

> > > system. These bacteria cansynthesize very

> > > long chain saturated or renegade fats that lead to liver

toxicity,

> > > biliary congestion and impairment of prostaglandin

> > > synthesis. Lipids vibrate in the cell at millions

oftimes/second.

> > The

> > > double bonds of the omega 6 and omega 3 lipids

> > > are the singing backbone of life expressed through their high

energy

> > > level. These bonds are their vibratory song, and

> > > they absolutely carry a tune befitting every act and function

in the

> > > exercise of life, providing all 70 trillion of our cells their

> > > flexible nature. When renegade fats are over represented in the

cell

> > > membrane they result in off key expression, and if

> > > strong enough, may spell cellular death and apoptosis. Healing

the

> > outer

> > > leaflet of the membrane, comprised primarily of

> > > phosphatidylcholine, with phospholipid therapy, is our highest

> > priority

> > > in addressing chronic illness and

> > > hypercoagulation.

> > >

> > > Neal Speight, M.D. is at the Center For Wellness in Charlotte,

NC.

> > > Contact , M.D. and Kane, Ph.D.

> > > at the WellSpring Clinic in Wayne, PA to obtain the 'The Detoxx

> > Book:

> > > Detoxification of Biotoxins in Chronic Neurotoxic

> > > Syndromes' or a Visual Contrast kit at 856-825-8338.

> >

September 17, 2002

, I think very highly of Dr.Kane, that is because she helped

my child so much, and we still, our whole family try to stick

to the diet that she gave my son. She is a nutritionist, and

I believe that is she is the best that there is! Just go

to www.bodybio.com, and get familiar with her successes.

Best,

nkcellular wrote:

>

> thankyou linda. i know how it is with all the email. i cant beleive

> how many i am getting now tha i joined this group. every one is nice

> hear. do you think doctor kane can give help. let me tell you my

> problems. i have the cronic fatique i am so tired i cant get out of

> bed some time not godd with children crying all the time. the house

> is in bad shape but i dont have time to care. i have a skin infecton

> that looks like i got burned with gas. just my arms and stomache. i

> think my eyes started goeing bad around the time i found a lttle tick

> hiding under my left boob[can i say that]i know you get limes from

> ticks but i never had the red cricles. do you and doctor kane help

> grownups or just autism children. can you tell me what to do where do

> i go? i never had toxic syndrome [dont use tampons] but id have

> arhtritis in the toes and fingers and elbows and knee. i dont

> drink so tha livers good. i dont eat liver thow ha ha!!!! not sure

> about the other stuff in your letter. maybe the oil digetion i a

> problem. some times their is oarnge drops of oil in the toilet. i eat

> some oiley foods bu mostly health foods like granola for snacks and

> friut rollups and no steak ever. my greta uncle had parkinsins. i

> think thats about it!! i think my husband is alittle crazy but only

> after playing poker. ha ha] he is a good man. i dont think my autism

> daughter emma has trouble with calcium becase she drinks plenty a

> milk!and saltines are her favrites.

> nice to meet you to!!

>

> nacy

>

> > > > Reprinted with permission from:

> > > > Allergy Research Group Newsletter: Focus August 2002

> > > >

> > > > Detoxification of Biotoxins in Chronic Neurotoxic Syndromes

> > > >

> > > > Kane, Ph.D.

> > > >

> > > > The following is an excerpt from the work of , M.D,

> > >

> > > > Kane, Ph.D. and Neal Speight, MD, who have

> > > > established a medical protocol to treat chronically ill

> patients in

> > > > their clinics who are suffering from hypercoagulable

> > > > states related to neurotoxin exposure. The patient population

> > > affected

> > > > includes those with CFIDS, Fibromyalgia, MS,

> > > > Cardiovascular Disease, Depression, Rheumatoid Arthritis, IBS,

> > > > Infertility, ALS, Parkinsons, Lyme, Stroke, Toxic

> > > > Building Syndrome, Estuary Associated Syndrome, Diabetes

> without

> > > family

> > > > Hx, Optic Neuritis, Refractory Heavy Metal

> > > > Toxicity, Autism, Pulmonary Hemorrhage. Patients diagnosed with

> > > these

> > > > chronic illnesses may be potentially

> > > > classified as 'Neurotoxic Membrane Syndrome' (NMS) with the

> > > endothelial

> > > > cell membrane as the target of degeneration.

