Guest guest Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 Dear QXCI users, According to Dr. Ravnskov, MD who wrote "The Cholesterol Myth" normal cholesterol for a person under 55 is 230 to 260. If you have maintained levels within this range, as you age the cholesterol will normallyand safely go up slowly (or fast for rapid healing responses) you have no worries and no reason to check your levels. Women over 65 live longer and are healthier (heal faster) with higher levels (above 500 to even 1000!) If you have levels above 260 under the age of 55 then you have a problem. Diet doesn't help (if you have reduced or eliminated white flour and sugar as an issue) but exercise usually does. High levels in a younger person usually means they are heading for a heart attack or stroke around age 55. Funny thing is research is showing that eating foods high in saturated fat helps the levels go down! The real reason to check our levels is to make sure they are not too low! Low levels put you at risk for many problems including heart attack, cancer, depression, hormone problems, reproductive problems, learning problems, memory loss, and auto immune conditions. Yes we have been lead astray yet again. Read the book as it is excellent. Really an exhaustive look at the history of how we have come to believe such an erroneous idea. Marketing and bad science bought and paid for by our lovely and ever so persistent pharmacartel. More research and education on this issue is available on www.westonaprice.org , www.mercola.com and see if you can find Taubes article published in the New York Times last summer What is it has all been a Big Fat Lie. Excellent. We need saturated fat to be healthy. Coconut oil is excellent. Pure lard is excellent, whole milk, whole milk cheese and yogurt is especially important for children. A low fat diet is dangerous and a genocidal recommendation in my opinion. Vegetables oils of all kinds go rancid rapidly, especially flax and causes damage to our DNA and RNA. Also it is not saturated. Olive oil is stable and excellent, but it is not saturated. Good cod liver oil (especially Carlson's from Norwegian) is excellent for its A, D, E, EPA and DHEA, but buy small bottles and keep it cold. But it is not saturated either. Always include some saturated fat in your diet. If you can't digest fat, see Dr. Loomis's web site for a trained enzyme therapist in your area. www.loomisenzymes.com Digestive health is primary to good health. Period! Many blessings, victoria -----Original Message-----From: and Nana Coulter [mailto:handz@...]Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:23 AMqxci-english Subject: Re: Cholestrol Hi Bill, I do eat meat but also take apple cider vinegar 1 tablespoon daily to help digest the animal proteins. High BP and elevated cholesterol is because of a multitude of reasons. I always look for dietary and environmental and hereditary factors. I look at the kidney for high BP and usually find heavy metals, nicotine or lack of protein digestion as the primary cause. Apple cider vinegar helps break down the bi products of the kidney and flushes it out. You also have to do a specific detox for the toxin related. I do CGH homeopathic remedy annually (for heavy metals and nicotine) and the liver cleanse 6 monthly to reduce cholesterol levels. I used to smoke 5 years ago but still read high as I am now sensitive to passive smoking. I have amalgam fillings so will constantly be exposed to mercury and we have lead in our environment. Hope this helps. Nana Cholestrol What is the protocol for treating elevated cholestrol and triglicerides. Thank you. Elly............................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 Could you please on your computer save this as Word doc or RTF and attach again - for those of us without Microsoft Works Suite it's unreadable!! Savage MA RSHom FSHom 26 Winstanley Road Saffron Walden Essex CB11 3EQ 01799 524442 Mobile: 07889 989398 Email: roger.jo@... Re: Cholestrol Attached liver cleanse Nana Cholestrol > > > > > > What is the protocol for treating elevated > > cholestrol and > > triglicerides. Thank you. Elly > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 , LIVER CLEANSE It is the job of the liver to make bile to deliver to the gall bladder which is just a storage reservoir. Eating fat or protein triggers the gallbladder to squeeze itself empty after about twenty minutes. For many persons the bilary tubing in the liver is choked full of liver stones, they are not calcified and too small to be seen on an xray. These underdeveloped gall stones cause allergies, shoulder pain, bursitis and shoulder arthritis. You cant clean a liver with living parasites in it. Zap daily for a week before commencing with the cleanse or have an energyscan. You will need to choose two days when you can rest. Ingredients: Epsom Salts 4 tablespoons, Olive oil (half a cup), Fresh grapefruit 1 large or 2 small. For breakfast and lunch on the day of the cleanse do not eat any fat no butter or milk eat only cooked cereal with fruit and vegetables. 2:00pm Do not eat or drink after 2 o’clock except water. Prepare the Epsom salts mix 4 tbls in 3 cups of water and put in the fridge. 