Re: Valium - Any herbal alternatives?

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,

Kava Kava has been found to be a pro-convulsant in some studies, Also, it

may cause liver damage. So it is best to avoid it.

The literature on Valerian suggests that it may be effective as a mild

anti-anxiety agent, and that it may also act as an anti-convulsant. See

link below and the attached article.

http://botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/v/valeri01.html

However, check to see if there are any possible interactions with the AED

you are taking. Herbs are drugs, and can interact with AEDs. It's best to

consult with your neurologist to see if he/she has any objections, or at

least search the Internet for anything suggesting an interaction.

Mike

(See attached file: Valerian review.pdf)

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Hi there

I'm wondering if anyone has an ideas for a fast acting natural

alternative to valium? I don't take medication but occasionally take

valium if I think I may be at risk of having a seizure, its the only

thing that relaxes the muscle tension and twitching I get that

sometimes preceeds a seizure and levels me out again and works

instantly every time.

I've been reading about L-theanine and Kava kava has anyone tried these

as valium alternatives?

Many thanks,

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> Thema: [ ] Valium - Any herbal alternatives?

> Datum: 09.12.06 01:51:03 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit

> Von: ph_ipsy@...

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>

> Hi there

>

> I'm wondering if anyone has an ideas for a fast acting natural

> alternative to valium? I don't take medication but occasionally take

> valium if I think I may be at risk of having a seizure, its the only

> thing that relaxes the muscle tension and twitching I get that

> sometimes preceeds a seizure and levels me out again and works

> instantly every time.

>

> I've been reading about L-theanine and Kava kava has anyone tried these

> as valium alternatives?

>

> Many thanks,

>

Hi ,

Val-ium is nothing but one highly concentrated agent from Radix Val-eriana

(hence its name).

On the epi-list there were many posts by Foxhillers@aol who used Lobelia

inflata for stopping seizures immediately.

You might want to look into the archives, or contact her.

Sincerely,

Katharina

www.Auto-Thera.com

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State Licensured Naturopath (Psychotherapy)

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[Guest guest]

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,

Check your perspective here. Why wait for the crisis to occur? L-

theanine's action is to raise the Gaba levels as I understand it. It

works differently from Valium however. You can research the

difference and see how one affects certain Gaba receptors and the

other affects different ones. The point here is that--or the question

here is--why are you waiting to do something about you stress levels?

We all get caught sometimes and this is inevitable of course. What I

have done is to take L-theanine 100mg on an empty stomach in the

morning with my other meds and then again at night before bed--about

an hour before bedtime. It seems to help my overall stress levels and

anger levels to some degree. My best medicine is meditation before

sleep--by a long shot! I find that if I meditate until I can no

longer stay awake that this is the fearless and self-healing approach

I can take to sleeping well and gaining all the benefits.

I have also discovered a little magic to help sleep as well.

It is called " Slumber Spray. " Three sprays under the tongue and I am

on my way to a good nights sleep. I have tried many approaches to

sleeping better and this one is only one that works for me.

It is a combination of B3, Niacin, and a proprietary complex of HTP,

Melatonin, Valerian Root, Passion Flower, Hops and MSM. I have tried

these ingrediates separately but always have a blood sugar reaction

to them--probably due to the amounts.

Anyway: Pure Focus Products

La Mesa, CA 91942

800-819-5631

Ask for Dan--he will give you the weather from San Diego area.

Best Wishes,

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> ph_ipsy@...:

>

> > Thema: [ ] Valium - Any herbal alternatives?

> > Datum: 09.12.06 01:51:03 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit

> > Von: ph_ipsy@...

> > Beantworten:

> > An:

> > Internet-eMail:

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi there

> >

> > I'm wondering if anyone has an ideas for a fast acting natural

> > alternative to valium? I don't take medication but occasionally

take

> > valium if I think I may be at risk of having a seizure, its the

only

> > thing that relaxes the muscle tension and twitching I get that

> > sometimes preceeds a seizure and levels me out again and works

> > instantly every time.

> >

> > I've been reading about L-theanine and Kava kava has anyone tried

these

> > as valium alternatives?

> >

> > Many thanks,

> >

>

>

> Hi ,

> Val-ium is nothing but one highly concentrated agent from Radix Val-

eriana

> (hence its name).

>

> On the epi-list there were many posts by Foxhillers@aol who used

Lobelia

> inflata for stopping seizures immediately.

> You might want to look into the archives, or contact her.

