Guest guest Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 I also wonder if stress at home could be an issue here? Maybe she feels less stress when she travels and the acne clears up as a result? Just an additional thought. Kim E Saxe, ND Milwaukee, WI chronic dz, cancer <lenifelton@...> wrote: Hi ,It sounds like your email itself holds the pertinent info - skin clearing when leaves home and issue returning when she returns home. She may well be dealing with some environmental or pet or food allergy (some food she eats at home which she does not when she travels). I see skin issues with kidney, liver, or colon toxicity. From a Chinese traditional perspective, skin is 3rd kidney, maybe more kidney support. Also, I've seen persistent acne with hormonal issues (also liver related). It seems though that you have really just gotten started on drainage. From a nutraceutical perspective, you might want to make sure she is getting good essential fatty acids and sufficient zinc supplementation. I knew of a little girl a colleague worked with who was covered with acne head to toe (almost literally) and getting her on zinc turned it around - probably zinc's influence of competing with metals, etc.Hope this helps.Best, , San Ramon/Los Gatos, CA 925-838-8688.At 01:36 PM 10/10/2005 -0700, you wrote: Greetings again. I have a 29 year old female who is struggling with acne. So far, over the course of 9 months, she has stopped smoking, reduced her alcohol intake to almost nothing, has changed her diet, decreased sugar intake significantly and is following the BTGs, especially COP for several months now. We have done 1, 20, 243 and 1, 5, 18 as she has struggled with clearing her lungs out from excess phlegm. She has often had bad break outs on her face. She uses good quality cleaning products / lotions... for her face. She has noticed that it clears up when she travels and another break out occurs when she returns to town. She has 2 dogs and cats which she suspects MAY be a problem but she is careful about touching them. There is of course dander everywhere but she has always been around animals. She lives on a farm out in the gorge (no actual farming occurs though) and gets lots of fresh air. I am cautious about starting UNDAs for her skin but she is VERY frustrated and is wanting her skin to clear up, at least a little. Any thoughts? Thank you. P. Lambert, ND, L.Ac, MSOM, LMTNaturopathic PhysicianLicensed AcupuncturistPortland, OregonYour sacred place is where you find yourself again and again. ph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 , How long has she had acne? What system do you think is REALLY the source of the problem? She has made wonderful changes - but I suspect the timeline is still unrealistic to be seeing a change. She is having problems clearing her lungs -a primary emunctory. So the secondary emunctory HAS TO DISCHARGE. And it will continue to discharge until ALL the primary emunctories are open and clear. Then the skin will NOT HAVE TO BE USED. I don't know what system to address next but it seems like 5, 19, 49 is due based on what you said. Dick Thom Beaverton, OR cancer, endocrine PS- I am very happy about your entrepreneurial spirit. Greetings again. I have a 29 year old female who is struggling with acne. So far, over the course of 9 months, she has stopped smoking, reduced her alcohol intake to almost nothing, has changed her diet, decreased sugar intake significantly and is following the BTGs, especially COP for several months now. We have done 1, 20, 243 and 1, 5, 18 as she has struggled with clearing her lungs out from excess phlegm. She has often had bad break outs on her face. She uses good quality cleaning products / lotions... for her face. She has noticed that it clears up when she travels and another break out occurs when she returns to town. She has 2 dogs and cats which she suspects MAY be a problem but she is careful about touching them. There is of course dander everywhere but she has always been around animals. She lives on a farm out in the gorge (no actual farming occurs though) and gets lots of fresh air. I am cautious about starting UNDAs for her skin but she is VERY frustrated and is wanting her skin to clear up, at least a little. Any thoughts? Thank you. P. Lambert, ND, L.Ac, MSOM, LMT Naturopathic Physician Licensed Acupuncturist Portland, Oregon Your sacred place is where you find yourself again and again. ph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 , How long has she had acne? What system do you think is REALLY the source of the problem? She has made wonderful changes - but I suspect the timeline is still unrealistic to be seeing a change. She is having problems clearing her lungs -a primary emunctory. So the secondary emunctory HAS TO DISCHARGE. And it will continue to discharge until ALL the primary emunctories are open and clear. Then the skin will NOT HAVE TO BE USED. I don't know what system to address next but it