6:00pm Drink one serving ¾ cup of Epsom salts. Squeeze the grapefruit at least 1 cup set it on the bench. 8:00pm Drink one serving ¾ cup of Epsom salts. 9:45pm Pour ½ cup of olive oil into a jar and add the grapefruit juice, shake to mix 10:00pm Drink the grapefruit and olive oil then go to bed straight away. The sooner you lie down the more you will eliminate. Next morning on awakening (not before 6am) take the third dose of Epsom salts. 2 Hours later take the last of the Epsom Salts. After 2 More hours you may eat very lightly, fruit first then light meals. You should see the green coloured stones floating in the toilet bowl and a greasy film this is the cholesterol. Cholestrol> >> >> > What is the protocol for treating elevated> > cholestrol and> > triglicerides. Thank you. Elly> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 Dear All, Don't forget that too much fructose will be converted into cholesterol! So pay attention to (lots of) apple juice, orange juice etc. Bert van Aalst Cholestrol What is the protocol for treating elevated cholestrol and triglicerides. Thank you. Elly............................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 hi, i have once put together a liver cleanse, that works basically like this one, only a few little additions. i start the fasting one day before with only drinking fresh apple juice and eating some peeled apples (all organic of course). i also take malic acid along with this, because this increases bile production. the apples do, too. this preparation already produces so much bile, that the ducts are well lubricated. while drinking the olive oil (with lemon juice, which works better, i find) i take 4 capsules of black walnut hulls to ensure, that no parasites enter the liver. for sleeping i take ornithin capsules. when laying down on the right side, i put a hot water bottle underneath the liver area, and pull the right knee up and try to stay in this positition as long as possible. but this is only my way..... it works good especially for people, who are a little scared, that a stone might get stuck... all the best marlene Cholestrol> >> >> > What is the protocol for treating elevated> > cholestrol and> > triglicerides. Thank you. Elly> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 14:22:09 -0000, laura Wilkins <montemomma2002@...> wrote: > In 6 months the 230 dropped to 210.But the doctor was most impressed that the good bad ratio was so favorable. I asked him if he told the doctor about the coconut oil.He said that even though he was convinced about coconut oils benefits ,he wasnt about to tell the doctor about consuming all that cholesterol.(He also eats 3 eggs and bacon fried in that coconut fat every morning for breakfast) that's good news, congratulations to you and your hubby. I also consume my coconut oil that way in the morning - by using it for frying eggs. - jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 I have to ask, have you read something that says to brush your teeth with CO? Does it actually get them clean? Do you mix it with something? I'm sure it would kill bad breathe since foul breathe odor is bacteria and CO is antibacterial. I use it for deoderant sucessfully, but never thought to use it for tooth cleanser. <karen.anderson9@...> wrote: Thanks for you responses. I don't have a high cholesterol problem either but the thought of downing 3 tablespoons of oil a day made me feel sort of uncomfortable. I've been doing VCO for over a month and am only taking a tablespoon and a half now but I have in fact lost a couple of pounds and I do seem to have more energy. I have not had a chance to have my cholesterol checked. I have become a big VCO fan and use it for everything. I even brush my teeth with it. --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Take your vco frozen or drink as liquid followed with beverages say juice or even warm water. <karen.anderson9@...> wrote:Thanks for you responses. I don't have a high cholesterol problem either but the thought of downing 3 tablespoons of oil a day made me feel sort of uncomfortable. I've been doing VCO for over a month and am only taking a tablespoon and a half now but I have in fact lost a couple of pounds and I do seem to have more energy. I have not had a chance to have my cholesterol checked. I have become a big VCO fan and use it for everything. I even brush my teeth with it. --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Bruce, do you know this for a fact about 's study? He specifically says that they were taken aback by the finding: " We compared the prevalence of Western diseases in each country with diet and lifestyle variables and, to our surprise, we found that one of the strongest predictors of Western diseases was blood cholesterol. " (p. 77) More: " What the China Study added, however, was an unsurpassed amount of data on death rates for many different diseases and a unique range of dietary experience. " (p. 76) He spends several pages on the comprehensiveness of the study. He says: " When we were done we had more than 8,000 statistically significant associations between lifestyle, diet and disease variables. We had a study that was unmatched in terms of comprehensiveness, quality and uniqueness. We had what the New York Times termed 'the Grand Prix of epidemiology.' " (p. 73) And: " We were able to create the most comprehensive snapshot of diet, lifestyle and disease ever taken. " (p. 72) And finally: " In almost all other studies, all of which are Western, scientists are comparing diets rich in animal-based foods to diets very rich in animal-based foods. The difference between rural Chinese diets and Western diets, and the ensuring disease patterns, is enormous. It was this distinction, as much as any other, that made this study so important. " (p. 75) Thank you, Nina Re: cholesterol Nina, 's study was bias to fit the beliefs of those working on the study. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Nina, I have read 's book on the China Study. It is strongly bias and grossly anti-saturated fat and anti-cholesterol , and simply repeats the politically correct dogma championed by the pharmaceutical industry. Simply because states his study is wonderful and marvelous and proves all of this pet theories doesn't make the study factual. Anybody can claim their own study is a groundbreaking historical event. But just saying so doesn't make it true. These twisted studies fool many people because 99.99% never take the time to actually read the studies and analyze how the data was gathered and presented. The vast majority of people rely on only the abstract or someone else's interpretation of the study. Studies can be twisted and statistics manipulated to prove just about anything. For example, when Ancel Keys proposed the idea that a high fat diet was the cause of heart disease four decades ago he graphed the fat consumption vs. heart disease death rate of seven countries (in one study he used 6 counties and in another 7). His graph showed a remarkable correlation between the amount of fat eaten and the rate of heart disease. His work is still used today to support the lipid theory of heart disease. The problem with his study and this graph is that it was totally fabricated by selecting only those points that proved his theory. Keys had data on at least 20 countries but only used the select few that matched his bias. If he had graphed all the data he had, the correlation between fat intake and heart disease would disappear. Like , Keys claimed his study was groundbreaking, and people believed him. This type of deception is rampant and unless you read the studies yourself and understand what is going on, you will be mislead just like most everyone else. Cholesterol is a natural part of our bodies. Our liver makes cholesterol. Our liver makes far more cholesterol than we ever get in our foods. In fact if you tried to lower your cholesterol by eliminating all the fat in your diet your cholesterol would only drop about 5-10% at most. Too small of an effect to be of any consequence. The reason for this is that if you reduce your cholesterol consumption the liver will produce more, if you eat more cholesterol the liver produces less. Therefore, a person MUST take cholesterol-lowering drugs in order to lower cholesterol by significant amount. Doctors and the pharmaceutical industry know this fact very well. They will give lip service to lowering cholesterol by diet while they know for a fact reducing saturated fat and cholesterol from diet alone will NOT be effective. After the diet approach fails to lower cholesterol significantly the doctor will sadly state that you are one of those that needs drugs. Its all a scheme leading to drug use and big profits by the pharmaceutical industry. Cholesterol is NOT a poison. It is vital to your health. Our bodies use cholesterol to make hormones like testosterone and progesterone, and vitamin D. Cholesterol is a vital component of every cell in your body. Your brain is composed predominately of fat and cholesterol. It is interesting to note that people on cholesterol-lowering drugs have a higher rate of mental instability, violence, and suicide. Cholesterol-lowering drugs are toxic, they interfere with the liver's ability to manufacture cholesterol and therefore lowers cholesterol throughout the body--including the brain! As a consequence, mental function is altered. Because cholesterol-lowering drugs attack the liver and prevent it from carrying on its normal function, liver damage is a major side effect of cholesterol-lowering drugs. Another side effect is muscle wasting. People die from muscle wasting caused by these drugs. Interesting to note that the heart is a muscle and, therefore, subject to the wasting effects caused by these drugs. Removing saturated fat and cholesterol from the diet will not have any significant effect on cholesterol levels. This fact alone disproves the lipid or cholesterol theory that a high fat diet increases cholesterol and causes heart disease. Populations around the world who have very high fat diets have normal cholesterol levels. Other factors determine cholesterol levels more than dietary fat. Again there is no study anywhere that has been able to prove that high cholesterol causes heart disease. I don't want to take any more time discussing this issue. If you want to know more I suggest to go to http://www.thincs.org/ for further information. Bruce Re: cholesterol > > > Nina, > > 's study was bias to fit the beliefs of those working on the > study. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Bruce, What I find so staggering about this is,that if they know what you are saying is true...then they must know these drugs kill people. What about their own health?If they have a cholesterol problem do they follow their own advice or do differantly?If so thats disgustingly hypocritical !! Or are they so blinded by their need to be recognised in the " scietific community " that they literally are blinded and take the course that will destroy their own health. I really cant get my head around this,that money and the need to be recognised corrupts people so much,when the whole point of doing these studies is to improve peoples health. My grandmother had " high " cholesterol and went on these drugs and it ended her life not that long after.Now my mother has concerns because a blood test showed she has high cholesterol.She wont take the drugs because of what it did to my granmother ,but she is worried just the same.I have told her some of the things you have mentioned,but she is a nurse and has trouble believing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 , For the most part, doctors and nurses don't understand the cholesterol issue. They are brainwashed by the educational material and continuing education seminars sponsored by the pharmaceutical industry. Also keep in mind that medical journals get all of their money from advertising from these companies. Consequently, these companies have an enormous influence in what medical journals choose to publish and not publish. I know of instances where journal editors were threatened with the loss of advertising for publishing articles on an herbs that competed with drugs sold by some of the journal's advertisers. This is why there appear to be many pro cholesterol theory studies published and why researchers twist their data to fit the " politically correct " dogma. If they don't, then they don't get published and their careers suffer. Research is very competitive. The grants they get from sponsors pays their mortgage and food bills as well as funds their studies and advances their careers. If they produce results that are unfavorable to the sponsor and publicize these results they will not get funded again by the sponsor or anyone else in the industry because they will be labeled a troublemaker. Essentially killing their career. It wasn't always like this. Years ago most researchers were concerned about finding and publishing the truth regardless of the consequences. Not nowadays. This situation has gotten worse over the past 30 years or so. Just in the past few weeks I've read articles in the newspaper where two totally unrelated groundbreaking studies that have been widely accepted have proven to be totally bogus. The researchers made up or twisted the data to promote their careers. These were high profile cases because their studies had enormous significance, but many other researchers working on less dramatic issues are doing the same thing. It is very common now. If you really want to know what a study has found you must read the study in detail and even redo the math to check their calculations and statistics. This is why researchers never accept the results of one or two studies but require many studies from various researchers to verify the results. Bruce Re: cholesterol > Bruce, > What I find so staggering about this is,that if they know what you are > saying is true...then they must know these drugs kill people. What > about their own health?If they have a cholesterol problem do they > follow their own advice or do differantly?If so thats disgustingly > hypocritical !! Or are they so blinded by their need to be recognised > in the " scietific community " that they literally are blinded and take > the course that will destroy their own health. > > I really cant get my head around this,that money and the need to be > recognised corrupts people so much,when the whole point of doing these > studies is to improve peoples health. > > My grandmother had " high " cholesterol and went on these drugs and it > ended her life not that long after.Now my mother has concerns because a > blood test showed she has high cholesterol.She wont take the drugs > because of what it did to my granmother ,but she is worried just the > same.I have told her some of the things you have mentioned,but she is a > nurse and has trouble believing it. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Both my LDL and my HDL went up a lot when I started VCO, but the HDL went up much more. As a result, my ratio (total cholesterol divided by HDL) went down. My last HDL measure was around 108 or so, and anything over 50 is optimal. When I got a 70 I was told, " phenomenal " , and now it is way higher! My ratio dropped from about 2.38 (which it had been for years) to about 2.07 (this is all coming from memory). It´s an awesome reading. Optimal is anything under 3.4. LDL is 89 or 97 or something in that area, I don´t remember exactly. I know Bruce says that cholesterol is basically uncorrelated at all with heart disease, but I see cholesterol as a flag, an educational device to tell you how your whole body is faring. In other words, when a food has clearly raised my HDL and lowered my ratio dramatically, that tells me good things! Nina cholesterol > >I'm interested to know if anyone has had a significant change in their >cholesterol level with eating VCO. > >Has anyone found their cholesterol has gone up or down? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Hi , My total cholesterol was always 130-140 range for as long as I can remember. My last bloodwork, which was done in January showed my total cholesterol was 214 with my LDL at 126 and my HDL at 69. My bloodwork about a year ago was similar. This is all since I began using CO on a regular basis about 3 years ago. Joan > " I'm interested to know if anyone has had a significant change in their > cholesterol level with eating VCO. > > Has anyone found their cholesterol has gone up or down? " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Joan, how much coconut oil are you using? Are you cooking with it? Personally, I not sure how much I am getting because, although I don't take it alone, I use coconut milk in many things. I have not changed my diet but I have gained a few pounds. Re: cholesterol Hi , My total cholesterol was always 130-140 range for as long as I can remember. My last bloodwork, which was done in January showed my total cholesterol was 214 with my LDL at 126 and my HDL at 69. My bloodwork about a year ago was similar. This is all since I began using CO on a regular basis about 3 years ago. Joan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Hi , I probably average about 2 TBS. per day. I use only EP because it's cheaper and has no taste. I usually put it in my oatmeal or on veggies, in chili, rice, etc. Joan > Hi , > > My total cholesterol was always 130-140 range for as long as I can > remember. My last bloodwork, which was done in January showed my > total cholesterol was 214 with my LDL at 126 and my HDL at 69. My > bloodwork about a year ago was similar. This is all since I began > using CO on a regular basis about 3 years ago. > > Joan > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 , A ratio of 2.9 is better than optimal. It is extremely good. Anything below 3.4 is in the " best " category. You are doing fine. If your HDL and LDL went up and your total chol went down, that means your triglycerides went WAY down. Way to go, and stick with it big-time. What was your ratio before? Nina cholesterol is 2.9 ratio bad? since i have been using VCO my total cholestrol went down, hdl went up and my ldl went up. should i continue to use VCO? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.24/514 - Release Date: 11/2/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 probably because your triglycerides went down and it is i think a very good sign. recently i read about some good things even about ldl, it is produced by our body to do the repair work and it may not be as bad. HDL going up is also good sign. n.g. jacqueline33875 <jacqueline33875@...> wrote: is 2.9 ratio bad? since i have been using VCO my total cholestrol went down, hdl went up and my ldl went up. should i continue to use VCO? --------------------------------- Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on the new .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 > > > Well the 0.5 average risk for a woman, which is the lowest risk is 3.3 and > mine was a whole point lower!!!!! Couldn't get much better than that!!!!! > > That's fantastic KC With regard to the chocolate fountain. Though it must be healthier to use the coconut oil, there is still vegetable fat in the chocolate itself. I used to have one but using oil in it put me off. Especially as it goes in and out of the fridge and gets reheated if you don't use it all. It seems unhygenic to me as well. I gave up chocolate awhile back but all this talk about choc fountains is making me want some.lol I'm worried i'll be tempted over christmas and i'll be back on it again. I could eat a family sized bar myself no trouble but then i'd get really bad palpitations and i've been told i'm sensitive to it. Carob is not the same! Sally > > > > > > > > [> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 I have some results to share on cholesterol and vco. i started taking vco around july 06 and have been taking it ever since..about 1- 2 tbs per day. july 06 Dec 06 cholesterol 112 185 triglyc 27 51 HDL 46 69 LDL 61 106 basically everything has gone up for me. so at first glance, i wondered if vco is good for me. what ratio do i need to look at? thanks for any explanations here. vandana > is 2.9 ratio bad? since i have been using VCO my total cholestrol > went down, hdl went up and my ldl went up. should i continue to use > VCO? > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on the new .com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 hi there, i havne't heard from anyone. does anyone have any observations regarding my numbers? i know i need to read up on this more..but so far what i've read has confused me. Basically my LDL has gone up quite high since taking vco. do i need to be worried at the dramatic jump? in additon to the vco, i have also been consuming more eggs from pasture fed source, and raw kefir/cheese. but my weight is still the same, 110 lbs. here are the numbers again, in a clearer format. July 06 cholesterol - 112 triglyc - 27 HDL - 46 LDL - 61 Dec 06 cholesterol - 185 tryglyc - 51 HDL - 69 LDL - 106 thanks for any comments. vandana > > is 2.9 ratio bad? since i have been using VCO my total > cholestrol > > went down, hdl went up and my ldl went up. should i continue to use > > VCO? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on > the new .com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 Vandana I'm not at Dr. but those numbers look good to me. scott Coconut Oil@...: vandana.purohit@...: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 19:30:08 +0000Subject: Re: cholesterol hi there, i havne't heard from anyone. does anyone have any observations regarding my numbers? i know i need to read up on this more..but so far what i've read has confused me. Basically my LDL has gone up quite high since taking vco. do i need to be worried at the dramatic jump? in additon to the vco, i have also been consuming more eggs from pasture fed source, and raw kefir/cheese. but my weight is still the same, 110 lbs. here are the numbers again, in a clearer format.July 06cholesterol - 112triglyc - 27HDL - 46LDL - 61Dec 06cholesterol - 185tryglyc - 51HDL - 69LDL - 106thanks for any comments.vandana> > is 2.9 ratio bad? since i have been using VCO my total > cholestrol > > went down, hdl went up and my ldl went up. should i continue to use > > VCO? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on > the new .com> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 [:-?] Hmmm, let's see. The preferable range for total cholesterol is 200 mg/dl.Your HDL went up. This is a good thing because " experts " believe that it helps to direct LDL ( bad cholesterol ) from the arteries to the liver which rids it from the body. It is good to see a rise in HDL cholesterol. With your HDL on the rise, I would suspect that the LDL will come down. The rise in LDL alarms me but at the moment it isn't scary. LDL is preferred to be 100mg/dl. But, most people have an optimal range of 130. Triglycerides optimal range is less than 150 mg/dl. You are safe. In conclusin, you are well under the optimal ranges but you don't want the LDL to continue rising. Some people will see a temprary increase in cholesterol when they change their diets, especially if you are limiting your carbohydrates. In general things stabilize after about 6-8 months. I would keep doing as you are and check your levels in a couple of months. With your HDL rising, LDL should come down. Don't give up the VCO, it helps to raise HDL levels. Here is more on Cholesterol: http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=180 <http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=180> > > > is 2.9 ratio bad? since i have been using VCO my total > > cholestrol > > > went down, hdl went up and my ldl went up. should i continue to > use > > > VCO? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right > on > > the new .com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 You don't want your cholesterol to be low. It's best if it's a little high. Low serum total cholesterol is associated with marked increase in mortality in advanced heart failure. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=12397569 & dopt=Abstract ....low cholesterol was significantly associated with all-cause mortality, showing significant associations with death through cancer, liver diseases, and mental diseases. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=15006277 More evidence that a low-carb, saturated fat diet is better for diabetics http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/diabetes-5.html http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1208952 Be sure to include plenty of saturated fat in your diet especially if you are diabetic, like butter and animal fat from grass fed animals. > > > > is 2.9 ratio bad? since i have been using VCO my total > > > cholestrol > > > > went down, hdl went up and my ldl went up. should i continue to > > use > > > > VCO? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right > > on > > > the new .com > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 Copy and past the links... Low serum total cholesterol is associated with marked increase in mortality in advanced heart failure. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=12397569 & dopt=Abstract ....low cholesterol was significantly associated with all-cause mortality, showing significant associations with death through cancer, liver diseases, and mental diseases. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=15006277 > > > > > > > > > > > is 2.9 ratio bad? since i have been using VCO my total > > > > cholestrol > > > > > went down, hdl went up and my ldl went up. should i continue > to > > > use > > > > > VCO? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > Get your email and see which of your friends are online - > Right > > > on > > > > the new .com > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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