>

>

> Sincerely,

> Katharina

> www.Auto-Thera.com

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Katharina Gutsche, M.A. Psycholinguistics, Dipl.-Psych.Clinical

Psychology,

> State Licensured Naturopath (Psychotherapy)

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

>

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i find magnesium phosphate works for twiches, and the herbs passionflower &

valerian

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[Guest guest]

Have you tried tincture of lobelia Inflata? It's good for arresting

seizures - 8 drops under the tongue.

How do you take the magnesium phosphate, passionflower & valerian ?

Liz

>

>

> i find magnesium phosphate works for twiches, and the herbs

passionflower & valerian

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info Mike - its always hard to know about these things

cos each time you see a herbal reccomended theres always info

somewhere else warning about the dangers.

I do already use valerian usually before I go to sleep if I'm feeling

a bit tired or stressed and find it helpful - it doesn't have the

same 'instant valium effect' that I'm looking for though.

Not on any AED's - haven't taken any for about 7 years now. They

didn't really work for me and I feel much more in control of my

condition now which has improved immensely but still learning!

>

>

> ,

>

> Kava Kava has been found to be a pro-convulsant in some studies,

Also, it

> may cause liver damage. So it is best to avoid it.

>

> The literature on Valerian suggests that it may be effective as a

mild

> anti-anxiety agent, and that it may also act as an anti-convulsant.

See

> link below and the attached article.

> http://botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/v/valeri01.html

>

> However, check to see if there are any possible interactions with

the AED

> you are taking. Herbs are drugs, and can interact with AEDs. It's

best to

> consult with your neurologist to see if he/she has any objections,

or at

> least search the Internet for anything suggesting an interaction.

>

> Mike

>

> (See attached file: Valerian review.pdf)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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@yah

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>

>

> Hi there

>

> I'm wondering if anyone has an ideas for a fast acting natural

> alternative to valium? I don't take medication but occasionally take

> valium if I think I may be at risk of having a seizure, its the only

> thing that relaxes the muscle tension and twitching I get that

> sometimes preceeds a seizure and levels me out again and works

> instantly every time.

>

> I've been reading about L-theanine and Kava kava has anyone tried

these

> as valium alternatives?

>

> Many thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Many thanks Katharina I will look into the lobelia - I didn't know

that about valerian, maybe a high dose of valerian would have a

similar effect then?

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> ph_ipsy@...:

>

> > Thema: [ ] Valium - Any herbal alternatives?

> > Datum: 09.12.06 01:51:03 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit

> > Von: ph_ipsy@...

> > Beantworten:

> > An:

> > Internet-eMail:

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi there

> >

> > I'm wondering if anyone has an ideas for a fast acting natural

> > alternative to valium? I don't take medication but occasionally

take

> > valium if I think I may be at risk of having a seizure, its the

only

> > thing that relaxes the muscle tension and twitching I get that

> > sometimes preceeds a seizure and levels me out again and works

> > instantly every time.

> >

> > I've been reading about L-theanine and Kava kava has anyone tried

these

> > as valium alternatives?

> >

> > Many thanks,

> >

>

>

> Hi ,

> Val-ium is nothing but one highly concentrated agent from Radix Val-

eriana

> (hence its name).

>

> On the epi-list there were many posts by Foxhillers@aol who used

Lobelia

> inflata for stopping seizures immediately.

> You might want to look into the archives, or contact her.

>

>

> Sincerely,

> Katharina

> www.Auto-Thera.com

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Katharina Gutsche, M.A. Psycholinguistics, Dipl.-Psych.Clinical

Psychology,

> State Licensured Naturopath (Psychotherapy)

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I use valerian but just as an anti-stress thing to help me get a good

sleep as I find the effects too subtle for anything else.

I'll try the mag phos - how much do you take for it to work fast?

>

>

> i find magnesium phosphate works for twiches, and the herbs

passionflower & valerian

>

>

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Hi Liz

I've been hearing a lot about lobelia- can't seem to get hold of it

in England though its restricted. Could you reccomend a supplier?

Many thanks for the info

> >

> >

> > i find magnesium phosphate works for twiches, and the herbs

> passionflower & valerian

> >

> >

> > TREMORAhttp://tremorahowells.tripod.com/mydad/

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In einer eMail vom 15.12.06 05:09:40 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt

ph_ipsy@...:

> Hi Liz

>

> I've been hearing a lot about lobelia- can't seem to get hold of it

> in England though its restricted. Could you reccomend a supplier?

>

> Many thanks for the info

>

>

>

, try the

British Herbal Medicine Association

at Field House, Lye H

I have four more institutions, just in case you are not successful with them.

Sincerely,

Katharina

www.Auto-Thera.com

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Katharina Gutsche, M.A. Psycholinguistics, Dipl.-Psych.Clinical Psychology,

State Licensured Naturopath (Psychotherapy)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~