seems like 5, 19, 49 is due based on what you said. Dick Thom Beaverton, OR cancer, endocrine PS- I am very happy about your entrepreneurial spirit. Greetings again. I have a 29 year old female who is struggling with acne. So far, over the course of 9 months, she has stopped smoking, reduced her alcohol intake to almost nothing, has changed her diet, decreased sugar intake significantly and is following the BTGs, especially COP for several months now. We have done 1, 20, 243 and 1, 5, 18 as she has struggled with clearing her lungs out from excess phlegm. She has often had bad break outs on her face. She uses good quality cleaning products / lotions... for her face. She has noticed that it clears up when she travels and another break out occurs when she returns to town. She has 2 dogs and cats which she suspects MAY be a problem but she is careful about touching them. There is of course dander everywhere but she has always been around animals. She lives on a farm out in the gorge (no actual farming occurs though) and gets lots of fresh air. I am cautious about starting UNDAs for her skin but she is VERY frustrated and is wanting her skin to clear up, at least a little. Any thoughts? Thank you. P. Lambert, ND, L.Ac, MSOM, LMT Naturopathic Physician Licensed Acupuncturist Portland, Oregon Your sacred place is where you find yourself again and again. ph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Hi . You may also want to consider adding some greens supplement to help with the drainage and detoxification. I usually replace multis with greens especially in patients with skin disorders. Cristina Merluza, ND Family Practice Abbotsford, BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Hi Cristina Do you mean phytogreens for example? I do not have her on a multi - I typically do not use multis - but greens is a good thought. angela P. Lambert, ND, L.Ac, MSOM, LMTNaturopathic PhysicianLicensed AcupuncturistPortland, OregonYour sacred place is where you find yourself again and again. ph Re: acne Hi . You may also want to consider adding some greens supplement to help with the drainage and detoxification. I usually replace multis with greens especially in patients with skin disorders. Cristina Merluza, ND Family Practice Abbotsford, BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Believe me when I tell you that I feel your daughter's pain, and I am well aquainted with the term " pizza face " . The most horrible kind of acne is the cystic kind, and from my experience there's nothing topical that helps. Most of my scars are the result of the dermatologist cutting my skin to drain the cysts. I spent years on antibiotics and they really help, but it eventually led to a hospital stay because I developed an antibiotic resistant infection, and I have a laundry list of medications I found out the hard way that I am allergic to. My best advice is to find a reputable dermatologist. I'm all for the natural treatment, I really am, but there are some powerful (and potentially dangerous) tools, like Accutane, that they have access to - and they do work. It depends on the seriousnes of the problem. They can advise you best on what you need. My daughter does extremely well with ProActiv, her 17 year old skin is nothing like mine was (thank God). The active ingredient in that is benzoyl peroxide, but it doesn't work well for the cystic kind, it can actually make that worse. Salicylic acid is very effective, too, if the problem is relatively mild. 20 years post-Accutane, I can tell you that my best treatment today is my own facial cleansing oil. Sounds crazy, but I swear by it for my own face. I'll send you a sample if you want to contact me privately. Traci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Lynn, was it you who said you are getting acne? I am too! I just noticed in the mirror today. They have been popping up during the day. I have about a dozen small hard red bumps on my chin and upper lip. Only one has a head. I NEVER get acne. My joints hurt too -- knees and back. They usually don't hurt like this. I am really not enjoying the body odor. I think I may buy some Mitchum. I need to be talked out of that as it will probably put more heavy metals into my body. Even using Povidone iodine on my armpits doesn't work, and that works like magic usually (not advised though because of additives). Is there some kind of tea that will deodorize me from the inside out? My friend said she swears she can't smell me, but I feel if I can smell myself then others can too. Thank goodness it's not summer!!! Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 In homeopathy they teach that the body heals from the top down and the inside out. Your bodies are probably pushing the toxins out of your body through your skin. That would be a good thing, don't stop them, let them continue. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 > I am really not enjoying the body odor. I think I may buy some Mitchum. I > need to be talked out of that as it will probably put more heavy metals into > my body. -----> I'm curious if you happen to be using progesterone creams. I developed the weirdst most horrible body odor on that. When that happened I had to use a charcoal based body soap. It helped some if I washed twice a day with it. If the body odor is anything like what happened with me I don't think any deodorant would have really made a difference. I just had to live with it for awhile. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 All this is making me think I need to do a general heavy metal detox. But I suppose I should wait until after the bromine detox. Elaine > In homeopathy they teach that the body heals from the top down and the inside > out. Your bodies are probably pushing the toxins out of your body through > your skin. That would be a good thing, don't stop them, let them continue. > > Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Not that I know of. I wish. My daughter never used it on her acne, instead using lots of expensive meds to control it, and never even tried it. Just experiment a bit and let us know how it goes. For the facial area, I usually recommend putting wetted cloths on all 4 wired ends to reduce the power output a bit, since the facial skin is more delicate and the acne is close to the surface so requires less power. bG > > Just wondering if anyone has treated acne with the Apprentice. (on face and neck) How > would this be done? Or could you lead me to some reading about this?? thanks, barb in > little rock > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 vitamin d promotes antibacterial peptides which would also help (for those who would like justifying 'research', if you put 'vitamin d antibacterial peptides' into google u will be able to find more than a few papers) theres no one answer iodine is a poison so you want to be careful broken sleep and going hyper are signs of too much, you just stop applying it and it wears off after several days i have written up on diluting lugosl in " iodine' in the index of http://tinyurl.com/2csa3 whole body solar noon sun exposure in mid summer is also helpful i have written up on that is 'skin vitamin d' in the same index > > My 3 teenagers are excited about trying iodine to relieve their acne. My two sons are on antibiotics prescribed by their dermatologist who insists that diet has nothing to do with acne. You say, " When I eat pizza my face breaks out, " and he says, " No, it doesn't. " > > When I told my 17-year-old son about iodine, he stopped all his meds and began painting like a madman! He says he thinks it's working. Anyway, what is the best form of iodine to use for acne and in what dosage? > > My Iodoral is on it's way, and I can't wait to see what it does for my fibrocystic and cancerous breasts! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 >From: " andrew " <alevin@...> >iodine is a poison so you want to be careful Iodine is a " poison " the same way water is. Drink too much of that you die. Even marathon runners. But, yes, one should be careful and not take too much. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Search—Your way, your world, right now! http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-us & FORM=WLMTAG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 Skipper, is painting a good way to tell if you are taking too much, assuming that if you don't need it then it will not be absorbed? ----- Original Message ----- But, yes, one should be careful and not take too much.Skipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 its not a poison the same way water is, its extremely toxic and a very unpleasant way to die if you take too much it only takes one person to killed or injured from an overdose for the fda to ban it or put it on prescription, you know the way those guys think a search on the web indicates a lethal dose of iodine is about 2000 milligrams (2 grams) and i would never apply more than several mg maximium to my skin (of which only a small fraction is absorbed) and would never do more than 300 micrograms orally (but i don't take oral iodine) the iodoral dose of 50mg (1/40th) is too close to the lethal dose imo > > >From: " andrew " <alevin@...> > > > >iodine is a poison so you want to be careful > > Iodine is a " poison " the same way water is. Drink too much of that you die. > Even marathon runners. > > But, yes, one should be careful and not take too much. > > Skipper > > _________________________________________________________________ > Search—Your way, your world, right now! > http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en- us & FORM=WLMTAG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 >From: " King's Song " <melanie@...> >Skipper, is painting a good way to tell if you are taking too much, >assuming that if you don't need it then it will not be absorbed? > Controversial, but some think it's a good indicator. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Be seen and heard with Windows Live Messenger and Microsoft LifeCams http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.mic\ rosoft.com/hardware/digitalcommunication/default.mspx?locale=en-us & source=hmtagl\ ine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 >From: " andrew " <alevin@...> >the iodoral dose of 50mg (1/40th) is too close to the lethal dose imo > Then not only do you tend to be rude, you disagree with many people on this list, and the doctors that treat them with Iodoral. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.win\ dowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 --- andrew <alevin@...> wrote: > > the iodoral dose of 50mg (1/40th) is too close to the lethal dose imo > Then one extra strength tylenol is probably (1/40th) too close to the lethal dose for you too, no? http://www.druginfonet.com/index.php?pageID=faq/new/DRUG_FAQ/Acetaminophen.htm __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 cindyleigh2525 wrote: > my daughther has bad acne she is on a antibotic believe me, i don't > like it but its bad she also appears to have alot of red spots looking > like scars. I have her on a muliti taking 100 mgs of b's vitamin c, > zinc. 30mg acidophilus, and essential 3.6.9 80mg. I think she a O > blood type but don't know for sure. Any suggestions to add. thanks It's her hjigh carb diet and low antioxidant diet that's at fault. If the diet is overall anti-inflamamtory it will come right. Get Dr PErricone's book " The Perricone Prescription " and follow the diet PRINCIPLES in there - as a startingplace. There's more in his next book " The Perricone Promise " . The body will make skin problems as its first line of defence - if you suppress these with antibiotics, steroids or whatever - then you will see a chronic disease instead later on. Not good!!! So the answer is to eat anti-inflamamtory food. For any inflammatory item you need LOTS of anti-inflammatory. If the net result is inflammatory - the skin wuill show it. SO: Less omega-6 and more fish-oil omega-3 (not plant omega-3). Less carbs, more coloured stuff and antioxidantrs. Avoid omega-6: Less veg seed oil and more EV olive oil. No sugar or sweeteners, lots of FRESH RAW nuts, and spices and herbs instead. And so on. The skin is just a reflection of what's going on internally. So fix the cells inside and the skin will reflect it back. Namaste, IRene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.) " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 said her daughter was taking " essential 3.6.9 80mg " and I guess I was thinking that the product referred to was like something I had seen the store, with Fish Oil in the title.... I was remembering your explanation of how we don't need the Omega 6 and 9, and not wanting to dilute the anti-inflammatory potency of whatever Omega 3 she gets. Does flax oil have both 6 and 9? My daughter was telling me that researchers at first were thinking our bodies could make Omega 3 from the others, but it can't. Gretchen Re: acne > > > mcpherson.bg@... wrote: >> Whatever her blood type, she should take more fish oil! 80 >> mg. >> is not enough, and it should be Omega 3 only. > > Gretchen, > How do you mean " Omega-3 only " ? > Is someone selling fish oil with the omega-3's extracted and > missing???? > > ALL fish oil contains the two omega-3 fatty acids, DHA and > EPA. Those > are the specially anti-inflamamtory components, and the fish > oil is good > fat in other ways. I use about 4000mg a day, and you're > right 80mg is a > drop in the ocean. > > Four of my five >> kids, all adults, take it because without it, antibiotics, >> Proactiv, etc--nothing controls their acne. > > Fish oil prevents it - the drugs only suppress it so it > turns into > something worse in time. > > Namaste, > Irene > -- > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. > P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. > www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary > Homeopath.) > " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one > doing it. " > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 The only time I get acne is if I eat wheat!!!!!!!!!! Wish I had known that when I was in high school. Back then they thought it was chocolate. Kate On 10/13/06, cindyleigh2525 <cindy_leigh@...