> > > > While hypercoagulation involves a myriad of proteins, it is

> > > ultimately a

> > > > membrane event, essentially disrupting the

> > > > phospholipids that structure the membrane. Agglomeration

> (blocked

> > > > cellular exposure to blood flow/nutrients and

> > > > impaired cell-to-cell communication) indicates elevation of

> > > > phospholipase A2 and the uncoupling of eicosanoids from

> > > > the cell membrane causing inflammation.

> > > >

> > > > The recent pioneering work of Ritchie Shoemaker, M.D. as

> > > communicated in

> > > > his book Desperation Medicine and his

> > > > peer reviewed work (Residential and recreational acquisition of

> > > possible

> > > > estuary associated syndrome - a new approach

> > > > to successful diagnosis and treatment, Environmental Health

> > > Perspectives

> > > > 2001 Oct; 109-Suppl 5:791-6) lends strong

> > > > support to a connection between Chronic Fatigue Syndrome,

> > > Fibromyalgia,

> > > > Lyme Disease, Pfiesteria infection and that

> > > > of numerous Neurotoxic Syndromes.

> > > >

> > > > Neurotoxins are minute compounds between 200-1000 KD

> (kilodaltons)

> > > that

> > > > are comprised of oxygen, nitrogen and

> > > > sulfate atoms arranged in such a way as to make the outside of

> the

> > > > molecule fat loving and water hating. As such, once

> > > > it enters the body, it tends to bind to structures that are

> rich in

> > > fat

> > > > such as most of our cells, especially the liver, kidney,

> > > > and brain. Neurotoxins are capable of dissolving in fatty

> tissue and

> > > > moving through it, crossing cell membranes, and

> > > > transporting against a gradient, particularly with potassium,

> > > disrupting

> > > > the electrical balance of the cell itself.

> > > >

> > > > As fat soluble neurotoxins move through the cells of the body

> from

> > > the

> > > > GI tract to sinus to lung to eye to muscle, to joint

> > > > to nerve, etc, they eventually enter the liver and the bile.

> Once

> > > > neurotoxins bind with bile they have access to the liver,

> > > > the body is poisoned over and over again as the bile is re-

> > > circulated

> > > > (first released into the intestine to digest fats and

> > > > then reabsorbed).

> > > >

> > > > Neurotoxins cause damage by disrupting sodium and calcium

> channel

> > > > receptors, attacking enzyme reactions involved

> > > > in glucose production thereby disrupting energy metabolism in

> the

> > > cell,

> > > > manufacturing renegade fatty acids as saturated

> > > > very long chain, odd chain and branched chain fatty acids

> impairing

> > > > membrane function, stimulating enzymes (PLA2)

> > > > which uncouple essential fatty acids from the cell membrane and

> > > > impairing the function of the nuclear receptor PPAR

> > > > gamma which controls transcription (the conversion of

> instructions

> > > held

> > > > in our DNA to RNA which then leads to

> > > > translation or protein production in the cell).

> > > >

> > > > Once neurotoxins get into the cell they move toward the nucleus

> > > turning

> > > > on indirectly the production of cytokines such

> > > > as TNF alpha,IL6, and IL-1Beta. TNF alpha will cause the garbage

> > > cells

> > > > in the body(macrophages) to become active.

> > > > The white cells are also induced to gather in the area of the

> > > cytokine

> > > > (TNF alpha) release. TNF alpha also induces

> > > > endothelial cell adhesion. Endothelial cells which line the

> blood

> > > > vessels of the body become " sticky " in conjunction with

> > > > the increase in white cells. Increased blood viscosity results

> in

> > > > restricted blood flow in neurotoxic patients leading to

> > > > fatigue and discomfort.

> > > >

> > > > Hypercoagulation is predominantly an unwanted mass of proteins

> > > > disrupting function. When referencing the artery;

> > > > hypercoagulation invariably involves the plasmic side of the

> cell

> > > and if

> > > > endothelial cells of the vascular system are

> > > > targeted by a toxin (virus, neurotoxin, heavy metal, antibody,

> etc),

> > > > restriction of blood flow ultimately results. If a neuron

> > > > is targeted then signaling is disrupted. The presence of

> neurotoxins

> > > > involvesPLA2, which is the " sergeant at arms "

> > > > monitoring cell membrane health. A membrane disturbance

> (unwanted

> > > > mass)would trigger the release of eicosanoids,

> > > > which would then induce inflammation and call to attention the

> > > clean-up

> > > > committee, i.e. macrophages.