> wrote: > > my daughther has bad acne she is on a antibotic believe me, i don't > like it but its bad she also appears to have alot of red spots looking > like scars. I have her on a muliti taking 100 mgs of b's vitamin c, > zinc. 30mg acidophilus, and essential 3.6.9 80mg. I think she a O > blood type but don't know for sure. Any suggestions to add. thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 I just moved up to 50 too and have had bad acnearound mouth, on neck and shoulders & lowerback.Or could it be from progesterone cream I recently started.Not sure.AliOn Aug 10, 2009, at 8:39 PM, dawn volz wrote:how can i tell if my teenage daughter with hashimoto's has acne caused from iodine detox or just teen acne?? does acne from bromide look different somehow?? she is on 50 mg of iodine and companion nutrients...thanks...From: Engtovo <engtovogmail>Subject: Re: panic attacks after large dose of iodine ???iodine Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 3:54 PM More links on bromide toxicity with some specifics to psychiatric issues. Please don't be afraid of bromism when taking iodine just take your time raising your iodine dose if needed, and take the companion nutrients. If you have enough bromide in your body to give you any detox symptoms on iodine or bromide symptoms before iodine therapy then you need the iodine very badly and without it are on a path that will only worsen without the iodine therapy. Some iodine detox symptoms that a percentage of people may get are Candida and other fungus die off (called the herxheimer reaction or herxing) and not bromide as well. Anxiety symptoms I was having for years on and off are gradually improving with iodine and I am not on any adrenal supplements or thyroid hormone just iodine (100 mg iodoral) and basic support supplements like A, Bs, C, D, E selenium, magnesium etc. Engtovo http://www.gulflink .osd.mil/ library/randrep/ pb_paper/ mr1018.2. chap10.html http://www.medterms .com/script/ main/art. asp?articlekey= 23343 http://www.rand. org/pubs/ monograph_ reports/MR1018. 2/MR1018. 2.chap10. pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Teenage son has done so well using an essential oil blend called "Heal Acne" from www.amoils.com. Never in a million years would you have convinced us that this kind of thing would help. Because I had tried everything on the boy, believe me, alternative things, nutritional, dermatologist.You apply the oil twice a day to the acne and three times a day to the bottom of the feet, which helps with prevention. I am not saying it will absolutely do the job for your teen. But am just passing along what (finally) helped my boy. Thank God. Knock on wood of course.I really do hope you can help her with that, been there with the helpless feeling. CeceFrom: Engtovo <engtovogmail (DOT) com>Subject: Re: panic attacks after large dose of iodine ???iodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Monday, August 10, 2009, 3:54 PM More links on bromide toxicity with some specifics to psychiatric issues. Please don't be afraid of bromism when taking iodine just take your time raising your iodine dose if needed, and take the companion nutrients. If you have enough bromide in your body to give you any detox symptoms on iodine or bromide symptoms before iodine therapy then you need the iodine very badly and without it are on a path that will only worsen without the iodine therapy. Some iodine detox symptoms that a percentage of people may get are Candida and other fungus die off (called the herxheimer reaction or herxing) and not bromide as well. Anxiety symptoms I was having for years on and off are gradually improving with iodine and I am not on any adrenal supplements or thyroid hormone just iodine (100 mg iodoral) and basic support supplements like A, Bs, C, D, E selenium, magnesium etc. Engtovo http://www.gulflink .osd.mil/ library/randrep/ pb_paper/ mr1018.2. chap10.html http://www.medterms .com/script/ main/art. asp?articlekey= 23343 http://www.rand. org/pubs/ monograph_ reports/MR1018. 2/MR1018. 2.chap10. pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 The only time I got any acne since starting the iodine was before I was taking enough supporting nutrients but the one difference I noticed from normal acne is that each pimple took much longer to heal after it surfaced and there was not the typical white head or sebum in the pimple. Engtovo Posted by: "dawn volz" dawnv5@... dawnv5@... Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:39 pm (PDT) how can i tell if my teenage daughter with hashimoto's has acne caused from iodine detox or just teen acne?? does acne from bromide look different somehow?? she is on 50 mg of iodine and companion nutrients...thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Bromide acne is red and painful and doesn't have the characteristic " white head " of normal acne. recommends applying equal amts of peroxide and epsom salts to dry it up. I've had really good luck taking NAC (n-acetyl-cysteine - an amino acid) 500-1000 mgs 1 to 2 times a day. It helps the liver detox so it can better handle the bromide so that it doesn't come out through the skin. I also used a green clay mask to help dry up the blemishes. Lorie > > how can i tell if my teenage daughter with hashimoto's has acne caused from iodine detox or just teen acne?? does acne from bromide look different somehow?? she is on 50 mg of iodine and companion nutrients...thanks... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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