> > > >

> > > > Our approach is to first confirm that neurotoxin mediated

> illness

> > > could

> > > > in fact be a problem for the patient via the Visual

> > > > Contrast Sensitivity test that isolates deficits in velocity of

> > > flow in

> > > > retinal capillaries. If the patient scores poorly on this

> > > > test then the evaluation may include screening for cytokine

> > > elevations

> > > > followed by Coagulation and Red Cell lipid testing

> > > > through BodyBio /s Hopkins.

> > > >

> > > > In both of our satellite clinics in PA and NC we initiate

> treatment

> > > with

> > > > changing the patients overall diet, addressing the

> > > > outer lipid leaflet of the cell membrane through fatty acid

> therapy

> > > and

> > > > the addition of supplementation targeted towards

> > > > dissolving fibrin, clearing the liver/biliary tree, and healing

> the

> > > cell

> > > > membrane. The patients' progress is evaluated

> > > > through the visual contrast test and repeatlab evaluation.

> > > >

> > > > Additionally, binding therapy with the cholesterol lowering drug

> > > > Cholestyramine is an option in treating some of these

> > > > patients. This drug has a complimentary positive charge to the

> > > > generally negative charge of the neurotoxin and as the

> > > > neurotoxin-bile complex passes the Sphincter of Oddi where bile

> is

> > > > released from the gallbladder, it binds neurotoxins

> > > > linked to bile which can then not be reabsorbed. Prolonged use

> of

> > > > Cholestyramine has proven to be disappointing in

> > > > patient outcomes whereby the infection is of a chronic nature.

> > > Cycling

> > > > of Cholestyramine has been utilized (5 days on,

> > > > 10 days off)or an early AM single dose for several months.

> > > >

> > > > In our clinical experience we have found that venous

> Phospholipid

> > > > Exchange is one of the most efficient ways of

> > > > clearing the liver and biliary tree which are paramount in

> > > addressing

> > > > neurotoxic syndromes. Oral use of phospholipids in

> > > > a Liver Flush is also an effective intervention.

> > > >

> > > > Blood thinning agents such as Heparin and Warfarin increase

> blood

> > > flow

> > > > around the damaged endothelium, however,

> > > > reconstituting membrane fluidity can directly address

> coagulation

> > > in a

> > > > natural restorative way. Vibrant healthy

> > > > membranes will not permit agglomeration. The high

> POLYunsaturated

> > > > lipids with a preponderance of

> > > > phosphatidylcholine on the plasmic surface precludes undesirable

> > > > clumping to occur. Treatment modalities should

> > > > address dissolving fibrin and healing the cell membrane.

> > > >

> > > > Unhealthy bacteria have been known to colonize the liver and its

> > > biliary

> > > > system. These bacteria cansynthesize very

> > > > long chain saturated or renegade fats that lead to liver

> toxicity,

> > > > biliary congestion and impairment of prostaglandin

> > > > synthesis. Lipids vibrate in the cell at millions

> oftimes/second.

> > > The

> > > > double bonds of the omega 6 and omega 3 lipids

> > > > are the singing backbone of life expressed through their high

> energy

> > > > level. These bonds are their vibratory song, and

> > > > they absolutely carry a tune befitting every act and function

> in the

> > > > exercise of life, providing all 70 trillion of our cells their

> > > > flexible nature. When renegade fats are over represented in the

> cell

> > > > membrane they result in off key expression, and if

> > > > strong enough, may spell cellular death and apoptosis. Healing

> the

> > > outer

> > > > leaflet of the membrane, comprised primarily of

> > > > phosphatidylcholine, with phospholipid therapy, is our highest

> > > priority

> > > > in addressing chronic illness and

> > > > hypercoagulation.

> > > >

> > > > Neal Speight, M.D. is at the Center For Wellness in Charlotte,

> NC.

> > > > Contact , M.D. and Kane, Ph.D.

> > > > at the WellSpring Clinic in Wayne, PA to obtain the 'The Detoxx

> > > Book:

> > > > Detoxification of Biotoxins in Chronic Neurotoxic

> > > > Syndromes' or a Visual Contrast kit at 856-825-8338.

> > >

September 18, 2002

,

What kind of diet is your son on?

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